Aug. 17, 2008

Valerie Plame Wilson: No Ordinary Spy

In Her First Interview, Former CIA Officer Speaks To Katie Couric

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    Valerie Plame Wilson, the former covert CIA officer whose leaked identity resulted in a national scandal that reached all the way to the White House, appears in her first interview since her cover was blown. Katie Couric reports.

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"Fair Game"
by Valerie Plame Wilson

(CBS)  The special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, found evidence there were four leakers: deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, the vice president's Chief of Staff Lewis "Scooter" Libby, President Bush's closest confidante Karl Rove, and White House spokesman Ari Fleischer.

All avoided the most serious charges by claiming not to know she was undercover. But Joe Wilson says that's no excuse.

"It was a mafia-like tactic. And the idea of going after your family, even in Washington, was an outrage. Nobody went after Karl Rove's family. Nobody went after Scooter Libby's family. They went after my family," Wilson says.

"But in all fairness, Karl Rove's wife doesn't work for the CIA," Couric remarks.

"How do you know?" Wilson says.

"Scooter Libby's wife doesn't work for the CIA," Couric says.

"How do you know? How do you know?" Wilson asks.

"I don't know for sure. But I think it's a safe assumption," Couric replies.

Says Wilson, "Yeah, you don't know. And we don't know what they did because nobody went after their families. And that's the way it should be. That's the way it would be. However you wanna play the game, the idea of going after somebody's family is an absolute outrage."

"You are still seething," Couric says.

"Oh, I think - absolutely," Wilson admits, laughing. "Absolutely. I'm seething because it was first and foremost a great betrayal of the national security of the country."

In March 2007, Libby was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice. Fitzgerald said that by lying, Libby had prevented him from getting to the bottom of the leak, and he said "there is a cloud over the vice president," and "there is a cloud over the White House." A few months later, President Bush commuted his prison sentence.

"When all is said to done, the top aides to both the president and the vice president, leaked your name to reporters. Do you think President Bush was in on this?," Couric says.

"I don't know about that," Plame Wilson says. "But I, like most other Americans, saw President Bush say on TV that he would fire anyone from his administration found to be involved in leaking my name. It turns out the President is not a man of his word."

She hopes her book will allow her to clear the air. But even this, she says, has been a bitter fight and her manuscript has the scars to prove it: CIA censors blacked out 10 percent of the copy.

Today, their shared office in Santa Fe speaks volumes. On one side sits the outspoken former ambassador, his walls adorned with pictures and mementos from a storied career. On the other, the walls are practically bare, reflecting the secret life of a 20-year veteran of the CIA.

"Our critics would love nothing more for us to go away, and just be quiet. And we won't give them that satisfaction," Plame Wilson tells Couric. "We have young children that one day when they understand more of what's happened and what's transpired, we wanna be able to say to them, you know, we did our best. And we told the truth. We weren't perfect. But we tried to do the right thing."


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by petersemkiw August 20, 2008 2:57 PM EDT
Beautiful Valerie Plame Wilson is certainly not your ordinary looking run of the mill spy. She looked great in that picture in the Jaguar...and for months I thought her name was Valerie Flame!
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by georgew1956 August 18, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
i don''t know who done the most wrong. Katie Or George were so use to george *** up that Katie jumped right in there and became president of the fools union.
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by ioweign August 18, 2008 1:03 PM EDT
Hey walt, she was a desk jockey!!!!

Posted by Xlib at 09:35 AM : Aug 18, 2008

And George was a cheerleader!!!!!
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by ioweign August 18, 2008 1:01 PM EDT
The CIA had already given up Plame''''s name to Cuba, Russia, et al, 5-10 years back. But of course she can gloss over that. British Intelligence continued to speak of other documents than the Italian forgeries connecting Iraq and Niger, well after Joe Wilson''''s article. Why does she gloss over that? Joe Wilson said, "I was sent by the Vice President", which raised the question of the White House, of "who is this guy"? The White House didn''''t know and literally had to find out, who this guy was, that was using the White House as a front.
Now they want to cry foul because the White House answered the very question Wilson and Plame raised in the Press. That is called being disengenuous. That means, intentionally decietful.

Posted by kesac4650 at 12:16 AM : Aug 18, 2008

Do you have a "source" for your info ??

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by ioweign August 18, 2008 12:58 PM EDT
hofkurz-Ah, the big vast right wing conspiracy lives in your addled brain. This is a non story, always was, always will be. This chick was a desk jockey who sent her non ambassador hubby to Niger to spread lies. He is and was a nothing as was and is she. You leemings will swallow anything your soros controlled media feeds you. Now, refresh your koolaid cup.

