Housing Jitters Grow

Stocks Slip After Bernanke, Paulson Express Concerns About Housing Slump

(CBS/AP)  Wall Street sank for a second straight session Tuesday after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said the slumping housing market remains a “significant drag” on the economy.

Bernanke's speech Monday night in New York elevated concerns that the summer's credit tightness might persist into the winter - a sobering thought for investors, who are sifting through mixed third-quarter earnings and watching energy costs rise.

“First of all, the worry is we're getting more bad news on housing. No. 2 is higher oil prices. That's a pretty bad combination,” said Hugh Johnson, chief investment officer of Johnson Illington Advisors.

Crude oil prices spiked to another record above $88, and a National Association of Home Builders' index that tracks developers' expectations of future home sales fell for the eighth consecutive month to the lowest point since January 1985.

Also Tuesday, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson echoed Bernanke's concerns.

"Let me be clear, despite strong economic fundamentals, the housing decline is still unfolding and I view it as the most significant current risk to our economy," he said.

The ensuing uncertainty on Wall Street about the economic outlook “comes at a time when earnings results are not particularly exciting - in fact, are dismal,” Johnson said.

The administration’s main solution to the housing decline is to pressure the nation's mortgage lenders to ease up on foreclosures, reports CBS News correspondent Wyatt Andrews.

The initiative, called Hope Now, hopes to find the estimated 1 million or so homeowners facing sharp increases in their adjustable rate mortgages.

Ray Dawkins is one such homeowner. A community group called Acorn is pushing Dawkins' lender to refinance.

“It’s scary to think what will happen,” said Dawkins. “The ultimate thing that will happen is foreclosure.”

Under Hope Now, 13 of the nation's largest lenders have agreed to try refinancing instead of foreclosures, reports Andrews.

“With a refinancing program we'll have fewer houses for sale,” said Peter Morici, a business professor at the University of Maryland. “That'll put a floor under the housing market, where it should be, and restore confidence in the values of people's homes.”

Meanwhile, a day after Citigroup Inc. reported a steep third-quarter profit decline and announced plans with a consortium of banks to set up a fund to help bail out the credit markets, two more banks released disappointing results.

Wells Fargo & Co. shares fell 4 percent after the bank said third-quarter earnings increased by less than analysts anticipated and that it boosted loan loss reserves in preparation for more problems in consumer credit. KeyCorp shares declined nearly 6 percent after the Midwest regional bank posted a 33 percent drop in third-quarter profit.

According to preliminary calculations, the Dow Jones industrial average fell 71.86, or 0.51 percent, to 13,912.94, after falling more than 100 points earlier in the session.

Broader indicators also declined. The Standard & Poor's 500 index slid 10.18, or 0.66 percent, to 1,538.53, and the Nasdaq composite index dipped 16.14, or 0.58 percent, to 2,763.91.

Bond prices rose as investors pulled money out of stocks. The yield on the 10-year Treasury note, which moves inversely to the price, fell to 4.66 percent from 4.68 percent at Monday's close.

The dollar rose against most currencies. Gold also rose.

On Monday, the Dow and the S&P posted their biggest point drops in five weeks; just last week, the two indexes had touched record highs.

“The relief rally that we've enjoyed since Aug. 16, the day before the Fed cut the discount rate, has been an impressive one. And it will probably still push stock prices higher the rest of the year,” said Edward Yardeni, an economist who runs Yardeni Research in Great Neck, N.Y.

But, he added, “the first batch of earnings news for the third quarter gives some reason for concern, particularly for the banks, who are probably going to continue to have problems with their own portfolios.”

Bernanke said Monday night the deepening housing slump will probably keep dragging on economic growth, but he again pledged to “act as needed” to help financial markets that seized up this summer. He also said inflation remains in check - which could convince policymakers to cut interest rates for the second month in a row at their Oct. 30-31 meeting.

But while core inflation - which excludes volatile food and energy prices - is mild, oil prices are pushing further into uncharted territory on speculation about supply disruptions.

Crude futures rose $1.48 to a record close of $87.61 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, after briefly surpassing $88.

