U.S. General Wounded In Iraq Bombing

Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Dorko Is Top U.S. Officer Hurt Since War Began

(CBS/AP)  A U.S. brigadier general was wounded in a roadside bombing Monday in northern Baghdad, the U.S. military reported. He was the highest-ranking American officer to be hurt since the conflict began in March 2003.

Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Dorko was in stable condition and was evacuated to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany. His injuries were not life-threatening.

A second soldier wounded in the attack was treated and released.

Dorko is commanding general of the Gulf Region Division.

In other violence Monday, a suicide bomber on a bicycle blew himself up in a crowd of police recruits in Baqouba, killing at least 29 people, police and hospital officials said. At least 19 people were wounded in the attack.

The recruits were waiting to be allowed inside the camp for the day's training when the suicide bomber blew himself up in their midst, according to a police officer who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

The attack bore the hallmarks of al Qaeda in Iraq, whose militants have repeatedly targeted police and army recruits to discourage Iraqis from joining the country's nascent security forces.

Mohammed al-Kirrawi, a doctor at the Baqouba general hospital, said most of the victims were struck by iron balls packed with the explosives to achieve maximum casualties. He said the hospital lacked the necessary equipment to save many of the wounded.

"Among the wounded, there are seven in critical conditions and there is little hope that they will survive," he said.

Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, is the capital of Diyala province, where hundreds of Sunni Arab tribesmen and insurgents have in recent months joined the U.S. and Iraqi forces in the fight against al Qaeda.

A 22-year-old Sunni man from Baqouba's central Tahrir area said he was among a group of some 60 recruits when the blast struck.

Akram Salman said it must have been an inside job because the suicide bomber apparently was able to penetrate heavy security surrounding the police camp without being searched.

He said police failed to stop the bomber when he changed course suddenly from the main road toward the recruits.

"The police are infiltrated. Many people join the police but they have affiliations with al Qaeda. These infiltrators made it easy for the bomber to attack us," he said. "There are two main checkpoints on the main road leading to the camp, it would be impossible for a man on a bicycle to pass without being properly searched."

"Al Qaeda has threatened us before and prevented us from joining the police," he said. "They slaughtered many policemen, burned their houses, killed their families and blew up their headquarters. Now, when the people have defeated al Qaeda and cooperated with the government, al Qaeda staged this operation to show their presence and to give a message that they are still in control."

In other developments:

A group of kidnapped Sunni and Shiite sheiks were freed Monday, a government spokesman said. Police and relatives have identified the tribal leaders abducted in Baghdad as seven Shiites and three Sunnis aligned against al Qaeda who were on their way home to Diyala province after attending a meeting with the Shiite-dominated government's adviser for tribal affairs to discuss coordinating efforts against the terror group.

Turkish Cobra attack helicopters fired rockets into Kurdish rebel positions in mountains near the Iraq border Monday, one of several clashes as government forces kept up the pressure on the guerrillas. Two Turkish soldiers were killed in the fighting, according to reports. In an address to the nation, President Abdullah Gul pledged to remain resolute in the fight against the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, rebels - a fight that has been going on since 1984 and has seen nearly 40,000 people killed.

A parked car bomb exploded near a market in Siniyah, just west of Beiji in northern Iraq, killing at least four people and wounding 13, according to the media office of the Salahuddin provincial police department. Police said the bomb apparently was targeting a police patrol but missed its target, killing four members of a family who were heading to the market to do their morning shopping.

In southern Iraq, meanwhile, the U.S. military turned over security responsibilities to Iraqi authorities in the mainly Shiite province of Karbala, the eighth of the nation's 18 provinces to revert to Iraqi control.

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The police are infiltrated. Many people join the police but they have affiliations with al Qaeda. These infiltrators made it easy for the bomber to attack us.

Akram Salman, Iraqi police recruit

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said the southern province of Basra's security file would be transferred to the Iraqis in mid-December. The British-led forces overseeing the area already have begun drawing down and pulled back from the center of the provincial capital to the airport on the outskirts.

"This is the proof of the strong will and resolve of the good citizens of this nation," al-Maliki said at the handover ceremony in Karbala, 50 miles south of Baghdad. "The reconstruction of Iraq does not hinge on security alone, but security is the key to everything."

A new commander, Maj. Gen. Mark Hertling of the 1st Armored Division, assumed control of U.S. forces in northern Iraq on Sunday, acknowledging that violence remains high in the area but expressing confidence that the military has al Qaeda on the run. "The levels are still high in some of the northern provinces," he said. "But while they're still high ... they have been decreasing significantly."


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by brianbwb-2009 October 29, 2007 7:59 AM PDT

"Akram Salman said it must have been an inside job because the suicide bomber apparently was able to penetrate heavy security surrounding the police camp without being searched. "

OK, who was providing security? If Al Qaeda is indeed guilty, answer this question, and then you know who is sponsoring Al Qaeda, and why.

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by hungry1968 October 29, 2007 8:12 AM PDT

I''m sure that all of the lunatic Bush supporters will tell us that the surge is working, and the only reason this happened is because Clinton got a BJ while he was in office. That''s the answer to everything that goes wrong with the Iraqi disaster - might as well add this to the list too.

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by dogsoul October 29, 2007 8:53 AM PDT

As opposed to all the liberals who would fold & give the terrorists whatever they wanted in order to appease them... you traitor

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by rowdytexan2 October 29, 2007 9:02 AM PDT

"Read my lips....the surge is working."

Oh wait, wrong war mongerer.

