TEHRAN, Iran, Oct. 20, 2007
Iran: We Can Fire 11,000 Missiles A Minute
Saber Rattling From Military Commander Promises A Quick Response To Any Attack
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The U.S. And Iran
Key events in once friendly, now contentious relationship between Washington and Tehran.
Gen. Mahmoud Chaharbaghi, the missile commander of the Guards, said Iran has identified all enemy positions and was prepared to respond in less than a minute to any possible attack.
"Enemy bases and positions have been identified. ... The Guards ground force will fire 11,000 rockets into identified enemy positions within the first minute of any aggression against the Iranian territory," the television quoted Chaharbaghi as saying.
Chaharbaghi did not specifically identify the bases or the enemy and did not refer to arch foes Israel or the United States by name. But the U.S. has 40,000 troops on various U.S. bases in other Persian Gulf countries and 20,000 in Mideast waters. Another 160,000 U.S. troops are in neighboring Iraq and about 25,000 are in another one of Iran's neighbors, Afghanistan.
Iran's semiofficial Fars news agency also quoted Chaharbaghi as saying that Iran's radar-avoiding rockets cover the entire Persian Gulf and the entire Iran-Iraq border. Both on state-run TV and in Fars, he only used the word rocket, not missile. A rocket is normally an unguided weapon whereas missiles usually have guidance systems.
Chaharbaghi was quoted by Fars as saying that rockets with a range of 155 miles will be delivered to the Guards ground force soon. He didn't elaborate.
Iran has periodically raised alarms over the possibility of war, particularly when the West brings up talk of sanctions over Tehran's rejection of a U.N. Security Council demand that it halt uranium enrichment.
Tensions are high between Washington and Tehran over U.S. accusations that Iran is secretly trying to develop nuclear weapons and helping Shiite militias in Iraq that target U.S. troops. Iran denies the claims.
Washington has said it is addressing the Iran situation diplomatically, rather than militarily, but U.S. officials also say that all options are open.
Last month, a top Iranian air force general said Iran has drawn up contingency plans to bomb Israel should the Jewish state attack Iran. He made the comments days after French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said that the international community should prepare for the possibility of war in the event Iran obtains atomic weapons, although he later stressed the focus is still on diplomatic pressures.
Iran on Thursday denounced a warning by U.S. President George W. Bush that the Iran's nuclear activities could lead to World War III, saying the statement was warlike rhetoric geared at diverting U.S. attention from White House failures in Iraq.
The White House said Bush was simply making "a rhetorical point" when he suggested that if Iran could make nuclear weapons, it could lead to World War III.
Another top Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander warned last month that U.S. bases around Iran would be legitimate targets.
"Today, the United States is within Iran's sight and all around our country, but it doesn't mean we have been encircled. They are encircled themselves and are within our range," Gen. Mohammed Hasan Kousehchi told IRNA in September.
Last month, Iran showed off its military might during a parade that included torpedoes, surveillance drones and what Iran called its new domestically manufactured warplanes.
Iran also has upgraded its Shahab-3 missile to range of about 1,250 miles, capable of reaching Israel and carrying a nuclear warhead.
But last month, Adm. William Fallon, the top U.S. military commander in the Middle East, said he believes Iran is not as strong as it portrays itself. "Not militarily, economically or politically," he said.
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See all 313 CommentsThe Iranians appear desperate to put together some capability to deter US agression.
But there really isn''t much they can do.
America has the capability to wipe out all life in Iran in a matter of seconds using just one nuclear sub. We have shown that we will use nukes - because we already have - on Japan. Further we have shown that we can rationalize the murder of hundreds of thousands and perhaps even millions.
They should try a differnt approach.
It may be though that we will invade them no matter what they do.
After all, we evidently plan to rule the Middle East and control the oil - whatever the cost.
-Bernard Kouchner, what a ***! Is his mission of sh*t-stirring ending soon? Say this idiot was at the UNHCR (United-Nations High Commission for Refugees), what an idiot! Actually he upset so many at the United Nations and never been renewed for his petty hitlerian personality.
They should try a differnt approach.
It may be though that we will invade them no matter what they do.
After all, we evidently plan to rule the Middle East and control the oil - whatever the cost.
Posted by CBS_Oliver at 11:58 AM : Oct 20, 2007
- Isn''t sick? And you want them to give up their defense? This is sick!
why did WTC7 fall at free fall speeds so neatly into it''s own footprint?
why has the NIST refused to put out it''s final report on WTC7?
here''s why -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwSc7NPn8Ok
how did the steel frame structures of WTC 1 & 2 disintegrate at free fall speeds (exploding outward in a pyroclastic wave of pulverized concrete) if we are to believe the pancake theory ? why isn%u2019t the core standing?
watch the footage at about 3 minutes into this clip -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmmTtb7X9j8
how could the Pentagon (the most technologically advanced and most heavily defended building in the world) allow a relatively slow moving passenger jet to breach it''s defense systems without getting a shot off?
why won''t the FBI release the security tapes from the Sheraton across the street so we can all see what really hit the Pentagon?
what really hit the Pentagon? where is the plane? look for yourself!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flcqJrtHz3w
works for me!
