Turkey Approves Iraq Invasion

Lawmakers Endorse Bill For Attack On Kurdish Rebels "When Time Is Ripe"

(CBS/AP)  Turkey's parliament on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved a possible cross-border offensive against Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq, although the government appears willing to give more time to diplomatic pressure on the U.S.-backed Iraqi administration.

Parliament voted 507-19 in favor of empowering the government to order the military to cross into Iraq over a one-year period, Parliament Speaker Koksal Toptan said. Legislators burst into applause.

In Washington, President Bush said the United States was making clear to Turkey it should not send massive number of troops into Iraq.

Turkish leaders have stressed that an offensive against the rebels of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, would not immediately follow the expected authorization.

"The passage of the motion in parliament does not mean that an operation will be carried out at once," Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Tuesday. "Turkey will act with common sense and determination when necessary and when the time is ripe."

Hours before the vote, Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki called his Turkish counterpart to say that his government was determined to halt the “terrorist activities” of the PKK on Iraqi territory, and he emphasized the need for the two nations to continue to talk, his office said in a statement.

Iraq has urged Turkey not to send troops across the border to pursue separatist Kurds in mountain hideouts. It dispatched one of its two vice presidents to Ankara on Tuesday and called for a diplomatic solution to tensions that have raised fears of a new front in the Iraq war.

"Iraq must be given the chance to stop PKK rebels who cross the border before Turkey takes any step," the Anatolia news agency quoted Iraqi Vice President Tariq al-Hashimi as saying before his departure from Ankara.

"I got what I wanted from our talks. There is a new atmosphere to stop the current crisis," he was also quoted as saying. Al-Hashimi met Tuesday with Erdogan and other Turkish officials.

Hours before the vote in parliament, Turkey invited ambassadors from countries bordering Iraq and other Middle Eastern nations to the Foreign Ministry for a briefing on why it was passing the motion in parliament.

The motion, authorizing an attack into Iraq sometime over the next year, had the backing of all but one party in parliament. Only a small Kurdish party voted against it.

Public anger over attacks by Kurdish guerrillas is high but Turkish officials are mindful that two dozen Iraqi campaigns since the 1980s have failed to eradicate the PKK. A cross-border attack into northern Iraq could also strain ties with the United States, a NATO ally that opposes any disruption of its efforts to stabilize Iraq.

Kurdish rebels from the PKK have been fighting since 1984 for autonomy in Turkey's Kurdish-dominated southeast, a conflict that has claimed tens of thousands of lives.

Turkey has complained about what it considers a lack of U.S. support in the fight against the PKK, a frustration with Washington intensified because of another sensitive issue: the killing of up to 1.5 million Armenians in the final years of the Ottoman Empire.

A panel in the U.S. House of Representatives approved a resolution last week labeling the killings genocide, an affront to Turks who deny there was any systematic campaign to eliminate Armenians.

However, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday the prospects of a vote on the genocide bill in the full House were uncertain.

Her statement came after several members pulled their support for the resolution out of fear that it would cripple U.S. relations with Turkey.

Another prominent Democrat also predicted the resolution would fail in the House. Congressman John Murtha says his party's leadership underestimated opposition to the resolution.

In other developments:

The Pentagon is set to alert eight National Guard units to be ready for deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan starting late next summer. Defense officials tell AP that seven of the units will deploy to Iraq and one to Afghanistan. An announcement is not expected until later this week. The military is reaching out to more Guard units to ease strain on active-duty Army personnel and provide security for ports, convoys and installations. U.S. officials are also trying to maintain necessary troop levels. Specific brigades were not identified, but the officials say they will include units from North Carolina, Oklahoma, Illinois and Hawaii.

