NASA Court-Ordered To Search For UFO Docs

Space Agency To Check Its Archives For Info About A Mysterious 1965 Crash Incident

(AP)  NASA has agreed to search its archives once again for documents on a 1965 UFO incident in Pennsylvania, a step the space agency fought in federal court.

The government has refused to open its files about what, if anything, moved across the sky and crashed in the woods near Kecksburg, Pa., 40 miles southeast of Pittsburgh.

Traffic was tied up in the area as curiosity seekers drove to the area, only to be kept away from the crash site by soldiers.

The Air Force's explanation for the unidentified flying object: a meteor or meteors.

"They could not find anything," one Air Force memo stated after a late-night search on Dec. 9, 1965. Several NASA employees also were reported to have been at the scene.

Eyewitnesses said a flatbed truck drove away a large object shaped like an acorn and about the size of a Volkswagen bus. A mock-up based on the descriptions of local residents sits behind the Kecksburg Volunteer Fire Department.

UFO enthusiasts refused to let the matter die and journalist Leslie Kean of New York City sued NASA four years ago for information.

"This is about the public's right to know," Kean said. "We would be doing this lawsuit regardless of whether UFO groups were interested in it or not. It's a freedom of information issue."

The agency has turned over several stacks of documents which Kean says are not responsive to the request, an argument that U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan agreed with.

In March, Sullivan rejected NASA's request to throw the case out of court, resulting in negotiations that led to the agency promising last week that it will conduct a more comprehensive search.

Kean said Friday that she sued NASA rather than the Army because the space agency a decade ago released some relevant documents on the case.

[jetranger7]

Well by GOD, I wish somebody would give me these Alien Phone Numbers, so I can call them and have them come down here and pick-up these Corrupt Politicians down here, maybe they can Experiment on them, anything just get them off this Earth !!! Whats their Phone Number , I want to call them !!

[watcher269-2009]

Why can''t anyone uderstand? Those UFO pictures are with the Apollo 11 tapes - they just can''t find them!!! Now leave poor NASA alone!

[dovestar]

YOu know, these UFO''s just might come in handy. People are criticizing Algore for preaching about global warming and he flies around in private jets. Maybe one of those UFO''s will give him a lift...

And while they''re at it take Hillary with them.

[mcvett]

More than likely, the crash was just a NASA failure involving
dead astronauts that the US Government, at the time, was
too embarrassed to admit to the public or to the Soviets.

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[billykbillyk]

Back in 1965 my mother came into the house looking white and shacking with fear...she had said she thinks she just saw a UFO....of course we just all said "Right Mom"...some years later I was talking to a dad douwn the street from my parents and he also told me the same story... We live in Lancaster PA.....

[billykbillyk]

So where does it say you cant see a UFO and be a God fearing person. Not sure what the connection is....We all need to try to think out of the box and stop trying always to put someoneone down because they are non-believers or believers. So God could not have created another world in another Galaxy....he did creat the heaven and the earth.... The Bible was written for us on earth...coould there be a chance that maybe God has created others in the never ending space? Open your hearts and stop fearing GOD like we do.....

[mcvett]

MORE THAN LIKELY, THE CRASH WAS JUST A NASA FAILURE INVOLVING
DEAD ASTRONAUTS THAT THE US GOVERNMENT, AT THE TIME, WAS,
TOO EMBARRASSED TO ADMIT TO THE PUBLIC OR TO THE SOVIETS.

More logical than anything else on this thread.

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[myidoncbs]

The Sinner is back!

SinGinRick must have been a HUGE SINNER to make him feel it is necessary, or even advisable, to spend his time on these comment boards telling us all about his imaginary friend.

Does it make you feel "more saved", Rick, when you blather on and on about your imaginary lover?

Look up the word "witness" sometime, Rick. It most definitely does NOT mean "to blather on and on about being saved" and it definitely does NOT mean "to try to convert everyone to your way of thinking". To witness is to observe, without being involved. Later on, to witness came to mean "to provide reliable testimony based on what one has witnessed". What you "Christians" are doing is a far cry from what you were instructed to do.