Go to any foundry and have them heat a piece of steel to 1800 deg F. then grab that steel with a heavy set of tongs and see how easily it bends. I do it for a living every day, it will bend so easy that a ten year old child could bend it in a circle (with good tongs). You keep believing the cra_p about demolition and you will really get a surprise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=flcqJrtHz3w
Posted by king77shaw at 03:26 PM : Oct 20, 2007
Find the planes that hit WTC 1 & 2 and their is documentation (videos) of it happening. as for WTC 7, the first two towers collapse caused a underground blast that sheared the foundation of 7 so it had nearly nothing to stand on.
Gimme a break, you ''talk'' as if you have a brain, use it.....
Toolmangler,
Re: "Hey!!!! Thats very good. We bomb Iran, then they wipe out the ME, then we finish bombing them backk to the ''''stoneage''''...
works for me!"
So you support the unjustifiable mass-murder of millions of innocent people, do you? Is this part of your "Christian" ethic?
To those that think that the U.S. can just drop a nuclear warhead wherever and whenever they choose, you seem to be forgetting about the likely response to a terrorist act of this nature, from places like China and Russia, unless you are suicidal.
Pull your head out.
there''s a BIG difference between steel bending and huge still beams being ejected hundreds of feet from the Twin Towers ... if steel melted and the buildings indeed collapsed we would NOT have seen pulverized concrete flowing all over lower Manhattan - we would NOT have seen such a fast and symetrical collapse - and we would NOT have had HUNDREDS of reports of secondary explosions throughout both towers and WTC7 (some even before any planes had hit) - look at these photos:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc1nenw.html
collapse or explosive energy ?
fires hot enough to melt 4" steel beams in WTC7? - think again, lots of smoke and very LITTLE fire - watch here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwSc7NPn8Ok
why does Silverstein admit WTC7 was brought down? why does the NIST refuse to release it''s final report on WTC7?
let go of your myth & DEMAND THE TRUTH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flcqJrtHz3w
Tensions are high between Washington and Tehran over U.S. accusations that Iran is secretly trying to develop nuclear weapons and helping Shiite militias in Iraq that target U.S. troops. Iran denies the claims."
Iran is simply trying to do a snow job on the world until they get their nooks up and ready. But once they do, Al Qaeda will rise up from hiding, overthrow the current regiem then it''s everybody for themselves because these kooks really think they control God.
Re: %u201CGo to any foundry and have them heat a piece of steel to 1800 deg F. then grab that steel with a heavy set of tongs and see how easily it bends. I do it for a living every day, it will bend so easy that a ten year old child could bend it in a circle (with good tongs). You keep believing the cra_p about demolition and you will really get a surprise.%u201D
a. There was no mechanism for the WTC to reach 1800F, and nobody has even claimed that this occurred, to my knowledge.
b. As you know, or should know, buildings are routinely designed with a significant "factor of safety", which is several times the anticipated design load.
c. WTC 1 and 2 were DESIGNED to withstand a direct impact from a fully loaded jet, comparable in size to the ones that crashed into the towers.
d. Structures that have one of four sides significantly damaged, such as WTC #7, fall OVER, not straight down, at near free-fall velocity, pulverized into a fine powder. There was no apparent mechanism for this to occur. Try that with your tongs.
My 1st cousin works in the Pentagon and he told me how you didn''t see the plane but for a second or two before the impact. It came in at over 500 mph at tree top level, it would have been visible for about 1/2 second from the time you could see it till it hit the bldg.
And what about the witnesses who saw the plane hit? And if it wasn''t a passenger plane, where did the missing flight go?
This says it best on how the whole thing is just dumb:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html
feely, if you are the same one I have disagreed with for a long time now, then you know when I am merely being facetious and sarcastic. So ''you'' pull it out.
Toolmangler,
Re: "My 1st cousin works in the Pentagon and he told me how you didn''t see the plane but for a second or two before the impact. It came in at over 500 mph at tree top level, it would have been visible for about 1/2 second from the time you could see it till it hit the bldg."
Look at the hole. It was not at "tree-top" level. It was barely off of the lawn, yet did not touch the lawn, supposedly accomplished by a man who could not even operate a small, propeller driven aircraft "at all", according to his flight instructors.
So your cousin was in a position to "see" the "plane" coming, yet was able to get out of the way in 1/2 second, were they?