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by hungry1968 October 29, 2007 9:13 AM PDT

As opposed to all the liberals who would fold & give the terrorists whatever they wanted in order to appease them... you traitor

Posted by dogsoul at 08:53 AM : Oct 29, 2007



Nice try. Your proof that the liberals would roll over and give them whatever they want is ...? The last time someone gave the terrorists whatever they wanted, was in June when our military was ordered to arm the Sunni insurgents to "fight al Qaeda". It wasn''t long before those weapons were turned on our troops. Or Haliburton losing two containers full of M-16''s and ammo. Or Blackwater selling weapons to the Kurds. Or Bush announcing his weapons sale to Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Or Bush giving $3 billion dollars of weapons and ammo to Israel. Shall I go on?

The fact remains that most liberals think that we should still be in Afghanistan hunting down bin Laden and bringing him to justice for 9/11 - not creating wars on false pretenses against countries that did nothing to us, and then arming our enemies like the current administration is doing.

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by superdem October 29, 2007 9:48 AM PDT

These are people who have hated each other for centuries, with long scores to settle, but the killings never settle anything, only require retribution. They aren''t becoming like us - we are becoming like them. The madness the Republicans are seized with in this pursuit makes them hateful and impervious to reason, they have to lash out at those of us who actually want to pursue this nation''s interests. So, like the Iraqis, we have irreconcilable differences and are a nation at war with itself. The right accuses us of doing all we can to portray the Iraq War in a terrible light - but we are only telling the truth. In the House oversight hearings the Republicans tossed softballs to Condoleeza Rice, and criticized their Democratic colleagues for "punching holes in the boat" but the only real facts came from the Democrats'' questions. The Republicans just aren''t interested in facts, they are obsessed with saving face. It''s really, really sad.

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by mcvet October 29, 2007 10:33 AM PDT

As opposed to all the liberals who would fold & give the terrorists whatever they wanted in order to appease them... you traitor


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Posted by dogsoul at 08:53 AM : Oct 29, 2007
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You got to admit you fascist, as simple minded as you are, do remember short hate messages. Now lets review. The People of Iraq had NOTHING to do with the attack on us! The People of Iraq had NO weapons! The People of Iraq had NO connection to Bin Laden. The REAL enemy, you freaks do remember him don''t you? Well he has completely rebuilt his orgainzation in ANOTHER Country and guess what he used to get young Arabs to join that organization? Yep our invasion of Iraq... now tell us all how you freaks can figure that "Liberal''s" are responsible for that mess? Sieg Heil Bush!! I guess what they say is true... you do have to be stupid to wear a swastika!!

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by notblue October 29, 2007 10:55 AM PDT

It''s always hilarious to read posts from Asssholess like McVet. Talk about simple minded blind indifferance. Sadam was a genocidal maniac who used WMD''s on his own people. He was convicted of genocide and hung. His lack of transparency regarding WMD had everyone convinced he still had them even the Democrats. Now he is using hindsite to bloviate his hate America crapp. Anyone who believes that there are "terrorists"in just specific middle eastern countries and not all is a naive moron. Bin Laden has not rebuilt his organization, he is losinmg on every front and lives on the run and in hiding. BNecause we are actually fighting terrorism an many fronts those poor radicals that have been braibnwashed since childhood will join the fight, it is to be expected. These moron on the left think if we retreat and stop fighting the terrorist recruitment will stop and the world will be peaceful. Good luck with that plan as it does not work as multiple attacks against America right up until 911. What was the reason for the 911 attack since that happened before the Iraq war? The ingratess don''t have an answer for that but I''m sure as always they will blame America.

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by micma-2009 October 29, 2007 11:04 AM PDT

Iraq is a total disaster that will drain us of money, blood, power and prestige for the next decade. Thanks Bu$h. Thanks Republicons.

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by notblue October 29, 2007 11:04 AM PDT

jihad6379, the fight is there NOW, that''s waht matters NOW. Sadam''s "control" involved murder, torture, death squads, total lack of civl rights and genocide. It figures you people take that stance, gutless blind indifference, your either a pascisfist or a terrorist, doesn''t matter that makes you part of the problem not the solution.

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by notblue October 29, 2007 11:14 AM PDT

Jihad, the fight is worldwide, please list the countries the radiclas attacked over the last thirty years. They encompass the globe. We chose to fight an enemy in Iraq, not the militants, and now that they are there according to you we should just leave. Please expalin the sense of a plan like that. Your beloved BIn LAden knows the fight is there he says so, why don''t you go join your brothers in jihad, you will be gladly recieved, you already have the ideology down.

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by micma-2009 October 29, 2007 11:25 AM PDT

notblue


Where is Bin Laden?

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by notblue October 29, 2007 11:37 AM PDT

Nacny Naive, what a perfect name!

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by toldyouso21 October 29, 2007 11:39 AM PDT

Did anyone read the story on RR about the Iraqi women who just graduated from the Police Academy and are serving now in Ramadi? They got 5 DAYS of training....

If this is the level of training we are having the Iraqis give people on the front lines of horror in Iraq--small wonder we are having such a hard time. Stand up? So we can stand down? Forget that--after 5 days, the police would have barely learned how to crawl--let alone stand up....

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by toldyouso21 October 29, 2007 11:47 AM PDT

Anyone who believes that there are "terrorists"in just specific middle eastern countries and not all is a naive moron. ... happened before the Iraq war? The ingratess don''''t have an answer for that but I''''m sure as always they will blame America.
Posted by notblue at 10:55 AM : Oct 29, 2007

1. Most people believe and it has been substantiated, that the 9/11 attack was an attempt to retaliate against the double std of support of Israel and hard fistedness to other ME countries--the terrorists proposed to strike at the true puppet master (the US) instead of our proxy (Israel) that has been the answer for years now.

