Turkey: U.S. Won't Stop Iraq Invasion
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Thursday that U.S. objections would not stop Turkey from crossing into Iraq to eliminate Kurdish rebels. The Turkish military said it had killed more than 30 insurgents who were poised to launch an attack on the border.
President Abdullah Gul said Turkey is running out of patience with the Kurdish separatist attacks. A steady stream of U.S.-made Turkish fighter jets roared into the skies near the Iraqi border, loaded with bombs.
The Turkish military said it had spotted a "group of terrorists" near a military outpost in the province of Semdinli close to the border with Iraq on Tuesday and fired on them with tanks, artillery and other heavy weaponry. It said the group had been preparing for an attack.
In a statement posted on its Web site, the military said the troops kept firing on the group as they escaped toward the Iraqi territory. The report increased the official number of alleged rebels killed since Sunday to at least 64.
The Bush administration is urging Turkey not to launch an incursion that would destabilize Iraq's autonomous Kurdish north, the country's most stable region. But Erdogan said the U.S. desire to protect the north would not hinder Turkey's fight against the rebels from the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, who use mountain bases to rest, train and get supplies in relative safety before returning to Turkey to carry out attacks against government forces in the heavily Kurdish southeast.
"They (the Bush administration) might wish that we do not carry out a cross-border offensive, but we make the decision on what we have to do," Erdogan said during a visit to Romania. "We have taken necessary steps in this struggle so far, and now we are forced to take this step and we will take it."
He said that the U.S. should repay Turkish assistance for the invasion of Afghanistan with support for Turkey's struggle against the Kurdish rebels, who want autonomy in the southeast.
"Right now, as a strategic ally, the USA is in a position to support us. We have supported them in Afghanistan," he said.
The leader of Iraq's semi-autonomous Kurdish region, used as a base by the PKK, spoke recently to CBS News correspondent Elizabeth Palmer about the rapidly-building tension along the border with Turkey.
Massoud Barzani, seen at left, said there was no military solution to the decades-old conflict between the PKK and Turkey, and urged both sides to reach a political solution.
Barzani told Palmer that during the past three months, as Turkey stepped up its attacks on the rebels using artillery and airstrikes, "they haven't wounded any of the PKK fighters". The claim contradicted the Turkish military's purported count of 64 militants killed.
His comments revealed the deeply-rooted mistrust between Kurds and Turks that drives the simmering conflict in Kurdish Iraq. The stability of the region, which remains a bastion of relative peace and tranquility in Iraq, would be destroyed by an all-out battle between Turkish forces and the PKK. (Special Report)
Asked whether he would support U.S. military action to crackdown on the PKK, he again said it would bring no positive results. The border region is rugged and mountainous, and the militants know the area well.
"Even if all the U.S. Army goes in, they won't find one PKK guerilla," Barzani said.
An AP Television News cameraman saw two F-4 fighter jets flying low along the Iraqi border on an apparent reconnaissance mission, a day after warplanes reportedly pounded rebel positions along the border. Separately, at least five F-16 warplanes loaded with bombs were seen taking off from a base in the southeastern city of Diyarbakir, local reporters said. A batch of F-16s had took off from the same base earlier Thursday as well.
"We are totally determined to take all the necessary steps to end this threat," Gul said in Ankara before a visit by a delegation of high-level Iraqi officials.
Turkey is "expecting them to come with concrete proposals - otherwise, the visit will have no meaning," Foreign Minister Ali Babacan said.
The delegation is headed by Iraqi Defense Minister Abdul-Qader al-Obeidi and will include Minister of State for National Security Sherwan al-Waili, said Yassin Majid, an adviser to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
"The political choice will be the first solution to solve the crisis. The Iraqi government insists on dialogue and cooperation to solve the crisis," Majid said.
Turkey's top leadership has called for both an incursion and economic measures against northern Iraq if Turkey's demands are not met. The self-ruling Kurdish administration in Iraq's landlocked north relies heavily on Turkish investment and fuel imports.
Turkish troops have killed hundreds of Kurdish rebels since Jan. 1, the state-run Anatolia news agency said, citing military sources. It did not say how many Turkish soldiers have died, but about 30 troops have been killed this month alone.
On Sunday, a rebel ambush near the border killed 12 soldiers. Eight soldiers have been missing since then; the rebels say they are holding them hostage and have distributed photographs and video.
U.S., Turkish and Iraqi officials are working to free the hostages, Matthew Bryza, the U.S. deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, said at a meeting in Ankara of officials from Black Sea nations. He also said Washington has increased the level of cooperation in intelligence sharing with Turkey.