For example, Jesus said you should pray silently, in secret. He said that those who pray loudly, in public, are hypocrites. That pretty much condemns ALL of the current batch of "Christians".

If you knew Jesus (who is dead, BTW, so who is this imaginary friend you''re playing with now?), then you would just ****. The ignorance you spread helps no one, least of all yourself. And you''re going to need a heap of help, buddy!

[myidoncbs]

dovestar, criticising Al Gore for "flying around in private jets" does NOT in any way provide a counter argument to the observation that the world is getting warmer and that human activities contribute to that warming and that we better do something about it soon, or we will really regret it.

Lacking any intelligent counter argument, you repug re/tards fall back on the old standard of trying to slime your opponent by innuendo. That simply adds another layer of proof that you are, in fact, wrong and you know it!

[myidoncbs]

Sinner Rick,

If Jesus is the "Lord or Lords", then that means there are OTHER Lords. Hmmm...

Sounds kind of like the Mormons! Except they believe that the ONE TRUE GOD is Elohim, and that He is the Father of Satan and Jesus and Jehovah. So that would make Jesus the baby child of the Lord of Lords, wouldn''t it?

Didn''t you say somewhere that you''d happily vote for Mutt Romney, the mormon? Maybe not.

In any case, I''m certain that the average "Christian" believes there is only ONE Lord. They''re so fanatical about it that they don''t like Jews, who don''t believe in Jesus (but they do believe in the same God, Jehovah), and they don''t like Muslims, who believe in Jesus and believe in the same one God, only problem is, they think his name is Allah (which means "The God"). Apparently, these tiny little differences in beliefs matter a great deal to you people. So, I''d be careful about using phrases like, "the Lord of Lords", if I were you.

[myidoncbs]

"Us Christians will never have to change our Truth around"

SinGin, you''re really on a roll today!

The "Christian" "truth" you refer to changes ALL THE TIME. It''s an ever-changing mess of bad translations and phoney interpretations by a priestly class who want to control you, mixed in with slimy politics and greed. The re/tards who did the translations couldn''t get right even VERY BASIC concepts, like "sin"! The word in the Bible that is always translated as "sin" actually means "to miss the mark", like in archery. All the sinners that you''re so worried about are just people with bad aim! Leave them alone!

[lloydbest1]

The Disclosure Project (www.disclosureproject.org) has a lot of fascinating stuff relating to UFO''s and some other paranormal stuff as well. If you can sift through the bias toward "they''re really out there and it''s being covered up" it all makes a fine and informative read. And, yes, there should be full disclosure.
For what my opinion is worth, UFOs are probably not extraterrestial. The physics behind star formation, planet building, "Goldilocks" zone placement and water availibility preclude life beyond the simple and unicellular on the overwhelming majority of our worlds. Expecting other planets to have the exact conditions necessary to encourage civilizations as curious as we about "what''s out there" is really shooting the moon. We may have company, but there isn''t an awful lot of it.

[myidoncbs]

My thoughts on UFOs:

I don''t know. I don''t think I''ve ever really seen a UFO, though I have seen things I couldn''t identify at the time. (And I have seen other things that defy the classical world view.)

This universe is UNBELIVABLY HUGE, so it seems unlikely to the point of absurdity that there is no other intelligent life out there. Though why they would want to come here is beyond me.

Furthermore, current thinking in the fields of physics and cosmology indicate that this universe is simply one among an infinite number of alternate universes. The odds of this being the ONLY world in the ONLY universe with "intelligent" life on it are just so low as to be unthinkable.

But, if it makes you feel "special", and if that special feeling lets you get to sleep at night, go ahead and believe whatever you like. Just don''t expect anyone else to share your narrow view of life.

[walt1944-2009]

I have seen some strange things in the night skies that didn''t behave like a meteor, so I firmly believe there are UFO''s and they must be intelligently controlled. The key word here is "intelligently" which leaves out the federal government!

