Obama Ratchets Up Criticism of Clinton

Barack Says Hillary Is 'Ducking' Social Security Issue

(WASHINGTONPOST.COM)  By Perry Bacon Jr.
Sen. Barack Obama yesterday slammed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for "ducking the issue" of ensuring the solvency of Social Security and signaled that he will take a more aggressive approach to the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination.

At an event in Des Moines, Obama (D-Ill.) characterized Clinton's approach to addressing the issues as "You should hedge, dodge and spin, but at all costs, don't answer."

The statements marked the latest escalation of campaign rhetoric from a candidate who earlier this year declined to criticize his chief opponent for the nomination. Increasingly, he is taking on not just Clinton's policy views but also her character, and is casting the Democratic front-runner as someone who makes decisions based on polls and calculation, rather than on her convictions.

To emphasize this theme, Obama, who trails Clinton (D-N.Y.) by a wide margin in national polls, was introduced at the event by Tod Bowman, a Democrat and high school teacher in Maquoketa, Iowa. He said Clinton ducked his question about Social Security at an event this month.

"It made me wonder: If a candidate won't answer a question on the campaign trail, how can we be sure she'll be honest with the American people when they're president?" Bowman said at an event at a senior citizen center in Des Moines.

Clinton's aides counter that Obama has also failed to offer a detailed plan to address Social Security's solvency.

"Senator Clinton has been clear and consistent about her position on Social Security," spokesman Phil Singer said. "As president, her first priority will be restoring fiscal responsibility and fair tax policies, and then will work in a bipartisan process to address Social Security's long-term challenges."

This argument and Obama's tone in taking on Clinton are a clear shift. Last month, his aides said he would focus on policy differences with Clinton.

But in recent weeks, Obama has poked fun at Clinton, an Illinois native, for not answering a question in a debate about whether she would cheer for the New York Yankees or the Chicago Cubs if they both made the World Series, and he has criticized "triangulation and poll-driven politics," a reference to Bill Clinton's attempts to capture the center during his administration. In his attacks against Hillary Clinton, Obama only this month has begun regularly uttering the words "Senator Clinton," rather than criticizing "the Washington establishment" or unnamed others.

"There's a whole range of issues she has been less than forthcoming, and she's made a judgment that this is a good political strategy," David Axelrod, Obama's chief political adviser, said yesterday.

In an interview with the New York Times that will be published today, Obama himself made a similar criticism.

"Now, it's been very deft politically," he told the Times of Clinton's strategy. "But one of the things that I firmly believe is that we've got to be clear with the American people right now about the important choices that we're going to need to make in order to get a mandate for change, not to try to obfuscate and avoid being a target in the general election."

Obama's critiques of Clinton come as his campaign -- once carried by enthusiasm, as illustrated by huge crowds and prodigious fundraising -- is increasingly beset by a perception that it has stalled. With Clinton in command of the lead in polls, Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), a civil rights activist who had praised Obama earlier this year and talked excitedly about the promise of the first black president, this month stunned Obama's aides by saying he will back Clinton. And late last week, Robert Farmer, a veteran Democratic fundraiser who was on Obama's national finance team, moved to the Clinton camp.

Axelrod said Obama's increasingly pointed comments represent a "natural evolution" as the primary season approaches, rather than a strategic reversal.

Obama, who said he did not want to "knee-cap" Clinton, is still careful in his criticism, not mentioning Whitewater or other 1990s Clinton controversies, which another rival, former senator John Edwards (D-N.C.), has not shied away from addressing.

The Times reported that Obama said Clinton is "an admirable person" and "a capable senator," while suggesting that she would struggle to win a general election.

"If Hillary Clinton is the nominee, then we have a repetition of 2000 and 2004," he said. "There's no change in the political map. I'm not making predictions specifically about which way Ohio or Florida will go, but what you do know is that 45 percent of the country will be on one side and 45 percent of the country will be on the other. . . . There's not going to be an expansion of the electorate. I don't think anybody would claim that Senator Clinton is going to inspire a horde of new voters. I don't think it's realistic that she is going to get a whole bunch of Republicans to think differently about her."

Singer pointed to Clinton's strong performance in her two Senate victories in New York as evidence that she would be a winning candidate if she got the nomination.

"Senator Clinton beats each of the leading Republicans in poll after poll, because voters know she has the strength and experience to end the war, reform health care and get our economy back on track," Singer said. "She's got a proven track record of getting things done in the Senate by working with Democrats and Republicans."

