Oct. 9, 2007

For Fred Thompson, It's Showtime

Washington Post: This Afternoon's GOP Debate Is Seen As A Crucial Test

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In his month-old quest for the White House, Fred D. Thompson has already endured withering criticism from evangelical leader James Dobson, who observed that the former "Law & Order" star and onetime senator from Tennessee "has no passion, no zeal and no apparent 'want-to.' "

Old friends in Hollywood have been no kinder. Playing a laconic Thompson on "Saturday Night Live" over the weekend, comic Darrell Hammond seized on a story line that has already become conventional wisdom about his presidential bid. "I'm not sayin' I don't want to be your president, because I kinda do," Hammond drawled. "A little bit."

And after helping to create huge expectations for Thompson's late entry into the Republican race, the Washington establishment has proclaimed itself underwhelmed by his early performance. Columnist George Will compared him to New Coke and said his entry into the race was "more belly flop than swan dive."

This afternoon, when Republican presidential candidates gather in Dearborn, Mich., for their sixth major debate, much of the focus will be on the former actor and whether he can seize the moment, not only to distinguish himself from the rest of the field but also to rebut accusations that he is too lazy, too ill-prepared and too vague to be the GOP nominee.

"This is an opportunity for Fred Thompson to chip away at the rap his critics use against him by being very well prepared and very smooth," said Republican consultant Whit Ayres. "He needs to verify the hope and promise that many voters have placed in him."

"He has to overperform," said GOP strategist Alex Vogel, who described what he called a "huge buildup" for Thompson, followed by a "real or perceived letdown." The debate, Vogel said, "is either a real opportunity to kick things into the next gear or a real underperformance."

Before finally announcing after Labor Day, Thompson spent months "testing the waters," and the tease seemed to work. Polls suggested that the non-candidate could rocket to the top of the national surveys once he formally joined the less-than-inspiring field.

That didn't happen, and his performance on the stump since he announced on "The Tonight Show" has been uneven.

Thompson received warm welcomes from crowds, especially in South Carolina. But early on, he called Osama bin Laden more "symbolism" than true threat, and later he suggested that the terrorist should receive "due process." In Florida a few days later, he said he didn't know enough to comment about the Terri Schiavo right-to-die case.

Later in Florida, he said he might drill for oil in the Everglades -- not a popular position in a critical primary state. He angered conservatives by opposing a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage and acknowledging that he does not regularly attend church.

One rival gleefully began a "gaffe-a-day calendar," tracking Thompson's misstatements under the headline "A gaffe a day keeps th voters away."

Thompson's advisers say they are unfazed by the negative reviews. They say such commentary emanates from inside Washington and does not reflect the powerful connection Thompson is making on the trail.

"In the real world, Republican primary voters are looking for a conservative candidate who can win in November of 2008," said Thompson communications director Todd Harris. "They are far more concerned about that than they are the daily dribblings of the national press corps."

Richard Land, a leading voice in the Baptist community, compared Thompson to Ronald Reagan, who also endured often harsh criticism from dubious political elites early in his career.

"He may have Reagan's Teflon quality," said Land, who does not endorse candidates but is fond of Thompson. "Fred Thompson is a person who connects with average voters."

Land points as evidence to polls that show Thompson in a strong position nationally and leading or in second place in several early primary states. A Des Moines Register poll released yesterday shows Thompson ahead of everyone in Iowa except former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney.

It is also possible that Thompson's debate performance will be overshadowed by an increasingly hostile exchange between Romney and former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani. The two have sparred for days about taxes and spending -- issues likely to be front and center at the economics-oriented debate.

The spat continued yesterday, with a Romney e-mail to reporters titled "BIG CITY, BIG SPENDER: Mayor Giuliani Left New York City With 'Enormous Deficits. ' "

But Thompson's supporters recognize that today's debate, sponsored by MSNBC and the Wall Street Journal, will be their candidate's first big-time performance before a live national audience.

