SAN DIEGO, Oct. 24, 2007

Evacuee Saw Home Burn On TV, Over And Over

Christie Williams' Kids Watched, Too; You Can Help Family

  • Play CBS Video Video Mom Loses Home To Wildfire

    Fighting back tears, mom Christie Williams speaks with Harry Smith, Julie Chen and Hannah Storm about her hope for the future, despite losing her home to a ravenous wildfire.

  • Christie Williams on <i><b>The Early Show</i></b> Wednesday.

    Christie Williams on The Early Show Wednesday.  (CBS/The Early Show)

  • Photo Essay Forced To Flee Fires

    Southern California wildfires force more than 250,000 people from their homes.

(CBS)  Christie Williams is just one of the many Southern Californians forced to evacuate their homes to avoid the raging wildfires.

But unlike some, who don't yet know the status of their homes, and others, whose homes escaped damage, Williams had the nightmare of actually watching her home burn down while watching TV coverage.

She told The Early Show Wednesday she saw video repeated several times. Her kids saw the video, too, though only once. They're 4, 2 and 1.

Williams spoke to The Early Show from outside San Diego's Qualcomm Stadium, which is being used as an evacuation center.

She vows to go back to her property, which she nicknamed Shangri-La, even if it's just to live there in a mobile home.

On her Web page, Williams wrote, "We have lost everything, (daughter) Lela is devastated by the loss of her toys and favorite blanket, (son) Charlie keeps asking for his wooden rocking horse his grandparents made him and (daughter) Piper wants her routine back and I would give anything to be able to go back and grab her baby video tapes, her first laugh, her first smiles, I will miss those tapes."

To see two interviews of Williams from The Early Show Wednesday, click here.

If you want to help the Williams family, click here to get to their Web page.

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by kelrenz October 26, 2007 11:55 AM EDT
Really? Is that what this country has come to? In a time of complete tragedy, where over 1,800 homes have been evacuated, people make posts about how this is going to effect their insurance? You are all really saying "yeah, yeah, people are homeless, but my insurance is going to go up". Complain to your insurance company, complain to your legislature, to whoever else can actually do something about it. Just don''t post things about "whoa is me, now my insurance rates are going to rise" when people have lost homes, heirlooms, pets, etc. It really is nauseating.
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by good2go2day October 25, 2007 8:46 PM EDT
SusanHelit wrote: Your insurance isn''''t going to go up and make you lose your house - that''''s a dumb scare tactic. Insurance is there for these losses, and will be there when you need it as well. That''''s what you pay for.

You are wrong - insurance companies raise rates to cover losses. Example, your car insurance rate usually goes up if you file a claim. File what the insurance companies feel are too many (maybe 1 maybe 2...depends on a formula) they CAN & WILL drop your insurance.
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by toldyouso21 October 25, 2007 6:30 PM EDT
SusanHelit at 11:57 PM : Oct 24, 2007

My how your position changes. a while ago, you posted that the insurance companies would all but jump for joy to pay what they should--now you allude to them being retailiatory but still want to pretend we are demonizing the homeowners--we are not--what we are pointing out is that we are TIRED of paying for the bad choices of others--over and over again, ad nauseum. What insurers should do--is blacklist any location for certain types of insurance--do it like medical and call it a pre-existing condition and do NOT cover that particular calamity. Say for instance--those who built on fault lines could no longer be insured through normal insurers for earthquakes and those who build in wildfire corridors or near hurricanes--should get the same treatment. They should have to purchase separate, special insurance to live in those areas. That way, if disaster strikes, only they and their like compatriots would suffer the domino effect of their choice and the rising rates. I see no reason why the rest of us should repeatedly pay for people choosing to live on high risk areas. It''s like a healthy person having to pay the price for a lifetime of health problems of a drug abuser. They could build and live where they like--but they should pay a separate cost for some choices.
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by cdegolier October 25, 2007 6:24 PM EDT
I just read the article about Dayna Czermak, a woman who has been through a lot worse, Previous wild fire, Northridge earthquake, lost her home to Katrina, had to flee because of Rita, and now will probably lose her home to fires and yet is not asking for a dime. I would love to send her money.
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by toldyouso21 October 25, 2007 6:20 PM EDT
Posted by cdegolier at 01:57 PM : Oct 25, 2007