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!

[anonymous010]

"The physics behind star formation, planet building, "Goldilocks" zone placement and water availibility preclude life beyond the simple and unicellular on the overwhelming majority of our worlds. Expecting other planets to have the exact conditions necessary to encourage civilizations as curious as we about "what''s out there" is really shooting the moon."
Posted by LloydBest1 at 10:56 AM : Oct 27, 2007

You make the assumption that all life must be carbon based and use liquid water as a catalyst. Considering the size and diversity of the universe, I say that''s an assumption we can''t rely on. There just simply isn''t enough evidence one way or another to make any kind of estimate as to how populated our universe is (considering that we have only one data point, us). Any attempt to do so would have an unbelievable amount of error associated with it.

[tnt1954]

never heard about this ''incident'' in pennsylvania.
was ''star trek'' filmed on location?

[tnt1954]

Space Cadets win again.

[wolf563]

The GOV. should be forced to show all information and materials found regaurding ALL U.F.O. INVESTIGATIONS .

[rafterman1]

I believe the most viable terrestrial explanation was that this UFO, described as acorn-shaped, was a failed Soviet Venus probe (also acorn-shaped) and crashed there. Thus, all the government secrecy in trying to recover it. Against this theory though is that the probe was supposedly on a trajectory nowhere near Pennsylvania at the time.

[stephengosson]

This playing the game of "keep-away" that NASA is doing just provokes the conspiracy theories!
It''s like when a squirming politician says, "no comment!", to charges that are leveled.
C''mon, NASA. You decided to stonewall a report about safety among airlines, and now this.
The Freedom of Information Act shall set you free.

[mcvett]

MORE THAN LIKELY, THE CRASH WAS JUST A NASA FAILURE INVOLVING

DEAD ASTRONAUTS THAT THE US GOVERNMENT, AT THE TIME, WAS

TOO EMBARRASSED TO ADMIT TO THE PUBLIC OR TO THE SOVIETS.

More logical than anything else on this thread.

.

[rafterman1]

===More logical than anything else on this thread.===

Not likely. For of all, there are no "missing" US astronauts - all present and accounted for in 1965. Plus, I''m sure families of these supposed dead astronauts would have noticed they weren''t around anymore. Secondly, I''m sure people in Florida would have noticed an unannounced launch. They are kind of hard to miss for those living around the Cape.

[flash2368a]

Well...I pretty much believe in the "Where there''s smoke there''s fire" way of thinking. Too much "smoke" for two long including obvious "ufos" in centuries old paintings for there not to be something to it. Anyone who gives the not possible viewpoint was not a biology student in 1965 when the "conditions for existence of life" did not manage to account for life thriving in boiling volcanic vents in the bottom of the ocean. I think there are a lot of people in the government who still believe the average person "cannot handle the truth". They are exactly the ones who should not be "handling the truth" and keeping it from us. We have a right to know.

[liberalme]

Oh great--now they''re looking into Bushs'' family tree!!!

[liberalme]

Aliens

[alphaa10-2009]

People tend to forget NASA is the political administration of a technical enterprise. Science, per se, remains a secondary consideration, at best.

NASA was sold to the public back in the Sputnik (1957) era as America''s answer to the Russians, and various "gaps", ranging from bombers to missiles.

The current imposture of NASA with regard to space shuttle safety is a case in point. A blue-ribbon scientific panel commissioned by congress following the Columbia reentry disaster presented NASA with a list of recommendations.

To date, however, NASA still has not addressed major concerns such as ice and foam debris. NASA has not developed a viable, in-flight repair kit for the shuttle''s vulnerable leading edge (carbon-on-carbon fiber).

In its July, 2006, launch of the first shuttle since Columbia, NASA claimed it had done all that it could. The shuttle and its crew were held secure and safe by NASA''s fervent hope nothing would go wrong.