Clinton, Obama and the rest of the Democratic field will meet in a debate Tuesday night in Philadelphia.

[erichsh]

Headline: "Hillary Evasive on Social Security Question". It isn''t Obama''s accusation. It''s Hillary''s factually established, demonstrated evasiveness. She ducks the question in public, then whispers an answer privately to the questioner which an A.P. reporter happened to hear and (surprisingly) reported.

[azagod1]

Wow! To me that would be expected of her. It sounds typical. Curious to see what these hating-type bloggers gotta say about the great Obama.

[sblake63]

Wow! To me that would be expected of her. It sounds typical. Curious to see what these hating-type bloggers gotta say about the great Obama.

Posted by azagod1 at 11:27 AM : Oct 28, 2007
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Notice how liberals are hung up on the whole love hate thing. If you "correct me" so therefore you are a hater. If you believe in Christ and you think the country is going to "hell in a hand basket" because of the likes of Hillary and Obama you are a hater type.

The word hater came from the urban slums of America. Its unprofessional to even use such a word that came from street thugs. Could it be some of the morals of the street thugs and low class inner city trash has found its way into the lower ranks of the middle class?

Get over it liberals. You may be clustered in and around big cities. But your average home owning, church going American won%u2019t stand for your nonsense much longer. I see a November 2008 surprise coming LOL.

This browser I am using has some kind of active spell checker running all the and strangely enough it tries to change Obama to Osama LMAO. I think the spell checker is on to something :)

[prairiefox1]

THEY ARE ALL PART OF THE INFECTION AFFECTING OUR GOVERNMENT! TO GET RID OF THIS DISEASE WE HAVE TO CUT AWAY ALL OF THE INFECTION OR WE WILL GET MORE OF THE SAME!

[xlib]

Where is the coverage of hill and her campaign contributions from china town??
Why no coverage of the non-English speaking dishwashers being forced to contribute to her??
Since your gal is so tight with the Chinese population maybe she can do something about the tainted products from China.
Sweet how your msm picks and chooses what it covers. Real sweet.

[xlib]

airmant5-How much do you want to bet that the clintonistas will stop the dvd somehow. Look at how the clinton have prevented abc from releasing Path to 9/11. Talk about infringing on our rights, these people are pros.

[chirumbolo]

It doesn''t matter. O-Bomb-A has proven himself to be ill-prepared for the national scene and not suited for the office.

O-Bomb-A repeatedly under performs in candidate forums; he makes major campaign blunders one after the other; his foreign policy ideas are dangerously naive; his wife is a loose cannon with a big mouth on the campaign trail; and his phony new style politics has been unmasked, showing him to be nothing more than a preening, egotistical and hypocritical snake oil salesman - and not a very good one at that.

Shut up Barry and go away.

[condumism]

posted by a phoney Xlib
Look at how the clinton have prevented abc from releasing Path to 9/11. Talk about infringing on our rights.

YOur reichts to pure propoganda? Tell US jinGOPig, who put up the money for this ridiculous piece of work which you jinGOPigs claim to be a documentary? YOu fascists are so brainwashed, you call anything that is anti liberal as a documentary, when the fact is it is infotainment, not a documentary of facts in any way..

[chucktruck2]

Because of the quilt that I feel about the bigotry of my granparents ,I am thinking of voting for Obama. Or a vote for Rudy is a vote for Hillary. Rudy can not win with only 1 % of the PROLIFERS vote. They voted for CARTER a Dem.. The PROLIFERS swung over to CARTER like TARZAN to JANE. And Hillary has lost 24 % of her base because of her luggage full of baggage .Hillary''s, dare I say flipn and flopn, is making me want to puck. What position will Hillary change to next? I guess that means it will be Ann Romney left to kick Hillary''s *#*. "Evangelicals for Mitt " good blog.and the reason he got 51 % of the PROLIFERS vote . Why do you think that he as always been for gay rights and is still for marriage being between a man and a woman? No flip no flop . go to the sourse . You may be be getting lied to. And I hate a liar.

[johnbinnj]

Hey Obama....SHUT UP
Everyone knew this was coming. Sen Clinton''s lead is growing faster than a Calif wildfire, through her own hard work and the only hope the others have is to slander her. Wimpy politics.
SHUT UP OBAMA

[ringading3]

Don''t you just love it! The Clintons who have used the Black vote to get to the positions they have held over the years, now is getting bit in the arse by Blacks who support Osama. I am really enjoying the whole scene.

