PELHAM, N.H., Oct. 23, 2007
McCain: Bin Laden Tape Proves Successes
GOP Hopeful Says New Message From Al Qaeda Leader Shows U.S. Efforts In Iraq Are Succeeding
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Presidential hopeful Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., greets people at the Hillside Country Store and Deli in Pelham, N.H. on Monday Oct. 22, 2007. (AP)
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"Basically he encouraged the extreme elements - al Qaeda in Iraq particularly in the Sunni areas - to join together and be more effective in bringing terrorism and murder and suicide bombings to Iraq and to Anbar province," McCain said. "It's a clear sign that we are succeeding in Iraq because people got very tired of al Qaeda taking their young women, killing their young women, killing their people, and acting in the most brutal fashion that they are."
In the audiotape played Monday on Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden chastises some of his followers for lagging behind and making mistakes in Iraq, and for putting their personal allegiances ahead of their opposition to American forces.
CBS News White House correspondent Peter Maer reports that the White House on Tuesday said U.S. intelligence believes the tape "is authentic." Referring to the taped message calling for Iraqi insurgents to unite, spokeswoman Dana Perino said, "We would not be surprised to hear that message."
"It sounds like words from a leader, an al Qaeda terrorist, trying to capture some lost ground," Perino added. She also told reporters the U.S. strategy has brought some success but she added, "There's a long way to go." Perino described al Qaeda as "an enemy of humanity."
Stopping to meet and greet voters at a country store, McCain commented in response to an undecided voter's question about his strategy for Iraq - whether he would follow President Bush's path and stay in the war, or reduce the number of U.S. troops there.
McCain said he is the only Republican who criticized the conduct of the war under former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, and that he believes the troop escalation over the past year has been effective.
"I believe if we set a date for a withdrawal we will be back," he said.
McCain also spoke to Denise Gionet of Pelham, whose son, Army Sgt. Daniel Gionet, was killed in Iraq in June 2006. Gionet told McCain that some in the military community are appalled that missing soldiers are being designated "duty stations whereabouts unknown."
"The category should be MIA. POW/MIA," replied McCain, himself a former Vietnam POW. "I do not understand and we have written letters and we are in communication. That needs to be fixed."
McCain began a three-day campaign bus trip across New Hampshire on Monday. He was expected to file candidacy papers for the New Hampshire presidential primary on Tuesday in Concord.
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AQ has alienated the Sunnis, that doesn''t mean that the U.S. policy is successful, only that AQ has blown it.
Posted by frankson2
Why don''t you stick your head in a toilet and drown. Sorta like waterboarding. You hillbilly. Are you calling our troops murderers. That''s what I like about the lefties, haven''t the guts to stand up for their country. No how to denigrate it, though. No problem doing that.
Pssst. The surge worked. Doesn''t that just make you wanna go home and cry to Ma? Just like the 11% Congress only interested in power.
Posted by mudrose
I agree with you. Dems are a bunch of hateful blow hards, I really feel sorry for them.
Posted by mudrose at 11:35 AM : Oct 23, 2007
Pssst ! That''s why Bush invaded Iraq - POWER !
The surge is a tactic - the stategy failed !
I always think it''s ridiculous to hear conservatives blaming Clinton for not doing enough to stop Bin Laden before 911(when they weren''t interested in doing more themselves). At the same time, it''s ridiculous to hear you talk about how we wouldn''t have to deal with him if Clinton were still President.
Bin Laden should not be a political football for either side; his continuing dog and donkey show is not something for any American to crow about or use for political one 1 ups manship.
We should put the petty revisionist history aside and come together as a nation and develop a new and more rational plan for confronting the threat posed by his organization.
To those of you who believe he poses no threat, is dead, or whatever, your participation won''t be required. To those of you that think we can stay the course in Iraq, antagonize Muslims worldwide, and be effective against terror, you don''t need to participate either.
A good starting point for serious minded people would be the Iraq Study Group Report, the Marines call for redeployment to Afghanistan, and an alliance with the democratic forces of Benazir Bhutto in Pakastan.
It would also be helpful for Congress to reform the Intelligence Identities Act so that the next time a government official leaks the name of a CIA agent they will be hung by the toes and shot.
Posted by realpatriot1 at 01:14 PM : Oct 23, 2007
So you get to decide who understands....I like that....let me know when you win.
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Now this is one hel1 of a spin I didn''t think it was possible to spin it this far but like I said before these guys will spin and spin. Sounds like a bad pornography movie.
Spin and spin bend over America he knows you like it.
Pssst ! That''''s why Bush invaded Iraq - POWER !
The surge is a tactic - the stategy failed !
Posted by IOWEIGN
Well, then if power is all Bush ever wanted, according to you it''s all in the Congresses hand, why don''t they just take that power away? Sorry, the tactic worked because the strategy worked.
Posted by realpatriot1 at 01:14 PM : Oct 23, 2007
Truly, I wish this country were capable of the kind of dialogue you are talking about. However, the fact remains that if the Democrats had had the White House for the last 8 years and bin Laden were still releasing tapes, republicans would be having a hissy fit all over the place and they''d be assured total victory in 2008 based on the mere fact that bin Laden had not been captured. If you think about it, you know this is true. This country is not capable of rational discourse, and those who attempt it, are automatically irrelevant.
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The U.S. military says it has dealt devastating and potentially irreversible blows to Al Qaeda in Iraq in recent months, leading some generals to advocate a declaration of victory over the group, which the Bush administration has long described as the most lethal U.S. adversary in Iraq, the Washington Post reported Monday.
Al-Qaeda In Iraq Reported Crippled
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Victory could actually be achieve if the Iraqi people would come to realize that each other (Sunnis/Shiites) nor the US is the aggressor, but rather Al Qaeda and the fundamentals
...But the Bush administration is far too naive and ineffective to pull that kind of stunt
Sounds to me like Laden''s beginning to get desperate. Keep at''m Prez.