2. YOu do have a point about terrorists being everywhere--even here. So why don''t we just bring everyone home, secure our borders, and turn our own country into FUBAR first, ferreting out all the terrorists here first? Maybe after a few years of bombs everywhere, death and destruction, we will know what exactly we caused in Iraq and having felt it first hand ourselves--would wish it on no one. Clean our own house first--before we go looking for other homes to destroy in the name of fighting extremists--be willing to die in our own lands first, before we expect others to be willing to die for our ideas about THEIR countries.

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by toldyouso21 October 29, 2007 11:52 AM PDT

Al Qaeda is Arabic for 700 Club.

Regards,
Posted by Nancy_Naive at 11:28 AM : Oct 29, 2007

My mom used to love to watch the 700 Club. When we were young, my mom cracked up laughing--because my little brother had another name for the show--he thought it was called "The Liars Club" When she heard that--she laughed so hard, that she cried. The point is not lost--that all extremism either Christian or any other religion is dangerous--it lends the title of righteousness to acts that God himself calls nothing but evil---torture anyone? What happened to what Christ said about "turning the other cheek?" "Loving your enemies" and "do unto others what you would have them do until you"

Personally, I doubt if notblue and others would want the horror of Iraq to be in the US or would want to be waterboarded to get info--a lot of people read the bible--but really miss the import. LOL great post NN

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by mcvet October 29, 2007 11:52 AM PDT

Nacny Naive, what a perfect name!

Posted by notblue at 11:37 AM : Oct 29, 2007
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Typical Nazi Response!! ROFLMAO You bootlickers are so funny it''s sad! Sieg Heil Mein Fuhrer!!

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by radiob-2009 October 29, 2007 11:53 AM PDT

From another story but related.


"There is one young boy who is the sole survivor from that house,%u201D Pelley tells Karzai. %u201CA seven-year-old boy named Mujib. We asked him what he thought of the Americans and as you might expect, he said, ''I hate them.%u2019%u201D


This is how you create OBL''s.

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by mcvet October 29, 2007 11:57 AM PDT

Jihad, the fight is worldwide, please list the countries the radiclas attacked over the last thirty years. They encompass the globe. We chose to fight an enemy in Iraq, not the militants, and now that they are there according to you we should just leave. Please expalin the sense of a plan like that. Your beloved BIn LAden knows the fight is there he says so, why don''''t you go join your brothers in jihad, you will be gladly recieved, you already have the ideology down.


Posted by notblue at 11:14 AM : Oct 29, 2007
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The fight is NOT world wide Sparky! The fight is with the guy who Planned and Ordered the attack against us. If you Bootlickers want to buy into that nazi garbage that''s okay but lets not try to make it something it isn''t. Iraq had NO WEAPONS, that was a LIE. Iraq had NO CONNECTION to the attack against us, that was Bin Laden. Now IF we are ever going to stop attacks against this nation we''d better start by bringing those who actually DID do the deed to justice. All Iraq has done is given them a way to bring in new Young Arabs to attack us. ANY FOOL should be able to understand that you are flat LOSING when you find out that your approach has not only not killed the enemy but has indeed been used to REBUILD the organization. No matter how many swastikas you wear that''s called LOSING!! Sieg Heil Bush!!

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by notblue October 29, 2007 11:58 AM PDT

McVet, I wouldn''t let an ingrate like you near any normal Americans for fear you would spread your rabies.

Isn''t time for meeting with the other nazi skinheads, I''m sure you are a high ranking member as you love to spew the nazi slogans, only an idiot would spew that anti-Amrican pro nazi crapp. Keep it up it shows your true colors, black white and red.

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by notblue October 29, 2007 12:04 PM PDT

Mcnazi, give me a list of middle eastern countries that terrosist are not present, then head to Africa, then southeast asia, how about Europe. What a moron you are. Is political agenda so important to you that you would be willing endanger your country out of hatred for it''s leaders? Or are you just a jihadist in leftwing clothing fighting for your cause over the internet, either fits.

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by micma-2009 October 29, 2007 12:09 PM PDT

notblue


Where is Bin Laden?

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by notblue October 29, 2007 12:22 PM PDT

Bin Laden is in a wild lawless mountainous region nearly the size of Texas between Pakistan and Afghanistan living in some cave surrounded by gayrds who will execute him if capture is imminent, just living the good life. I''m sure that description did nothing more than drum up your sympathy for the man and his cause.

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by stevex47 October 29, 2007 12:30 PM PDT

Notblue,
Are you doing the same drugs Rush does? Wow, you are addicted. You learned their spin real good. It''s just that after 8 years of watching the right wing nazi spin tactics, we''re on to you. You''re one of the few left still suppporting the lost repugnant regime. Good luck.

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by squirley4 October 29, 2007 12:30 PM PDT

All you loony democrats out there, can keep on spitting out your trash all you want!Follow those crazy democratic loons in Washington,believe them all you want,vote for them.As to why we went to war is not the question now!That was then & this is now!!We need to win there!Our guys in Iraq ARE winning there!And do not want to leave until the Iraq''s are ready for us to go,and their job is done!If you want to know what is true,I suggest that you morons watch"Fox News"!!On Hannity''s America Sunday night.There was a soldier on that proved that Murtha is nothing but a dirty,filthy lying democrat(not to mention the rest).

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by squirley4 October 29, 2007 12:34 PM PDT

Continued....You trash Bush and anyone that is not a democrat,but can you name me one of them(democrats) in Washington that has matched the amount that Rush Limbaugh got on ebay on the "Dingy harrys smear letter"?No because it(the money) went to soldiers families,and they "hate"our soldiers,just like they hate Bush.There were 41 democrats that tried to bring Rush down,but that didn''t happen,you probably know nothing on that subject though!Rush challenged all or any of them to match the bid,but not one did!It brought 2mil.and Rush matched that,so the children of fallen soldiers did good "without the dems money HUH?