[cryonbrian]

Funny how people say Mr. Obama is not prepared to run the country. Wow with the current state of America it would be safe to say that our current leaders were over prepared?

[likeitis5050]

We must have have an entire nation of people new to the planet not to know how corrupt Hillary is by now. If the polls show she is has this kind of lead, then it''s even more reason to question her integrity. She is not even close to being able to stand and place a hand on a Bible and swear an oath to this country.

[sharncedar]

"Senator Clinton has been clear and consistent about her position on Social Security," spokesman Phil Singer said. "As president, her first priority will be restoring fiscal responsibility and fair tax policies, and then will work in a bipartisan process to address Social Security''s long-term challenges."


What can I say? If we vote for a weasel like this, we deserve to lose Social Security, we deserve NAFTA, we deserve the endless budget-destroying War On Terror and all of the other ideas of the Vicious and repugnant Clintons.

[imprisonbush]

I liked Obama until I heard him say the shrub and President Cheney have done nothing that deserves impeachment. Then I realized he lacked the judgment to be President. All Republican war criminals who have lied to this country to justify their Iraq invasion have committed treason and need to be rounded arrested, incarcertated at Gutanamo, prosecuted (with lawyers for their defense), convicted and then shot (without blindfolds so they can anticipate the bullets).

[cmp271]

Obama is right about Hillary. She does not state her position clearly.

She also has a lot of baggage we do not need in our White House. She is guilty of a great many things-Whitewater for one, the missing files that seemed to just turn up, the mess her husbands administration was in, the turmoil this country was put through, and she is not a good Senator. She only wants the power of the position. She is no more qualified to be President than I am!! And yes, even though it was her husbands position at the time, we all know it is also the wife who helps behind the scenes. She was up to no good either as the wife of the President, and also caused trouble. For her to lie and say she didn''t know he was having other women is an affront to all the women of this country. She is a joke to most of us women.

Get her out of this race. She also only won in NY because Lazio was an unknown and entered the election too late in 2000. This last time, the GOP did not have a good State party leader. Minarik would not back Faso either causing us to lose the Governorship.

[sblake63]

Any Christian who votes for Obama needs a serious rebuke from a fellow Christian. How dare he put on this phoney "Gospel" farce by allowing an openly gay preacher join the tour? He thinks he is attracting the religious vote? Lmao didn%u2019t take him long to step out of the sheep suit did he? Can%u2019t really call him a wolf Lmao! He''s an obvious coward!

I attend one of the largest most "hated" (by the left) churches in San Antonio (hint hint LOL). And I can tell you this, this nonsense from the democrats trying to immitate "people of faith" has backfired on them. Instead of attracting us, it''s engergized us to get out the Christian vote in 2008 - Expect a surprise in 08!!!

[usaprophet]

I want to report a major fire, friends. CBS isn''t reporting it. Our Constitution is on fire. And it''s currently being burned in Congress. See H.R. 1955, a.k.a., Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007. I couldn''t believe it. Apparently, activists with Web sites are really begining to anger the elite insofar as they are publically holding officials accountable for their evil. The bill passed the house on Oct 23, in spite of Congressman, Ron Paul''s opposition. The right to free speech on the Internet is gone, my friends. Look it up for yourself, and weep for your country as I have that our rights have eroded this far. Here''s a short excerpt from the bill''s DEFINITIONS statement: "The development and implementation of methods and processes that can be utilized to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in the United States is critical to combating domestic terrorism." Here''s another excerpt from the bill''s FINDINGS statement: "The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens." And guess who get''s to decide what is "terrorist-related propaganda?" You got it! The Department of Homeland Insecurity, an agency that''s answerable ONLY to The President. If Ron Paul isn''t elected, our country is doomed!