A State Department review of private security guards hired for diplomats in Iraq is unlikely to recommend firing Blackwater USA because of the deaths of 17 Iraqis last month, but the company probably is on the way out of that job, U.S. officials said Wednesday. Blackwater's contract for escorting U.S. diplomats outside the protected Green Zone in Baghdad expires in May, one official said, and other officials told The Associated Press they expect the North Carolina company will not continue to work for the U.S. Embassy after that. It is likely that Blackwater will not compete to keep the job, one official said. Blackwater probably will not be fired outright or even "eased out," the official added, but there is a mutual feeling that the Sept. 16 shooting deaths mean the company cannot continue in its current role.

U.S. soldiers who guarded the lockup that housed Saddam Hussein in his last months testified Wednesday their camp commander let former regime inmates - including those on death row - use his cell phone for unmonitored calls. The testimony, on the third day of the court-martial of 52-year-old Lt. Col. William H. Steele, an Army reservist from Prince George, Virginia, faces a life sentence if convicted on the charge of aiding the enemy by allowing the prisoners use his phone.

While Iraqis are unlikely to enjoy 24 hours a day of electrical power until 2013, they are getting about 15 hours on average nationwide, far above expectations, says the Army Corps of Engineers. Progress in reconstruction extends also to health care, with 28 newly opened primary clinics, 12 of them in Baghdad, the capital, Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh, commander of the Corps' Gulf region division for a year, said Tuesday.

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by terrorislam2 October 19, 2007 6:29 AM EDT

NONE OF US IS FREE UNLESS ALL ARE FREE!

None Of Us Are Free - Lynyrd Skynyrd
http://www.lyrics007.com/Lynyrd%20Skynyrd%20Lyrics/None%20Of%20Us%20Are%20Free%20Lyrics.html

WHY IS IT NOT ONE MUSLIM COUNTRY GRANTS EQUAL RIGHTS TO NON MUSLIMS?

FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM SAYS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATES ISLAM LAW

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

For example, in 1981, the Iranian representative to the United Nations, Said Rajaie-Khorassani, articulated the position of his country regarding the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by saying that the UDHR was "a secular understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition", which could not be implemented by Muslims without trespassing the Islamic law.

http://www.un.org/terrorism/
http://www.un.org/terrorism/strategy-counter-terrorism.html
http://www.un.org/

But the accepted assumption in India is that most of India''s Muslims were converted to Islam through the sword. Meaning the Indians were given an option between death or adopting Islam. The third option was getting examined in Islam religion along with heavy taxes- Jeziya (poll tax) and Kharaj (property tax).

http://adaniel.tripod.com/Islam.htm

this is what fascist nazi islam calls peace....

are you ready to live under islam rule as a non muslim???

apartheid fascist nazi islamic style

Rights of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/islamic_state.htm

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by terrorislam2 October 19, 2007 6:27 AM EDT

TURKEY,,, YOU ARE APTLY NAMED

all fascist nazi terrorislamic countries should be boycotted until they give equal rights to all people, just like south africa was,,,

or eradicated,,,

In Turkey non Muslims are listed as Foreigners
http://www.christiansofiraq.com/turkeychris.html

Will Turkey become an Islamist state?
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1178020745039&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Turkish court halts Gul presidency
http://www.guardian.co.uk/turkey/story/0,,2069983,00.html

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by bxazy8 October 18, 2007 5:20 PM EDT

***** Stop The War & Corporate Corruption *****

Why Don''''t You Know Ron Paul??????

The corporate media will not give Ron Paul any Exposure. Because, NBC is owned by GE. GE is one of the world''''s largest war-makers. They make things that go boom. They make $Billions on war. A Ron Paul administration would be bad for business. CNN is owned by AOL. Majority share holder is Saudi Royal Talal who is also partners with GHWBush in The Carlyle Group. Another major warmaker. And on and on. You get the picture. This is why they are doing a Media Blackout on him. Because they don''''t WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH!!!

Who is Ron Paul?
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about

Ron Paul Has WON 10 Straw-Polls!