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by hungry1968 October 29, 2007 12:35 PM PDT

Awesome picture here. The tombstones are hilarious!!

http://bp0.blogger.com/_XNXLcHFsW1U/Rx9pd8S0j0I/AAAAAAAABwU/3ananH9yxvY/s1600-h/Haunted+Bush.jpg

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by squirley4 October 29, 2007 12:35 PM PDT

continued.... There are enough good people on "Air" out there,not to mention"Fox News",(They are fair&balanced and will give both sides of an issue)that gets the "REAL TRUTH OUT TO THE PEOPLE",and hopefully it will even penetrate the minds of all you trash mouthing democrats(if you will just listen).My advice to you, would be to not listen to the LIARS that you(and myself) put in office,clean house there and listen to the ones I mention here.You people have brains&can think for yourself.But if you listen and wait for your leaders to give you the real truth you will be waiting a long time(I waited).Get some leaders that you can trust.I finally did!

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by squirley4 October 29, 2007 12:36 PM PDT

continued.... I am 63 yrs old was a democrat all my life BUT NO MORE!There are no GOOD democrats left.So people tune in your RADIO''S TALK SHOWS AND LISTEN TO WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON IN WASHINGTON,America,AND THE IRAQ WAR!We "the people out here" need all the help we can get,for the world that our kids and grandkids are going to grow up in.And NO I do not like the dems because they have steered me wrong all these yrs.I finally know it now!When I speak of the democrats,I am speaking of the ones in office!You will never know what I mean until you know both sides of an issue.

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by tejasdemo October 29, 2007 12:38 PM PDT

If this had happened here today the news would be freaking out. All kinds of analysis from a bunch of "experts" about why it happened and what we should do about it.

But since it happened in Iraq it will get this little blurb on the front page and will eventually get replaced by the latest Britney c rap or some story about where Bush had a poop today.

Very sad.

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by notblue October 29, 2007 12:41 PM PDT

Stevex47, I do not always agree with the Republicans or the Democrats, I vote for those who I hope will be good for America. I will never call the the Deomcratically elected government of the greatest country on earth a "regime". It shows your true colors, there are a many "regimes" in this world, ingrates like yourself need to visit one, maybe that will allow you to realize the ignorance you and the rest of the ilk that think and talk like you.

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by rerrorislam3 October 29, 2007 12:43 PM PDT

LOOK WHO IS TARGETING CIVILIANS!!!

Qaeda warns of attacks ''worse than 9/11''
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070530102648.wuwa6k96&show_article=1

Hizbullah Deputy Sec-Gen Sheikh Naim Qassem: We Have Jurisprudent Permission to Carry Out ''Martyrdom'' Operations, Fire Missiles on Israeli Civilians From Ayatollah Khomeini
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154907

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108
American Al Qaeda Member Threatens Attack
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/29/terror/main2865282.shtml

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by radiob-2009 October 29, 2007 12:44 PM PDT

It''s not a regime it''s a group of "lap poodles" on both sides of the aisle same with all of the presidential candiates.

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by hungry1968 October 29, 2007 12:48 PM PDT

Posted by squirley4 at 12:30 PM : Oct 29, 2007

"As to why we went to war is not the question now!That was then & this is now!!We need to win there!"

Translation: Okay you anti-war people are right. The reason that we went in was based on lies, but who cares?



"I suggest that you morons watch"Fox News"!!On Hannity''''s America Sunday night."

That''s hilarious!!! You call us morons, and in the same breath you tell us to listen to wannabe White House spokesman Hannity!! For what? Fair and impartial reporting?!?!

Absurd!!!
LOL

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by squirley4 October 29, 2007 12:52 PM PDT

To you sunsetbillyb... How can I calm down,when there are people like you out there that can not see past the nose on their face.Of course it was bad news,especially for their families and us.But everytime you read the bad news go to the places you need to and hear good news also!

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by squirley4 October 29, 2007 12:58 PM PDT

And you also hungry1968,You must be really hungry for something....Maybe Hannity,A little Fox maybe.No I do not need any meds.I am in my right mind now....Just praying for the world out there!

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by micma-2009 October 29, 2007 1:02 PM PDT

notblue


Where is Bin Laden? Why is he allowed to roam free, build his organization, and even put out press releases?

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by hungry1968 October 29, 2007 1:06 PM PDT

And you also hungry1968,You must be really hungry for something....Maybe Hannity,A little Fox maybe.No I do not need any meds.I am in my right mind now....Just praying for the world out there!

Posted by squirley4 at 12:58 PM : Oct 29, 2007


I am hungry for something. The return of our country to the greatest nation on earth. I want it returned to what it was before Bush and Cheney hijacked it and ran it into the iceberg. The last thing that any responsible person with a brain needs is to listen to the brain dead ramblings of Hannity, Coulter, O''Reilly, Beck, or Limbaugh. You''ll get more intelligent and biased reporting out of a high school newspaper than you will out of this coffee clutch.

Is it any surprise that what they report is different from EVERY OTHER NEWS SOURCE IN THE WORLD??? I mean I could see if they reported it one way, and NBC reported it another. But when EVERY news station and news paper tells you something and they all agree with each other, and then Fox comes along with their "roses are red" version, who are we supposed to believe?

Take the blinders off man!! You make us in the over 40 crowd look like senile imbeciles!!!

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by notblue October 29, 2007 1:08 PM PDT

Micma, I answered your question a few posts back but I will again.

Bin Laden is in a lawless monutainous region nearly the size of Texas between the countries of Afghanistan and Pakistan. He is in a cave surrounded by body gaurds who willexecute him if capture is imminent. His press releases come via Al Jazeera, another enemy of freedom who supports and enables terrorists not unlike the leftwing in this country, always blaming America while justifying the actions of the Jihadists, calling Bin Laden and his minion "freedom fighters" etc. etc.

