Uproar Over Obama's Gospel Tour Continues

(AP)  Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama's campaign held a hurriedly put together conference call Thursday night with gay and lesbian leaders in South Carolina to discuss the candidate's gospel tour, which includes a singer who says homosexuality is a choice.

Obama campaign spokesman Kevin Griffis refused to talk about what was discussed on the call with Steve Hildebrand, Obama's early voting state strategist, and Joshua DuBois, who runs faith programs for the campaign.

Afterward, the South Carolina Gay and Lesbian Pride Movement decided to hold a vigil outside the Sunday concert in Columbia to protest gospel singer Donnie McClurkin, said Tony Snell, the group's past president.

Snell listened to the call and said ll he heard was talking points and the campaign wasn't budging on McClurkin.

"This guy has a reputation. He has a past. It's well known," Snell said. "You guys should have researched this out," Snell said of the Obama campaign.

Snell said the call ended with the 15 gay and lesbian leaders making a final appeal to Hildebrand and DuBois to talk to Obama. "Please ask him one more time to stop Donnie McClurkin's appearance at Sunday's event," Snell said.

Griffis said McClurkin won't be booted from the program.

"The Obama campaign is trying to bridge real divides and bring people together. Two things are certain: We will never be able to bridge those divides if we are unwilling to listen to voices we don't agree with, and we will never change anyone's mind if we refuse to talk to him," Griffs said in a statement.

Obama's campaign invited the Rev. Andy Sidden, a South Carolina pastor who is openly gay, to appear at the same concert. But Snell said that doesn't right the program.

McClurkin is a Grammy Award winner who performed at the Republican National Convention in 2004. He told AP Radio in an interview that September that he was "once involved with those desires and those thoughts," but God turned him away from them.

Obama has spoken out against homophobia, including in the black community. He supports civil unions for same-sex couples but not the right for gay marriage.

[hippychicky-2009]

16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness
God Bless you!
Posted by singinrick

Tell me is that what jesus did to the harlet at the well...did he teach, rebuke, correct...nope he showed her love and understanding...he accepted her as she was..
You keep on in your piety...its a sin...

There is no comparision to me and the harlet at the well the point is that you are the first to condemn those that don''t agree with your brand of christianity...

[hippychicky-2009]

-If you think Hitler was doing the "Lord''''s work" hippychicky, you are more blind than I thought. Hitler was evil, and he killed millions of God''''s chosen people, the Jews
Posted by singinrick

I didn''t say Hitler was doing God''s work..I said you reminded me of him. Thinking your taking up the cause for christianity, trying to "heal" us all from our wicked ways...trying to make the word safe from our homosexuality..
Your one step away from branding us with your pink triangles, and putting us into consentration camps...because God told you too...

This cause (the cause for equality, and tolerance) is near and dear to me because I am a lesbian....
but why is it such a pressing cause for you??
Was it singinrick or flamingrick, me thinks the lady doth protest to much........and thats not an insult just open that closet door and step out be true to yourself..

[hippychicky-2009]

Does anyone ever wonder why homosexuals are always in uproar against Bible believing Christians?
Posted by singinrick

I know..but I hate to be sterotypical and lump you all together..
It because the majority (you being a prime example) want to tell us how sinful we are, how wrong our love is..your the first to stand in line and judge..without cause..
Your the first to stand in our way of equal rights, and the freedoms that you enjoy..why is that Rick?

Keep talking and judging in the name of God, you remind me of someone else...

"I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews. I am doing the Lord''s work." Hitler

[simonsez40]

Church must be out......

Unfortunately I don''t want to spend my time arguing a mute point - today is family day and I''d much rather spend my time with my children and wife over sitting at a computer....

[sftodd]

Rick, how is it loving to compare me to a mass murderer simply because I am gay? Do you have a legitimate answer for your hateful tactic, or are you going to apologize for comparing me to a mass murderer based on my sexual orientation?

[sftodd]

We have just as much of a right (us Bible believing Christians) to speak out against the lifestyle as you do promoting it.
Deal with it.
Posted by singinrick at 07:27 PM : Oct 28, 2007

Show me one place in my posts where I have said that you should not be permitted to spew your hatred toward gay people? You can''t. But I will refrain from calling you a liar. I fully support your legal right to spew your hateful message out loud and often. I just think it''s morally wrong for you to do so, and I am worried that Jesus will not look kindly on you for it, Rick. His message was to "love one another." You are so filled with and consumed by hatred of gay people that you can''t get to the real message of Christ, which was to "love one another." Rick, you must first learn to love and accept yourself before you will be able to love your gay and lesbian brothers and sisters. I pray you will work on loving and accepting yourself as you are.

[simonsez40]

Twist and turn your bible to teach and preach hate - what only 40 years ago religion used their interpretations of the scriptures to discriminate against African Americans......

The bible isn''t a tool for intolerane - it''s a tool to show mankind to love one and accept one another. You have much to learn...and I challenge you to reseach beyond what you hear and read from the King James.

[simonsez40]

No your lack of research and understanding of the original Hebrew and Greek texts is lacking....janebenz

You follow the word of the Protestants of the 20th century.....where only YOUR INTERPRETATION is valid.....how comical - thousands of years of the bible being handed down....and only you have the right interpretations and ideas on how to be saved by Christ?

No doubt you make judgements on other''s souls as well.....just like singinrick you have ALL the answers based on your viewpoints of scriptures. No doubt we could read the same scripture and see two different lessons....how pompous and pious of the modern day ''religious riot'' to force their ideology and absolutism on those that disagree....

Comical..

[jankebenz]

There is absolutely no condemnation of homosexuality in the Hebrew Old Testament.

10. There is absolutely no condemnation of homosexuality in the Greek New Testament

Posted by simonsez40 at 06:15 PM : Oct 28, 2007


Your blatant lack of biblical knowledge is highly evident in your posts, evidence contrary to your ridicules assertions have been clearly manifested for thousands of years . your spouting and spewing is just self serving to justify your own agenda

[simonsez40]

The King James version was also a translation from Hebrew and Greek text - King James had text removed that didn''t support submission to the kind etc.

This is well documented fact - I''m have no doubts the scholars were the best - but the point is if King James included his bias in scripture - what other biases were TRANSLATED within the scriptures?

Many of the original text meanings from the Greek and Hebrew transmissions were altered depending on the political stance of the translators........

So you have PROOF King James, John Wycliffe, an Oxford professor who provided the first hand-written English language Bible manuscripts in the 1380''s AD, Thomas Linacre or John Colet (this list is various prior to King James translation) upheld the EXACT meanings, verbiage and translations as the original authors?

Most likely not...