In other developments:
The chairman of a House watchdog committee, said Thursday that recent State Department missteps, including lax oversight of Blackwater USA and other security contractors, may have hurt U.S. efforts in Iraq. "We need to know whether the mistakes of the State Department have jeopardized any chance for political success in Iraq," Rep. Henry Waxman, a Democrat, told Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice at the start of a hearing. Rice made a brief opening statement in her second day of testimony in Congress. "The success of what civilians bring to the fight is absolutely crucial," Rice said.
A court on Thursday threw out the case against a U.S. soldier charged in the 2005 shooting of an Italian intelligence agent in Iraq, a killing that infuriated Italians and soured relations with Washington. The court agreed with the defense argument that Italy had no jurisdiction in the case of Spc. Mario Lozano, a member of the New York-based 69th Infantry Regiment on trial in absentia on charges of murder and attempted murder for the shooting of Nicola Calipari, hailed as a hero by Italians for his role in the rescue of a kidnapped Italian journalist.
Rep. Waxman also said Thursday that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has issued an order requiring his approval of any corruption investigations of himself or senior ministry officials. Waxman said the order essentially grants immunity to al-Maliki and his ministry at a time when fraud and abuse is rampant and hurting reconstruction efforts. "These are not unfounded allegations," Waxman said. "This is Nouri al-Maliki's edict that no one will be referred to court unless he approves it."
© 2009 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report. President Abdullah Gul said Turkey is running out of patience with the Kurdish separatist attacks. A steady stream of U.S.-made Turkish fighter jets roared into the skies near the Iraqi border, loaded with bombs.
The Turkish military said it had spotted a "group of terrorists" near a military outpost in the province of Semdinli close to the border with Iraq on Tuesday and fired on them with tanks, artillery and other heavy weaponry. It said the group had been preparing for an attack.
In a statement posted on its Web site, the military said the troops kept firing on the group as they escaped toward the Iraqi territory. The report increased the official number of alleged rebels killed since Sunday to at least 64.
The Bush administration is urging Turkey not to launch an incursion that would destabilize Iraq's autonomous Kurdish north, the country's most stable region. But Erdogan said the U.S. desire to protect the north would not hinder Turkey's fight against the rebels from the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, who use mountain bases to rest, train and get supplies in relative safety before returning to Turkey to carry out attacks against government forces in the heavily Kurdish southeast.
"They (the Bush administration) might wish that we do not carry out a cross-border offensive, but we make the decision on what we have to do," Erdogan said during a visit to Romania. "We have taken necessary steps in this struggle so far, and now we are forced to take this step and we will take it."
He said that the U.S. should repay Turkish assistance for the invasion of Afghanistan with support for Turkey's struggle against the Kurdish rebels, who want autonomy in the southeast.
"Right now, as a strategic ally, the USA is in a position to support us. We have supported them in Afghanistan," he said.
The leader of Iraq's semi-autonomous Kurdish region, used as a base by the PKK, spoke recently to CBS News correspondent Elizabeth Palmer about the rapidly-building tension along the border with Turkey.
(AP Photo/Yahya Ahmed)
Barzani told Palmer that during the past three months, as Turkey stepped up its attacks on the rebels using artillery and airstrikes, "they haven't wounded any of the PKK fighters". The claim contradicted the Turkish military's purported count of 64 militants killed.
"If Turkey comes up with a peaceful solution, and the PKK refuses it, we are ready to do anything against the PKK. But if Turkey is using the PKK as an excuse to fight with us, we are ready to defend ourselves," Barzani said.
Elizabeth Palmer writes on her interview with Massoud Barzani, the leader of Iraq's Kurds
Watch Palmer's Interview With BarzaniHis comments revealed the deeply-rooted mistrust between Kurds and Turks that drives the simmering conflict in Kurdish Iraq. The stability of the region, which remains a bastion of relative peace and tranquility in Iraq, would be destroyed by an all-out battle between Turkish forces and the PKK. (Special Report)
Asked whether he would support U.S. military action to crackdown on the PKK, he again said it would bring no positive results. The border region is rugged and mountainous, and the militants know the area well.
"Even if all the U.S. Army goes in, they won't find one PKK guerilla," Barzani said.
An AP Television News cameraman saw two F-4 fighter jets flying low along the Iraqi border on an apparent reconnaissance mission, a day after warplanes reportedly pounded rebel positions along the border. Separately, at least five F-16 warplanes loaded with bombs were seen taking off from a base in the southeastern city of Diyarbakir, local reporters said. A batch of F-16s had took off from the same base earlier Thursday as well.
"We are totally determined to take all the necessary steps to end this threat," Gul said in Ankara before a visit by a delegation of high-level Iraqi officials.
