BAGHDAD, Oct. 15, 2007
Turks Bombard Northern Iraq
Amid Rising Tensions, Turkish Government Asks Approval For Iraq Incursion
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Military trucks carry tanks toward Sirnak near the Turkish-Iraq border, Tuesday, Oct. 9, 2007. The Turkish government is seeking parliamentary approval for a military operation against Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq. (AP)
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Iraqi army Col. Hussein Rashid of the border guard forces said Turkish troops fired more than 250 artillery shells and at least 10 missiles on three areas inside Iraqi territory late Saturday. But, he said, the shelling caused no casualties or damages as it hit only abandoned areas in the mountains.
AP Television News footage shot from the village of Inshki, 20 miles from the Turkish border, showed a hillside dotted with balls of fire, terrifying residents below.
"We condemn the Turkish bombardment of Kurdish areas," Salih Kaka Ameen told APTN in Irbil, a city in the Kurdish-controlled north 217 miles north of Baghdad. "We demand that American intervene to put an end to this crisis."
The Turkish military said Saturday that its troops have heavily responded to armed attacks from northern Iraq and will continue to do so but did not give details.
The Turkish government, meanwhile, decided to send a motion to Parliament seeking approval for a military operation against Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq, a government spokesman said.
The spokesman, Cemil Cicek, said he hoped Parliament would vote on the motion this week - passage is considered likely - but indicated that the government would still prefer a solution to the conflict that did not involve a cross-border offensive.
Cicek said any military operation would target the rebel Kurdistan Workers' Party, known by its Kurdish acronym PKK. The statement appeared to be aimed at reassuring Iraq's central government as well as Iraqi Kurds, who run their own administration in northern Iraq.
U.S. officials have urged NATO-ally Turkey not to send troops and appealed for a diplomatic solution with Iraq. The Kurdish self-rule region in northern Iraq is one of the country's few relatively stable areas and the Kurds also are a longtime U.S. ally.
A spokesman for the autonomous Kurdish region in northern Iraq declined to comment.
"We are waiting the Turkish parliamentary authorization for a cross-border offensive against Kurdish rebels in Iraq and then we will announce our official stance," Jamal Abdul Rahman said.
During the 1990s, Turkish troops penetrated Iraqi territory several times, sometimes with as many as 50,000 troops. The Turkish forces withdrew, leaving behind about 2,000 soldiers who remain to monitor rebel activities. Ankara rotates the troops there time to time, but it has not sent reinforcements. A tank battalion has been stationed at a former airport at the border town of Bamerni.
The separatist rebels have been fighting the Turkish government since 1984 in a conflict that has claimed tens of thousands of lives.
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See all 57 CommentsThe Kurds and their oil deal is similar, although I don''t think either the Kurds or Alaskan oil deals are fair.
Didn''t we fly out of Turkey to help protect these same people???? What gives with Turkey? Are they power crazed somehow? Do they desire Putin to come in and take them over?
Has the world gone crazy??? Yes it has.
Turkey got us out of the way so they could do this, how ignorant is this.
- Posted by tburzio at 04:35 PM : Oct 15, 2007
This skirmish ? The Turks don"t even have nukes.
When Nancy Pelosi gets us in a shooting war with China, get back to us.
And if we"re going to sweep the Armenian GENOCIDE at the hands of the Turks -- if we are going to sweep that under the carpet to please them, then lets avoid all future mention of Saddam Hussein''s gassing of the Kurds.
Lets at least avoid that hypocrisy.
Essentially the same "New Turks" are running that country, as those who committed the genocide. Not the same individuals, but the same group.
It"s as if the Nazis were still in power in Germany. We wouldn"t be appeasing THEM, would we ?
We shouldn"t be appeasing these Turks.
That"s why they"re acting so defensive about it.
In Germany, the Nazi party is long gone, except for a few scattered nutcases. That"s why Germany has never registered a protest about Congressional resolutions commemorating the Holocaust.
There"s an old proverb: "He wo excuses himself, accuses himself."
The Turks" defensiveness about the Resolution, further confirms their guilt.
The Turks are doing both.
The impact of the Young Turks on shaping the official ideology of early modern Turkey went far beyond the political changes they effected.
"The Three Pashas" (Mehmed Talat Pasha, Ismail Enver and Ahmed Djemal) of the Young Turks ruled the Ottoman Empire from the Coup of 1913 until the end of World War I. The Young Turks were responsible for orchestrating the Armenian Genocide as well as the Assyrian Genocide."
Source: Wikipedia
In total, 750,000 Assyrians were killed at the hands of the Ottoman Turks, aided by the Kurds.
(The Kurds also joyously participated in the Armenian Genocide.)
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_Genocide
Posted by notblue at 04:31 PM : Oct 15, 2007
Let''s forget about the Holocaust too.
