Giuliani Defends Cancer Stats Used In Ad

Figures Cited In Radio Spot Have Been Challenged By American Cancer Society

(AP)  Rudy Giuliani is defending the survival rates he quotes when talking about his prostate cancer, amid criticism he understates the figures and makes unfair comparisons.

In a radio ad running this week in New Hampshire, Giuliani says: "My chance of surviving prostate cancer, and thank God I was cured of it, in the United States: 82 percent. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England: only 44 percent under socialized medicine."

The American Cancer Society says the survival rates are actually higher and it's misleading to compare the two countries.

Regardless, Giuliani said Friday, his point is clear.

"Even if you want to quibble about the statistics, you find me the person who leaves the United States and goes to England for prostate cancer treatment, and I'd like to meet that person," he told reporters in Washington.

The American Cancer Society says five-year survival rates were 95 percent in the U.S. and 60 percent in the United Kingdom, which includes Britain, in 1993-1995, the most recent time period with data to compare.

Rates are even higher today - 99 percent in the U.S. and an estimated 74 percent in the U.K.

Moreover, experts from the American Cancer Society say it's misleading to compare the countries at all.

American men are far more likely to undergo screening tests that detect the disease in its earliest stages. That means U.S. survival rates include many men whose lives probably weren't in danger - and whose cancers may never have been noticed in the United Kingdom.

Mortality rates in the two countries are closer - 15 of every 100,000 people die of prostate cancer in the U.K., compared with 12 of 100,000 in the U.S.

Giuliani defended his figures as "absolutely accurate" at the time of his prostate cancer treatment in 2000. "Those statistics have changed slightly today," he said Friday.

The former New York mayor got his numbers from the City Journal, a quarterly magazine published by the conservative Manhattan Institute think tank.

Giuliani made his remarks at a Capitol Hill news conference with Republican Sens. Kit Bond of Missouri and Norm Coleman of Minnesota, who endorsed Giuliani this week.

[nycprophet]

Sadly, even though Clinton voted for the war in Iraq, and a host of Laws aimed at removing your liberties, so many Democrats are blinded by her cult of personality that I predict they will overwhelmingly vote to put her crime family back into office. While I''ve made some progress in educating Liberals as to the phony staged consensus of the left-right paradigm, the fact remains that a majority of Democrats still see the White House as some kind of political Super Bowl, where the success of their "team" is the be all and end all - to the expense of America as a whole. The Punch and Judy show theatre that was the "troop surge" debate in the Senate characterizes Hillary''s role in hoodwinking Americans perfectly. The debate is framed as not whether the U.S. should get out of the Middle-East altogether, but the relative minutia of whether to feed thousands of more troops into the meat grinder or not. Clinton''s Campaign Manager recently compared Hillary to Margaret Thatcher, which translates as more war, more dead Americans, and a further desecration of the tattered shreds of what''s left of our Constitution. Clinton is the ultimate global elitist and represents the Democrats supposed base, the poor and downtrodden, about as much as Lindsay Lohan represents grace and dignity. I''m sure she informed the likes of David Rockefeller and Queen Beatrix as to her presidential aspirations during her last visit to attend the Bilderberg Group conference, which brings me to my next prediction.

[nycprophet]

I predict that in the near future Earth will be dominated by a powerful, one world government. Once free nations are slaves to the will of a tiny, global elite. The dawn of a new dark age is upon mankind. Countries are a thing of the past. Every form of independence is under attack, with the family, even the individual itself, nearing extinction. Close to 80% of the earth''s population has been eliminated. The remnants of a once free humanity are forced to live within highly controlled, compact, prison-like cities. Travel is highly restricted. Superhighways connect the mega-cities and are designed to keep the population from entering into unauthorized zones. No human activity is private. Artificially intelligent super computers chronicle and catagorize a person''s every action. A prison planet run by a ruthless gang of control freaks, whose power can never be challenged, will dominate. This is the vision of Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, and their fellow members of The Bilderberg Group. Their goal: a program of total dehumanization, where the science of tyranny is Law. A worldwide control grid, designed to ensure the overlords'' monopoly of power forever. Our species will be condemed to this nightmare future unless the masses are awakened to their New World Order master plan, and mobilized to defeat it. Erected secretly, the Georgia Guide Stones are a testament to their totalitarian plan for a world religion; global Laws; a global court; and a global army to enforce those Laws.

