Giuliani, Bloomberg State Their Cases

Men Who Led New York City Have Different Ways Of Saying How They'd Lead Country

(AP)  Rudy Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg, back-to-back mayors of New York, use nearly identical sales pitches as they try market themselves to a nation often wary of city folks.

Being New York City mayor "is about as good a preparation for being president as exists," Giuliani said one morning last spring in Houston. Bloomberg coincidentally was across town delivering a similar message that same day. Giuliani, he said, "couldn't have been more right. I could not have said it better myself."

Two months before the first presidential primaries, Giuliani is nursing the front-runner's position among the Republican candidates. Bloomberg is considering whether to get into the race as an independent, while publicly denying any plans to do so.

With parallel political resumes and a shared spiel that City Hall is a White House stepping stone, the two mayors could one day be in a tug-of-war for support on the campaign trail.

Giuliani, who is actively campaigning, invokes the mayor-to-president theme more often than Bloomberg, who is not. Last week in New Hampshire, an early primary state, Giuliani hit the point several times in one day.

"New York City mayor is sometimes described as the second toughest job in the country," he said. A moment later, he added that the three leading Democratic candidates "never had the safety and responsibility of other people on their shoulders."

Bloomberg says he plans to remain in City Hall until the end of his term in 2009. But he keeps finding reasons to travel to presidential swing states and places that are rich with electoral votes, promoting himself and the idea that mayors roll up their sleeves while the federal government idles.

"We can't wait for Washington to come riding to the rescue - we've got to take the bull by the horns and do it ourselves," he said at a June appearance in California.

A month later, it was a similar message in Missouri - Washington is "dragging its feet" while cities are "taking the lead." Aides say he will raise that point again on a trip this week to Seattle and next month in New Orleans.

The two mayors may make the same case, but their style is markedly different.

Bloomberg is known for being dry, speaking in a near-monotone in front of crowds. Giuliani tends to give his audiences more red-meat rhetoric, delivered in his rhythmic cadence that goes from very fast to ... slow … and ... deliberate ... for ... emphasis.

While they do share a certain brash New York bravado, Giuliani has softened that approach outside his hometown. He appears to be taking care to speak lightly and brightly, which is coming across as humble and disarming to at least some voters.

Winifred Stearns, a former New Yorker who now lives in Hanover, N.H., is an abortion-rights Republican who has supported John Kerry and H. Ross Perot - the exact type of voter that a Bloomberg campaign would love to steal away.

But after Stearns heard Giuliani speak at a high school gymnasium near her home last week, she grimaced when asked if she could support Bloomberg.

"He strikes me as very autocratic - I don't think he's conciliatory enough, I don't think he could work with Congress," she said. "Rudy could."

This reading of the two mayors is the opposite of the image they have within the city.

As for their policies as mayors, they had plenty in common - but the cities they inherited were vastly different.

Giuliani came to power in the early 1990s in a city split by racial tensions and infested with crime. He made the city safer, but his critics say he never improved race relations.

Then came Sept. 11.

Giuliani rushed to the scene, but was gone from office within months, succeeded by Bloomberg, a billionaire businessman whose main task was to place the city back on an even keel.

Bloomberg, a Democrat-turned-Republican-turned-independent, has crafted a reputation as being willing to meet with anyone - elected officials, union leaders, City Hall critics. He regularly reaches out to the Rev. Al Sharpton, with whom Giuliani refused to meet, and has managed to improve the city's race relations.

Earlier this year, a brief tussle broke out when Bloomberg said he wouldn't leave his City Hall successor with the same financial difficulties that he inherited.

Aides said later that he was referring to the post-9/11 fiscal crisis, but a deputy mayor from the Giuliani administration had a different take, telling the Daily News it was "revisionist history" and a slam against the former mayor.

The two have never been the best of friends, and Bloomberg pollster Doug Schoen recently revealed in a book that Bloomberg's mayoral campaign in 2001 had to press for support from Giuliani, who was being lavished with national praise and attention after the terrorist attacks.

"No one on the Bloomberg campaign had known when - or even if - a Giuliani endorsement was forthcoming," Schoen wrote.

Eventually Giuliani agreed to the endorsement, which is widely believed to have given Bloomberg an edge in winning election days later. It has been said that Bloomberg now owes Giuliani, and that he would not dare get into the presidential race and spoil Giuliani's shot.