[usaprophet]

I agree with Dr. Paul on the Social Security issue. Our nation''s promise to its seniors, once considered a sacred trust, has become little more than a tool for politicians to scare retirees while robbing them of their promised benefits to pay for militarization. Today, the Social Security system is both broke and broken. Those in the system are seeing their benefits dwindle due to higher taxes, increasing inflation, and irresponsible military spending. The proposed solutions, ranging from lower benefits to higher taxes to increasing the age of eligibility, are NOT solutions; they are betrayals. Imposing any tax on Social Security benefits is unfair and illogical. In Congress, Dr. Paul introduced the Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act (H.R. 191), which repeals ALL taxes on Social Security benefits, to eliminate political theft of our seniors'' income and raise their standard of living. Solvency is the key to keeping our promise to our seniors, and he introduced the Social Security Preservation Act (H.R. 219) to ensure that money paid into the system is ONLY used for Social Security. Also, it is fundamentally unfair to give benefits to anyone who has not paid into the system. The Social Security for Americans Only Act (H.R. 190), which Ron Paul supported, ends the drain on Social Security caused by illegal aliens seeking the fruits of your labor. We must also address the widespread desire of younger workers to save for retirement on their own.

[fredgrad2000]

BOY!! It must be SOOOOOO frustrating for the left-wing loons in this country these days! I almost feel bad for the nutjobs. No matter how much distortion that they throw into the blogosphere through Media Matters and DailyKos, or how much of Sugar Daddy Loonball Soros'' money they spend, or how many weekly conf calls they make to their congressional patsies, or how much the mainstream media bends to their ideology, they just cannot get ANY traction in this country. A candidate who says troops will probably be in Iraq through 2013, who labels (rightly) the Iranian revolutionary guard as a terrorist organization, who won''t take any options off the table with Iran, who''s husband publicly bashes the 9/11 conspiracy wackos is leading every major poll and every early state in the left-wing party''s presidential nomination process....and not just leading, but holding more support than all the MoveOn.org approved candidates (Kucinich, Edwards, Gravel, even Obama now) combined!! In an election that gives the looney left the best chance they''ve had in decades to make a run at real power, even the Democratic primary voters (the most liberal people in the American electorate) are running away from the looney left...it must just be soooo frustrating for you loons....I feel for you, I really do, I swear.

[usaprophet]

Dr. Paul., an OB/GYN physician, has been the national leader in preserving our Health Freedom. He feels that Americans are justifiably concerned over the government''s escalating intervention into their freedom to choose what they eat and how they take care of their health. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA), in order to comply with standards dictated by supra-national organizations such as the UN''s World Food Code (CODEX), NAFTA, and CAFTA, has been assuming greater control over nutrients, vitamins and natural health care providers to restrict your right to choose the manner in which you manage your health and nutritional needs. He introduced the Health Freedom Protection Act, HR 2117, to ensure Americans can receive truthful health information about supplements and natural remedies. He supports the Access to Medical Treatment Act, H.R. 2717, which expands the ability of Americans to use alternative medicine and new treatments. He opposes legislation that increases the FDA''s legal powers. FDA has consistently failed to protect the public from dangerous drugs, genetically modified foods, dangerous pesticides and other chemicals in the food supply. Meanwhile they waste public funds attacking safe, healthy foods and dietary supplements. He also opposed the Homeland Security Bill, H.R. 5005, which, in section 304, authorizes the forced vaccination of American citizens against small pox. The government should never have the power to require immunizations or vaccinations.

[usaprophet]

Unlike Hitlery and the so-called GOP frontrunner, Giuliani, Dr. Paul fights for the right of an innocent, unborn child. He believes the right to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty. His professional and legislative record demonstrates his strong commitment to this pro-life principle. In 40 years of medical practice, he never once considered performing an abortion, nor did he ever find abortion necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman. In Congress, he authored legislation that seeks to define life as beginning at conception (HR 1094). He is also the prime sponsor of HR 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life. This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn. He also authored HR 1095, which prevents federal funds to be used for population control. Many other GOP candidates, except Giuliani, talk about being pro-life. Ron Paul took direct action to restore protection for the unborn. As an OB/GYN doctor, he delivered over 4,000 babies. That experience made him an unshakable foe of abortion. Many of you may have his book, Challenge To Liberty, which champions the idea that there cannot be liberty in a society unless the rights of all innocents are protected. Ron Paul respects the dignity of human life.

[frb01]

Hillary Clinton ran on the promise of all the jobs she was going to bring here to upstate NY in 2000, she hasn''t brought any. She was elected to the Senate in 2000, Obama in 2004. To me the diffence in experience is four years. And Obama has had state legislative experience to narrow that gap. If elected we know that her husband will be one of her advisors, but who will be the others. And who would Obama choose. That seems the most important. Hillary has a very high negative rating, approaching 50%. Can the Democrats make her the nominee and risk that she would lose? She would be a lightning rod for the GOP to focus on. I think Obama should turn up the heat, particularly in the area of foreign policy. She browbeated Obama on his willingness to meet with our enemies. Maybe we should hear some of her concrete ideas instead of dancing around the issues. If we end up with a choice of Hillary and Rudy, I think we as American''s end up losing because we need two better choices.