On the other hand--as someone who was intimately involved in the ARC--please consider that when you send money to the Red Cross less than .50 of each dollar goes to the victims--the money is actually used to pay employees and for other services including padding the other side of the organization--the blood service division. that may sound very altruistic--but most who work for the Red Cross make substantial salaries (the CEO made over 800K ater 9/11) and much of the money never reaches those who need it. I know of cases where money was sent for particular victims in an area, and the money was rerouted to other Red Cross projects instead. (yes, they can ask for money for a hurricane and use it elsewhere) the average family got around 1200.00 for all of their losses including losing a home, food, shelter, possessions etc---even though MILLIONS were taken in. This also happened after 9/11---the government had to step in to get the ARC to actually give money to the victims'' families. I never give through the Red Cross--because I know exactly how they operate, the volunteers in the Red Cross are the real heros--the avg. paid Red Cross Worker seldom has much compassion in my experience--it is just a job and each tragedy and charity event--just another payday.
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by toldyouso21 October 25, 2007 6:11 PM EDT
The fact is, my insurance after the quake was cancelled by the insurance company even though my house did not suffer any real damage and I did not file a claim. When the state picked it up, I actually paid almost 900.00 LESS per year than when it was covered privately. My point about insurance is to be very careful and for those who do not live in California to realize that this WILL affect them also. Susan is defensive simply because she lives in California--but that does not change the facts--Insurance companies will do a lot to try to avoid paying--the government and other watchdog groups will have to police them like hawks--and when the payments are finally made--your and my rates will rise to compensate. That is fine--until you realize that the people who are compensated want to rebuild in the same areas as before. We don''t need an endless cycle of shortsighted, selfish people who imagine it is all about them. We all pay. What we should not have to do--is pay more than once for a home in the same location involved in a similar natural disaster. One time is a tragedy--2 or more times is just a very expensive and very bad, self serving habit.
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by cdegolier October 25, 2007 4:57 PM EDT
I guess what upsets me is this woman using national t.v. to ask for a hand out. The fires aren''t even out yet and all she can do is think about herself. I don''t remember any Katrina victim interviewed asking for money, they were just happy to be alive. I would not ever send you money directly, any donation I will make will go to the red cross to be doled out to other families who don''t have their own web page or even access to the internet. A lot of nerve.
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by jordan631 October 25, 2007 12:02 PM EDT
Brian Norwood - perhaps before embarrassing yourself on a national blog...you should do a little research on the inhabitants and history of Ramona. You would quickly learn that by no means is it a multi million dollar kind of town. Christie is my sister as well. She shops at garage sales. My other sister lived there too. She worked at Pizza Hut. They lost everything. EVERYTHING. Everything includes the artwork I made for them over the years. The Christmas ornaments my sisters had when they were babies. The tiny dresses my sister sewed for her first baby. One of the only pictures in existence of our grandmother. Among hundreds of other irreplaceable items. Rich or poor, these things are important to any human. Learn some humility, Brian, you should be ashamed.
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by juwboy October 25, 2007 8:47 AM EDT
Doesn''t anyone remember that, after the Loma Prieta and Northridge earthquakes, the major insurance companies refused to provide earthquake insurance in California any more.

Earthquake insurance was subsequently taken over by the state of California with much higher premiums and deductibles.
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by susanhelit October 25, 2007 2:59 AM EDT
Every year, we hear the same stories too - blizzards in Chigago, east coast, etc., a few dead. Maybe we shouldn''t have built there. Horrible tornados in the midwest - never should have moved there. A hurricane somewhere in Florida - the entire state should be abandoned - as well as all of Texas - the part that isn''t at risk from hurricanes is at risk for tornadoes. Anyplace that doesn''t have one of these - you guys can live. Until there''s an unusual rainfall, and a flood, and we can all say that since it''s flooded in that state before, you should have known.
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by susanhelit October 25, 2007 2:57 AM EDT
Yeah, demonize. A bunch of people lose houses, and because insurance companies threaten to raise their rates for being forced to do what they''ve been being paid all these years to do, you want to find a way to make the fire victims the bad guys. There''s a fire or so a year - but you do realize that San Diego county is about the size of the state of Rhode Island. How dumb would it be to blame Rhode Island for a megafire, because they have at least one fire in that state every year, so obviously we should never have built any houses there.