That situation persists as NASA adopts low-profile, ad hoc adjustment of its politics to the fact of its technical inadequacy. And yes, there appears to be something of a cost-benefit decision, as well. After all, the remaining shuttles are expensive beasts, and all are due for retirement.

[kevzgrl]

NASA has agreed to search it''s archives for the documents - doesn''t mean they will turn anything they find over or make it public in any way. Just that they will look.....

[slipster01]

1965? Seems like another Kennedy/Johnson-era Democrat coverup.

[slipster01]

"MORE THAN LIKELY, THE CRASH WAS JUST A NASA FAILURE INVOLVING DEAD ASTRONAUTS THAT THE US GOVERNMENT, AT THE TIME, WAS TOO EMBARRASSED TO ADMIT TO THE PUBLIC OR TO THE SOVIETS.
More logical than anything else on this thread.
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Posted by MCVett at 12:18 PM : Oct 27, 2007"

Seig Heil Herr MCVet, for bringing to light another glaring DEMOCRAT (circa 1965) cover-up.

[Hybdiesel]

Hey JetRanger you want alien phone numbers,just call the white house, its full of aliens. They are strange as they can speak english, but hear none.

[dsproull]

This is great news! We all wondered at the time, what this was all about. I guess we will know very soon. could be we will see more of these in the near future!

[fibonacci_]

UFOs ooooo-weee-ooooo....oooo-weeeee-ooooooo (scary music)

loooool. What Bush is most responsible for is making us look like total morons in the international community. People laugh their a''s off at us having Bush as president. What group of people would choose a president who has no skill at communicating at an international level.

[toolmangler-2009]

If youse guyz find my Flying Saucer, I wants it back.

[tucano2]

NASA supposedly was set up to pursue scientific projects, including finding out what other life might exist in the univers, not subvert ''freedom of information'' action or be nothing but a totally ineffective poorly supervised agency who seemingly only purpose is to cover up its own miserable track record, often by maligning its own top scientists, who are not, unfortunately, NASA''s managers.

[Krazcarl]

I''ve always wondered if the government had any realistic proof. If I remember Clinton tried to get it with no luck. I wonder if this will be we can''t find anything or a little truth which is scary NASA wants our tax dollars and have given us nothing but promises for 40 years except some fairly decent pictures that didn''t improve my life a bit.

[okinup]

I hate to break it to yaz, but space flight is impossible. Once you get above the ionosphere anything halo roasts. Its like a microwave oven. Theres never been a space program. It was all made up. And its doubtful there''ll ever be one. At least not until we get far more technologically sophisticated. I''d say probably the year 4000. Somewhere around there.

[okinup]

If you actually tried to go into outer space in just a metal shell you''d pop like a piece''a popcorn.

[goldesprit]

Hopefully, with some success in this case, NASA and OTHERS (alphabet agencies, Space Command, Navy, Air Force, Huachuca, Belvoir, Fermilab,...etc., will realize that they need to start owning up to the reality of the UFO situation--even if this one turns out to be an old Soviet Capsule with a nuke in it.

[okinup]

They can''t even put missiles in outer space. Those ICBMs? They never leave the atmosphere. And electronic circuitry, even insulated, melts.

[okinup]

In fact, the possibility that there are UFOs is a higher probability than that of a space agency that actually goes to outer space.

[okinup]

Nope. The only thing outer spacey about NASA is their love affairs.

[okinup]

I heard about this one chick that crazy glues her vagggina to yer face.

[okinup]

Ya always see her walking around the control room wearing this long skirt with a wheel barrel.

[okinup]

And these two sneakers pop''n out, jerk''n.

[slipster01]

"If I remember Clinton tried to get it with no luck."