[usaprophet]

Most Americans just don''t seem to care that our country, along with the Constitutional principles upon which it was founded, are being flushed-down the toilet by our nations ruling elite. While most of Congress and the President warn and insite fear in the sheeple about the prospect of terrorism, they at the same time fund and conduct illegal wars overseas which do nothing but encite the terrorism they say their new Draconian Laws like the Patriot Act and The Real ID Act are here to protect us from. Think about it. What would you do, if someone invaded the U.S. for no reason, and took over. You''d be mad as hell, and you''d be making trips to their country in order to give a little payback. Wake up America! It''s not about protecting you from terrorism, or saving our planet from Global Warming, or any of that fear-mongering garbage the tube feeds you 24/7. It''s about feeding the military industrial complex and facilitating the ruling elite''s ability to ratchet-down control over the American people, placing them into a total control grid where they can surveille, track and monitor (control) everywhere we go and everything we do. It''s the groundwork for totalitarianism. I weep for my country, and for those who are so distracted, dumbed-down, or outright brainwashed by mainstream media, which endlessly regurgitates scientifically-crafted streams of information aimed at keeping their eyes closed to the realities of the world around them, that they fail to recognize this. Go Ron Paul!.

[jonesforch]

Senator Clinton has been clear and consistent about her position on Social Security,"

There it it once again she takes away..any one wonder how she is paying for all this? 401K for everyone $1000.00 bond for EVERY child BORN?

[okinup]

Well, Clintons got many flaws. For one, her husband, whose ilk probably think his sexxxxual affairs were no ones business but his own. If they were no ones business but his own, why were they on my teevee set? And second of all, I really didn''t like what she said about not talking to representatives of other hostile countries. I hate to break this to you champaign committees, but thats your job (yours too Condi). You guy get the easy part (talk''n). And thats supposed to be one of the reasons why people elect you. Because you got that tongue that does the nub thing. She''s also a very very unspecific aka vague politician. Its almost like she doesn''t owe anybody any explanations. That we should just trust her. And we''ve all heard that before, only her trust doesn''t seem to be from something familiar (the Christian right), but something else (I don''t know what that is).

Also, shes touting experience, and she''s a junior senator. And from what I understand, she hasn''t accomplished very much for New York other than raising the price of cigarettes.

For being a new democratic academic (the election of the first woman president), she sure doesn''t seem to have very many fresh new ideas.. does she.

[okinup]

First woman president should be at least a.. 37.. 24.. 36.

[okinup]

Also, blond isn''t the way to go for first woman president. Blonds tend to be too showy.. Too relying on looks. Just a little socio-psychological perspective there.. *sniff*

[okinup]

Brunette would be better..

[okinup]

Healthcare? Romney has a plan that isn''t going to obtrude on this country''s superior healthcare research position and standing in the world via government mandate. For instance, it used to be that healthcare costs for a family were somewhere around 800 bucks a month. Well now they''ve gone down to about 120. And they might even go lower than that. No government interference.. no beaurocracy. 45 million people not covered by healthcare isn''t that many people ya know.. Especially today. When you''re in transition between jobs, your healthcare often gets cut and moves with you. I''ll betcha people are jurying up the numbers on that one a bit, exaggerating for the sake of drama. Healthcare has never really been a problem in this country except for the price of drugs. And once you allow generic drug manufacturing, those costs will come down too.

[okinup]

Nope.. this chick ain''t got very much going for her if ya ask me.

[jonesforch]

okinup

Like you maybe? she is unstable leave it at that.

[ringading3]

And Dodd is so mad that no one is even looking at him. LOL

[rowdytexan2]

Mr. Obama is hurting himself as he jeers at Ms. Clinton...and he so obviously does not have the experience to know how tired people are of this ***.

He should be just concentrating on what he''s going to do since he has a lot of catching up to do before he''s allowed to be president.

At one time I might have voted for him if he had come out as a strong candidate in his own right. There is more honor in speaking of yourself highly, than tearing down someone else, especially if you are the inexperienced underdog.

This is going to be enuff of a nasty campaign just to get a democrat nominated. The republicans would tear him to shreds.

Hillary has already been there, and still comes out strong against them...I want her at my back.