Bloomberg associates say this will make little difference in his decision, which will depend more upon whether he believes he can win and has something to offer that the two major party nominees lack (besides $1 billion to spend on a campaign).

New York's City Hall has not exactly been a successful launching pad for higher office. One mayor, John T. Hoffman, did ascend to the governor's office in 1869.

Even the argument that Giuliani and Bloomberg are using has already been tested - former Mayor John Lindsay tried it during his failed bid for the 1972 Democratic presidential nomination.

Back then, California Gov. Ronald Reagan reportedly ridiculed Lindsay's line about New York City mayor being the nation's second hardest job.

"It probably is, the way he does it," Reagan was quoted as saying.

[oldprophet]

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[prairiefox1]

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HERE ARE THE RULES I WILL FOLLOW THIS TIME!
1 NEVER VOTE FOR A PARTY!
2 VOTE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL !
3 IGNORE CAMPAIGN PROMISES !
4 IGNORE PERSONALITY !
5 IGNORE LOOKS!
6 VOTE ON THEIR PAST PERFORMANCE !

THEIR PAST PERFORMANCE WILL TELL YOU WHAT THEY WILL DO IF ELECTED!
WE NEED TO DO THIS OR WE WILL WATCH THE DEATH OF A NATION!

[rowdytexan2]

"New York City mayor is sometimes described as the second toughest job in the country," he said. A moment later, he added that the three leading Democratic candidates "never had the safety and responsibility of other people on their shoulders."

I would think a United States senator has the responsibility of the whole country in their hands. However, they''re certainly not perfect. But Mr. Guilianni, you let a total criminal be the police chief of NYC, like you didn''t KNOW?

You don''t need to be putting down anybody elses experience or judgment, Sir. And you can certainly match graft for graft anybody elses corruptness.

[usaprophet]

Ron Paul represents a different Republican Party from the one that Iraq, deficits and corruption have soured the country on. It''s ironic that other GOP candidates are scared to death of his message, BECAUSE his is more conservative than theirs. Being anti-war IS conservative. Another key difference between his message and the others is that he is a strong defender in The Constitution, which protects our civil liberties. The other Republican cadidates, who are mostly NWO Oligarchs, want to erase your liberties. They''ve tried hard to exlude him from the spotlight, along with the mainstream press. In late June, despite a life of antitax agitation and pious churchgoing, he was excluded from a Republican forum sponsored by Iowa antitax and Christian groups. Ron Paul does not represent your Father''s style of Republicanism. He represents your Founding Father''s style. He stands for a certain idea of the Constitution; the idea that much of the power asserted by modern presidents has been usurped from Congress, and that much of the power asserted by Congress has been usurped from the states. Though Dr. Paul acknowledges flaws in both the Constitution (it included slavery) and the Bill of Rights (it doesn%u2019t go far enough), he still thinks a comprehensive array of positions can be drawn therefrom: against gun control; for the sovereignty of states; and against foreign-policy adventures. His message draws on the noblest traditions of American decency and patriotism.

[starleo146]

Did you see on the news another republican caught for soliciting he resigned .Giuliani cross dresses what is with the republicans why bother to even get married

[usaprophet]

Things people should know about Rudolph Giuliani: A Spanish company, Cintra-Zachry, is already building the North American SuperCorridor highway through the middle of our country, and they''re gonna get the tolls. Rodolph Giuliani''s law firm, Bracewell & Giuliani represents that Spanish company. Another Giuliani business, Giuliani Capitol Advisors was once a partner of Cintra-Zachry, and actually owned the rights to collect tolls from the Indiana and Chicago sections of the SuperCorridor before Giuliani sold that interest recently to an Australian company called Macquarie. Bracewell & Giuliani represents some of the biggest multi-national oil, utility infrastructure and financial corporations both in the U.S. and abroad. With that have come the connections that Giuliani has been able to tap into for campaign donations, essential for his Presidential bid, not only in Texas but nationwide, as he has become the consummate NWO globalist. Particularly unnerving, given Giuliani''s personal experience on 9/11, is his defense of open borders at any cost while condoning the NAFTA Superhighway Corridor and by extension the North American Union, without the consent of the U.S. Congress or the will of the American people. We should have seen it coming when Mayor Giuliani enacted Special Order 40 in 1994, ordering NYC law enforcement officers to stop checking the immigration status of suspects caught violating the Law. Vote for a REAL AMERICAN. Vote for Ron Paul.