Declining issues outnumbered advancers by about 8 to 3 on the New York Stock Exchange. Volume came to 1.29 million shares.

Most financial and housing-related stocks fell, as did retailers.

A couple bright spots in the financial sector were State Street Corp., a trust bank that posted a profit rise of 29 percent on strong revenue from servicing fees and trading services, and Bear Stearns Cos. A bank owned by the investment arm of China's cabinet is planning a bid for a stake in the brokerage.

State Street rose $5.75, or 8.3 percent, to $74.68.

Bear Stearns rose $2.36, or 2 percent, to $123.05.

Overseas, Japan's Nikkei stock average fell 1.27 percent and Hong Kong's Hang Seng index fell 1.98 percent. Britain's FTSE 100 fell 0.45 percent, Germany's DAX index fell 0.09 percent, and France's CAC-40 fell 0.57 percent.

[drivelphobe]

Let''s hope there are more legs to this housing disaster. Everyone involved in the mortgage and refinance arena, the house flippers and the scumbag rogue builders, need to go down in flames. Let the chips fall where they may. It is absolutely a joke when housing costs are so out of line with incomes.

A good recession is the result of the out-of control abuses by Cities, allowing anything to be built regardless of codes and neighborhood character. The Building and Safety departments, under direction of the City Councils and Mayors, have had a hands-off postion with regards to enforcement of codes, allowing disastrous violations, agreeing to multiple variance requests, while groveling for fees and increased taxes. Add this to the ridiculous monetary policy of Greenspan, financial disaster is imminent.

[fascistusa]

Blah blah blah. Our economy is a joke. It''s backed by NOTHING.

A house of cards set to fall.

The elite are looting the Country. Endless Wars. Fascism. Fake News.

Take it all and leave, Elitists. Take it ALL.

[antoniof123]

So what else is new this is the new world order that we live in the rich just get richer at the expense of the middle and poor. Keep up the good work boys it you are doing a good job.

[newsreader2]

What a disaster.

[tomar0317]

What''s terriffic is that we''re still allowing the rich to get richer using illigal means I believe. I have no problem with honest work paying dividends to all that participate. However, our money is still being spent outside our own country to develope other countries when in fact, America is hurting. Let''s keep our money here, where it belongs. Once we can afford to help others, then we can.

[missingamerica]

Housing is just a symptom.

[tnt1954]

just build low cost housing. with illegal alien
slave labor. we should all get our 20 x 20 foot
room with attatched bath. cafeteria downstairs.
and low-cost pork and beans. lol.

[logicanada]

As long as your federal reserve is owned by private shareholders it will remain neither federal, nor a reserve. The amount of interest paid to these fed. owners on the national debt is staggering. Printing more useless paper markers and generating capital through debt is leading to a depression of severe magnitude.You are currently re-experiencing the ''roaring twenties''. The ''dirty thirties'' are just around the corner.

[gretagreen]

Dear stopiraq: Your passion for Ron Paul is commendable but to keep posting off-topic about him is rather irritating. I did check him out and found out he wants to enact a statute making abortion illegal, and stronger protection for privacy rights. Sounds a bit whacko to me.

[rudy2281]

Couric and friends will try to convince everyone that the sky is falling, again, given a normal dip in the stock market. She''ll fail, again, to remind everyone that the DJIA, S&P, Nasdaq are running 10%+ YTD which is fine for investors who are not trying to be overnight Donald Trumps.

As for gretagreen''s comment about Ron Paul; he doesn''t have a snowball''s chance however, his anti abortion stance makes him much different than the Heinrich Himmler crowd who think nothing of murdering a million plus babies every year.

[downtowner97]

Where''s all that cheap Iraqi oil we were supposed to get? Oh yeah, that''s right. The powers that be own US oil too, so they want to keep prices high.

[whatithink-2009]

downtowner97,

I wonder how long it will take before the Fox propaganda watching, so-called Christian conservatives realize that our nation was better off when our politicians focused on the economy instead of the bedroom.

[whatithink-2009]

jh6379,

The middle class was instrumental in ignoring the poor and letting the rich get away with murder because they hoped one day to be rich as well. Now, I think, the chicken are coming home to roost and the middle class is starting to realize that the road to poverty is a much shorter one than the road to riches.

