PORTLAND, Maine, Oct. 29, 2007

Maine Advocate Defends School Pill Policy

Head Of Portland School Nurses Defends Birth Control For Middle-Schoolers Who Have Sex

  • Portland Schools Head Nurse Amanda Rowe speaks during a School Committee meeting on Oct. 17, 2007 on the proposal to allow students at King Middle School to obtain birth control prescriptions from the school's health center. Photo

    Portland Schools Head Nurse Amanda Rowe speaks during a School Committee meeting on Oct. 17, 2007 on the proposal to allow students at King Middle School to obtain birth control prescriptions from the school's health center.  (AP Photo/Joel Page)

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(CBS/AP)  News reports of contraceptives provided to girls as young as 11 at King Middle School led to an uproar. Republicans launched an effort to recall members of the school board. And District Attorney Stephanie Anderson warned health professionals that they were illegally failing to report underage sex.

At the center of the debate is the coordinator of Portland school nurses, who happens to be the wife of Maine Attorney General Steven Rowe.

Amanda Rowe, an outspoken supporter for children's health and sex education, said she isn't paying attention to what the national news media or talk show hosts have to say about the Portland School Committee's decision.

The decision to make available birth control prescriptions to children whose parents allow them to visit the school clinic was the right one, she said.

"I am committed to this, and I will see it through," Rowe told the Portland Press Herald.

The Christian Civic League of Maine has questioned the silence of Attorney General Steven Rowe on the contraceptive issue. Fox TV commentator Bill O'Reilly said Maine's attorney general faces "a conflict of interest."

Rowe, 53, said she was prepared for controversy when an advisory board that reviews sex education programming in the Portland schools decided that birth control prescriptions should be made available at the middle school health clinic.

But she did not expect a national debate.

Nonetheless, she said the national controversy is irrelevant. "We are trying to do things for our own little community," she said.

Rowe attended the University of Maryland's Walter Reed Institute of Nursing on an Army scholarship and spent the years after graduation working as a pediatric nurse in the Army. She came to embrace the military's medicine. "It was a universal system," she said.

After returning to Maine, Rowe taught pediatric nursing at Westbrook College and earned a master's in education from the University of Southern Maine. She and her husband have four children. Their youngest is a college senior.

Rowe is a breast cancer survivor, and she said that helped to shape her beliefs. "We are on this Earth for a very short time and have only one chance to act on our convictions," said Rowe, whose health is fine today.

People who know her say she doesn't back down from her convictions.

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We are on this Earth for a very short time and have only one chance to act on our convictions.

Amanda Rowe
Longtime friend Rosemarie DeAngelis, a South Portland city councilor, said Rowe earned her lifelong allegiance in 2002 when Rowe stood up for her in a dispute with the Maine Education Association, the state's largest teachers union.

Rowe and others crashed a closed-door suspension meeting between DeAngelis, a treasurer for the South Portland Teacher's Association, and state union officials in a dispute over DeAngelis' accounting of her chapter's dues money.

Rowe and two others were arrested for criminal trespass. The charges were later thrown out.

"I don't know many people who would go in and get themselves arrested on your behalf, and that is what Amanda did for me," DeAngelis said.

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by Krazcarl October 29, 2007 9:04 AM PDT
This sounds like the idiots that justified the whitch hunts so you know it''s wrong period. High school I''ll be quiet but jr. high that''s way to much your breeding disfunctial choldren.
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by yahshua3 October 29, 2007 9:12 AM PDT
Sadly Maine has made a real mistake in their decision to allow "young" school age children to receive the patch/birth control items without even notifying the parents. I suspect that many other schools throughout the country will now follow suit. So lets take some more RIGHTS of the parents away while we are at it.It seems to me as though the school teachers, the school board, and the State have more control over what is "good and proper" for our children than even the parents have. It makes me ILL and those who voted for this should be ASHAMED of themselves. I DARE the State, and especially the schools to even attempt to tell me what is the BEST thing for my child !! In most cases the school board can''t even control their own teachers much less tell the parents what is RIGHT.
Every day we see on the news where some teacher has sexually molested one of our kids....and you think you can tell us as parents what is RIGHT? I suggest you take a real long look at your own system first, like monitoring your teachers!!!
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by toolmangler-2009 October 29, 2007 9:53 AM PDT
This sounds like the idiots that justified the whitch hunts so you know it''''s wrong period. High school I''''ll be quiet but jr. high that''''s way to much your breeding disfunctial choldren.