That"s a phony issue.
If the Nazis were still in power in Germany, notblue would be all for appeasing them as "allies in the war on terror."
No question about it.
The Turks" defensiveness about the Resolution, further confirms their guilt"--Posted by Iceman_1960
There''s another old proverb that says:
"No grass grows in the footprint of the Turk."
No doubt a reference to the enlighted benevolent administration of the Ottoman Empire. But, by contrast with Bushit, they don''t look too bad.
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Posted by tburzio at 04:35 PM : Oct 15, 2007
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LOL So you are saying pointing out the fact that almost 100 years ago a country committed a horrible act is the cause for the Turks invading Iraq? Now you poor people have been suckers for some of the most rediculous lies and have been used by the Republican Party in the same way hookers are used on the corner, that''s obvious, but this? I mean you honestly CAN''T be that stupid.... Can you?
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Posted by vet999999 at 06:04 PM : Oct 15, 2007
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This is just a little to desperate and a little to obvious!! LMAO Anyone who thinks that passing a non binding resolution on an act nearly 100 years ago cause this blunder that is Iraq, needs SERIOUS help!! LMAO
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Posted by vet999999 at 06:04 PM : Oct 15, 2007
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ROFLMAO They say wearing a Swastika makes you stupid... just how many do you have on Sparky?? ROFLMAO You pathetic losers just keep lapping up the Kool Aid as the Reich hands it out don''t you? ROFLMAO An ALLY of ours get''s so upset at our congress passing a NON BINDING resolution they attack a Nation WE are suppose to be protecting? They use that Non Binding Resolution as JUSTIFICATION for that attack? Honestly you poor fools are so far gone, so hung up on your cult, you are just a joke anymore!! YOUR A JOKE!! ROFLMAO Sieg Heil Bush!!!
why is forked tongue Bush not preventing the Turks from doing the same?
Because he, and those who follow him never did care about the humane aspects of events, they only bring it up as twisted justification for them doing the same.
To McVet, while you are quite correct about most of your post, this is not about religion, it is simply a power play. All sides are using religion to justify a claim of right to do what they are doing, but religion itself is not the cause.
Many have commented and Posted their displeasure with this Ron Paul spamming in these BLOGS! Instead of helping Ron Paul, you are actually hurting him, you are turning people who may have otherwise seriously considered Ron Paul against him! Whatever you think you are doing to help Mr. Paul its backfiring!
In this case, Turkey has been more then restrained and has held back while the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party) have launched attacks against their territory and killed civilians and soldiers.
Once again, GW Bush proves that his own excuses to wage war don''t really hold up.
GW Bush''s "pre-emptive" policy apparently only allows the United States and Israel to strike first.
More Bushit.
The only NAZIS on board are you and your fellow nutcase goosesteppers from MoveOn.Org and the Democratic Hitlerjugend.
How do you love your Lantos and Pelosi now? Because of their stupidity in condemning Turkey now, instead of in saner times, we will face problems in Northern Iraq - a stable area until now. But demonstrate your stupidity, you Neo-Nazi a$$ and blame Bush.
Granted, I know about the Armenian massacres - America has known it for 100 years and Turkey should justly be condemned. But why now?
Because the Hitlerite fringe of the Democratic Party -Pelosi and her cohorts and a few blithering fools like Lantos and Waxman who should know better need to show MoveOn.Org that they deserve their paychecks.
Lantos as a Holocaust survivor might have some justification in blasting the Turks - but again why now. And where is he in the face of the blatant anti-Semitism of Jim Moran and of those in MoveOn.Org?
McDooDoo aka Dazz is a typical foulmouthed ignorant Left coward - he''d be equally at home in white sheets. Just like Pelosi and her friends Moran and KKK Byrd.
Fine, so do I.
But look - like a typical Nazi anal retentive he quickly jumps on Israel. That''s the Left for you, they''re the new Nazis. If they did tell the truth and were angry at Turkey, they would have gone after the Turks 25, 50, 75 years ago over Armenia. But no, because they want Al Qaeda and the Iranians to win, it has got to be now.
So a stable Kurdistan has to go - and we have to offend the Turks because non-serving cowards and traitors and their Nazi allies in MoveOn.Org and elsewhere say so. Nice. So when will cowards, traitors, and Nazis like McDazz serve - NEVER - except for Al Qaeda, Hizbullah and Hamas.
correct - the signal was clear if you sense a threat, any threat, you have the right to launch agressive pre-emptive war. israel did it to Lebanon, destroying the whole country, killing thousands, mostly innocent citizens, for a couple of kidnapped soldiers.
get used to the new bush world where the "strong", with God and their principles behind them, take us back to the stone age.
get used to the new bush world where the "strong", with God and their principles behind them, take us back to the stone age.