[nycprophet]

The John Warner Defense Authorization Act, which was supported by Clinton, Obama and McCain, also facilitates militarized police round-ups and detention of protesters, so called "potential terrorists" and other "undesirables" for detention in facilities already contracted for and under construction by Halliburton. That''s right. Under the cover of a trumped-up "emergency," detention camps are being constructed right under our noses, camps designed for anyone who resists the foreign and domestic agenda of the President. The Journal of Counterterrorism & Homeland Security International recently reported that "global engineering and technical services powerhouse, Kellog, Brown & Root, a subsidiary of Halliburton, announced in January 2006 that its Government and Infrastructure division was awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity contract to support U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities in the event of an emergency." "With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five year term," the report notes, "the contract is to be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers," "for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations - in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs." New Programs?

[starleo146]

With only a little luck, we won''''t ever be living in Rudy''''s nevermind-the-facts status-bush-quo world.

Posted by actornaught at 01:31 PM : Nov 04, 2007


Where is Tim Russet when you need him????Oh He is trying to show Hillary is not telling the truth. Giuliani the biggest double talker and liar in the line up for Pres.You think now this press is bias????

[nycprophet]

Right alongside the widely-held notion that man is somehow to blame for global warming and that we should therefore pay a global Carbon Tax administered by the U.N., when I think about the myth that is our the "Global War on Terrorism," the following two quotes come to mind:

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda minister

"That propaganda is good which leads to success, and that is bad which fails to achieve the desired result. It is not propaganda''s task to be intelligent, its task is to lead to success."
- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister

[forthepeopl1]

United States May Declare State of Emergency


Associated Press Writer
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) %u2013 The whitehouse government of embattled President bush said Thursday it may impose a state of emergency due to ``external and internal threats'''''''''''''''' and deteriorating law and order.
including from Democratic presidential hopeful Barak Obama, over the possibility of U.S. military action against al-Qaida in Pakistan ``has started alarm bells ringing and has upset the Pakistani public.''''''''''''''''
But it appeared the motivation for a declaration of an emergency would be the domestic political woes of
President bush
During a state of emergency, the government can restrict the freedom to move, rally, engage in political activities or form groups and impose other limits such as restricting congress right to make laws or even dissolving congress
``These are only unconfirmed reports although the possibility of imposition of emergency cannot be ruled out and has recently been talked about and discussed, keeping in mind some external and internal threats and the law and order situation,bush told The Associated Press.

In Washington, the State Department said . ``
Bush is under growing American pressure to crack down on militants at the Afghan border because of fears that al-Qaida is regrouping there.
The Bush administration has also not ruled out unilateral military action inside america but like Obama, has stressed the need to work with the americans.

[drinuk]

The man is a total and utter liar. He was given the UK figures as being 74% and chose to down them to 44%.

He is a deceitful creep

[nhprophet]

Following the Reichstag Fire, a historically-proven act of False Flag Terrorism his own party staged to encite fear in the German population, Hitler promoted the Enabling Act, which is quite similar, in many, many ways, to our own Patriot Act and to the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007, which gives the President the power to suspend Congress, The Constitution, and to impose Martial Law following any event he or she deems an "emergency." Here''s what Hitler told the German people:

"The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures...The number of cases in which an internal necessity exists for having recourse to such a Law is in itself a limited one."
- Adolf Hitler

Does that ring any bells? It should, folks. It''s nearly the same words George Bush used to support of the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007, one of the many Orwellian Laws which Senators Clinton, Obama and McCain all supported.

"Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal."
-- Martin Luther King Jr.

"The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home."
- James Madison

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself, and those who would exploit our fear for power and their own personal, selfish, cynical gain."
- Franklin D. Roosevelt

[nhprophet]

Within every generation our country has had its share of weird and backward laws, the sort of legal aberrations like the Patriot Act and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, which Senators Clinton and Obama fully supported, that make it more expedient for a President to wield power and for a lazy Congress to seem assertive. John Adams had his Alien and Sedition Acts, which invited suspicion of immigrants and criminalized any critical opinion of the government. Massacring Indians was a favorite sport of Andrew Jackson''s, but in order to indulge it he had to act as if Supreme Court decisions had the legal standing of a fugitive slave. His contempt was infectious. "The farce of dealing with Indian tribes," as Jackson put it, meant that none of the 374 treaties signed with Native Americans by 1868 were worth more than the feathers they were inked with. By then the nation got busy dealing with the farce of Reconstruction, when lawmaking turned its deceptive wiles on blacks, a political pastime that continues to this day with such legal sophistries as affirmative action and the gerrymandering of "majority-minority" voting districts -- two effective ways of patronizing black participation in society while isolating it in politics. All legal, all seemingly constitutional, for now.