Posted by crzmeat at 09:04 AM : Oct 29, 2007



I agree, Why not include all girls the moment they are born, pedofiles and child molesters don''t care about age.

ssssshhhheeeesssshhh!!!!!!!!
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by toolmangler-2009 October 29, 2007 9:54 AM PDT
Sorry about the sarcasm.
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by feddupp October 29, 2007 10:44 AM PDT
How on earth do you "defend" providing a life-changing, possibly health-damaging, product to minor children without their parent(s) knowledge or consent??
If these birth-control pills caused a blood clot or stroke (which they have been known to do), the minor child''s PARENT(s) would have to SIGN for them to go into the hospital to treat it!
This is outsider intervention gone AMUCK!!
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by klingon69 October 29, 2007 10:54 AM PDT
Rowe attended the University of Maryland''s Walter Reed Institute of Nursing on an Army scholarship and spent the years after graduation working as a pediatric nurse in the Army.


Do we have alot of need for pediatrics in the military? How young are they accepting in armed services?
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by theroux1 October 29, 2007 10:55 AM PDT
At last, a progressive thinking state. It''s no wonder that I love being a Yankee!
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by michellem99-2009 October 29, 2007 11:39 AM PDT
I AM A MAINER..THIS ISSUE PISSES ME..I LIVE SEATTLE NOW BUT YER DON''T GIVE GIRL CHILDREN BIRTH CONTROL.DEAR GOD ALMIGHTY..I DID ALLED MAINE SCHOOLS..I KNOW HOW WE THINK AS PEOPLE THERE..THEY DON''T LIKE OUTSIDERS TELLING THEM/US HOW TO RUN THINGS THERE..I WAS BORN IN MAINE..I WILL TELL YER THIS IS WRONG..I KNOW WHERE THE SCHOOL IS AS I USE TO LIVE AT THE BLIND CENTRE THERE. LADY..BACK OFF ON THIS..I AM SET AGAINST THIS...TEACHERS..WHAT YE THINK WHEN YER PUT A CHILD ON BIRTH CONTROL WILL DO..HELL..YER KNOW BETTER..THEY CAN''T KEEP THEIR PAWS OFF THE GIRLS..YER GIVING PREDATOR SGCOOL STAFF THE TOOLS TO RAPE HER..SURE GIRLS GET THEIR PERIODS BUT THAT IS NO SIGN SHE MUST BE FORCED TO HAVE SEXX..THAT IS WRONG..YE KNOW IT..SHE CAN''T RENT..SHE CAN''T SIGN..BIRTH CONTROL IS FOR ADULTS..SEXX IS FOR ADULTS..THEY GO TO SHCOOL TO LEARN...Barbara Ann
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by joepatsfan1 October 29, 2007 11:54 AM PDT
To Klingon69

Wow what a brilliant observartion. "Do we have alot of need for pediatrics in the military? How young are they accepting in armed services?" Do you think that soldiers don''t have families? It''s great to see you think out your responses before you post.
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by squidly8 October 29, 2007 11:58 AM PDT
Imagine the shock of the pediatrician telling you that your daughter is being routinely medicated by the school system without your knowledge of what the prescription is. What if you had to take your child to the ER and their treatment was based on the assumption that the child was NOT on birth control. "Sir/Maam, is your daughter on any medications? No."

The state is dealing with it in that it is against the law for *** with any child under 12 (I think that was the right age) regardless of the age of the other partner. The school system is legally obligated to report child abuse which is what this crime falls under. Don''t report it....go to jail. No arguments from me!
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by squidly8 October 29, 2007 12:00 PM PDT
The *** in my post should be $ex
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by joepatsfan1 October 29, 2007 12:01 PM PDT
To Klingon69
"Do we have alot of need for pediatrics in the military? How young are they accepting in armed services?"