Posted by neoconRcrazy at 04:15 AM : Oct 16, 2007
Israel didn''t kill thousands of civilians, you''re lying. Everyone one in the terrorist organization called Hizbolah is a civilian when they are dead.
Posted by SendReidPelo at 02:54 AM : Oct 16, 2007
Quit trying to hide behind the medal gonging, who knows you might be another Jesse Macbeth.
Posted by jowand
tell that to the civilian survivors of the town of Qana - tell it to the parents of the dead and mutilated children, victims till today of our cluster bombs spread out over nothern Lebanon by israel -
no, it you who are lying - why? because why was done is morally indefensible.
The death knell of your ethics has been enabled by your parent organizations who have chosen to align themselves with political agendas. What is clear to me is that you are perpetuating the corrosive partisan politics that is destroying our country and killing our service members who are at war.
http://www.militaryreporters.org/sanchez_101207.html
Sanchez Blasts Media, But Media Only Highlight His Criticism of Bush
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2007/10/15/sanchez-blasts-media-media-only-highlight-his-criticism-bush
Sanchez Assaults Drive-By Media
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_101507/content/01125112.guest.html
Retired general issues sharply worded rebuke of ''unscrupulous reporting''
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/10/retired-general.html
Sanchez: Media''s Reporting of Iraq War Endangered Soldiers'' Lives
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301676,00.html
Posted by jowand at 06:04 AM : Oct 16, 2007
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Say Sparky you have never answered my question. You spew hatred at our free press constantly but you have NEVER yet told me or the rest of us who what to keep our press free and out of the control of the Reich, who should determine what they do and do not print. Could you answer that question for us?
Now as to the No Binding Resolution passed by the house of representatives, EXACTLY how is that Ms. Polosi''s Resolution? You have been licking the Reich''s BOOTS so long you have totally lost it. MOST intelligent people KNOW that Turkey and the Kurds have been figthing each other for thousands of years and that Turkey was only looking for an excuse. It it wasn''t the Resolution it would have been something else. This to was something those bad old "Liberals" warned that pathtetic loser you call a president about before he invaded. Sieg Heil Bush!!
How do you love your Lantos and Pelosi now? Because of their stupidity in condemning Turkey now, instead of in saner times, we will face problems in Northern Iraq - a stable area until now. But demonstrate your stupidity, you Neo-Nazi a$$ and blame Bush.
Granted, I know about the Armenian massacres - America has known it for 100 years and Turkey should justly be condemned. But why now?
Because the Hitlerite fringe of the Democratic Party -Pelosi and her cohorts and a few blithering fools like Lantos and Waxman who should know better need to show MoveOn.Org that they deserve their paychecks.
Lantos as a Holocaust survivor might have some justification in blasting the Turks - but again why now. And where is he in the face of the blatant anti-Semitism of Jim Moran and of those in MoveOn.Org?
McDooDoo aka Dazz is a typical foulmouthed ignorant Left coward - he''''d be equally at home in white sheets. Just like Pelosi and her friends Moran and KKK Byrd.
Posted by SendReidPelo at 02:50 AM : Oct 16, 2007
Wow! It''s tough being a Nazi these days isn''t it? ROFLMAO Someone tells the truth and you freaks go off the deep end. By the way Swastika Breath over 80% of the German people AGREE that you folks are fascist... but hey what would they know about them huh? ROFLMAO Sieg Heil Y''all.
So a stable Kurdistan has to go - and we have to offend the Turks because non-serving cowards and traitors and their Nazi allies in MoveOn.Org and elsewhere say so. Nice. So when will cowards, traitors, and Nazis like McDazz serve - NEVER - except for Al Qaeda, Hizbullah and Hamas.
Posted by SendReidPelo at 02:54 AM : Oct 16, 2007
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Excuse me Swastika Breath but EVERY 4th Grade Student KNOWS that Nazi''s are RADICAL RIGHT WINGERS!! As for the rest of your rant, it makes no sense. You just sling hatred at people for doing what they think is right... for pointing our a wrong committed almost 100 years ago. Why don''t you address the REAL issue here, because the Turks and Kerds have been fighting now of thousands of years. The REAL issue you need to address it the FACT that that LOSER you call a President was WARNED about this BEFORE he invaded. To imply that OUR Congress should be under the control of another country is REDICULOUS and VERY dangerous. Sieg Heil Bush!! ROFLMAO You aren''t the sharpest tool in the old shed there now are ya? ROFLMAO
Vote for me, vote for me, vote for me and this will all go away. The land of milk and honey again.....
Just dont trick me ok?
no, it you who are lying - why? because why was done is morally indefensible.