Posted by frankson2
Imagine what we could do as a country if the entire country backed the President like they did in WW II. What''s pathetic is not the war being fought in Afghanistan and Iraq, but the war fought in the country over lets lose the war.
Posted by Hwy71So
Very desperate. I am sensing that his days are numbered. I think he''s sensing it too. Why Muslims turn against Muslims, not a good thing. It''s about time the Iraqis realized that these nowhere men are just killing for the sake of killing. There''s no rhyme no reason, just out and out murder. Someone, somewhere in Iraq, finally came to his senses. Bin Laden''s days a numbered.
Posted by Oscarez
Bin Laden says it form him. And Iran has been smuggling IEDs into Iraq. They have been supplying the ****** with weapons and also the Sunnis. Playing all sides against the middle. Iran isn''t gonna get a free hand now. Just brace yourself. The winds of fate are blowing and they are blowing against Iran.
the Iraqi war is legal, demonic-rat hero oscar, emmy, nobel prize winning al bore says so,,,
it actually never ended since it only stopped by the signing of a ceasefire,,, just like the korean war,,,
the resumption of hostilities was only a matter of time since iraq broke the ceasefire agreement,,,
blame saddam for iraq,,, Even clintoon and the dems wanted the resumption of hostilities back in 1998,,,
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq''''s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
Moreover, no international law can prevent the United States from taking actions to protect its vital interests, when it is manifestly clear that there is a choice to be made between law and survival. I believe, however, that such a choice is not presented in the case of Iraq. Indeed, should we decide to proceed, that action can be justified within the framework of international law rather than outside it. In fact, though a new UN resolution may be helpful in building international consensus, the existing resolutions from 1991 are sufficient from a legal standpoint. - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html
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Posted by CitizenUSA
Yeah we know, Bush and Osama best of friends; 9/11 and Building 7 a conspiracy; every Easter, Jesus Christ''s remains are found; the icecaps are melting; etc, etc, etc. Blah, blah, blah.
obama disrespects usa flag
Obama: No Hand on Heart for National Anthem
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Purported new bin Laden audio airs
"I advise myself and the Islamic nation not to follow individuals and countries," he said. "Everything should be seen in the light of Islam."
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/10/22/bin.laden.tape/?iref=mpstoryview
Bin Laden urges Iraq insurgents to unite
"The interest of the Islamic nation surpasses that of a group ... the interest of the (Islamic) nation is more important than that of a state," said the speaker who sounded like the leader of al Qaeda.
"The strength of faith is in the strength of the bond between Muslims and not that of a tribe, nationalism or an organization."
http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2007-10-22T184129Z_01_L22513919_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-IRAQ-BINLADEN-COL.XML
Bin Laden urges Iraq rebel unity
"The interest of the Islamic nation surpasses that of a group ... the interest of the (Islamic) nation is more important than that of a state," said a voice which sounded like the al Qaeda leader''s in the tape
"I advise ... our brothers, particularly those in al Qaeda wherever they may be, to avoid fanatically following a person or a group," he said. "The strength of faith is in the strength of the bond between Muslims and not that of a tribe, nationalism or an organization."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/22/AR2007102200951.html
Winning one round would be catching Bin Laden and stringing him up, but then that would offend Bush''s Saudi buddies.
Yeah we know, Bush and Osama best of friends; 9/11 and Building 7 a conspiracy; every Easter, Jesus Christ''''s remains are found; the icecaps are melting; etc, etc, etc. Blah, blah, blah.
nope, that was bubba klintoon,,, attack after attack he did nothing but repeat the same tired old speech,,,
well i guess he hooked up with moanica and shared a cigar,,,
After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
http://usinfo.state.gov/is/international_security/terrorism/uss_cole.html
well i guess he hooked up with moanica and shared a cigar,,,
After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
http://usinfo.state.gov/is/internation
al_security/terrorism/uss_cole.html
Posted by terrorislam2
Oh, yeah, I remember that speech. "I Never Had S/EX with That Woman!
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Uh, last time I checked, Ron Paul was in bed with the republican party, which, in case you haven''t noticed, has been hijacked by a bunch of lying crooks and lunatics. Everything that is uttered out of a republican politician''s mouth is a lie. They stand for exactly NOT what they say. Their campaigns are a fraud committed on the American people and those stupid enough to vote for them. I question Ron Paul''s judgment in voluntarily associating with such a corrupt party.
Sounds to me like Laden''''s beginning to get desperate. Keep at''''m Prez.
Posted by Hwy71So at 02:46 PM : Oct 23, 2007
"I don''t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don''t care. It''s not that important. It''s not our priority." George Bush - Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002
I also remember him promising to punish anyone who either leaked Plame''s name or failed to cooperate with the investigation(before he pardoned Libby the liar).
One doesn''t excuse the other.
The fact that we''re spending at least a trillion dollars in Iraq and thousands of lives while Bin Laden is free to build his network and even put out press releases is glaring proof of what a total failure Iraq is. Talk about trying to make lemonade out of a bunch of lemons. McCain is nuts.
Oh good Lord . . . Yes, we know, White is Black, and Black is White, Bill Clinton was evil and immoral, Bob Jones was a model for racial tolerance, True is False, Saddam flew his plane into the World Trade Center, and so it goes.
Do these people honestly think that no one is paying attention?
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by mudrose-2009
October 24, 2007 9:24 AM PDT
- Aside from 72 Virgins, how does bin laden rally his disposable army? Seems like his talking points aren''t gaining any momentum. Must be the disposable army needs to wait a few years so the harem can proved more jhadies for the cause. Get busy Osama.
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