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Marines Want Out Of Iraq

(CBS/AP)  The Marine Corps is pushing to redeploy its forces from Iraq to Afghanistan to take the lead in combat operations there and essentially leave Iraq to the Army, The New York Times reported Thursday.

The commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen. James T. Conway, raised the issue with Defense Secretary Robert Gates last week, the Times reported. Senior military and Pentagon officials said supporters of the proposal, including some in the Army, believe that such a realignment could allow both services to operate more efficiently in the face of strains on the separate forces.

No major Marine units are among the 26,000 U.S. forces in Afghanistan while 25,000 Marines are among the 160,000 U.S. troops there, the paper noted.

Army and Pentagon leaders have warned repeatedly that the long, deadly and repeated deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan have stretched and stressed the Army, its soldiers and its families nearly to the breaking point. And there has been ongoing debate about how the service should transform itself to better meet the challenges of future wars.

At a news conference in London, Gates played down the talk about the Marines leaving Iraq.

"I had heard that they were beginning to think about that, and that's all that I've heard," Gates said. "I've seen no plan. No one has come to me with any proposals about it. My understanding is that it's, at this point, extremely preliminary thinking on the part of perhaps the staff in the Marine Corps. But I don't think at this point it has any stature."

Gates also said he is comfortable with Britain's decision to halve its troop levels in Iraq by spring, saying the plan had been worked out jointly with U.S. commanders.

In other developments:

  • U.S. troops backed by attack aircraft killed 19 suspected insurgents and 15 civilians, including nine children, in an operation targeting al Qaeda in Iraq leaders northwest of Baghdad on Thursday, the military said. An initial airstrike struck a "time-sensitive target," killing four insurgents in the Lake Tharthar area after intelligence reports indicated senior members of al Qaeda in Iraq were meeting there, according to a statement.

  • Rockets fired from a nearby abandoned school struck Camp Victory, killing two members of the U.S.-led coalition and wounding 40 other people on the sprawling headquarters for U.S. forces in Iraq, the military said Thursday.

  • Police said clashes Thursday between suspected al Qaeda gunmen and police at checkpoints in Abbara left at least one officer dead and two others wounded. One gunman was killed and several others fled.

  • Just east of Baqouba, suspected al-Qaeda gunmen took control of five Sunni villages, killing six people, including two police officers and wounding five others, a police official said. The attacks, which began Wednesday evening and continued until Thursday morning, happened two days after locals, supported by U.S. forces, had cleared the village of insurgents, the official said.

  • Also Thursday, gunmen killed five Iraqi civilians and wounded four in a morning attack on a minibus making its way from Khalis to Kirkuk.

  • A suicide car bombing in a Kirkuk market killed seven and wounded 50. The target of the attack was a three-car police convoy carrying the traffic police chief and his guards, police said. Three of the policemen were among the dead and the chief was wounded.

  • A lawsuit has been filed against Blackwater USA by families of Iraqis who died in a shooting involving company contractors. The suit in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., says the contractor has been paid more than a billion dollars by the U.S. government since 2001 and that the company violated federal laws in the September 16th shooting in which 17 Iraqis were killed.

  • U.N. officials in Iraq said Thursday they will be looking into whether war crimes and crimes against humanity were committed in recent shootings of Iraqi civilians by U.S.-hired contractors and urged U.S. authorities to hold private security firms accountable for unjustified killings of Iraqis.

    On Wednesday, Iraqi officials demanded answers of an Australian-owned security company blamed in the killing of two Iraqi women. The scrutiny of Unity Resources Group began a day after its guards allegedly gunned down the two Armenian Christian women in their car.


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    by speakinup October 14, 2007 9:08 PM EDT
    "Any Cons calling the Marines cut and runners yet?
    Posted by Smirk5

    No, but I bet alot of you far left flies couldn''t wait for this page to open thinking, "Even the Marines want to leave because it is so politically incorrect."

    I can only imagine your surprise when it turns out they were looking for a real fight (ie - things were getting boring!)
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    by ioweign October 12, 2007 12:37 PM EDT
    I don''''t see how all you people think this is a knock against the war in Iraq. It''''s also just a preliminary discussion, and not like they''''re begging to get out of Iraq like some of you think. They feel it would be more efficient for the Marines to take the lead in Afghanistan and the Army take control in Iraq. The Army is better suited for the operations in Iraq, and the Marines are better suited for Afghanistan right now. It also tells me that things are getting much better in Iraq. But I''''m sure none of you can see that, despite the drastic drop of violence over the last month.
    Plus, even when the Democrats admitted that the surge was working, they wanted to shift the argument to the political goals not being met. The Marines don''''t need to be there anymore, and that''''s the reason they are pushing for redeployment.

    Posted by s1ckd09 at 08:06 AM : Oct 12, 2007


    Ok, General s1ckd09.

    What was the reason for the "surge" ??

    If the surge is working - why end it ?

    If the surge is working - then those political goals "should" be met !!

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    by s1ckd09 October 12, 2007 11:06 AM EDT
    I don''t see how all you people think this is a knock against the war in Iraq. It''s also just a preliminary discussion, and not like they''re begging to get out of Iraq like some of you think. They feel it would be more efficient for the Marines to take the lead in Afghanistan and the Army take control in Iraq. The Army is better suited for the operations in Iraq, and the Marines are better suited for Afghanistan right now. It also tells me that things are getting much better in Iraq. But I''m sure none of you can see that, despite the drastic drop of violence over the last month.
    Plus, even when the Democrats admitted that the surge was working, they wanted to shift the argument to the political goals not being met. The Marines don''t need to be there anymore, and that''s the reason they are pushing for redeployment.
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    by smirk5 October 12, 2007 9:18 AM EDT
    Only the Republicans can be trusted to fight terrorism. The leak of the Bin Laden video to the media shows this with great clarity. It''s great that feeding the fox news propaganda machine with the Bin Laden tape trumped protecting sensitive information concerning Al-Qaeda.
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    by smirk5 October 12, 2007 9:08 AM EDT
    Any Cons asking themselves who in the White House leaked the Bin Laden tape to the media?
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    by smirk5 October 12, 2007 9:06 AM EDT
    Any Cons calling the Marines cut and runners yet?
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    by themartyred October 12, 2007 8:17 AM EDT
    I''m pretty sure the last time they polled the troops, they wanted out of Iraq then... and the year before that... and the year before that...

    So many people I know signed up for the US Military to defend us against attacks, not to plunder Iraq for economic profiteering from war spending and raping that land. No WONDER they want to go to Afghanistan - to find the real killer - OJ, er, I mean Osama!
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    by bluestardad October 12, 2007 8:04 AM EDT
    OPPPS! AT LEAST ONE GENERAL HAS NOT BEEN BOUGHT OFF BY THE BUSHIT NEOCONS!

    LETS SEE HOW LONG BEFORE THE BUSH ATTACK DOGS RUIN HIS CAREER!
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    by gmond October 12, 2007 7:06 AM EDT
    Marines want out of Iraq. This is news?
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    by ramos937 October 12, 2007 6:55 AM EDT
    To the Marine Corps Commandant - Amen.

    Too bad you will now have a short tenure as commandant.
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