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Posted by neoconRcrazy at 06:09 AM : Oct 16, 2007
You''re still lying
Posted by MCVet at 07:20 AM : Oct 16, 2007
Mornin Sparkless, did you salute you''re here Hiltler and give him a big ZIG HELL from all of you nazi loving Yellow Dog Progressives.
Turkey hasn''t existed for thousands of years, it was Muslims who killed the Armenians. The new secular goverment in Turkey wasn''t around in 1915, Pelosi is a maniacal stupid idiot who is just trying to spin Iraq into a defeat for the US even if it causes a lot of US troops to get killed. You Yellow Dog Progressives are just a bunch of political pimps and ******, moveon.o-r-g-a-s-m is your church of hate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qana_Massacre
Posted by jowand at 08:18 AM : Oct 16, 2007
jowand said : "The new secular goverment in Turkey wasn''t around in 1915"
Then they have NOTHING to complain about - do they ?
How''s Hitler this morning. Guess you would know, since you and the rest of the Lefty Sieg Heilers are out in force. Jowand is absolutely correct. It was the OTTOMAN Turks who slaughtered the Armenians - not the Ataturk or post governments. But to idiots like yourself and Pelosi, and NeoNazisRCrazy,you blame Turkey because it is AN AMERICAN Ally - and yes, friendly to Israel - whom you Neo-Hitlerites of the Left try to compare to your own twisted hate.
McVet, McBozo, Vet71 - you''re all the same. And I really doubt YOU ARE A VET or ever served this country. If so, your brains are fried on that dope you smoked.
The Democratic Party is the party that gives aid and comfort to Anti-Semitism. Ask Carter, Ask Sharpton, Ask KKK Byrd, Ask Jim Moran, Ask Cindy McKinney, and a host of other bigots whom MoveOn.Org has sent checks to. But don''t tell the real idiots like Lantos and Waxman who in betraying Turkey and ignoring the hate betray themselves too.
The Dems claim to "support" the troops - well, thanks to the stupidity of Pelosi and Lantos they''ve just endangered them further - and still the nuts like NeoNazisRCrazy and Vetbozo goosestep merrily along. Oh what a circus.
The Armenian Genocide is widely acknowledged to have been one of the first modern, systematic genocides, as many Western sources point to the sheer scale of the death toll as evidence for a systematic, organized plan to eliminate the Armenians. The event is also said to be the second-most studied case of genocide after the Nazi Holocaust. To date twenty-two countries have officially recognized it as genocide. The government of the Republic of Turkey rejects the characterization of the events as genocide.
Wikipedia
- Posted by terrorislam1 at 06:37 AM : Oct 16, 2007
It is the foolish war that has done that.
The foolish war itself, the foolish "plan" for the war, the foolish lack of preparation, and the foolish stubbornness in keeping it going just to protect Bush"s reputation, are what has not only endangered soldiers lives, but actually killed and maimed scores of thousands of them.
Not the "Media"s reporting"
- Posted by SendReidPelo at 02:50 AM : Oct 16, 2007
The German crimes of the 20th century should be justly condemned, but why now ?
Don"t you know that Germany is an important ally in Afghanistan ? That Germany recently broke up a big terrorist plot ?
Why risk alienating Germany now ?
Why now ?
Any time is a good time to condemn SendReidPelo"s genocidal drug cartel buddies in Turkey.
If the Nazi"s were still in power in Germany, no matter how SendReidPelo cried that they were allies in the war on terror, that we should make nice with them to avoid risking U.S. soldiers" lives, that we should appease them, I would still be in favor of condemning them.
You just stepped on your own butt and you don''t even get it, do you?
Since Lantos and Pelosi were SOOOOOOOOO eager to condemn Turkey, they should have added Germany in there. And while at it, add their friend Ahmedinejedad, add the Khmer government, McBozo''s friends in Hanoi, the Imperial Court of Japan, Putin, and yes, their other friends Kim and Castro in the mix.
But since we''re talking about American allies - let''s just make it Turkey and Germany for now.
Now, doesn''t that make you feel better, bozo? But while you''re at it, you had better drag Lantos'' friend Soros out to the nearest lamppost and hang him and KKK Byrd together. Because Soros was a NAZI collaborator.
Guess you''re going to think about that too, huh boy?
The Democrats - They support the troops - Al Qaeda and Iran''s.
After all, if you don''t, Jimmy Carter might get upset. So will Jim Moran, Pelosi''s drunken john.
And so will the other Hamas symps of MoveOn.Org and Boy Obama - after all, Israel gets lumped in there, courtesy of those fellow Dems Lantos, Waxman, Wexler and the guy who looks like the hapless jerk lawyer on Law and Order SVU, oh, yeah, Charlie Schumer aka Schmucker convienently ignore.
After all, when there''s Neo-Nazis in your own party, (Carter, Byrd, Moran, Sharpton)its best to ignore them and go after Conservative Talk Radio guys.
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