Blackwater: Protection At Any Cost

Americans In Iraq Once Guarded By Contractors Tell Stories Of Purpose And Pain

(CBS)  The burned cars and charred bodies in Nisour Square last month shook loose some painful memories for Adam Hobson.

In 2005, he was working as a political aide in Baghdad, when a Blackwater guard in his convoy killed a young Iraqi.

"It's by far the worst thing that's ever happened to me," he told CBS News correspondent Elizabeth Palmer. "It wasn't until I got back to the embassy that I found out that car had been full of Iraqi civilians and that someone had died."

In Nisour Square a month ago, 17 more died in a hail of Blackwater bullets. Hassan Jabbar, a lawyer, was almost one of them, shot in the back as he tried to escape.

Now - a month later - his body is healing, but his faith in America is broken.

"They pretend it's democracy," he weeps. "But they're killing people."

Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater U.S.A., told CBS News chief foreign correspondent Lara Logan, in an interview to air on 60 Minutes, that he welcomes any additional oversight the U.S. government would impose on his armed guards, and that he supports the prosecution of his men should any of them be found to have acted badly when they opened fire on a Baghdad street, resulting in 17 Iraqi deaths, and at least 24 others wounded.

“We absolutely want more oversight. We welcome the accountability. We want a good name for this industry,” Prince said, acknowledging that his and other private security companies operating in Iraq have acquired bad reputations. “I'm glad the FBI's investigating. I'm glad they can be a neutral party. And if there's further investigation or prosecution even needed, if someone really did wrong and meant badly, I'm all supportive,” he told Logan in an interview conducted Friday at Blackwater's North Carolina headquarters.

“Sure, you know, mistakes can be made. I'm not saying anyone, our guys, no one's perfect,” Prince tells Logan. “But bad things don't generally happen by themselves."

While a U.S. military report has concluded the Blackwater team was not fired upon in the incident at Nisour Square, Prince vigorously defended the training of his men and believes they acted according to the rules of engagement under which the U.S. military operates. He also says he has evidence they were fired upon: “The fact is three of our vehicles had pock marks in them from incident reports that I saw. So, clearly, our guys were not shooting at each other,” said Prince.

“Sure, you know, mistakes can be made. I'm not saying anyone, our guys, no one's perfect,” Prince tells Logan. “But bad things don't generally happen by themselves."

By now the worst Rambo-like excesses of Blackwater are staples on YouTube. By contrast, Adam Hobson says most of his guards were highly professional, but he says there should be some way of punishing those who commit crimes like murder.

"What incentive do they have to operate correctly when there is no oversight?" he asks. "I think that's what the real problem is."

Janessa Gans also spent time guarded by Blackwater as a diplomat in Iraq.

Now, back in the U.S. teaching at a college in Illinois, Gans tells her students that while she focused on building democracy, her Blackwater guards focused on protection - at any cost.

"It was a we're getting from point A to point B and nothing will stand in our way," Gans says. "And if anyone - if there's a hint of anyone approaching - we view that as a terrorist threat."

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More of Adam Hobson's story | More of Janessa Gans' story

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But when those terrorist threats turned out to be civilians - scared, hurt or even killed by Blackwater - she says it defeated the purpose of her mission.

"I think the overall purpose of my job in building bridges with the Iraqis and positively affecting their lives was hindered by some of the aggressive tactics and the stance that private security contractors such as Blackwater displayed," Gans says.

Adam Hobson agrees: "I went to a meeting and somebody died because of it, and it made the meetings in the future seem a lot less important."

Iraqis are hoping the victims of Nisour Square were the very last to die for the sake of American meetings.

[terrorislam1]

THE LIBERAL MAIN MEDIA AND DEMONIC-RAT BS PROPOGANDA MACHINE

The death knell of your ethics has been enabled by your parent organizations who have chosen to align themselves with political agendas. What is clear to me is that you are perpetuating the corrosive partisan politics that is destroying our country and killing our service members who are at war.
http://www.militaryreporters.org/sanchez_101207.html

Sanchez Blasts Media, But Media Only Highlight His Criticism of Bush
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2007/10/15/sanchez-blasts-media-media-only-highlight-his-criticism-bush

Sanchez Assaults Drive-By Media
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_101507/content/01125112.guest.html

Retired general issues sharply worded rebuke of ''unscrupulous reporting''
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/10/retired-general.html

Sanchez: Media''s Reporting of Iraq War Endangered Soldiers'' Lives
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301676,00.html

[andor3]

It is naive to pretend that Blackwater security is required by the situation in Iraq. Fact is, Blackwater security and other US policy *creates* the dangerous climate. intentionally. That has to be the goal because anyone who knows anything of history or occupation knows the violence and antagonism could easily be reduced by the US if they wanted to--and clearly they don''t want less violence.

Why? Because continued violence justifies continued occupation, which leads to continued profits for certain corporations and entities.

In a way it is hard to blame Blackwater for being such complete screw-ups, since that is their mission. On the other hand, it is a dream contractor job--to be paid to create the situation that will justify extending your contract longer.

[spike896]

incog-nito: Yeh, its all about the money but not an "inflated ego", we were just trying to survive each day, just like your Armed Forces, wherein the iraqi insurgents are trying to kill us. By the way, they are also trying to kill each other down there.

mc-dazz: I donot need your respect or anybody''s for being there. Its a job, why don''t you blame your politicians and their "interest". Thanks anyways, you are a professional like the Blackwater guys, right?