You are mistaken. Clinton DID get it, but not what he was being PAID to get (i.e. Monica)

"NASA wants our tax dollars and have given us nothing but promises for 40 years except some fairly decent pictures that didn''''t improve my life a bit.
Posted by crzmeat at 06:35 PM : Oct 27, 2007"

GROUND PROCESSING SCHEDULING SYSTEM
SEMICONDUCTOR CUBING
STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS
WINDOWS VISUAL NEWS READER
AIR QUALITY MONITOR
VIRTUAL REALITY
ENRICHED BABY FOOD
WATER PURIFICATION SYSTEM
SCRATCHRESISTANT LENSES
POOL PURIFICATION
RIBBED SWIMSUIT
GOLF BALL AERODYNAMICS
PORTABLE COOLERS/WARMERS
SPORTS TRAINING
ATHLETIC SHOES
MICROSPHERES
SOLAR ENERGY
WEATHER FORECASTING AID
FOREST MANAGEMENT
SENSORS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL
WIND MONITOR
TELEMETRY SYSTEMS
PLANT RESEARCH
FIRE RESISTANT MATERIAL
RADIATION INSULATION
DIGITAL IMAGING BREAST BIOPSY SYSTEM
BREAST CANCER DETECTION
LASER ANGIOPLASTY
ULTRASOUND SKIN DAMAGE ASSESSMENT
HUMAN TISSUE STIMULATOR
COOL SUIT
PROGRAMMABLE PACEMAKER
OCULAR SCREENING
AUTOMATED URINALYSIS
MEDICAL GAS ANALYZER
VOICECONTROLLED WHEELCHAIR
MAGNETIC LIQUIDS
WELDING SENSOR SYSTEM
MICROLASERS
MAGNETIC BEARING SYSTEM
ENGINE LUBRICANT
INTERACTIVE COMPUTER TRAINING
HIGHPRESSURE WATERSTRIPPING
ADVANCED WELDING TORCH
RADIATION HAZARD DETECTOR
EMERGENCY RESPONSE ROBOT
PERSONAL ALARM SYSTEM
EMERGENCY RESCUE CUTTERS
FIREMAN''S AIR TANKS
PERSONAL STORM WARNING SYSTEM

[slipster01]

"If I remember Clinton tried to get it with no luck."

You are mistaken. Clinton DID get it, but not what he was being PAID to get (i.e. Monica)

"NASA wants our tax dollars and have given us nothing but promises for 40 years except some fairly decent pictures that didn''''t improve my life a bit.
Posted by crzmeat at 06:35 PM : Oct 27, 2007"

GROUND PROCESSING SCHEDULING SYSTEM
SEMICONDUCTOR CUBING
STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS
WINDOWS VISUAL NEWS READER
AIR QUALITY MONITOR
VIRTUAL REALITY
ENRICHED BABY FOOD
WATER PURIFICATION SYSTEM
SCRATCHRESISTANT LENSES
POOL PURIFICATION
RIBBED SWIMSUIT
GOLF BALL AERODYNAMICS
PORTABLE COOLERS/WARMERS
SPORTS TRAINING
ATHLETIC SHOES
MICROSPHERES
SOLAR ENERGY
WEATHER FORECASTING AID
FOREST MANAGEMENT
SENSORS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL
WIND MONITOR
TELEMETRY SYSTEMS
PLANT RESEARCH
FIRE RESISTANT MATERIAL
RADIATION INSULATION
DIGITAL IMAGING BREAST BIOPSY SYSTEM
BREAST CANCER DETECTION
LASER ANGIOPLASTY
ULTRASOUND SKIN DAMAGE ASSESSMENT
HUMAN TISSUE STIMULATOR
COOL SUIT
PROGRAMMABLE PACEMAKER
OCULAR SCREENING
AUTOMATED URINALYSIS
MEDICAL GAS ANALYZER
VOICECONTROLLED WHEELCHAIR
MAGNETIC LIQUIDS
WELDING SENSOR SYSTEM
MICROLASERS
MAGNETIC BEARING SYSTEM
ENGINE LUBRICANT
INTERACTIVE COMPUTER TRAINING
HIGHPRESSURE WATERSTRIPPING
ADVANCED WELDING TORCH
RADIATION HAZARD DETECTOR
EMERGENCY RESPONSE ROBOT
PERSONAL ALARM SYSTEM
EMERGENCY RESCUE CUTTERS
FIREMAN''S AIR TANKS
PERSONAL STORM WARNING SYSTEM

[slipster01]

"If I remember Clinton tried to get it with no luck."