[downtowner97]

Won''t this be embarrassing when Hillary picks Obama to be her veep?

[usaprophet]

I support Congressman, Ron Paul for President. There is something homespun about Paul, reminiscent of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. He communicates with his constituents through birthday cards, August barbecues and the cookbooks his wife puts together every election season, which mix photos of grandchildren, Gospel passages and neighbors'' recipes for Velveeta cheese fudge and Cherry Coke salad. He is listed in the phone book, and his constituents call him at home. But there is also something cosmopolitan and radical about him; his speeches can bring to mind the World Social Forum or the French international-affairs periodical Le Monde Diplomatique. Ron Paul represents a different Republican Party from the one that Iraq, deficits and corruption have soured the country on. His school of Republicanism stands for a certain idea of the Constitution the idea that much of the power asserted by modern Presidents has been usurped from Congress, and that much of the power asserted by Congress has been usurped from the States. Though Paul acknowledges flaws in both the Constitution (it included slavery) and the Bill of Rights (it doesn''t go far enough), he still thinks a comprehensive array of positions can be drawn from them: against gun control; for the sovereignty of states; and against foreign-policy adventures like the one underway in Iraq, and soon Iran.

[usaprophet]

Most Americans just don''t seem to care that our country, along with the Constitution upon which it was founded, is being flushed-down the NWO toilet by our nations ruling elite. Most of Congress and the President warn and insite fear in the sheeple about the prospect of terrorism, while they at the same time fund and conduct illegal wars overseas that do nothing but encite the terrorism which they say their new Draconian Laws like the Patriot Act and The Real ID Act pretend to protect us from. Think about it. What would you do, if someone invaded the U.S. for no reason, and took over. You''d be mad as hell, and you''d be making trips to their country in order to give a little payback. Wake up America! It''s not about protecting you from terrorism, or saving our planet from Global Warming, or any of that fear-mongering garbage the tube feeds you 24/7. It''s about feeding the military industrial complex and facilitating the ruling elite''s ability to ratchet-down control over the American people, placing them into a total control grid where they can surveille, track and control everywhere you go and everything you do. It''s the groundwork for totalitarianism. I weep for my country, and for those who are so distracted, dumbed-down, or outright brainwashed by mainstream media, which endlessly regurgitates scientifically-crafted streams of information aimed at keeping their eyes closed to the realities of the world around them, that they fail to recognize this. Go Ron Paul!.

[usaprophet]

What''s Ron''s message? Whatever you think Dr. Paul''s campaign is about, the main thing it has done thus far is to serve as a clearinghouse for voters like me who feel unrepresented by New World Order Fasciscts (mainstream Republicans) and their Socialist comrades in crime (mainstream Democrats). They''re actually one and the same. There is no real difference between the two parties. Most people, though, are too distracted, dumbed-down, or outright brainwashed by mainstream media, which endlessly regurgitates scientifically-crafted streams of information and entertainment aimed at imprisoning your mind and keeping your eyes closed to the realities of the world around you, to recognize this. Those currently in power, and those being groomed to take [major] political power, are the global elite, and we are their "plebs." People on the right and those on the left have many differences, maybe irreconcilable ones. But they have a lot of common beliefs too, and their numbers and anger are of a considerable magnitude. No matter what happens in 2008, I personally believe Ron Paul will influence the national conversation about what the role of the federal government is, how much power should government have over our lives, how much liberty we should give up for security. These are important issues, and frankly, no one''s talking about them as seriously and sincerely as Ron Paul. What''s for sure is that his growing army of supporters like me will be a force to be reckoned with in 2008.

[janet1986]

Any woman who held her composure after her husband committed adultry, especially being First Lady in spotlight, will be able to handle any crisis that are up ahead for her. Go Hilary!

[feelfree1]

I wonder how much longer that Clinton will be able to withstand the occasional and mild criticisms from Obama?

[tbweb]

Some things that are consistently true defy logic and reason because you know they should be false but they are true anyway and it does not seem to make any sense, one case in point is that nice guys come in last!

[adian1-2009]

Clinton will be our nominee. But. . . who is going to stop Obama from helping the Republicans from keeping the White House? If Obama is unable to realize that in order to change things for the best we have to be in power first, then he is wrong. If he has decided to trash Ms. Clinton, he has made a wrong choice. I would pay attention to him if he tells me not an umbrella statement of change without particulars, but what he is going to change, what will we get as a result of such change, and how is he going to achieve change. Tell me WHAT is what you propose. Trashing a rival won''t work, Obama, at least with me.