Who Owns The Media: http://www.mediaowners.com

RESTORE YOUR LIBERTY & FREEDOM
SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT RON PAUL 2008!

Ron Paul Will:

** Stop Iraq War Immediately
** Eliminate IRS
** Eliminate Federal Reserve
** Eliminate Government Wasteful Spending
** Restore America''''s Work Force & Values
** Restore America''''s Freedom!

GET UP AND GET ACTIVE TODAY!!!
Ron Paul Is America''''s Last Hope!

Join The ReVoLuTiOn In Your City Stand Up America:
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/cities/

We have Domestic Terrorists It Is Called The Bush Administration And All Of His "Secretive Signed Statements" Either Stand Up Now or Go To Sams Club And Keep Buying Cases of Vasiline So When You Put Hillary In Office! WAKE UP AMERICA!

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by jraf766 October 18, 2007 10:45 AM EDT

We dont need Turkey anyways we can use Kuwait.

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by terrorislam2 October 18, 2007 7:33 AM EDT

Posted by vet1971 at 02:59 AM : Oct 18, 2007

it is fascist nazi terrorislam that is commiting genocide,,, but then you knew that already,,, right haji???

LOOK WHO IS TARGETING CIVILIANS!!!

Hizbullah Deputy Sec-Gen Sheikh Naim Qassem: We Have Jurisprudent Permission to Carry Out ''Martyrdom'' Operations, Fire Missiles on Israeli Civilians From Ayatollah Khomeini
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154907

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108

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by terrorislam2 October 18, 2007 7:24 AM EDT

Posted by brianbwb at 01:43 AM : Oct 18, 2007

the Iraqi war is legal, demonic-rat hero al bore says so,,, and an oscar, emmy and nobel prize winner would not lie,,,
it actually never ended since it only stopped by the signing of a ceasefire,,, just like the korean war,,,

the resumption of hostilities was only a matter of time since iraq broke the ceasefire agreement,,,

blame saddam for iraq,,, Even clintoon and the dems wanted the resumption of hostilities back in 1998,,,

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq''s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

Moreover, no international law can prevent the United States from taking actions to protect its vital interests, when it is manifestly clear that there is a choice to be made between law and survival. I believe, however, that such a choice is not presented in the case of Iraq. Indeed, should we decide to proceed, that action can be justified within the framework of international law rather than outside it. In fact, though a new UN resolution may be helpful in building international consensus, the existing resolutions from 1991 are sufficient from a legal standpoint. - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html

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by Con Mohrat October 18, 2007 5:59 AM EDT

All the talking about 9/11. It was a catastrophe ok. A couple of buildings, less than 3,000 people. We''ll listen to whining until the cows come home.
What did we do in return? Begin a genocide in Iraq. Now the Turks want some of that action. Should Bush be the one to tell them to back off? What about his own invaders and occupiers? Invasion and occupation to control another country smacks of Nazi Germany, and we know what the world thought of the idea.
Speaking about comparing wars. Bush is convinced that the USA won WWII practically by themselves. The Soviet Union lost 26 millon people, and we were lucky they were on the side of the Allies. Now, Russia with its technology (first men and women in space) is allied with the mightiest army on earth--China''s one million strong. Bush dreams of pitting his ARMY OF ONE against them. Sounds very much like the mosquito on the elephant''s behind thinking rape.

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by Con Mohrat October 18, 2007 5:59 AM EDT

All the talking about 9/11. It was a catastrophe ok. A couple of buildings, less than 3,000 people. We''ll listen to whining until the cows come home.
What did we do in return? Begin a genocide in Iraq. Now the Turks want some of that action. Should Bush be the one to tell them to back off? What about his own invaders and occupiers? Invasion and occupation to control another country smacks of Nazi Germany, and we know what the world thought of the idea.
Speaking about comparing wars. Bush is convinced that the USA won WWII practically by themselves. The Soviet Union lost 26 millon people, and we were lucky they were on the side of the Allies. Now, Russia with its technology (first men and women in space) is allied with the mightiest army on earth--China''s one million strong. Bush dreams of pitting his ARMY OF ONE against them. Sounds very much like the mosquito on the elephant''s behind thinking rape.