Posted by Xlib at 07:33 AM : Aug 18, 2008

She did not have the pay grade to detail her husband and exactly what kind of job/occupation is a spy suppose to have that would satisfy "you".
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by luvny-2009 August 18, 2008 12:48 PM EDT
Watched it...listened to it.... believed it. Those that elected those criminals in Washington should be ashamed. We have a dictator not a president. This women lost her job over her husbands honestly. They went after his family. That maked me sick, the US has gotten so far out of wack in the last almost 8 years I''m ashamed of it.
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by xlib August 18, 2008 12:35 PM EDT
Hey walt, she was a desk jockey!!!!
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by archiej2 August 18, 2008 12:35 PM EDT
All kidding (or seriousness) aside, it would be a sure bet that Valerie has to be the most beautiful spy that any country has working on it''s behalf. You gotta believe that just about any male could be persuaded to give away all the goods after spending an evening with this stunning spy.
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by xlib August 18, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
walt1944-such a hateful, vile post but hey, that''s today''s dem party. If you have any anti psychotic meds, please take them and have your levels checked. You are a sick, vile human being.
And thanks you the supportive words for our wounded military. You, sir, are the reason I left the party.
Sick, just sick.
Hey, are you mcvet with another name???
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by walt1944-2009 August 18, 2008 12:27 PM EDT
All of you neocon Fascist Nazi reight-wing WACKO Republicans out there, take Anthony Scalia''s "advice", ACCEPT IT, GET A LIFE! SHOW US YOUR "PATRIOTISM"!! JOIN THE ARMY! GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN AND GET SHOT AT FOR REAL!!!

THEN COME BACK HERE (OR MAYBE A PART OF YOU ANYWAY!) AND WE CAN CALL ALL OF YOU "DESK JOCKEYS" TOO!!!!!!!

STAND UP STRAIGHT AND PROUD WITH RIGHT ARM OUT AND SHOUT!!!!

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!!!!!
sig heil, OLDER CLONE OF GEORGE BUSH, "DRRRRIIILLLLL!" MCCAIN!!!!!
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by xlib August 18, 2008 10:33 AM EDT
hofkurz-Ah, the big vast right wing conspiracy lives in your addled brain. This is a non story, always was, always will be. This chick was a desk jockey who sent her non ambassador hubby to Niger to spread lies. He is and was a nothing as was and is she. You leemings will swallow anything your soros controlled media feeds you. Now, refresh your koolaid cup.
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by xlib August 18, 2008 10:31 AM EDT
OK, we have the CIA story, next there will be a Katrina victim story followed by race baiting and class envy.
Still waiting for the real OUTER of this desk jockey. By the way, now she was a spy and not an operative???
Say, the sister of a friend of ours has joined the FBI as an analyst (same as plame for the CIA). If I give her name will I be charged for outing spy??
This is such a non story and cbs should be ashamed.
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by juwboy August 18, 2008 8:48 AM EDT
wmbrashier:

You lost even more credibility by misspelling "lose".
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by wmbrashier August 18, 2008 6:20 AM EDT
They loose their "credibility" as I did for misspelling the word.
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by wmbrashier August 18, 2008 5:47 AM EDT
Why is it when people disagree with thing that they read, they become judgemental and insulting? They loose all their creditability. They show their inability to express themselves.
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by sdnavyproud August 18, 2008 4:50 AM EDT
I didn''t catch this diddy of journalism when it was first perpetrated upon the public last October, but now that I have truly lost all hope that Ms. Couric will make a significant contribution to resoring integrity to her field. It was totally disgraceful in the obvious desire to assault the Wilson character.

The administration had the responsibility and obligation to filter out partisanship, so that war would turn into a reckless endeavor... and they blew it.

Now a whole ''nother generation will be paying the price and only half the country REALLY cares.
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by hofkurz August 18, 2008 4:38 AM EDT
All these journalists need lessons in Questions 101. I haven''t seen a good interview on CBS in years.

Guess the puppet master had to cover his tracks to save Shrub.
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by dafesq August 18, 2008 3:32 AM EDT
Could Katie Couric''s interview of Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson possibly been more insipid? She seemed bewildered that they would still be "seething" after their very lives were put into jeopardy by members of the Bush administration. She says she knows that neither Karl Rove nor Scooter Libby''s spouses are CIA agents and implies Plame was fair game. Finally Katie doesn''t respond to Bush''s failure to keep his promise to fire anyone found to be responsible for the leak. Katie may be cute, but a responsible journalist? The first thing a real journalist would do would be to drop "Katie" for something a little more grownup.
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by kesac4650 August 18, 2008 3:16 AM EDT
The CIA had already given up Plame''s name to Cuba, Russia, et al, 5-10 years back. But of course she can gloss over that. British Intelligence continued to speak of other documents than the Italian forgeries connecting Iraq and Niger, well after Joe Wilson''s article. Why does she gloss over that? Joe Wilson said, "I was sent by the Vice President", which raised the question of the White House, of "who is this guy"? The White House didn''t know and literally had to find out, who this guy was, that was using the White House as a front.
Now they want to cry foul because the White House answered the very question Wilson and Plame raised in the Press. That is called being disengenuous. That means, intentionally decietful.
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by August 18, 2008 2:52 AM EDT
Ditto on Couric! She is an idiot to beleive a c arefully laid out lie from PLAME. Plame knows that she will not be contrdicted by her employer, at least in her lifetime.
She and her husband were out to get Bush by trying to curry favor by suposedly outing a "Bush" lie regarding the attempt by Saadam to accumulate yellow cake. CBS tries to make Mr. Plame important and convincing by referring to him as an ambassador, nothing could be further from the truth! Mr. Plame was given the duties as a temporary replacement for an abscent ambassador, but NEVER given the official title. My understanding is that he talked too much and was concidered to not be "to bright". This is the guy that CBS would have yob elieve is the hero od "yellow" gate. Wake up people, CBS had to throw Rather under the bus because Rather dug his grave too deep! CBS can''t stand another embarassment named Plame. As long as it can''t be proved that Ms Plame was part of the team to embarass Bush, CBS will keep bringing the story up. After all, they stand to make money on the specious book by Ms Plame!
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