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by squirley4 October 29, 2007 1:23 PM PDT

for you hungry1968....Why do you think that Fox and all the others that you mentioned got started in the first place?I told you we needed all the help that we could get because we are not getting it in washington!As for Fox they are #1,check the facts!As for this administration,what about the one before this one?

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by micma-2009 October 29, 2007 1:24 PM PDT

notblue

Where is Bin Laden and why is he allowed to roam free, build his organization, and even put out press releases?

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by jon_mccain October 29, 2007 1:25 PM PDT

Posted by rerrorislam3 at 12:43 PM

I see CBS is getting better at identifying and shutting down the C&P rantings of lars008, good for them.

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by squirley4 October 29, 2007 1:25 PM PDT

..............senile imbeciles!!! .............AND HERE''S YOUR SIGN................

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by getit1776 October 29, 2007 1:29 PM PDT

Bin Laden is in a wild lawless mountainous region nearly the size of Texas between Pakistan and Afghanistan living in some cave surrounded by gayrds who will execute him if capture is imminent, just living the good life. I''''m sure that description did nothing more than drum up your sympathy for the man and his cause. Posted by notblue at 12:22 PM

Yep, that''s my idea of the good life...sh*ttin in a cave with some "Gayrds" waiting to kill me. We had Bin Laden cornered at Tora Bora and then we took off for Iraq; an opportunity missed. Maybe the Gayrds were in on it.

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by finewoven October 29, 2007 1:29 PM PDT

The Republicans just aren''''t interested in facts, they are obsessed with saving face. It''''s really, really sad.
Posted by superdem at 09:48 AM : Oct 29, 2007

It''s not only sad, it is discouraging for those who have Republican ideals that are aghast at what those in power now are willing to do to save face. It strays from all that we learned as children, that a lie just becomes a bigger lie, that snowballs into a very harsh reality. And what of those young people who are forming their opinions as to becoming Republicans? Are they not fashioned in the new cadre of Republican non-ethics? People are concerned that Giuliani with is social conservative practices will create a schism in the party, but the problem is much more pronounced in the administration''s policies in Iraq.

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by squirley4 October 29, 2007 1:32 PM PDT

I am hungry for something. The return of our country to the greatest nation on earth. I want it returned to what it was before Bush and Cheney hijacked it and ran it into the iceberg. IF CLINTON HAD NOT BEEN THE COWARD THAT HE IS,BUSH & CHENEY WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO CLEAN UP HIS MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE!ALL HE WANTED TO DO WAS PLAY WITH MONICA IN THE OVAL OFFICE!

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by j-whitman October 29, 2007 1:32 PM PDT

getit1776,,,, Yep, he''s in a place the size of Texas.. Maybe we practice air strikes against Texas for to make sure we can get him, & the dude who let him get away.

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by micma-2009 October 29, 2007 1:33 PM PDT

notblue

Where is Bin Laden and why is he allowed to roam free, build his organization, and even put out press releases?

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by squirley4 October 29, 2007 1:35 PM PDT

..........CLINTON DOES NOT LIVE IN TEXAS......

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by j-whitman October 29, 2007 1:37 PM PDT

squirley4,,, Nope, they are about to live in the White House

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[brianbwb-2009]

"Akram Salman said it must have been an inside job because the suicide bomber apparently was able to penetrate heavy security surrounding the police camp without being searched. "

OK, who was providing security? If Al Qaeda is indeed guilty, answer this question, and then you know who is sponsoring Al Qaeda, and why.

[hungry1968]

I''m sure that all of the lunatic Bush supporters will tell us that the surge is working, and the only reason this happened is because Clinton got a BJ while he was in office. That''s the answer to everything that goes wrong with the Iraqi disaster - might as well add this to the list too.

[dogsoul]

As opposed to all the liberals who would fold & give the terrorists whatever they wanted in order to appease them... you traitor

[rowdytexan2]

"Read my lips....the surge is working."

Oh wait, wrong war mongerer.

[hungry1968]

As opposed to all the liberals who would fold & give the terrorists whatever they wanted in order to appease them... you traitor

Posted by dogsoul at 08:53 AM : Oct 29, 2007



Nice try. Your proof that the liberals would roll over and give them whatever they want is ...? The last time someone gave the terrorists whatever they wanted, was in June when our military was ordered to arm the Sunni insurgents to "fight al Qaeda". It wasn''t long before those weapons were turned on our troops. Or Haliburton losing two containers full of M-16''s and ammo. Or Blackwater selling weapons to the Kurds. Or Bush announcing his weapons sale to Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Or Bush giving $3 billion dollars of weapons and ammo to Israel. Shall I go on?

The fact remains that most liberals think that we should still be in Afghanistan hunting down bin Laden and bringing him to justice for 9/11 - not creating wars on false pretenses against countries that did nothing to us, and then arming our enemies like the current administration is doing.

[superdem]

These are people who have hated each other for centuries, with long scores to settle, but the killings never settle anything, only require retribution. They aren''t becoming like us - we are becoming like them. The madness the Republicans are seized with in this pursuit makes them hateful and impervious to reason, they have to lash out at those of us who actually want to pursue this nation''s interests. So, like the Iraqis, we have irreconcilable differences and are a nation at war with itself. The right accuses us of doing all we can to portray the Iraq War in a terrible light - but we are only telling the truth. In the House oversight hearings the Republicans tossed softballs to Condoleeza Rice, and criticized their Democratic colleagues for "punching holes in the boat" but the only real facts came from the Democrats'' questions. The Republicans just aren''t interested in facts, they are obsessed with saving face. It''s really, really sad.