[tbweb]

Posted by adian1 at 05:41 AM : Oct 29, 2007,,,

I agree, I suggested Sen. Obama and the Democrats close ranks and speak with one voice a while ago to increase the Dems chances of success. I''m only interested in seeing a fair fight and as we know the Republicans fight dirty and at times even nasty because winning is all Republicans care about! At this point all Sen. Obama is doing is giving the opposition ammo for the General Election! But the main reason I agree with you is because even Sen. Obama admits the game is "rigged", "fixed", so in that case why is he going there against Sen. Clinton? I''m sure Sen. Obama would not be complaining if the game was "rigged" in his favor instead! But all this goes out the window if Sen. Obama wins Iowa and is only valid if his loses Iowa. Another hidden problem Sen. Clinton faces is Americans are getting a little tired of passing the baton between Bush, Clinton, Bush and now maybe Clinton again! This is an election about "CHANGE"!

[cajetano]

Can we start this election process again? I''m tired of having absolutely no choice to make.

They are a bunch of spineless, "go as the wind blows" bags of hot air.

I would rather vote for a crook who''s not afraid to tell us he''s a crook; at least he would be honest. Pandering should not be a qualification to running for office.

[davidchery]

The race will be between Clinton & Guiliani. Obama doesn''t matter. The dogs have already been let out, so you know the scandal police will be everywhere. But hello, please wake up everyone! We seriously need the Clintons back in the White House! Desperately! If it doesn''t get turned around soon, our nation is in real trouble. PLEASE, VOTE FOR HILLARY!!

[gunownerdan]

CFR(Council on Foreign Relations) MEMBERS:
Hillary Clinton
Rudy Giuliani
Barak Obama
Mitt Romney
John Edwards
Fred Thompson
Bill Richardson
John McCain

Dr. Ron Paul is NOT a member of the CFR.
The CFR has hijacked American foreign policy and they control both parties.
Their main goal is the destruction of American sovereignty and our constitution in order to form a "North American Union" with Canada and Mexico.
Once the elite masters of our government destroy the dollar, it will be easy to switch to the "Amero" and say goodbye to America as we know it.
Dr. Ron Paul is the ONLY anti-war and pro-liberty candidate running for president.
ronpaul2008.com

[jowand]

CFR(Council on Foreign Relations) MEMBERS:
Hillary Clinton
Rudy Giuliani
Barak Obama
Mitt Romney
John Edwards
Fred Thompson
Bill Richardson
John McCain

Dr. Ron Paul is NOT a member of the CFR.
The CFR has hijacked American foreign policy and they control both parties.
Their main goal is the destruction of American sovereignty and our constitution in order to form a "North American Union" with Canada and Mexico.
Once the elite masters of our government destroy the dollar, it will be easy to switch to the "Amero" and say goodbye to America as we know it.
Dr. Ron Paul is the ONLY anti-war and pro-liberty candidate running for president.
ronpaul2008.com

Posted by gunownerdan at 08:12 AM : Oct 29, 2007

Please return the SPAM to Chef Paul it''s overcooked again. Your boss would get a lot more votes if he can ever get his head screwed on correctly when it comes to Islamic terrorism.

[usayesterday]

Hillary Clinton is the female version of George W. Bush, (with far better speaking skills).

She is linked to many special interests, some of them similar to George W.

She has duped many Americans into believing that she is the answer to all of America''s current problems!

Oh how disappointed so many Americans will be if she becomes our next President!

[perception5]

Does anyone, Republican or Democratic seeking their party''''s nomination, have a platform beside''''s the Hillary Fear Mongering tactic? Anyone?


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Posted by ozilot at 07:57 AM : Oct 29, 2007

............Yep! Mitt Romney who balanced a $3billion deficit without raising taxes

Yep!, Mitt Romney who brought "private"health insurance to EVERY citizen of Massachuesetts without raising taxes.

Yep! Mitt Romney who have more cross-funtional experience than any candidate running from either party.

Mitt Romney will be the next president of the USA becuase American''s are ready for CHANGE.

And Change means anybody but those currently serving in Washington DC.....................

[usayesterday]

Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich for 2008!

Whooopeeee!

I''m tired of hearing about that pair!

Those two might as well carry signs saying:

"We were the kids who were beat up the most during our school years.... so please vote for us!"