Sounds like you will believe just about anything that you choose to believe.
Every one of you conspiratory theorists keep making the same miscalculations and statements.. STEEL will bend at temps far below it melting temp. And I can bend steel with a kitchen match.
Toolmangler,
re: "feely, if you are the same one I have disagreed with for a long time now,"
The one and only.
Re: "then you know when I am merely being facetious and sarcastic."
I may know, but your post was unclear on that point.
Re: "So ''you'' pull it out."
Can I borrow your tongs?
yep!!!! ;)
Toolmangler,
Re: "Every one of you conspiratory theorists keep making the same miscalculations and statements.."
The only conspiracy theory that I am aware of is the one about 19 hijackers knocking down 3 buildings with 2 airplanes, and it has been soundly discredited.
Re: "STEEL will bend at temps far below it melting temp. And I can bend steel with a kitchen match."
And I can bend steel with my bare hands, however, the structure of these buildings was not made up of sheet metal or coat hangers.
Yep. Smaller planes that those they use in training, like Cessna 152s and alike, are so light and overpowered, they tend to go nose up from all the lift and they are more difficult to pinpoint control. In fact, turning off the engine is common for landing light training props. A jet on the other hand has much better handling and tends to be more nose heavy. It'' easier to control a nose heavy plane than a nose up one, especially with tighter controls like a jet has.
Look at a arial view of the Pentagon there is at least a quarter mile from the Bldg to the nearest obstructions on the west side
Missiles = RPG''s
The person who wrote that - Doesn''t understand the difference between a - Missile from a - Rocket Propelled Grenade.
Lastdance
Iran may have 11,000 various missiles including Bottle Rockets. They probably have less then 20 that would ever reach a target.
I have never flown anything with more than one engine and I only have around 60 hours of solo flying time and never could pass the medical to get a license but I am more than able to fly a big plane long enough and accurately enough to have hit the Pentagon or anything else I wanted with in its fuel range.
The EYE WITNESSES who SAW the plane hit with their OWN EYES? Or is it like Richard Pryor used to say, "are you going to believe me or your lyin'' eyes".
It''s not likely the plane was traveling in a straight line when it hit. It was flying in a somewhat straight line until the last seconds when it probably dived into the first floor. Hitting at a shallow angle like that, near the base of the Pentagon, would not leave any skid marks.
Again, this website says it better:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html
Correct, most people with rudimentary flight skills could do it. On top of that, while the fast speed decreases response time, it also increases the aircraft''s directional stability and it''s much easier to line up than at a slower speed (you tend to porpoise at slower speeds), especially if you are only making slight adjustments.
Iran poses no immanent threat to the U.S. None whatsoever.
I would volunteer to mark a bullseye on the home of anyone stupid enough to think that waging yet another illegal, self-defeating, and disgraceful war of aggression, this time against Iran, is a good idea.
That is the problem with neocons they don''t think they just react. Wait that is why we call them reactionary. You know there was another reactionary government is was call Nazi Germany well that was Fascist and they hated the Soviet Union. Guess what we all hated them more, now there is no more Soviet Union but the neocons want Russia to step up but they don''t want too. So guess what neocons you are out of business because we are getting tired of the so called war that you created in Iraq. Morons when is the Republican party going to wake up and chase these clowns off.
also, many eyewitnesses reported something much smaller than a commercial jet
Eyewitnesses also thought the first plane hitting the WTC was a Cesna or small charter plane. I heard Bryan Bumble say so. Eyewitnesses get it wrong, especially when it''s something they''ve never seen before, and it''s very difficult to gauge the size of things when you''ve never seen something out of it''s environment.
I''ve watched a Discovery Channel on how they "pull" buildings, and they followed a demolition crew as it prepared an old casino in Las Vegas for demolition.
It took weeks and weeks of planning, studying, drilling and weakening the supports of the building until it could barely stand, and then days were spent planting charges and wiring them.
It takes LOTS and LOTS of prep and effort to wire a vacant building down, one much smaller than the Twin Towers.
But the conspiracists would have us believe that in not one, not two, but in THREE of the busiest buildings in New York City, that crews did all of this without anyone noticing, asking questions, coming forth afterwards and saying they saw suspicious things.
And all the janitor crews in those buildings, the night cleaning crews, the people working all night, all the security people, all the people who maintain the buildings, they ALL either were in on it, or kept quiet.
That''s one heck of a conspiracy.