[mcvet]

As opposed to all the liberals who would fold & give the terrorists whatever they wanted in order to appease them... you traitor


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Posted by dogsoul at 08:53 AM : Oct 29, 2007
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You got to admit you fascist, as simple minded as you are, do remember short hate messages. Now lets review. The People of Iraq had NOTHING to do with the attack on us! The People of Iraq had NO weapons! The People of Iraq had NO connection to Bin Laden. The REAL enemy, you freaks do remember him don''t you? Well he has completely rebuilt his orgainzation in ANOTHER Country and guess what he used to get young Arabs to join that organization? Yep our invasion of Iraq... now tell us all how you freaks can figure that "Liberal''s" are responsible for that mess? Sieg Heil Bush!! I guess what they say is true... you do have to be stupid to wear a swastika!!

[notblue]

It''s always hilarious to read posts from Asssholess like McVet. Talk about simple minded blind indifferance. Sadam was a genocidal maniac who used WMD''s on his own people. He was convicted of genocide and hung. His lack of transparency regarding WMD had everyone convinced he still had them even the Democrats. Now he is using hindsite to bloviate his hate America crapp. Anyone who believes that there are "terrorists"in just specific middle eastern countries and not all is a naive moron. Bin Laden has not rebuilt his organization, he is losinmg on every front and lives on the run and in hiding. BNecause we are actually fighting terrorism an many fronts those poor radicals that have been braibnwashed since childhood will join the fight, it is to be expected. These moron on the left think if we retreat and stop fighting the terrorist recruitment will stop and the world will be peaceful. Good luck with that plan as it does not work as multiple attacks against America right up until 911. What was the reason for the 911 attack since that happened before the Iraq war? The ingratess don''t have an answer for that but I''m sure as always they will blame America.

[micma-2009]

Iraq is a total disaster that will drain us of money, blood, power and prestige for the next decade. Thanks Bu$h. Thanks Republicons.

[notblue]

jihad6379, the fight is there NOW, that''s waht matters NOW. Sadam''s "control" involved murder, torture, death squads, total lack of civl rights and genocide. It figures you people take that stance, gutless blind indifference, your either a pascisfist or a terrorist, doesn''t matter that makes you part of the problem not the solution.

[notblue]

Jihad, the fight is worldwide, please list the countries the radiclas attacked over the last thirty years. They encompass the globe. We chose to fight an enemy in Iraq, not the militants, and now that they are there according to you we should just leave. Please expalin the sense of a plan like that. Your beloved BIn LAden knows the fight is there he says so, why don''t you go join your brothers in jihad, you will be gladly recieved, you already have the ideology down.

[micma-2009]

notblue


Where is Bin Laden?

[notblue]

Nacny Naive, what a perfect name!

[toldyouso21]

Did anyone read the story on RR about the Iraqi women who just graduated from the Police Academy and are serving now in Ramadi? They got 5 DAYS of training....

If this is the level of training we are having the Iraqis give people on the front lines of horror in Iraq--small wonder we are having such a hard time. Stand up? So we can stand down? Forget that--after 5 days, the police would have barely learned how to crawl--let alone stand up....

[toldyouso21]

Anyone who believes that there are "terrorists"in just specific middle eastern countries and not all is a naive moron. ... happened before the Iraq war? The ingratess don''''t have an answer for that but I''''m sure as always they will blame America.
Posted by notblue at 10:55 AM : Oct 29, 2007

1. Most people believe and it has been substantiated, that the 9/11 attack was an attempt to retaliate against the double std of support of Israel and hard fistedness to other ME countries--the terrorists proposed to strike at the true puppet master (the US) instead of our proxy (Israel) that has been the answer for years now.

2. YOu do have a point about terrorists being everywhere--even here. So why don''t we just bring everyone home, secure our borders, and turn our own country into FUBAR first, ferreting out all the terrorists here first? Maybe after a few years of bombs everywhere, death and destruction, we will know what exactly we caused in Iraq and having felt it first hand ourselves--would wish it on no one. Clean our own house first--before we go looking for other homes to destroy in the name of fighting extremists--be willing to die in our own lands first, before we expect others to be willing to die for our ideas about THEIR countries.

[toldyouso21]

Al Qaeda is Arabic for 700 Club.

Regards,
Posted by Nancy_Naive at 11:28 AM : Oct 29, 2007

My mom used to love to watch the 700 Club. When we were young, my mom cracked up laughing--because my little brother had another name for the show--he thought it was called "The Liars Club" When she heard that--she laughed so hard, that she cried. The point is not lost--that all extremism either Christian or any other religion is dangerous--it lends the title of righteousness to acts that God himself calls nothing but evil---torture anyone? What happened to what Christ said about "turning the other cheek?" "Loving your enemies" and "do unto others what you would have them do until you"

Personally, I doubt if notblue and others would want the horror of Iraq to be in the US or would want to be waterboarded to get info--a lot of people read the bible--but really miss the import. LOL great post NN

[mcvet]

Nacny Naive, what a perfect name!

Posted by notblue at 11:37 AM : Oct 29, 2007
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Typical Nazi Response!! ROFLMAO You bootlickers are so funny it''s sad! Sieg Heil Mein Fuhrer!!

[radiob-2009]

From another story but related.


"There is one young boy who is the sole survivor from that house,%u201D Pelley tells Karzai. %u201CA seven-year-old boy named Mujib. We asked him what he thought of the Americans and as you might expect, he said, ''I hate them.%u2019%u201D


This is how you create OBL''s.