Turkey is "expecting them to come with concrete proposals - otherwise, the visit will have no meaning," Foreign Minister Ali Babacan said.
The delegation is headed by Iraqi Defense Minister Abdul-Qader al-Obeidi and will include Minister of State for National Security Sherwan al-Waili, said Yassin Majid, an adviser to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
"The political choice will be the first solution to solve the crisis. The Iraqi government insists on dialogue and cooperation to solve the crisis," Majid said.
Iraq has promised to shut down offices used by rebel bases. But Turkey wants Iraq and U.S. forces to destroy the bases and extradite the rebel leadership to Turkey.
Turkey's top leadership has called for both an incursion and economic measures against northern Iraq if Turkey's demands are not met. The self-ruling Kurdish administration in Iraq's landlocked north relies heavily on Turkish investment and fuel imports.
Turkish troops have killed hundreds of Kurdish rebels since Jan. 1, the state-run Anatolia news agency said, citing military sources. It did not say how many Turkish soldiers have died, but about 30 troops have been killed this month alone.
On Sunday, a rebel ambush near the border killed 12 soldiers. Eight soldiers have been missing since then; the rebels say they are holding them hostage and have distributed photographs and video.
U.S., Turkish and Iraqi officials are working to free the hostages, Matthew Bryza, the U.S. deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, said at a meeting in Ankara of officials from Black Sea nations. He also said Washington has increased the level of cooperation in intelligence sharing with Turkey.
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AND DON''T EVEN THINK IT j-whitman. I can hear your little beady eyballs clicking from word to word now, trying to figure out a way to spin what I''ve said.
He was smart enough to NOT want to irritate an ally at this juncture of another political issue, BUT OH - the Democrat in charge of the House of Representatives opens her BIG MOUTH to feel morally clean.
Well congrats Pelosi - you just endangered tens of thousands of Kurds, and effectively stopped ANY political way of stopping it.
This is what the Democrats do for us! And then they lay the blame at Bush''s feet.
Even the WASHINGTON POST agrees - THE most liberal newspaper in the world.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/18/AR2007
101801579.html
Where did Hillary, Obama, or Edwards serve? Oh, and while I''m asking, what have any of them ever run in terms of executive experience? NONE. And what foreign policy experience do they have? Obama has been on the Senate foreign relations debate committee for 2 years now and Hillary a few years also? How about legislative? Oh yes, they are vastly experienced there too, combined 18 years between them in the Senate (and some time hosting photo ops as first lady for Hil). These 3, the "top-tier" Dems are the LEAST experienced candidates to hold the office of President in the entire field, Dem or GOP? Either Richardson or Biden on the Dem side have far more experience and qualifications that the top 3, by FAR!! GOP side, McCain and Hunter are decorated veterans with sons in harm''s way in this fight! McCain has been in the Senate longer than the 3 of them combined, with extra! Giuliani ran the 3rd largest government in the US with stunning success; Romney was a governor and successful business exec who worked across the aisle...its amazing that these 3 are the top 3...they shouldn''t even be considered; there are far more qualified candidates running; having a good haircut, the right husband, or a book bestseller shouldn''t qualify you to run this nation.
You know, that country you love to hate along with your fellow jihadist apologists on these boards.
Posted by singinrick at 01:31 PM : Oct 26, 2007
Brave as in 5 Deferment Cheney and AWOL Bush.
By the way - What branch of service did you and your wife serve in ??
Posted by rerrorislam3 at 01:23 PM : Oct 26, 2007
In Turkey non Muslims are listed as Foreigners
http://www.christiansofiraq.com/turkeychris.html
Three killed in attack on Bible publisher
http://turkeynewz.blogspot.com/
Report: 3 Killed in Attack on Bible Publishing House in Turkey
http://americaninfidelthinks.blogspot.com/
Turkey bible publishers attacked, 3 dead
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=261909
Report: 3 Killed in Attack on Bible Publishing House in Turkey
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266681,00.html
Liberals scream:.."we don''t want to talk about the past"
NOW want to talk about Armenian genocide that occurred OVER 90 years ago.
Hypocrits..
It wasn''t Bush that wanted to pass an Armenian genocide resolution
and pissed off Turkey
Thank you, Nancy Pelosi.
Wow, that''''s something new.
What could he possibly have been? A Chaplain perhaps?
I could just hear him screaming and yelling while firing his gun...
"DIE ALL YOU NON-CHRISTIAN SCUM!"
Gee, it''''s interesting how all the religious fundamentalists of the world are the only group of people who always feel justified when they kill someone!
(a mental disorder indeed).
Posted by USAyesterday at 11:40 AM : Oct 26, 2007
Salvation Army !!