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by brianbwb-2009 October 18, 2007 4:43 AM EDT

"or the relatively insignificant 875 US soldiers dying in Iraq per year (AP 6/7/7)."
Posted by robaldrich4

So if one or more of those deaths is in your family or group of loved ones, given the fact that they are only there because of Bush''s lies, to you that would be OK?

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by baghdadshere October 18, 2007 4:03 AM EDT

"Turkey Approves Iraq Invasion
Lawmakers Endorse Bill For Attack On Kurdish Rebels "When Time Is Ripe"
.........................................
Thats the problem when you got too much oil. Looks like everybody wants to invaded Iraq. The problem is: Iraq is alread invaded and the turkish didnt noticed it.

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by red164 October 18, 2007 3:46 AM EDT

Posted by poopusbuttus at 12:06 AM : Oct 18, 2007

Can''t you hear it over and over 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11

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by ubrew12 October 18, 2007 3:25 AM EDT

Just another example of the law of unintended consequences.

Except some of us (those you aren''t Bush republicans) could and did see this coming from WAY off.

Bush republicans too busy licking the a*s in front of them.

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by poopusbuttus October 18, 2007 3:06 AM EDT

Liberals need to be beaten. And then, sent to re-education camps.

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by tbweb October 18, 2007 2:42 AM EDT

BAGHDAD, Oct. 17 %u2014 Iraq has agreed to award $1.1 billion in contracts to Iranian and Chinese companies to build a pair of enormous power plants, the Iraqi electricity minister said Tuesday. Word of the project prompted serious concerns among American military officials, who fear that Iranian commercial investments can mask military activities at a time of heightened tension with Iran. Add this to Iraq buying $100 Million Dollars worth of weapons from China and its becoming increasing clear Iraq is trying to make fools out of the United States! Like their 5 week vacation in the middle of an intense War, Iraq''s Government is not even close to being serious where it matters! Lets see if Iraq gets serious now that Turkey is adding to their drama!

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by red164 October 18, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

10/16/2007
NIST Admits Total Collapse Of Twin Towers Unexplainable


"The only theory that is supported by the evidence is controlled demolition with explosives," Gage says. "You could never get a collapse event of that speed through 80 floors of intact steel structure. The laws of physics simply don''t allow it."--"Independent Investigators Release Suppressed Blueprints of Destroyed World Trade Center Tower," Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, March 27, 2007]


1945
Empire State Building Withstood Airplane Impact

The World Trade Center towers were not the first of New York%u2019s skyscrapers to be hit by an airplane. In 1945, the Empire State Building withstood the impact of a U.S. Army Air Corps B-25 bomber. Fourteen lives were lost, but the steel structure remained standing after the unarmed trainer plane slammed into the building%u2019s 79th floor. When the plane hit, its fuel tanks were reported to have exploded, engulfing the 79th floor in flames.

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by red164 October 18, 2007 2:29 AM EDT

PELOSI NEEDS TO GO ALONG WITH BUSH AND CHENEY

INVESTIGATE 9/11

NIST Admits Total Collapse Of Twin Towers Unexplainable

NIST Admits Total Collapse Of Twin Towers Unexplainable Implicitly acknowledges controlled demolition only means by which towers could have fallen at free ...
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/octob
er2007/161007_nist_admits.htm - 38k - Cached - Similar pages



["A few years ago a project set up by the men who now surround George W Bush said what America needed was ''''a new Pearl Harbor''''. Its published aims have, alarmingly, come true."--John Pilger, What America Needed Was ''''a New Pearl Harbor'''', December 12, 2002]

1945
Empire State Building Withstood Airplane Impact

The World Trade Center towers were not the first of New York%u2019s skyscrapers to be hit by an airplane. In 1945, the Empire State Building withstood the impact of a U.S. Army Air Corps B-25 bomber. Fourteen lives were lost, but the steel structure remained standing after the unarmed trainer plane slammed into the building%u2019s 79th floor. When the plane hit, its fuel tanks were reported to have exploded, engulfing the 79th floor in flames.


