June 8, 2008
Joel Osteen Answers His Critics
Tells Byron Pitts "We're Not Perfect"
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Popular preacher Joel Osteen's positive message attracts crowds and has made him known around the world in books, speeches and televised sermons. Byron Pitts reports.
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Why doesn't it look more like a church?
"Hopefully it'll look more and more like churches around the country," says Osteen's wife, Victoria.
Osteen and his wife of 21 years, who co-pastors Lakewood with him, took 60 Minutes on a tour of what they call their worship facility.
There's a programmed ceiling that changes colors during songs, and no pulpit; Osteen calls it a podium.
"This does have a concert feel to it," Pitts remarks.
"It does," Osteen agrees.
Asked if all this distracts from the message, Osteen tells Pitts, "I don’t think so. I think it helps people be engaged."
Engaged and generous. Osteen can afford all this because of the money the church brings in. But he doesn't solicit contributions on television.
Asked why he doesn't ask for money during his TV broadcasts, Osteen says, "We didn't want anything to distract people when they were watchin’ to try to turn off the message. 'Cause we know how people are skeptical of TV ministers. 'Hey, there's a guy, he just wants my money.' I didn't want any of that."
"But you do want their money," Pitts says.
"Well, we need people to support us, or we can't stay on. But we don't get on the air and ask for it. And it's amazing how people can see that you - when you’re genuine. They send money," Osteen says.
Buckets of money -- over $43 million a year gets collected in the church, another $30 million or so comes in the mail. It's a cash cow and a family business. Osteen's brother, sister and mother are ministers in the church. But the real money for Osteen comes from his book sales, which are re-packaged versions of his sermons. His latest book, "Become A Better You," for which he reportedly got a $13 million advance, debuted in October at number one on the New York Times bestseller list and is on the list today. The book lays out seven principles he believes will improve our lives.
"To become a better you, you must be positive towards yourself, develop better relationships, embrace the place where you are. Not one mention of God in that. Not one mention of Jesus Christ in that," Pitts remarks.
"That's just my message. There is scripture in there that backs it all up. But I feel like, Byron, I'm called to help people…how do we walk out the Christian life? How do we live it? And these are principles that can help you. I mean, there’s a lot better people qualified to say, 'Here’s a book that going to explain the scriptures to you.' I don’t think that’s my gifting," Osteen says.
Wherever he goes, people tell Osteen that he helps.
"Thank you so much. Thank you so much for what you do," one bookstore customer remarked. "You’ve changed my whole life."
"You are such an inspiration. I watch you every week. You’re a great help," another said.
But many theologians from mainstream churches find Osteen's message misleading and shallow.
"I think it’s a cotton candy gospel," says Rev. Michael Horton, a professor of theology at Westminster Seminary in Escondido, Calif.
"His core message is God is nice, you’re nice, be nice," Horton says, laughing. "It's sort of a, if it were a form of music, I think it would be easy listening. He uses the Bible like a fortune cookie. 'This is what’s gonna happen for you. There’s gonna be a windfall in your life tomorrow.' The Bible's not meant to be read that way."
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I bellieve that was referring to preachers who teach people they can enter the kingdom of heaven thru their own goods deeds rather than relying on jesus alone. Joel Osteen has never claimed that in in his teachings of Gods word.
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However, when you have Christ''s truth, you don''t need Paul''s explanations.
It seems to me that if I focus my attention on legalistic formulations, and use that to condemn my brother''s attempts to know God, I have departed from the spirit of Christ.
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It''s either the whole gospel or none. The new testament has several passages where Christ makes references to the "lake of fire", guess what guys that''s HELL. If you "moderates" want to label that "fire and brimstone" preaching, then so be it!
Society changes, fads come and go. But GOD is eternal and. You can upgrade your cell phone, computer and car LOL. But what was wrong 2000 years ago, is still wrong today.
I don''t dislike Joel O. I think he''s responding or trying to respond to the critics that say "don''t offend at any cost, get em saved". That method of preaching is FLAWED for sure. If you toss out the "sin" message from preaching, you''ll have a generation of Christians thinking they have a blank check to praise god on Sunday, and act like the devil the other 6 days of the week.
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Lakewood sponsors free events for families,kids, teens, young adults, and wonderful women / men ministries. The comments I get every Sunday is " WE CAN''T BELIEVE ALL THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN AND CHILDREN THAT ATTEND LAKEWOOD. While other churchs are lacking attendences of full families, Lakewood is full of families. The presence of the LORD is truly in Houston every Sunday at Lakewood Church.
Lakewood sponsors free events for families,kids, teens, young adults, and wonderful women / men ministries. The comments I get every Sunday is " WE CAN''T BELIEVE ALL THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN AND CHILDREN THAT ATTEND LAKEWOOD. While other churchs are lacking attendences of full families, Lakewood is full of families. The presence of the LORD is truly in Houston every Sunday at Lakewood Church.
Lakewood sponsors free events for families,kids, teens, young adults, and wonderful women / men ministries. The comments I get every Sunday is " WE CAN''T BELIEVE ALL THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN AND CHILDREN THAT ATTEND LAKEWOOD. While other churchs are lacking attendences of full families, Lakewood is full of families. The presence of the LORD is truly in Houston every Sunday at Lakewood Church.
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1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony[a] of God. 2 Fo
1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony[a] of God. 2 For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. 4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human[b] wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony[a] of God. 2 For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. 4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human[b] wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
We should appreciate one another, build and not tear down in Christ. Remain blessed in Him
I love Joel and I support him 100% he is an inspiration.
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What does Joel''s personal best in benchpressing have to do with what he''s doing professionally?
Did you do any research besides reading Joel''s /Lakewood''s website?
Go back to journalism school and pay attention.
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Did you do any research besides reading Joel''s /Lakewood''s website?
Go back to journalism school and pay attention.
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