It''s nice to see you take some time and think your responses out before you post. Do you think that soldiers don''t have kids? Or is it that the military isn''t resonsible for thier medical care? Stop and think before you click publish next time and you won''t look so foolish.
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by Krazcarl October 29, 2007 12:04 PM PDT
toolmangler...it''s such a hoot when I first got on board I thought you and I would be butting heads but as time has rolled on I agree with you a lot of time you never know.
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by dowjones20k October 29, 2007 12:24 PM PDT
this gal is NUTS !! This same issue doomed Shannon O/Brien here in Ma when she ran against Romney ..

Progressive''s may see a wide road .. but when it xcomes to teir kids ... most want to know exactly what is going on .. and for a MIDDLE school to promote such hypocracy is ludicris !!!

This gal will go into hiding before its over

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by squidly8 October 29, 2007 12:26 PM PDT
A school official in a nearby town (Manchester, CT) wants to send home parent report cards - the school grading YOU as a parent to your child. I have seen self evaluation forms for parents but never one where I was ''judged'' by the school. And by what stretch of the imagination do school officials believe they are empowered to make such an evaluation.

This ''report card'' and the birth control issue are just continuations of the erosion of the parent in the school. Make no mistake about it, the schools and the NEA believe that you as a parent are incompetant in rearing your child. That the education in all life aspects are best handled by them - ''qualified teachers''. As a parent, have the courage to stand up for yourself and your children against what is becoming a monster
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by toolmangler-2009 October 29, 2007 12:27 PM PDT
Posted by crzmeat at 12:04 PM : Oct 29, 2007


I try not to butt heads, instead I try to invoke brain useage instead of ''hi impact'' sports. LOL
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by theroux1 October 29, 2007 12:46 PM PDT
The fact is that most parents in this country are doing a lousy job of raising their kids. Just take a look around; kids who watch so much TV that they are overweight and lazy, parents who buy their kids guns, parents who care more about their kids being popular than good people, the whole ghetto culture. We see if with kids as young as 5. It''s a sad statement of what we value in our culture. Violence, blood and gore is glamorized but ooooh, ***, that''s bad. Crazy!

"This ''''report card'''' and the birth control issue are just continuations of the erosion of the parent in the school. Make no mistake about it, the schools and the NEA believe that you as a parent are incompetant in rearing your child. That the education in all life aspects are best handled by them - ''''qualified teachers''''. As a parent, have the courage to stand up for yourself and your children against what is becoming a monster"
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by michellem99-2009 October 29, 2007 1:01 PM PDT
Mrs.Rowe,yer got it that debate..like it or not..I thank ye as a vet..I am 53. I was a pupil in Maine school system..But yer platform on birth control is wrong..Yer out of line..It is not yer duty to put girls on birth control.Middle School is not the bloody military..I am glad ye was never a staff member at my school years ago.I hope they fire yer asre..Ye got no business in this area. They are girls..Yer know full well that birth control is FOR adults..Did ye think ye could push this..Putting children on birth control is a form of abuse..Why..Yer enableing the predators in the schools access to their prey knowing the girl is on birth control..Yer don''t think it happens in schools and the home..Think again..Parents fight this..It is yer duty as parents to teach sexx ed..No school has the right to this..I am appalled our taxes are used for this trash..I see this woman as trash and the reason is she not suppose to do this..They are childern not adults..Go work in a care home for the aged..Paws off lady..I am an Aunt..
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by erasmus6 October 29, 2007 1:05 PM PDT
To Klingon69
"Do we have alot of need for pediatrics in the military? How young are they accepting in armed services?"

It''''s nice to see you take some time and think your responses out before you post. Do you think that soldiers don''''t have kids? Or is it that the military isn''''t resonsible for thier medical care? Stop and think before you click publish next time and you won''''t look so foolish.