[mcvet]

Jihad, the fight is worldwide, please list the countries the radiclas attacked over the last thirty years. They encompass the globe. We chose to fight an enemy in Iraq, not the militants, and now that they are there according to you we should just leave. Please expalin the sense of a plan like that. Your beloved BIn LAden knows the fight is there he says so, why don''''t you go join your brothers in jihad, you will be gladly recieved, you already have the ideology down.


Posted by notblue at 11:14 AM : Oct 29, 2007
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The fight is NOT world wide Sparky! The fight is with the guy who Planned and Ordered the attack against us. If you Bootlickers want to buy into that nazi garbage that''s okay but lets not try to make it something it isn''t. Iraq had NO WEAPONS, that was a LIE. Iraq had NO CONNECTION to the attack against us, that was Bin Laden. Now IF we are ever going to stop attacks against this nation we''d better start by bringing those who actually DID do the deed to justice. All Iraq has done is given them a way to bring in new Young Arabs to attack us. ANY FOOL should be able to understand that you are flat LOSING when you find out that your approach has not only not killed the enemy but has indeed been used to REBUILD the organization. No matter how many swastikas you wear that''s called LOSING!! Sieg Heil Bush!!

[notblue]

McVet, I wouldn''t let an ingrate like you near any normal Americans for fear you would spread your rabies.

Isn''t time for meeting with the other nazi skinheads, I''m sure you are a high ranking member as you love to spew the nazi slogans, only an idiot would spew that anti-Amrican pro nazi crapp. Keep it up it shows your true colors, black white and red.

[notblue]

Mcnazi, give me a list of middle eastern countries that terrosist are not present, then head to Africa, then southeast asia, how about Europe. What a moron you are. Is political agenda so important to you that you would be willing endanger your country out of hatred for it''s leaders? Or are you just a jihadist in leftwing clothing fighting for your cause over the internet, either fits.

[micma-2009]

notblue


Where is Bin Laden?

[notblue]

Bin Laden is in a wild lawless mountainous region nearly the size of Texas between Pakistan and Afghanistan living in some cave surrounded by gayrds who will execute him if capture is imminent, just living the good life. I''m sure that description did nothing more than drum up your sympathy for the man and his cause.

[stevex47]

Notblue,
Are you doing the same drugs Rush does? Wow, you are addicted. You learned their spin real good. It''s just that after 8 years of watching the right wing nazi spin tactics, we''re on to you. You''re one of the few left still suppporting the lost repugnant regime. Good luck.

[squirley4]

All you loony democrats out there, can keep on spitting out your trash all you want!Follow those crazy democratic loons in Washington,believe them all you want,vote for them.As to why we went to war is not the question now!That was then & this is now!!We need to win there!Our guys in Iraq ARE winning there!And do not want to leave until the Iraq''s are ready for us to go,and their job is done!If you want to know what is true,I suggest that you morons watch"Fox News"!!On Hannity''s America Sunday night.There was a soldier on that proved that Murtha is nothing but a dirty,filthy lying democrat(not to mention the rest).

[squirley4]

Continued....You trash Bush and anyone that is not a democrat,but can you name me one of them(democrats) in Washington that has matched the amount that Rush Limbaugh got on ebay on the "Dingy harrys smear letter"?No because it(the money) went to soldiers families,and they "hate"our soldiers,just like they hate Bush.There were 41 democrats that tried to bring Rush down,but that didn''t happen,you probably know nothing on that subject though!Rush challenged all or any of them to match the bid,but not one did!It brought 2mil.and Rush matched that,so the children of fallen soldiers did good "without the dems money HUH?

[hungry1968]

Awesome picture here. The tombstones are hilarious!!

http://bp0.blogger.com/_XNXLcHFsW1U/Rx9pd8S0j0I/AAAAAAAABwU/3ananH9yxvY/s1600-h/Haunted+Bush.jpg

[squirley4]

continued.... There are enough good people on "Air" out there,not to mention"Fox News",(They are fair&balanced and will give both sides of an issue)that gets the "REAL TRUTH OUT TO THE PEOPLE",and hopefully it will even penetrate the minds of all you trash mouthing democrats(if you will just listen).My advice to you, would be to not listen to the LIARS that you(and myself) put in office,clean house there and listen to the ones I mention here.You people have brains&can think for yourself.But if you listen and wait for your leaders to give you the real truth you will be waiting a long time(I waited).Get some leaders that you can trust.I finally did!

[squirley4]

continued.... I am 63 yrs old was a democrat all my life BUT NO MORE!There are no GOOD democrats left.So people tune in your RADIO''S TALK SHOWS AND LISTEN TO WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON IN WASHINGTON,America,AND THE IRAQ WAR!We "the people out here" need all the help we can get,for the world that our kids and grandkids are going to grow up in.And NO I do not like the dems because they have steered me wrong all these yrs.I finally know it now!When I speak of the democrats,I am speaking of the ones in office!You will never know what I mean until you know both sides of an issue.

[tejasdemo]

If this had happened here today the news would be freaking out. All kinds of analysis from a bunch of "experts" about why it happened and what we should do about it.

But since it happened in Iraq it will get this little blurb on the front page and will eventually get replaced by the latest Britney c rap or some story about where Bush had a poop today.

Very sad.

[notblue]

Stevex47, I do not always agree with the Republicans or the Democrats, I vote for those who I hope will be good for America. I will never call the the Deomcratically elected government of the greatest country on earth a "regime". It shows your true colors, there are a many "regimes" in this world, ingrates like yourself need to visit one, maybe that will allow you to realize the ignorance you and the rest of the ilk that think and talk like you.

[rerrorislam3]

LOOK WHO IS TARGETING CIVILIANS!!!