BUSH:
I%u2019ve never felt more engaged and more capable of helping people recognize - American people recognize - that there%u2019s a lot of unfinished business."
BUSH:
American people recognize - that there%u2019s a lot of unfinished business."


NOW I''''M SCARED

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by mocalleo October 18, 2007 2:07 AM EDT

Any time you bring up Clinton''s foibles in the 1990''s,
liberals SCREAM..."we don''t want to talk about the past"

Now, liberals want to talk about Armenian genocide
that occured over 90 years ago???.

ROTFLMAO

just more liberal hypocrisy...Seig Heil, Hillary !!

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by robaldrich October 18, 2007 2:04 AM EDT

Someone said: Seriously, even non-Liberals can see that Bill Clinton''''s infidelities are merely a bad mark on his personal character.

--------

They''d have to be shallow minded. What about the lives destroyed when little girls in GRADE SCHOOLS across the country think nothing about giving blow jobs to boys at school because they were taught it is OK by their president, and the subsequent liberal downplaying of the inappropriateness of his conduct; instead, being told that such conduct is a choice acceptable in our society.

Just because you can''t see a body with a bullet in it, doesn''t mean that nobody is harmed. Either our whole society will be denigrated by the acceptance of this conduct, or these girls will one day realize that they were sexually objectified by our president and his liberal, degenerate, friends.

Certainly, STDs at such a young age is harm.

Oh yea. What about the fact that, generally, while boys love this trend, and girls think they are getting male approval/attention/love, men likely to be successful and monogamous won''t marry them.

Sounds like outrageous harm to me.

Seem far worse than the 17,229 people in the US who die every year from falling down(NSC 2003); 28,846 babies who die in US per year from being born (CDC 2003); 15,000 each year dying from getting less than five hours of sleep (NSF 2007); or the relatively insignificant 875 US soldiers dying in Iraq per year (AP 6/7/7).

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by ajmarine1 October 18, 2007 1:36 AM EDT

Either way gas shot up to $89 per barrel.

Prez. VP should thank Turkey for that.

Posted by venkata4 at 02:56 PM : Oct 17, 2007,

If I could get a 55-gallon barrel of "gas" for $89, that would be a pretty good deal.

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by tbweb October 18, 2007 1:30 AM EDT

"Enter the lake waist deep. When you see the flash, take a deep breath, and go under." -- Suggestion from a Lawrence Livermore Study on "Surviving a Nuclear War" written in the early 1980s as part of the Star Wars projects.

Sage advice for the next 15.5 months.

Regards,

Posted by Nancy_Naive at 08:03 PM : Oct 17, 2007,,,

The only thing they forgot to mention was that the water will be boiling!

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[terrorislam2]

NONE OF US IS FREE UNLESS ALL ARE FREE!

None Of Us Are Free - Lynyrd Skynyrd
http://www.lyrics007.com/Lynyrd%20Skynyrd%20Lyrics/None%20Of%20Us%20Are%20Free%20Lyrics.html

WHY IS IT NOT ONE MUSLIM COUNTRY GRANTS EQUAL RIGHTS TO NON MUSLIMS?

FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM SAYS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATES ISLAM LAW

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

For example, in 1981, the Iranian representative to the United Nations, Said Rajaie-Khorassani, articulated the position of his country regarding the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by saying that the UDHR was "a secular understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition", which could not be implemented by Muslims without trespassing the Islamic law.

http://www.un.org/terrorism/
http://www.un.org/terrorism/strategy-counter-terrorism.html
http://www.un.org/

But the accepted assumption in India is that most of India''s Muslims were converted to Islam through the sword. Meaning the Indians were given an option between death or adopting Islam. The third option was getting examined in Islam religion along with heavy taxes- Jeziya (poll tax) and Kharaj (property tax).

http://adaniel.tripod.com/Islam.htm

this is what fascist nazi islam calls peace....

are you ready to live under islam rule as a non muslim???

apartheid fascist nazi islamic style

Rights of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/islamic_state.htm

[terrorislam2]

TURKEY,,, YOU ARE APTLY NAMED

all fascist nazi terrorislamic countries should be boycotted until they give equal rights to all people, just like south africa was,,,

or eradicated,,,

In Turkey non Muslims are listed as Foreigners
http://www.christiansofiraq.com/turkeychris.html

Will Turkey become an Islamist state?
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1178020745039&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Turkish court halts Gul presidency
http://www.guardian.co.uk/turkey/story/0,,2069983,00.html

[bxazy8]

***** Stop The War & Corporate Corruption *****

Why Don''''t You Know Ron Paul??????

The corporate media will not give Ron Paul any Exposure. Because, NBC is owned by GE. GE is one of the world''''s largest war-makers. They make things that go boom. They make $Billions on war. A Ron Paul administration would be bad for business. CNN is owned by AOL. Majority share holder is Saudi Royal Talal who is also partners with GHWBush in The Carlyle Group. Another major warmaker. And on and on. You get the picture. This is why they are doing a Media Blackout on him. Because they don''''t WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH!!!

Who is Ron Paul?
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about

Ron Paul Has WON 10 Straw-Polls!

Who Owns The Media: http://www.mediaowners.com

RESTORE YOUR LIBERTY & FREEDOM
SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT RON PAUL 2008!

Ron Paul Will:

** Stop Iraq War Immediately
** Eliminate IRS
** Eliminate Federal Reserve
** Eliminate Government Wasteful Spending
** Restore America''''s Work Force & Values
** Restore America''''s Freedom!

GET UP AND GET ACTIVE TODAY!!!
Ron Paul Is America''''s Last Hope!

Join The ReVoLuTiOn In Your City Stand Up America:
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/cities/

We have Domestic Terrorists It Is Called The Bush Administration And All Of His "Secretive Signed Statements" Either Stand Up Now or Go To Sams Club And Keep Buying Cases of Vasiline So When You Put Hillary In Office! WAKE UP AMERICA!

[jraf766]

We dont need Turkey anyways we can use Kuwait.

[terrorislam2]

Posted by vet1971 at 02:59 AM : Oct 18, 2007

it is fascist nazi terrorislam that is commiting genocide,,, but then you knew that already,,, right haji???

LOOK WHO IS TARGETING CIVILIANS!!!

Hizbullah Deputy Sec-Gen Sheikh Naim Qassem: We Have Jurisprudent Permission to Carry Out ''Martyrdom'' Operations, Fire Missiles on Israeli Civilians From Ayatollah Khomeini
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154907

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108

[terrorislam2]

Posted by brianbwb at 01:43 AM : Oct 18, 2007

the Iraqi war is legal, demonic-rat hero al bore says so,,, and an oscar, emmy and nobel prize winner would not lie,,,
it actually never ended since it only stopped by the signing of a ceasefire,,, just like the korean war,,,

the resumption of hostilities was only a matter of time since iraq broke the ceasefire agreement,,,

blame saddam for iraq,,, Even clintoon and the dems wanted the resumption of hostilities back in 1998,,,

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq''s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

Moreover, no international law can prevent the United States from taking actions to protect its vital interests, when it is manifestly clear that there is a choice to be made between law and survival. I believe, however, that such a choice is not presented in the case of Iraq. Indeed, should we decide to proceed, that action can be justified within the framework of international law rather than outside it. In fact, though a new UN resolution may be helpful in building international consensus, the existing resolutions from 1991 are sufficient from a legal standpoint. - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html