[micma-2009]

No worries. We''ll just borrow more money from China and everything will be just fine.

[ron4691]

Can any segment of the economy be removed from the rest? Local taxes are based on the price of the home. The government will do anything to stop the fall in housing prices, because it hits them in the pocket. How many people''s are keeping up with this lop-sided deal?

[hypnotoad72]

And job figures. Maybe it''d help if fewer jobs were terminated or offshored, at least for a few months?

Plus, who''s ignoring the middle class? It''s clear Chinese and Indian H1B middle class citizens aren''t feeling pressured to get educated. They seem to be rolling in an optimistic future. (Now look at the quality of goods and services produced and wonder why the heck the practice of offshoring continues...)

[mediapreachr]

Not to worry,when we get an earthquake or other emergencies we know where the money is.
As good citizens,the ultra rich will step in and save us all.

[tylenol6]

Did everyone know BLACKWATER IS TRAINING THE POLICE IN
THE UNITED STATES....................

[usayesterday]

All those big ticket items purchased over the past few Christmas shopping seasons, (consumer electronics, cars, high-end jewelry, lavish vacations), will all come to a halt with fewer people able to use their home equity credit to purchase such items.

Those holiday gift budgets will be siphoned in order to pay for the higher heating/utility bills as well as the much higher mortgage payments, as well as the continuously skyrocketing health care premiums.

Add in a planned attack/war on Iran, a falling U.S. dollar, a skyrocketing national debt, and the "Great Depression" of the 21st century will be coming soon.

Very soon.

[shanev137]

You''d think with oil approaching $100 a barrel it would be cost effective to drill for it in your own backyard.

[vancouverboo]

Time to bail out the housing speculators. Amazing. How many times can you prime the pump before even that doesn''t work? Cheaper credit is devastating the dollar and that is reflected in the higher oil prices. The producers need more dollars, in which oil is priced, to end up with the same amount of a strong currency like Euros or Yens.

[tburzio]

RON PAUL SUPPORT UP 25%!!!

Yes, a fourth person has joined the Ron Paul bandwagon!

[mcv57]

You folks know that this housing market collapse is small part of the oncoming financial meltdown. Unemployment and inflation is the hidden agenda behind this debacle. For the U.S. corrupt regime to blame the housing market is just passive propaganda to let the public know the imminent depression effects are starting to set in (it is not going away). Despite the federal government''s attempt to prop-up Wall Street withworthless U.S. currenency, the Wall Street continues to reveal instability and collapse (worthless money does not care much respect). Some states'' economic infrastruture has already experienced ills. The truth continues to be buried in a mountain of U.S. government deceit and deceptiont.

[mcv57]

Ha,Ha, ha,ha, ha, that was a good one mediapreachr. Just as the rich in Germany hired Hitler to save there wealth. You should get an education in history.

[ohiochili]

I work for one of the biggest home mortgage companies in the US. I work 8-10 hours every day reaching out to homeowners who are close to foreclosure. I interview them, take their personal financial info to try to make repayment arrangements to save their homes. These are PRIME mortgages. I find that most of the borrowers who have not made payments for 4 to 8 months or more in default were (and still are) spending way beyond their incomes. They got second mortgages and lines of credit on these homes to pay for improvements, vacations, whatever. The kids are in private schools and car payments are astronomical. Cable and cell phones are more important than their homes. Some did lose jobs, or had a serious illness that caused them to lose income. These people are usually the ones who turn off the cell phones and cable, start eating hot dogs and ramen noodles so they can make payments. Some talk to me and work with me. We don''t foreclose if they can make 1 payment plus a little extra every month. I ask them what caused them to fall behind on their payments- more often than not, the answer is my air conditioner went out,we replaced the windows, etc. In my humble opinion, if you don''t have enough to replace your roof and make your mortgage payment, you have no business buying that house. We made a lot of mistakes in the housing boom way back when. We made big house loans to marginal income people. Americans want it all right now and found too many lenders willing to give it to us.