You are mistaken. Clinton DID get it, but not what he was being PAID to get (i.e. Monica)

"NASA wants our tax dollars and have given us nothing but promises for 40 years except some fairly decent pictures that didn''''t improve my life a bit.
Posted by crzmeat at 06:35 PM : Oct 27, 2007"

GROUND PROCESSING SCHEDULING SYSTEM
SEMICONDUCTOR CUBING
STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS
WINDOWS VISUAL NEWS READER
AIR QUALITY MONITOR
VIRTUAL REALITY
ENRICHED BABY FOOD
WATER PURIFICATION SYSTEM
SCRATCHRESISTANT LENSES
POOL PURIFICATION
RIBBED SWIMSUIT
GOLF BALL AERODYNAMICS
PORTABLE COOLERS/WARMERS
SPORTS TRAINING
ATHLETIC SHOES
MICROSPHERES
SOLAR ENERGY
WEATHER FORECASTING AID
FOREST MANAGEMENT
SENSORS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL
WIND MONITOR
TELEMETRY SYSTEMS
PLANT RESEARCH
FIRE RESISTANT MATERIAL
RADIATION INSULATION
DIGITAL IMAGING BREAST BIOPSY SYSTEM
BREAST CANCER DETECTION
LASER ANGIOPLASTY
ULTRASOUND SKIN DAMAGE ASSESSMENT
HUMAN TISSUE STIMULATOR
COOL SUIT
PROGRAMMABLE PACEMAKER
OCULAR SCREENING
AUTOMATED URINALYSIS
MEDICAL GAS ANALYZER
VOICECONTROLLED WHEELCHAIR
MAGNETIC LIQUIDS
WELDING SENSOR SYSTEM
MICROLASERS
MAGNETIC BEARING SYSTEM
ENGINE LUBRICANT
INTERACTIVE COMPUTER TRAINING
HIGHPRESSURE WATERSTRIPPING
ADVANCED WELDING TORCH
RADIATION HAZARD DETECTOR
EMERGENCY RESPONSE ROBOT
PERSONAL ALARM SYSTEM
EMERGENCY RESCUE CUTTERS
FIREMAN''S AIR TANKS
PERSONAL STORM WARNING SYSTEM

[goldesprit]

WE DO HAVE "A NEED TO KNOW".

There is to much black op Special Access Program MONEY sloshing around-- and that is a problem that must be dealt with.

NASA and OTHERS (alphabet agencies, Space Command, Navy, Air Force, Huachuca, Belvoir, Fermilab,...etc., will soon realize that they need to start owning up to the reality of the UFO situation--even if this one turns out to be an old Soviet Capsule with a nuke in it.

[vet_sk]

SlipSter01, since you grabbed some Clinton act over 10 years ago, I imagine that you support the almost trillion dollars we have spent in Iraq under false pretenses.

I hope the war criminal you voted into office ends up in a cold wet concrete cell with nothing but a shoelace. Spandau Prison would work - and they have enough openings for Cheney, Condi, Rummy, and the rest of the cabal.

[slipster01]

Own up to what? I''ve never understood why some people claim that the government has no right to keep anything classified or secret.

What have YOU done in your life you don''t want anyone else to know, because it''s too painful, too frightening, too repulsive, or none of their business?

OK, let''s say this. The governments knows aliens are real. They''ve been in contact with them for 40 years. The aliens have been telling the governments all this time that the Earth will be destroyed on 1 Jan 2007.

So, what do you do? Tell everyone, and watch the world writh in agony as the Human race tears itself apart over its impending doom, or let everyone go about their ordinary lives until ''pop'' we all die.

Me, I''d rather have the ''pop'', than watch the world kill itself.