Posted by joepatsfan1 at 12:01 PM : Oct 29, 2007



You will have to excuse klingon69, that''s what happens when you INHALE everyday.
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by yoopermom October 29, 2007 1:51 PM PDT
It''''s nice to see you take some time and think your responses out before you post. Do you think that soldiers don''''t have kids? Or is it that the military isn''''t resonsible for thier medical care? Stop and think before you click publish next time and you won''''t look so foolish.
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Posted by joepatsfan1--


Its nice to see that you feel the need to be a jerk and berate someone''s comments more than once.
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by mediamomma October 29, 2007 2:04 PM PDT
The day they give my daughter birth control at school is the day I pull her out and home school her or just pack up and move to a new zone. No way does the school system - middle or high school - have the right to teach my child about $ex. It''s my job, not theirs. It''s not the school''s responsibility. It''s sad that there are too many parents out there who care more about their own lives and situations who can''t raise their children to be polite and teach them about things like $ex, sticking up for themselves, keeping good grades and trying out for things they want to achieve and reaching for the stars and telling them that it''s okay to wait. I''m so glad I don''t live in Maine. I''d have to move.
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by toldyouso21 October 29, 2007 2:17 PM PDT
"People who know her say she doesn''t back down from her convictions. "


There are a lot of people with convictions (like GWB and many in the moral majority) But having convictions and being right are 2 very different things. The key question here, is : "What is going on in this community, that girls are exposed to and practicing sexxxxx at such a young age? Maybe CPS needs to do some indepth investigation into the homelife of these people--something is very wrong with the idea that 10 to 13 year olds are seeking to have and are having experiences with sexxxxual intercourse.
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by toldyouso21 October 29, 2007 2:24 PM PDT
Do we have alot of need for pediatrics in the military? How young are they accepting in armed services?
Posted by Klingon69 at 10:54 AM : Oct 29, 2007

Uhmmm cute remark--but just so you know--the military hospitals not only provide to soldiers, but also to the soldier''s immediate family, that includes wife and children--they are provided dental, medical and other benefits for life for the vet and his spouse and for the kids--until the age of 18--this holds true whether the soldier stays in the military or gets out. I was born in a US military hospital in Europe. The nurses who tended to me and my mom were Pediatric and OB/GYN nurses respectively. My dad got out of the military in 1973, but his kids were all covered until they each reach 18, and he and my mom were covered until they died. Not that we used the coverage (since it was questionable and we had other coverage through civilian insurances) but it is there for every serviceman and their family
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by whistleb4daw October 29, 2007 2:27 PM PDT
I have been watching this with growing alarm.My daughter is grown,but I have an infant granddaughter.I want to know why the goverment wants to chemically alter our daughters.First,they tout the gardisil,and it starts killing them,now they want to interfere with their reproductive rights?Sure,give her the pill at 11,when she is 21 she may be sterile.Asfar as this woman''s credintials,let''s just say I pass.I agree that convictions and morals can be two different things but I guess it doesnt matter if there is an agenda,huh?
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by Ozark_Sunshine October 29, 2007 2:34 PM PDT
Sounds like she''s advocating practicing medicine without a license.
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by toldyouso21 October 29, 2007 2:39 PM PDT
Everyone is entitled to their convictions and their own sets of morals for THEIR own life. What we are seeing more and more of--is that people are not only interested in applying their moral beliefs to their own actions but want to impose their beliefs on everyone else through laws. Providing access to Perscription medicine for a minor without parental consent is just like dealing drugs--it encourages behavior that the user may not be ready for and that the parents will pay the highest cost for as the main support for that child.

These types of actions are no different than the right to lifers approach to life--it involves using laws to dictate or affect or mitigate the personal behavior of others, If this person does not want people providing chastity belts and other sexual deterrents--she needs to back off.

Incidentally, if this works as well as it does in higher ages--girls will still get pregnant, as they constantly forget to take the pills or play "roulette" with them.
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by patsy2007-2009 October 29, 2007 2:47 PM PDT
I know after my comment I''m going to have every poster commenting about me.
But have some of you thought of how many children out there do things behind the parents and we as parents never find out. Yes, I''m a parent and would hate the fact that my daughter would be on Birth control at age 11, but have we thought about them not telling us what is going on or what they did while we where at the market, in the shower, at the bank, or even while they are in there room and we are sleep. C''mon people I''m not judging nobody''s parenting skills but we really don''t know it all specially on how or when to talk to them about s e x.
I remember when I was about 16 or 17yrs old I was working in a Jewelry store where this young girl walks right behind her mother I did not notice her belly but saw she looked depressed, her mother was upset since she had just found out was pregnant, she was 5 months and the girl was only 12 yrs old. The mother and the father both could not figure how it happen and when, so are they now irresponsible parents.
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by mediamomma October 29, 2007 2:56 PM PDT
If the parents knew what their kids were doing and when and with who then it may not have happened. But this lady in Maine permitting the middle schoolers to take birth control unbeknownst to parents is wrong. The schools should send letters to the parents of these children allowing them the option of opting their kids out of it. It''s not up to the schools to make medical decisions of our kids. If my daughter decides she wants to have $ex, I know she will be comfortable enough with me to tell me she wants to and if she''s not, she will go to another adult friend because that is the network that we have worked out and I will find out and know what she''s doing. So it''s my choice if I want her on the pill. No one else''s.
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by billpl-2009 October 29, 2007 3:03 PM PDT
If an eleven year old girl desires use birth control,