[AgentGGG]

We need to realize that the reason the middle class is disappearing, is that we have inflation but wage stagnation. For those of you who still believe that middle-class is $60-70k per year, get over it. It takes $100k income in this country to raise a family with a decent standard of living, not extravagant, but decent. Until we accept that as a nation, and as employees, we will be selling ourselves too short, and buying in to the self-destructive mindset that labor is a commodity and that profits get shared by all. It ain''t so, don''t let your labor be a commodity, for you ain''t gettin'' none of the profit pie.

[tylenol6]

VOTE RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT.....The rest of the presidential candidates are all SCUM. Anyone who does
vote for Hitlery is a complete moron.

[condumism]

Posted by tylenol6
Anyone who does vote for Hitlery is a complete moron.

Your Repiglicon candidate will always be a Repiglicon, thus ZERO CHANCE of ever becoming president of the Fascist States of America.

Hitlery? Sounds similar to Hitler. Any other reason why you would compare a democrat to a Nazi? Or are you now just name calling because your desperate rant for Ron Pauls failed candadicy has proven ypu to be an extremist jinGOpig? How bout you dont vote, and instead, moveon? Too funny!

[condumism]

Posted by ohiochili at 07:47 PM : Oct 16, 2007

In my humble opinion, if you dont have enough to replace your roof and make your mortgage payment, you have no business buying that house.

Do you support a bailout of the US banking industry because of Alan Greenspans bad decisions to reduce interest rates to 0.5% ? It seems to me that your mortgage businesses bad decisions to loan money to idiots is why the US housing market is in such dire straits. I hate Corporate America, or US capitalism as we now know it! Greed always ends up costing all of US for in a federally mandated bailout for few bad business decisions. I say: EATSHIT MOPRTGAGE COMPANIES!

[neobrian-2009]

If you own a small business,one of your main customers could kill your finances,..Maybe they write you a bad check ,...or go bankrupt or are very slow-paying,..What happens to your finances then ?You people who are So Quick to judge should consider that not all people are in financial trouble ,because they took out loans they could not afford.There`s many factors here,...truckers are bearing the brunt of high fuel,..small business people are Not getting paid.
Some of you think you know everything,..start calling others names,when actually you don`t have a clue of what`s going on in the real world.

[mcv57]

Since the end of the Gold Standard, there was nothing the Government held value to the U.S. dollar. Realtors and morgage companies would have you believe to invest land and houses to create wealth, but that was a lie. The real truth: the value of the dollar was staring you right in the face, but you keep pump it in your SUV - as the dollar goes down; the price of oil goes up!

[rev0lution]

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[condumism]

Year 2000: 1 US dollar = .90 Euro
Year 2007: 1 US dollar = 1.41 Euro

The difference in exchange rates in 7 years is that the dollar is now backed by DEBT! NO ASSETS! Just US CORPORATE AMERICA LIES, and nothing more!

[dubephnx]

Which costs more; A defaulted mortgage picked up by the next buyer, or a defaulted mortgage because the home was destroyed by fire, tornado, hurricane, earthquake, terrorist attack, flooding , tsunamis, etc? Someone has to pay for the rebuild, and that costs a lot of money, that lenders and investors lose on twice! One building collapse takes about 5,000 new building loans to make up the difference.

Lets get to the core problems and address what is making lenders, insurers, economists, building owners and residents lose trust in this market! All buildings, from homes to highrises, are suppose to last a 100 years, and hurricane Katrina and other disasters have proven to the public majority that they don''t last that long!

[ubrew12]

Recessions always start with the poor and middle-class, and end with the poor and middle-class.

The rich suffer the least from recessions. But the suffering of those just entering the housing market is a harbinger of a true recession. I hope it hits before Bush leaves office so we know who to assign blame to.

[danstoned]

VOTE with yer head up urASS:

VOTE jinGOPig: americas false hope?

[mediapreachr]

Anyone here watch The Tonight Show?
Some jokes for the emerging brave new US economy:
-best new jobs-Repo man.
-worst job-mortgage loan consultant.
What''s coming is pretty bad so you have two basic choices,make fun about your situation or,as the french says "sauve qui peut".