[nhprophet]

Following the Reichstag Fire, a historically-proven act of False Flag Terrorism, which his own party staged to encite fear in the German population, Hitler promoted the Enabling Act, which is quite similar, in many, many ways, to our own Patriot Act and to the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007, which gives the President the power to suspend Congress, The Constitution, and to impose Martial Law following any event he or she deems an "emergency." Here''s what Hitler told the German people:

"The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures...The number of cases in which an internal necessity exists for having recourse to such a Law is in itself a limited one."
- Adolf Hitler

Does that ring any bells? It should, folks. It''s nearly the same words George Bush used to support of the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007. One of the many Orwellian Laws which Senator Clinton and Senator Obama have both supported.

"Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal."
-- Martin Luther King Jr.

[nhprophet]

Things people should know about Rudolph Giuliani: A Spanish company, Cintra-Zachry, which is owned by the King of Spain, is already building the North American SuperCorridor highway through the middle of our country thanks to NAFTA, and they''re going to get the tolls. Rodolph Giuliani''s law firm, Bracewell & Giuliani represents that Spanish company. Another Giuliani business, Giuliani Capitol Advisors was once a partner of Cintra-Zachry, and actually owned the rights to collect tolls from the Indiana and Chicago sections of the SuperCorridor before Giuliani sold that interest recently to an Australian company called Macquarie. Bracewell & Giuliani represents some of the biggest multi-national oil, utility infrastructure and financial corporations both in the U.S. and abroad. With that have come the connections that Giuliani has been able to tap into for campaign donations, essential for his Presidential bid, not only in Texas but nationwide, as he has become the consumate NWO globalist. Particularly unnerving, given Giuliani''s personal experience on 9/11, is his defense of open borders at any cost while condoning the NAFTA Superhighway Corridor and by extension the North American Union, without the consent of the U.S. Congress or the will of the American people. We should have seen it coming when Mayor Giuliani enacted Special Order 40 in 1994, ordering NYC law enforcement officers to stop checking the immigration status of suspects caught violating the Law.

[nhprophet]

Since its first meeting, the Bilderberg Group, a secretive gathering of global power brokers, which includes Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, et.al. has inspired layer upon layer of ridicule, which the group has done little to dispute. Over the years, the deeds laid at the group''s devious door have included the creation of the European Union, the invasion of Iraq and their current efforts to create a North American Union, which will erase our borders and our sovereignty. All to service its most cherished goal: the creation of a world government. After it was reported that a well-received speech by Senator John Edwards at their meeting in Stresa, Italy, was one reason for his selection as John Kerry''s vice-presidential running mate in 2000, people began to ask, "Is the Bilderberg Group now molding worldwide public policy?" Over 100 of the world''s most powerful politicians and business leaders attend the annual, invitation-only gatherings to discuss global issues and to formulate policy objectives. The hotels involved are closed-off to other guests, and to reporters. Guards are placed around the perimeter. Attendees promise to keep quiet about what they hear and say. "They do not have to sign anything, but they understand that they do not talk," said Maja Banck-Polderman, the organization''s executive secretary. Tony Gosling, a British reporter who has followed the group says, "I think that a forum where so many rich and powerful people meet should be open to public scrutiny."

[nhprophet]

Clinton voted for the Patriot Act and she voted for the war in Iraq, but so many Democrats are blinded by the cult of personality that they will overwhelmingly vote to put this crime family back in office. While we have made some progress in educating liberals as to the phony staged consensus of the left-right paradigm, the fact remains that a majority still see the White House as some kind of political super bowl, where the success of their ''team'' is the be all and end all - to the expense of America as a whole. The Punch and Judy show theatre of the troop surge debate characterizes Hillary''s role in hoodwinking Americans perfectly. The debate is framed as not whether the U.S. should get out of Iraq altogether, but the relative minutia of whether to feed thousands of more troops into the meat grinder or not. Clinton''s campaign manager compared Hillary to former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. This translates as more war, more dead Americans, and a further desecration of the tattered shreds of what''s left of The. Constitution. Clinton is the ultimate elitist and represents the Democrats supposed base, the poor and downtrodden, about as much as Lindsay Lohan represents grace and dignity. She was sure to inform the likes of David Rockefeller and Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands as to her presidential aspirations during her visit to last year''s Bilderberg Group conference in 2006. The Bilderberg Group has a proven history of acting in a kingmaker capacity. Research it.