Qaeda warns of attacks ''worse than 9/11''
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070530102648.wuwa6k96&show_article=1

Hizbullah Deputy Sec-Gen Sheikh Naim Qassem: We Have Jurisprudent Permission to Carry Out ''Martyrdom'' Operations, Fire Missiles on Israeli Civilians From Ayatollah Khomeini
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154907

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108
American Al Qaeda Member Threatens Attack
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/29/terror/main2865282.shtml

[radiob-2009]

It''s not a regime it''s a group of "lap poodles" on both sides of the aisle same with all of the presidential candiates.

[hungry1968]

Posted by squirley4 at 12:30 PM : Oct 29, 2007

"As to why we went to war is not the question now!That was then & this is now!!We need to win there!"

Translation: Okay you anti-war people are right. The reason that we went in was based on lies, but who cares?



"I suggest that you morons watch"Fox News"!!On Hannity''''s America Sunday night."

That''s hilarious!!! You call us morons, and in the same breath you tell us to listen to wannabe White House spokesman Hannity!! For what? Fair and impartial reporting?!?!

Absurd!!!
LOL

[squirley4]

To you sunsetbillyb... How can I calm down,when there are people like you out there that can not see past the nose on their face.Of course it was bad news,especially for their families and us.But everytime you read the bad news go to the places you need to and hear good news also!

[squirley4]

And you also hungry1968,You must be really hungry for something....Maybe Hannity,A little Fox maybe.No I do not need any meds.I am in my right mind now....Just praying for the world out there!

[micma-2009]

notblue


Where is Bin Laden? Why is he allowed to roam free, build his organization, and even put out press releases?

[hungry1968]

And you also hungry1968,You must be really hungry for something....Maybe Hannity,A little Fox maybe.No I do not need any meds.I am in my right mind now....Just praying for the world out there!

Posted by squirley4 at 12:58 PM : Oct 29, 2007


I am hungry for something. The return of our country to the greatest nation on earth. I want it returned to what it was before Bush and Cheney hijacked it and ran it into the iceberg. The last thing that any responsible person with a brain needs is to listen to the brain dead ramblings of Hannity, Coulter, O''Reilly, Beck, or Limbaugh. You''ll get more intelligent and biased reporting out of a high school newspaper than you will out of this coffee clutch.

Is it any surprise that what they report is different from EVERY OTHER NEWS SOURCE IN THE WORLD??? I mean I could see if they reported it one way, and NBC reported it another. But when EVERY news station and news paper tells you something and they all agree with each other, and then Fox comes along with their "roses are red" version, who are we supposed to believe?

Take the blinders off man!! You make us in the over 40 crowd look like senile imbeciles!!!

[notblue]

Micma, I answered your question a few posts back but I will again.

Bin Laden is in a lawless monutainous region nearly the size of Texas between the countries of Afghanistan and Pakistan. He is in a cave surrounded by body gaurds who willexecute him if capture is imminent. His press releases come via Al Jazeera, another enemy of freedom who supports and enables terrorists not unlike the leftwing in this country, always blaming America while justifying the actions of the Jihadists, calling Bin Laden and his minion "freedom fighters" etc. etc.

[squirley4]

for you hungry1968....Why do you think that Fox and all the others that you mentioned got started in the first place?I told you we needed all the help that we could get because we are not getting it in washington!As for Fox they are #1,check the facts!As for this administration,what about the one before this one?

[micma-2009]

notblue

Where is Bin Laden and why is he allowed to roam free, build his organization, and even put out press releases?

[jon_mccain]

Posted by rerrorislam3 at 12:43 PM

I see CBS is getting better at identifying and shutting down the C&P rantings of lars008, good for them.

[squirley4]

..............senile imbeciles!!! .............AND HERE''S YOUR SIGN................

[getit1776]

Bin Laden is in a wild lawless mountainous region nearly the size of Texas between Pakistan and Afghanistan living in some cave surrounded by gayrds who will execute him if capture is imminent, just living the good life. I''''m sure that description did nothing more than drum up your sympathy for the man and his cause. Posted by notblue at 12:22 PM

Yep, that''s my idea of the good life...sh*ttin in a cave with some "Gayrds" waiting to kill me. We had Bin Laden cornered at Tora Bora and then we took off for Iraq; an opportunity missed. Maybe the Gayrds were in on it.

[finewoven]

The Republicans just aren''''t interested in facts, they are obsessed with saving face. It''''s really, really sad.
Posted by superdem at 09:48 AM : Oct 29, 2007

It''s not only sad, it is discouraging for those who have Republican ideals that are aghast at what those in power now are willing to do to save face. It strays from all that we learned as children, that a lie just becomes a bigger lie, that snowballs into a very harsh reality. And what of those young people who are forming their opinions as to becoming Republicans? Are they not fashioned in the new cadre of Republican non-ethics? People are concerned that Giuliani with is social conservative practices will create a schism in the party, but the problem is much more pronounced in the administration''s policies in Iraq.

[squirley4]

I am hungry for something. The return of our country to the greatest nation on earth. I want it returned to what it was before Bush and Cheney hijacked it and ran it into the iceberg. IF CLINTON HAD NOT BEEN THE COWARD THAT HE IS,BUSH & CHENEY WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO CLEAN UP HIS MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE!ALL HE WANTED TO DO WAS PLAY WITH MONICA IN THE OVAL OFFICE!

[j-whitman]

getit1776,,,, Yep, he''s in a place the size of Texas.. Maybe we practice air strikes against Texas for to make sure we can get him, & the dude who let him get away.

[micma-2009]

notblue

Where is Bin Laden and why is he allowed to roam free, build his organization, and even put out press releases?

[squirley4]

..........CLINTON DOES NOT LIVE IN TEXAS......

[j-whitman]

squirley4,,, Nope, they are about to live in the White House