[Con Mohrat]

All the talking about 9/11. It was a catastrophe ok. A couple of buildings, less than 3,000 people. We''ll listen to whining until the cows come home.
What did we do in return? Begin a genocide in Iraq. Now the Turks want some of that action. Should Bush be the one to tell them to back off? What about his own invaders and occupiers? Invasion and occupation to control another country smacks of Nazi Germany, and we know what the world thought of the idea.
Speaking about comparing wars. Bush is convinced that the USA won WWII practically by themselves. The Soviet Union lost 26 millon people, and we were lucky they were on the side of the Allies. Now, Russia with its technology (first men and women in space) is allied with the mightiest army on earth--China''s one million strong. Bush dreams of pitting his ARMY OF ONE against them. Sounds very much like the mosquito on the elephant''s behind thinking rape.

[Con Mohrat]

All the talking about 9/11. It was a catastrophe ok. A couple of buildings, less than 3,000 people. We''ll listen to whining until the cows come home.
What did we do in return? Begin a genocide in Iraq. Now the Turks want some of that action. Should Bush be the one to tell them to back off? What about his own invaders and occupiers? Invasion and occupation to control another country smacks of Nazi Germany, and we know what the world thought of the idea.
Speaking about comparing wars. Bush is convinced that the USA won WWII practically by themselves. The Soviet Union lost 26 millon people, and we were lucky they were on the side of the Allies. Now, Russia with its technology (first men and women in space) is allied with the mightiest army on earth--China''s one million strong. Bush dreams of pitting his ARMY OF ONE against them. Sounds very much like the mosquito on the elephant''s behind thinking rape.

[brianbwb-2009]

"or the relatively insignificant 875 US soldiers dying in Iraq per year (AP 6/7/7)."
Posted by robaldrich4

So if one or more of those deaths is in your family or group of loved ones, given the fact that they are only there because of Bush''s lies, to you that would be OK?

[baghdadshere]

"Turkey Approves Iraq Invasion
Lawmakers Endorse Bill For Attack On Kurdish Rebels "When Time Is Ripe"
.........................................
Thats the problem when you got too much oil. Looks like everybody wants to invaded Iraq. The problem is: Iraq is alread invaded and the turkish didnt noticed it.

[red164]

Posted by poopusbuttus at 12:06 AM : Oct 18, 2007

Can''t you hear it over and over 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11

[ubrew12]

Just another example of the law of unintended consequences.

Except some of us (those you aren''t Bush republicans) could and did see this coming from WAY off.

Bush republicans too busy licking the a*s in front of them.

[poopusbuttus]

Liberals need to be beaten. And then, sent to re-education camps.

[tbweb]

BAGHDAD, Oct. 17 %u2014 Iraq has agreed to award $1.1 billion in contracts to Iranian and Chinese companies to build a pair of enormous power plants, the Iraqi electricity minister said Tuesday. Word of the project prompted serious concerns among American military officials, who fear that Iranian commercial investments can mask military activities at a time of heightened tension with Iran. Add this to Iraq buying $100 Million Dollars worth of weapons from China and its becoming increasing clear Iraq is trying to make fools out of the United States! Like their 5 week vacation in the middle of an intense War, Iraq''s Government is not even close to being serious where it matters! Lets see if Iraq gets serious now that Turkey is adding to their drama!

[red164]

10/16/2007
NIST Admits Total Collapse Of Twin Towers Unexplainable


"The only theory that is supported by the evidence is controlled demolition with explosives," Gage says. "You could never get a collapse event of that speed through 80 floors of intact steel structure. The laws of physics simply don''t allow it."--"Independent Investigators Release Suppressed Blueprints of Destroyed World Trade Center Tower," Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, March 27, 2007]


1945
Empire State Building Withstood Airplane Impact

The World Trade Center towers were not the first of New York%u2019s skyscrapers to be hit by an airplane. In 1945, the Empire State Building withstood the impact of a U.S. Army Air Corps B-25 bomber. Fourteen lives were lost, but the steel structure remained standing after the unarmed trainer plane slammed into the building%u2019s 79th floor. When the plane hit, its fuel tanks were reported to have exploded, engulfing the 79th floor in flames.