[my2cents6]

Blackwater USA is only doing the excellent job that it is contracted to do in Iraq. This is war. Civillians who are in a war torn country get killed as well as those in uniform. When children are carrying guns bigger than they are and know how to use them and women are strapped with bombs and sent out to kill in that manner people must kill or be killed. This is war and as horrible as it is.....anyone who is in the way of the war may be killed. For some reason all the military of the USA who have lost limbs or have given their life for those of us who are their mothers and/or wives or brothers and sisters so we can remain free. Freedom is not free and everyone needs to remember that first of all! Those who are employed by Blackwater USA are highly trained and previously in the military and put their life on the line every minute of every day to secure the life of another. Please remember this when you are casting stones about information that is not necessarily the truth when put out on the air waves or in the news papers. These are people trying to survive just like our military are trying to do. And all this is done to make this wonderful country, USA, continue to be free.

[patlynn1]

I am greatly disappointed in Lara Logan''s interview of Erick Prince. It was abundantly apparent that that she had not even skimmed Jeremy Scahill''s book on Blackwater. And to let pass Mr. Prince''s defense of "Prince has seen his own dead employees treated like trophies by terrorists. Four of them were killed, burned, mutilated and hanged in Fallujah in 2004" was reprehensible. Ask the families of the dead why they are sueing Blackwater for violating employee contracts. Please revisit Blackwater with more information.

[missingamerica]

Prince will probably be out of the office for the next few days attending the funeral of Bob Denard, who died Saturday.

[watcher269-2009]

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[watcher269-2009]

Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
~ Napoleon

Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.
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It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious, then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
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[watcher269-2009]

Man is certainly stark mad: he cannot make a worm, yet he will make gods by the dozen.
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Which is it, is man one of God''s blunders or is God one of man''s?
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Civil disobedience, that%u2019s not our problem. Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running the country. That''s our problem.
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They made a wasteland and called it peace.
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[watcher269-2009]

What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?
~ Mohandas Gandhi

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~ Stephen Roberts

[watcher269-2009]

Do Not Blame the Tools for their Handlers guidance! Bushit stated that the buck stops with him - I say it is time the People of America hold Bushit and Cheney accountable for their actions and charge them with the Treasonous Act that they have Flaunted since 2001! Let these Brave Soldiers be the riflemen in Bushit''s and Cheney''s firing Squad or better yet - hang them like Saddam!

Time to Setup Americans - Take your Country BACK!

[watcher269-2009]

I believe Erik Prince in his statements! These Men that work for Blackwater were in the Spec Forces and are Highly honorable Men! They may have performed Atrocities but they perform them under orders - they believe what they are told from their commanders - they are a Tool - you can''t blame the Tool for performing a job that the handler of that Tool uses it for purposes that the Tool was not intended for! I am a Staunch Liberal - However - I do believe in a Strong Military and that we need to Use that Military in a Correct manner.


The REAL issues here are the People that are being protected by these Tools - like our Pu$$y Politicians who do not WANT ACCOUNTABILITY and are instructing either directly or through negligence these Brave Soldiers and Mercenaries to do Bushit''s and Cheney''s Bidding - Here is the Real Devils that portray themselves as GOD FEAR''in Men when they have no heart or soul and OIL runs through their veins.

I say what did you expect? Two Oil men in the highest offices in America, You didn''t think that that would be all they care about?

vip_protect wrote:

"...I should know because I have worked with them as a Contractor, and mind you I am not even an American..."

You may not be an American, but that doesn''t mean that you deserve any respect for being a gun for hire and being part of a business that murders innocent Iraqis.

You''re just as much a scum sucking piece of excrement as anyone who has worked with these piece of sh|t companies.

[incog-nito]

vip_protect: Guts? To serve your country? You''ve got to be kidding. Most Americans want troops out of Iraq. So do most Iraqis. So how is being a mercenary in a place where people don''t want you there "serving your country"? How about money and an inflated ego?

[incog-nito]

vip_protect: Guts? To serve your country? You''ve got to be kidding. Most Americans want troops out of Iraq. So do most Iraqis. So how is being a mercenary in a place where people don''t want you there "serving your country"? Money and and inflated ego, that''s what it''s all about.

[incog-nito]

vip_protect: Guts? To serve your country? You''ve got to be kidding. Most Americans want troops out of Iraq. So do most Iraqis. So how is being a mercenary in a place where people don''t want you there "serving your country"? Money and and inflated ego, that''s how.

[spike896]

Hey! seems to me everybody is against Blackwater! Try working in Iraq and Afghanistan without these guys and lets see how long your life expectancy out there would be. I know that these guys are well trained and have the restraint to shoot indistcrimanately. I also know that you guys out there with a loud mouth just don''t have the guts to serve your country or be a part of the Private Military Industry. I should know because I have worked with them as a Contractor, and mind you I am not even an American. It should be a job for the Americans, it so happens not everybody has the guts and proved to be a "whimpering loud mouth "

[incog-nito]

"I could accuse the Iraqis of being stupid for believing that Bush, Cheney, and the PNAC gang''''s goal was spreading democracy"

Posted by ibsteve2u at 11:52 PM : Oct 13, 2007

What makes you think the Iraqis believe Bush and company? And does it matter what they believe? Did they have any choice or say when Bush decided to invade? Do they have any choice now? Highly doubtful.

[missingamerica]

"They pretend it''s democracy," he weeps. "But they''re killing people."

I could accuse the Iraqis of being stupid for believing that Bush, Cheney, and the PNAC gang''s goal was spreading democracy, but that''d be the pot calling the kettle black; we fell for it, too.

[searingtruth]

"And so, just as Hitler and Stalin before them, Bush and his henchmen recruited brutal sociopaths to torture and murder, accounting only to their personal will. Lending them, wholeheartedly and enthusiastically, all necessary moral and legal blessing.

I have always been curious, and wondered, who the American people thought were torturing and murdering in our name."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com