then the parents

a. haven''t done their job
b. are incapable of doing their job
c. have a child too difficult to control

...did I miss something?

If a girl is old enough to get pregnant, then she should be able to acquire means to prevent it.

By the way folks....
it''s not illegal for a girl to have *** as a minor
It''s only illegal to have *** with her
....get your facts straight.
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by oscarez October 29, 2007 3:15 PM PDT
"erosion of the parent in the school ... What???? Most parents are expecting the schools to bring up their kids.

"something is very wrong with the idea that 10 to 13 year olds are seeking to have and are having experiences with sexxxxual intercourse."

This is a fact, young people are having intercourse younger and younger. Parents that don''t understand this fact are not living in these times and are in denial. *** is every where and kids are not stupid. The natural urge to reproduce is strong in humans and for 2000 years religion has made something natural a sin. Yep, the Republicans are leading the charge to burn the witches.
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by michellem99-2009 October 29, 2007 3:25 PM PDT
Wake up Ladies..I could see this coming as I was a foster child..I was abused in them homes..I had to push a foster father a way from me and other males as I did not want them violating my person..I love Maine..But I take a stand on this issue..Patsy dear the nanny govt been telling ye how yer will/wont raise yer kids..It is not right.No sah..They break families up..Now that same govt will tell yer that yer girls must be on birth control..Why..So their teahers can have sexx with them..that does happen..No way..I HAVE NO CHILDREN BUT I AM AN AUNT OF SCHOOL AGE GIRLS THERE. I DON''T BELIEVE IN BIRTH CONTROL FOR PUPILS AND I PAY AS DOES EVERY ONE FOR THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND IF THAT ISSUE IS NOT DONE AWAY WITH WHAT WERE YER THINKING..STAND UP TO THE PLATE LADIES FOR YER GIRLS SAKE AND HEALTH..The school system gets a failing grade..Yer kids are entrusted to ye by the Allmighty..He choose ye as their parents not friends..BE A PARENT..
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by erasmus6 October 29, 2007 3:26 PM PDT
"The mother and the father both could not figure how it happen and when, so are they now irresponsible parents." patsy2007

Yes.:)

You are right that parents can''t know every second of the day, what their children are doing. But the problem is that there are a good many parents that don''t know what their kids are doing at ANY TIME of the day.

This school obviously has a problem with the kids having s-e-x- or they wouldn''t be doing this. Maybe your town isn''t having a problem with kids having s-e-x, but this one is!

The fact is that kids are having s-e-x younger and younger these days and parents need to pull their heads out of their a-s-ses and start paying attention. Now I am NOT for giving them birth control pills because then they will need to start having physical exams,etc. but I am for having condoms made available and education.

For you parents that think that your kid isn''t going to have s-e-x or that they will come to you if they decide to, you need to give your heads a shake.