Anyone who believes in all this 9-11 Conspiracy Bunk is very gullible. That''s the nicest way I can put it.
we''re not playing poker, we''re playing bridge.
kibbutzers aside. persian lamb is well known
throughout the world. here in southern california
all we get is lamb from new zealand. we know
you are not pulling the wool over our eyes or
crying wolf. but should little red riding hood
go to grandma''s house and get hurt, heaven forbid
grandpa or great granpa or great great pa
should hear about it. he might go absolutely
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious and go ballistic.
how about flying kites today? box kites, all kinds
kites, even kiting of checks. the balance sheet
is done in sheep metal. sheepskings are fine.
but what are we gonna do with the sheepskin?
go sailing for jason and the algonauts.
find the golden fleece. the head of persia
looks a double for some guy in an old american
movie with steve reeves as hercules doesn''t he?
but steve reeves has gone on pegasus to the
area beyond zero, and beyond the end of forever,
and watches with amusement from there, our
little temper tantrums. do the problems on infinite
mathematics 6-20 and we''ll have the test on monday.
if it ever gets here? or maybe it already happened.
Have you ever seen how a professor in a college class of 30-50 students, teaching about the accuracy of eye witnesses will do an experiment to prove his point about the unreliability of witneses? He''ll have a guy run through the class, surprising all the students, grab something off the professor''s desk and run out... then he''ll quiz everyone about what happened, and the group can''t even agree on what color his shirt was.
And then the professor will ask everyone what they say
hawksprings,
Re: "Anyone who believes in all this 9-11 Conspiracy Bunk is very gullible. That''s the nicest way I can put it."
Agreed. The 19 highjacker conspiracy theory is simply beyond belief, and has been soundly debunked.
Any one that would believe such nonsense, would have to be gulligle enough to believe that 5 (or 6?) nuclear weapons could be loaded and flown around the U.S. by "accident".
(That''s "nookyouler" weapons, for you Bush dead-ender bobble-heads out there.)
feely,
Actually, the WTC incident was filmed at the same stage as the Moon Landing. The WTC is really still standing.
Also, being more on-topic, can anyone remember how Saddam and the Mainstream Media told us how Iraq had the 3rd most powerful military in the world, and how their Anti-aircraft System was the best in the world, and what hardened and fierce warriors the Republican Guard were?
This is the same Iraq that Iran could only fight to a stalemate after how many years?
Rogerr8,
Re: "I love how guys who barely passed wood shop in high school become experts in ballistics, trajectories, mass, acceleration piloting, warfare etc."
The ruling elite loves people who jump to faulty conclusions based, only on their own imagination. This makes them much easier to dupe and control.
Why don''t you ask the 70 suspended or fired Air Force Personnel how they feel about the whole thing?
"Iran SS-N-22 Sunburn"
And find out why attacking Iran will NOT be the cakewalk that it was like when we (unjustly) attacked Iraq in 2003.
Cakewalk or not, it would be extremely foolish to attack another country, not matter what country it is.
Also, Russia and China have vowed to help defend Iran against her aggressors. Why? Because Iran is one of their closest allies. It is no coincidence that Russia and China, once unfriendly to each other during the Cold War (version 1), now have regular joint military exercises.
A war with Iran will equal only one thing... a war with China and Russia as well. And that, ladies and gentlemen, will equal World War 3.
Which is the lesser of two evils:
Iran with (supposed future) nukes
OR
World War 3 with nukes being launched from both sides of the globe.
The choice is clear.
The US is not going to attack Iran. There is no reason if the plutonium purification is stopped - and I suspect it will be stopped.
No one (not even the Russians or Chinese) want some fanatics to have the bomb. They would use it. No doubt about it. Nuclear deterrence does not work with people who want to die to get to a better place........
comrade was killed in northridge over the weekend
during a knife fight, the killer claiming self-defense, the victim being the ucsb student just
hanging out over the weekend at the killer''s girlfriends house, who had other boyfriends, that
the killer did not know about, due to persian porn,
it might be wise to consult not only the ouija
but crystal balls before unleashing operation
let''s see what happens if i press this button.
by trial and error we learn. the days of
the red telephone are long gone. everyone has
disarmed and there is peace and prosperity in
the new millenium of love forever and ever.
the problem of pain by c.s. lewis, was an attempt
at getting God out of hot water. but i remain
unconvinced. so theology today is a mish mash
of atheism and state control. nihilistic nihilism
and nietzsche. and god died, before he was born.
so therefore he was never born. and if he had
never been born, he would never have had such pain.
Only in your cave.
donbl1,
Re: "The US is not going to attack Iran. There is no reason if the plutonium purification is stopped - and I suspect it will be stopped."
There is no "plutonium purification" being attempted in Iran, because there is no plutonium in Iran, to the best of anyones knowledge. You are the first person that I have even seen make this uninformed assertion.
It looks like you have some studying to do, before you will be able to offer an informed opinion on this topic."
Re: "No one (not even the Russians or Chinese) want some fanatics to have the bomb. They would use it. No doubt about it."
I hope that our mind-reading skills are more developed than your reasoning and analysis abilities.
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