[red164]

PELOSI NEEDS TO GO ALONG WITH BUSH AND CHENEY

INVESTIGATE 9/11

NIST Admits Total Collapse Of Twin Towers Unexplainable

NIST Admits Total Collapse Of Twin Towers Unexplainable Implicitly acknowledges controlled demolition only means by which towers could have fallen at free ...
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["A few years ago a project set up by the men who now surround George W Bush said what America needed was ''''a new Pearl Harbor''''. Its published aims have, alarmingly, come true."--John Pilger, What America Needed Was ''''a New Pearl Harbor'''', December 12, 2002]

1945
Empire State Building Withstood Airplane Impact

The World Trade Center towers were not the first of New York%u2019s skyscrapers to be hit by an airplane. In 1945, the Empire State Building withstood the impact of a U.S. Army Air Corps B-25 bomber. Fourteen lives were lost, but the steel structure remained standing after the unarmed trainer plane slammed into the building%u2019s 79th floor. When the plane hit, its fuel tanks were reported to have exploded, engulfing the 79th floor in flames.


BUSH:
I%u2019ve never felt more engaged and more capable of helping people recognize - American people recognize - that there%u2019s a lot of unfinished business."
BUSH:
American people recognize - that there%u2019s a lot of unfinished business."


NOW I''''M SCARED

[mocalleo]

Any time you bring up Clinton''s foibles in the 1990''s,
liberals SCREAM..."we don''t want to talk about the past"

Now, liberals want to talk about Armenian genocide
that occured over 90 years ago???.

ROTFLMAO

just more liberal hypocrisy...Seig Heil, Hillary !!

[robaldrich]

Someone said: Seriously, even non-Liberals can see that Bill Clinton''''s infidelities are merely a bad mark on his personal character.

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They''d have to be shallow minded. What about the lives destroyed when little girls in GRADE SCHOOLS across the country think nothing about giving blow jobs to boys at school because they were taught it is OK by their president, and the subsequent liberal downplaying of the inappropriateness of his conduct; instead, being told that such conduct is a choice acceptable in our society.

Just because you can''t see a body with a bullet in it, doesn''t mean that nobody is harmed. Either our whole society will be denigrated by the acceptance of this conduct, or these girls will one day realize that they were sexually objectified by our president and his liberal, degenerate, friends.

Certainly, STDs at such a young age is harm.

Oh yea. What about the fact that, generally, while boys love this trend, and girls think they are getting male approval/attention/love, men likely to be successful and monogamous won''t marry them.

Sounds like outrageous harm to me.

Seem far worse than the 17,229 people in the US who die every year from falling down(NSC 2003); 28,846 babies who die in US per year from being born (CDC 2003); 15,000 each year dying from getting less than five hours of sleep (NSF 2007); or the relatively insignificant 875 US soldiers dying in Iraq per year (AP 6/7/7).

[ajmarine1]

Either way gas shot up to $89 per barrel.

Prez. VP should thank Turkey for that.

Posted by venkata4 at 02:56 PM : Oct 17, 2007,

If I could get a 55-gallon barrel of "gas" for $89, that would be a pretty good deal.

[tbweb]

"Enter the lake waist deep. When you see the flash, take a deep breath, and go under." -- Suggestion from a Lawrence Livermore Study on "Surviving a Nuclear War" written in the early 1980s as part of the Star Wars projects.

Sage advice for the next 15.5 months.

Regards,

Posted by Nancy_Naive at 08:03 PM : Oct 17, 2007,,,

The only thing they forgot to mention was that the water will be boiling!