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by mediamomma October 29, 2007 3:26 PM PDT
Hey Oscar - are you a parent? If not, then you do not have the right to preach about parents who wish to keep their children from having $ex at a young age. My child has high aspirations and I want her to be able to see them through before she has kids. There is a natural order to things and getting done with school before having a baby comes first. And I do know where my child is and what my child is doing and she is most definitely not have $ex.
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by jankebenz October 29, 2007 3:33 PM PDT
Small wonder that young girls are engaging in sexual activity with mentors such as britney and the like writhing and moaning their explicit seks trash to young viewers.Get rid of the smut and garbage they see and air visually healthy shows.
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by ajmystic October 29, 2007 3:42 PM PDT
I would like to say that I agree with patsy2007. A parent cannot sit on a child 24/7. The parent has to work or sleep sometime. I had an understanding with my son from an early age that he could talk to me about anything, including s e x. I also told him that if and when he wanted to start acting upon his "urges", to let me know and I would provide him with appropriate protection. Just because a girl is on the pill doesn''t mean she can''t pass on some sort of disease caused by intercourse. My son''s health care practioner was delighted that I was so open and up front with him. It''s time that parents pulled their heads out of the sand and took a realistic approach. Kids will have s e x and there is nothing a parent can do, other than applying a chastity belt or locking them up in a tower with no human contact. At least one person in the school system understands this and is trying to help keep these children from making more children.
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by grammawhamma October 29, 2007 3:47 PM PDT
No way does the school system - middle or high school - have the right to teach my child about $ex. It''''s my job, not theirs. It''''s not the school''''s responsibility.
Posted by mediamomma at 02:04 PM : Oct 29, 2007

I agree with all you say except the above statement. There is nothing wrong with s.e.x education at school as alot of kids won''t get it at home or are uncomfortable asking their parents. Kids are curious about s.e.x at a young age and discuss it with their peers. (My four year old grand daughter asked me last week how babies get in their mom''s tummies and how they come out of their mom''s tummies.) Education is a good thing...but giving out birth control without parental permission is WRONG!
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by taddles-2009 October 29, 2007 3:59 PM PDT
"Fox TV commentator Bill O''Reilly said Maine''s attorney general faces "a conflict of interest." "

Bill O''Reilly is a whackjob loony who needs to be euthanized.
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by erasmus6 October 29, 2007 3:59 PM PDT
Parents always think that if they are open with their kids and tell them they can come to them if they decide to have s-e-x, that they will. WRONG. Sure there may be some that do, but there is a lot more that won''t.
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by mediamomma October 29, 2007 4:11 PM PDT
Hey GrammaWhamma, unfortunately my daughter already knows what *** is. She learned at a way too young age due to being victim of a crime. When they tried to teach her 7th grade class about the reproductive system in science last year, she wanted nothing to do with it. The classes gave her nightmares and brought back panic attacks and we had to arrange a different science project for her to do so she didn''t have to deal with the reproductive system cirriculum in science. She knows too well about the anatomy of a boy and what the body parts below the waste are used for. She decided she couldn''t handle the cirriculum. It was a group effort between me and all the teachers at her school to help her through the term. Unfortunately, not all parents are active in their kids'' education. So when it comes to $ex ed, it''s my job. Not the school''s. But then again, she already knows what it is and the consequences and of communicable disease such as AIDS because she had to be tested for that at a young age as well due to the news I received regarding her monster. She''s extremely lucky that she didn''t get the fatal illness form him. The shcool is working on a different curriculum for her this year when they deal with that subject so she won''t suffer the same nightmares and panic attacks as last year.
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by donbl1 October 29, 2007 4:24 PM PDT
I just love these people who know what is right for everyone else.

Will be interesting to see if the school board is reelected and if her husband is reelected. Those are the benchmark grades for her extreme intelligence.

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by global_chick October 29, 2007 4:34 PM PDT
It''s not the school''s job to teach about ***. It is a parent''s job. If they don''t like the way I am raising my children with regard to *** ed, tough. Unless a child is being neglected or physically harmed in some fashion, they have no right to dictate a child''s upbringing, including when a child should or should not learn about ***. The 99 percent of kids who will engage in promiscuous activity thanks to the idiocy of these board members far outweighs any perceived "benefits" for the one percent who supposedly can''t talk to their parents.
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by grammawhamma October 29, 2007 4:41 PM PDT
mediamomma: I am sorry to hear what happened to your daughter. I would think it would not be a problem in her case to have her excused from s.e.x education classes.