[nhprophet]

Sen. Hillary Clinton drew criticism recently for a Martin Luther King Jr. Day speech in which she told a mostly black audience at a Harlem church that Republican leaders have run the House "like a plantation" and the Bush administration will go down as "one of the worst" in U.S. history. Responding to the speech, House Speaker Dennis Hastert called her remarks "a little bit over the top." "I''ve never run a plantation before. I''m not even sure of what kind of association she''s trying to make," said the speaker, a Republican from Illinois. "If she''s trying to be racist, I think that''s unfortunate, but I''m not going to comment any further on that." One of Clinton''s Republican congressional colleagues from New York, Rep. Peter King, said the senator "should be ashamed." "It''s definitely using the race card. It definitely has racist connotations. She knows it," King said. "She knew the audience. She knew what she was trying to say, and it was wrong. And she should be ashamed." However, the host of the event where Clinton made her remarks Monday, activist Al Sharpton, agreed with the criticism.

[nhprophet]

In public, Hillary Clinton is a charmer, smiling and saying the decent thing, even about her political enemies. But, according to a new book, she has a vicious temper and routinely mocks aides, calling them "children". In one private outburst, she is said to have screamed that her Republican rivals wer "evil, evil men". This remark was a surprise to many Americans as, during this election campaign, she went out of her way to call the war-wounded McCain an honorable man who had served his country with courage and decency. The dark side of the Hillary was revealed yesterday by *** Morris, his old friend and confidant to the Clintons, in Behind the Oval Office, for which he was paid a $2.5 million advance by Random House. The White House, which has been worrying for months about what the book would disclose, has taken pains to keep Morris sweet. Morris, branded by several White House aides as a traitor, betrays the Clintons left and right in the 359-page tome. On Hillary, he said, "Time and again he would derisively refer to the Whitehouse advisors as the "children who got Bill elected." She would plead for "more adults in the White House," Morris writes. The disgraced adviser presents Mrs Clinton as out of touch with the world, never reading newspapers and relying on staff to summarize for her what was happening. "Dozens of times I would mention a front-page story of great importance . . . and she had not seen them. She almost never knew what was on the nightly news."

[undermyboot]

These neocon power-mongers follow the old nazi tactics of disinformation and propaganda to deceive and confuse Americans.

%u201CThat propaganda is good which leads to success, and that is bad which fails to achieve the desired result. It is not propaganda%u2019s task to be intelligent, its task is to lead to success.%u201D- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
-- Joseph Goebbels, Adolf Hitler''''s propaganda minister

These neocons hate what America is, and want to remake it into a new fascist ONE-PARTY STATE. They must figure that it worked for Hitler, so why not give it a shot? Rudy is just another lying Bushie fascist clone.

[actornaught]

With only a little luck, we won''t ever be living in Rudy''s nevermind-the-facts status-bush-quo world.

[candide777]

NHProphet: Shouldn''t you be out on a ledge somewhere? No one is going to listen to a psychopath like you. Please stop harrassing us. Liberals, conservatives, atheists, Christians, Muslims and Jews all agree, we want you to shut the __ up. Thank you for showing us that we do have some common ground we all hate you, and thanks to your spam, we hate your candidate too.

[prinzowhales]

Mafiosi Giuliani fails to note some of the other factors which make the British rates worse than the Americans--besides the system of medical care. First is exposure to sunshine--which makes you feel better and which allows your skin to manufacture Vitamin D, a big time enemy of cancer. The next factor is diet--Americans have an awful diet...and, if anything, the diet in the UK, particularly Scotland, is an abomination. These two factors mitigate against a successful outcome in the UK patient as opposed to the American patient.

And, just why is it that the Golf Delta tea sipping limeys can''t get Twinnings to seal their tea bags properly!! I am sick and tired of turning up the cup and getting a mouth full of leaves in the morning.

[nhprophet]

Most intelligent people can see right through the mainstream media''s bias against Ron Paul. "What about the polls?", you ask. As someone who''s been in the business, I know you can make a poll result look anyway you want. All you have to do is call or not call on people in a certain demographic group to achieve your desired result. You can see the man has support. He''s won ALL of the viewer call-in polls in ALL of the GOP debates he''s been in. People everywhere are in the street, and on the Net, supporting him like no other. And his campaign chest is growing daily, and not from huge corporate donations like the other GOP and Democratic party candidates get from defense contractors and bankers, but from grass root supporters who give what little they can afford--$5, $10, whatever. This is a 21st Century political revolution, my friends, and the Oligarchs or on the defensive. Ignore what the media network giants like CBS tell you. They sold-out to the status quo decades ago. This man has some major grass roots support across this country. Millions of Americans believe he is our only hope to restore peace, prosperity and freedom in this country. Presidential candidates with the personal integrity and proven track record of adherance to The Constitution Congressman, Paul has always demonstrated only come around only once in a lifetime, if we''re lucky. The stakes are too high. The cause of freedom is too important. Get off your couch, put the remote down and support Ron Paul!