A ton of misinformation - the houses aren''t in forests, nor on some cliff for a great and dangerous view, nor are they the houses of the wealthy, nor are they in typical wildfire danger zones, nor is all of San Diego a wildfire danger zone. California is huge. Yeah, you hear about disasters here about as often as you hear about them on the east coast - because we''re about the size of the entire east coast. All you can say is that someone''s a dummy if they think that an earthquake risk, the occasional wildfire, is a reason to abandon major cities. I love the complaints though about money - California contributes a ton more in taxes than we use in services, disasters included. Like most blue states.
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by toldyouso21 October 25, 2007 12:05 AM EDT
Insurance is there for these losses, and will be there when you need it as well. That''''s what you pay for.
Posted by SusanHelit at 08:42 PM : Oct 24, 2007


I think you''d do well to read the article in the top story column about whether insurance rates will rise....
I think you better read the following story about Allstate and others. Allstate has declared they will not underwrite any new policies in California and are seeking to raise their rates on existing policies by 12%. THAT is for California, for the rest of us--the losses that result in this multibillion dollar payout will be spread around the rest of an insurance companies customers. it always is. Insurance companies are not actually there to pay out for disasters and as Katrina showed us--many tried to default or cancel policies and look for loopholes NOT to pay. Insurance companies are actually in business to make money. To use premium payments to invest and to use risk analysis to determine the least amount of risk so that payments from the insured can be exploited. I have worked for EF Hutton, Golden Rule, Lincoln, and Conseco--(corporate division) I can guarantee you that no payout is not accompanied by spreading the loss among the other insured and recouping those monies. You actually seem not know much about insurance. It is scary because it IS scary--and probable that this will have repercussions across the industry and into our own pockets.
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by susanhelit October 24, 2007 11:53 PM EDT
Hmmm - some people really don''t like hearing the truth. Harder to demonize a bunch of fire victims when you can''t make it their fault? Judging from the anger here, some of you were way too invested in blaming Californians - envious much?
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by susanhelit October 24, 2007 11:50 PM EDT
I''ve lived in San Diego. I know what the landscape looks like, I know that we don''t have forests, and I know that we don''t lose houses to wildfires every year - nor to earthquakes - unlike some fools here. And I know that the houses being burned are not mansions, nor close. If some people don''t like knowing the facts, and would rather blame us for a natural disaster - so very sorry - I don''t plan to be quiet about it. Dummies who claim a PhD, but can''t read a dictionary won''t be stopping me either.

Oooops - make that people who prefer ignorance and have a shocking lack of compassion, empathy or humanity.

Nope. You don''t have the facts, and facts are what is important. Show me a house burned down that was burned before, rebuilt, burned again, etc. - is in a clear fire hazard zone, and I''m not concerned. But that''s not the case here. Don''t like the facts - that''s not my problem.


As always - can''t attack the facts, attack the person. Thanks for proving me right yet again. If you had facts on your side, you''d be posting them, not foolishly talking about my mommy as if that''s supposed to make me run off.
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by susanhelit October 24, 2007 11:42 PM EDT
Fires occur every year. Fires like this one - no. The houses being destroyed have been there for many decades. This is not unsafe building going on, like those houses built on Mississippi flood plains, this is something very different.

And every place has some natural disaser that can happen. We get earthquakes (and maybe you don''t realize how large California is - just because you hear a lot about California disasters doesn''t mean much is happening in any one area - not like this is some little state like Pennsylvania or Iowa or whatever - it''s huge) - but the news exaggerates those - they''re mostly little shakers, and we''re built for it. Would you not build anywhere on the east coast because they get hurricanes? Yeah, right. And fires - brush fires - no biggie, not that large.