But what about all the other children...should they be denied s.e.x education because of your daughter''s horrid experience? No! Ignorance is not bliss...it is dangerous.
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by mediamomma October 29, 2007 4:42 PM PDT
Amen, global_chick.
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by mediamomma October 29, 2007 4:42 PM PDT
Amen, global_chick.
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by yoopermom October 29, 2007 4:47 PM PDT
The pill will prevent pregnancy 98% of the time if used correctly. It will not prevent STDs. Unfortunately, pregnancy is not the worst that could happen to these kids.
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by patsy2007-2009 October 29, 2007 5:00 PM PDT
Out of 134 students 5 said yes to having ****al intercorse. Now we know not all said yes because they were afraid. And not all kids go to an adult/friend so if the child does not speak we have no way of knowing, I understand birth control can damage them in the future, and even the most caring and focused parent will know as much as they would like to. I do not considered my self a bad parent and I know were my child is @ but there will come a time (when she is older) that I cannot be after her at all time, unless I disrespect her privacy and have a camera in her room, her back pack etc...This is not fair for the parents "i know" but my point is if your child and the other both decided to have s e x and she comes out pregnant and she never told you about her s e x acts with that other boy...WHAT THEN??? Is it the schools fault, the parents, the child, or who''s?

I see this as a good idea since most children do not trust there parents enough to come and say, and with all you posting about this is wrong and how you say they want to show you raise your children.. it is parents like you who force children not to seek for your advise, or even go to a Dr. since they are afraid they are going to tell the parents. That is my point!!
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by michellem99-2009 October 29, 2007 5:08 PM PDT
YER WRONG ERASMUS6...MY FOSTER MOTHERS KNEW MY EVERY MOVE,MY CLOTHES,THERE WAS NO TV WATCHING..THERE WAS 3 CHANNELS..SHE BANNED THE FOLLOWING AND I HAD ABIDE BY THEM.
NO FRIENDS
NO TALKING TO BOYS
NO TV/RADIO/NEWSPAPER/
NO GARMENTS THAT SHOWED TOO MUCH SKIN. SKIRK BELOW MY KNEES..THE BLOUSE TO COVER PERPERLY..NO SKIN TIGHT..I WAS A TEEN IN HIGH..70-74..
SHE KNEW WHAT I HAD IN MY BOOK BAG..SHE KNEW WHAT WAS AT SCHOOL..BUT THAT ASRE KELP MY MAGNIFIERS THAT I NEEDED AND HID THEM..THEN WHINED WHY I COULD NOT DO MY SCHOOL WORK..
IF THEY WERE ALIVE TODAY ..IT WOULD BE WORSE..THEY SAY..OH NO BARBARA YER CAN''T USE COMPUTER...
I am awere they want to dress as their peers..no yer the ones that buy her clothes..therefore they abide by yer rules not their peers..Now I love music with a good beat..Sade for one..Yes ye can..she may not like it..Get in her face..ye the parent..do yer duty..My mother was 16 with me..It changed her life..she had to drop out of school,marry my dad,that marriage did not last..Yer ever seen a grown woman cry in front of her fisrt born as I am adult..Her words hurt me..That one time messed her life up..She told me the truth..I knew it.She too bloody young to have me..Not only that a phy handicapped child..She could not handle it. I did every thing in my power to not have children.. Foster mother drove that piont home daily..She hated me and others in foster care..Yes there was abuse in them..She said Barbara yer have no business having kids yer can''t take care of..
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by billpl-2009 October 29, 2007 5:15 PM PDT
"The 99 percent of kids who will engage in promiscuous activity thanks to the idiocy of these board members far outweighs any perceived "benefits" for the one percent who supposedly can''''t talk to their parents"
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What you''re saying is that for every one girl that needs this service that 99 other girls will race off and have se-x because they can get pills too????????

....there must be some really serious bad parenting or really stupid little girls in that town.
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by global_chick October 29, 2007 5:17 PM PDT
I think people need to be realistic here. How many of these kids genuinely can''t talk to their parents, either because of potential abuse or some other reason, and how many just don''t want to or are afraid of a parent''s anger? I think that number is probably no more than 1 percent. To suggest that a school has the right to usurp the rights of parents is utterly ridiculous, and is equivalent to creating a police-state in which parents have ZERO control over the upbringing of their own children. It is not up to school officials to make these decisions; it is up to ME.
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by global_chick October 29, 2007 5:19 PM PDT
Patsy, that''s not the school''s concern. What goes on at my home is my business, unless I am physically or emotionally harming my child. It is not up to you to judge how a parent is or is not raising their child. That is NONE of your business, nor is it of the school officials.
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