What this is - it''s a change in the environment, and that means it''s not possible to just predict it and not build there. Hotter and dryer weather. Changes in the desert weather creating a Santa Ana wind that lasted many times as long as normal, stronger than normal. Fires - normal. These - not normal.


Your insurance isn''t going to go up and make you lose your house - that''s a dumb scare tactic. Insurance is there for these losses, and will be there when you need it as well. That''s what you pay for.
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by toldyouso21 October 24, 2007 11:13 PM EDT
How many people who are no where near California, will lose their homes now--because when their insurance goes up to pay for this latest disaster, they can no longer afford the escrow payments and thus default on the loans? The fact is, we are all connected whether we like it or not--and though some want to act like compassion at a time like this is the only legitimate response--the fact is--when this mess impacts people who live far away--and when those in this mess, go back for another serving that can impact far away people yet again--THAT is irresponsible. I have been in a fire and have given to others who have been in fires, those who want to go back and rebuild in hazardous areas are not only spitting on the rest of America--they are also asserting that their needs, want and desires somehow trump the rest of ours---and yes...these same people would expect the "government" and insurance companies to bail them out again--and again and again...while most of us foot that bill.
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by toldyouso21 October 24, 2007 11:05 PM EDT
If fires can occur anywhere, if nearly every person in the world is at risk of some natural disaster, if it''''s shown that these houses were not built somewhere risky, but in good standard, safe locations - then turn the conversation somewhere else rather than admit your errors.

Posted by SusanHelit at 07:11 PM : Oct 24, 2007

although fires can and do occur everywhere--wildfires do not. They require lots of vegetation, very strong wind, lots of trees, inadequate moisture...etc. Prarie fires or other low burning fires burn differently from those with a lot of trees, dry timber, wind corridors, etc --and both of these fires burn differently than those from buildings. With the exception of the Chicago fire in the late 1800s, you would be hard pressed to find any fires that burned out of control in any area besides California and now, the Southeast. Further, you would be very hard pressed to find even one season where this known disaster did not occur in California. YOu can set your clock by it. I used to live in LA and San Diego--esp in LA, the Santa Ana winds and dark, smoggy skies were an everyday occurence in the fall. The real problem is not the fire--but the gamble people take in where it will strike--add arson into the mix and it becomes a real cr@p shoot.
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by toldyouso21 October 24, 2007 10:57 PM EDT
The real question is--how much is your or my insurance rates going to go up to foot this bill? Because the cost/loss is ALWAYS passed on to the consumer and always on to people who usually never file claims.

That being said--I will not donate to this woman or anyone else in the fire--because like it or not--when I get my new insurance rates--I am "donating" when I pay that new bill.

I do believe people that build or live in areas prone to certain natural disasters (California has these fires every year, the threat of earthquakes, mudslides and sink holes is yearly there also, Florida and other coastal areas have the threat of hurricanes and floods---these exceptional disasters (not regular fire but widespread wild fires) should require additional premiums, and if they are not covered--they lose. Their choice. Just like living in risky places is a choice. What is not a choice, is the fact that my premiums may double or triple to pay for the money the ins. companies have to pay out--and people like me get the shaft for nothing---there is no free ride--a lot of Americans need to stop acting like they are entitled to one--or barring that, that they should get to ride on the rest of our backs.
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by TennMom1 October 24, 2007 10:33 PM EDT
Wow, I cannot believe many of the comments I am reading here! Each time I lose faith in my fellow man, each time I think this country of ours has become a cesspool of envy, greed, spite and indifference, I am proven correct. I won''t launch into a lecture but, to those of you who have decided you are fit to judge people who have lost everything, I have this to say: I hope it doesn''t take your losing every earthly possession through fire, flood, tornado, hurricane, mudslide, etc. for you to realize just how hateful and lacking of compassion you truly are.
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by trenticus-2009 October 24, 2007 10:13 PM EDT
never saw a wild fire in the artic or antartic??? Hmmm. Not every place will burn...
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