They have been prepping Thompson for days, giving him policy briefings at his Virginia headquarters and sending him out on the campaign trail with thick binders to study. There have been several mock debates aimed at getting Thompson used to the format. The last time he debated formally was almost 13 years ago.

Thompson's screen career should be a plus, aides say. He is used to the camera and is comfortable in front of an audience. And he's not unfamiliar with the presidential debate process. In 1996, he acted as Bill Clinton during debate preparation for GOP candidate Robert J. Dole.

"Fred needs to be Fred. That's my point of view," said one Republican supporter close to the campaign. "He will answer the questions. That's what he should do."

But other set the bar higher for Thompson.

"He needs to show he's in midseason form," said David Keating, executive director of the Club for Growth, a conservative group. "People are expecting a lot more from him. He was talking about running a different kind of a campaign to tackle the big problems. It could be really interesting if he really does that."

Ayres said Thompson took a risk by waiting to enter the presidential race until after summer had ended. Doing so robbed him of the ability to work out campaign kinks when few people are watching, he said.

"That's one of the costs of waiting to enter," Ayres said yesterday. "You don't have a shakedown cruise with less publicity. The spotlight is shining brightly on all the credible candidates."

Asked whether poll numbers reflect a more positive assessment for Thompson than is reflected by the Washington establishment, Ayres said: "We'll see if that's true. That's a testable proposition."

Staff writer Perry Bacon Jr. contributed to this report.



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by glossypan October 9, 2007 8:28 AM PDT
I think my fellow progressives are underestimating Fred Thompson. He is an actor, a profession that sets little con hearts aflutter. He has lobbied for rich clients across the political spectrum. They did not pay him big bucks just for being tall. He may well be plugged in to the Bush-Cheney-Rove machine, still a force in politics.

The first hurdle for any Republican is securing his party''s nomination. If anyone impresses Pat Robertson''s Christian Taliban, they will probably be the Republican nominee. Rudy is despised by the thumpers. McCain has been karlroved. Mitts modern day oracles and angels in the homeland may or may not play well with the trad fundamentalists.

Fifteen to twenty million sheep is a huge boost at the ballot box, even in the general election. If Pat anoints Fred Thompson, he will be a formidable foe for the presidency.
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by gkc99 October 9, 2007 8:33 AM PDT
I''m just hoping one of the softball pitchers at the "debate" gets up the nerve to ask Freyed how he managed to avoid the Vietnam draft. Class of 1964, law school class of 1967, he had a chance to show how much he puts his a$$ where his mouth is in his pro-war "stance" of the moment. Like so many of the chickenshithawks, my guess is when asked to pick up a gun, he "had other priorities."

Is there any lower scum than lying neocon hypocrits?
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by radiob-2009 October 9, 2007 8:51 AM PDT
Another actor trying to wear a poodle skirt.
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by johnny343sc October 9, 2007 9:19 AM PDT
Politicians/lawyers, like TV "journalists", ARE actors. They sell a product for people to buy, whether it be news or policies, and must convince people of this need for support, whether it be money or votes or both.

Why not elect an actor for President-perfect fit...

;)
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by titancowboy3 October 9, 2007 9:21 AM PDT
Fear. That is what the libs have of Fred Thompson. They know he is the best chance for a Republican win next year and they are trying to minimize the good and exaggerate the bad. Fred connects well with people. he is believable and doesn''t change his stance on every issue depending on who he is speaking to (see Hillary).
Fred is a honest man and is in the race for the right reasons, he loves this country. The libs don''t have a single candidate that can say the same.
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by emsaund1 October 9, 2007 9:25 AM PDT
TITANCOWBOY -- The libs dont want to hear that. They are still seething over thier loss in 2000 and 2004.

On top of that, with their victory in the house and Senate, they''ve not been able to accomplish anything as far as passing any bill, etc....
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by nolalou October 9, 2007 9:36 AM PDT
titancowboy3 ,

Actually, I hope Fred Thompson does get the Republican nomination. He''s a light weight, and would be the easiest of the bunch for the Democrats to beat! I don''t hold out much hope for that though, the way his campaign has started out, I don''t think he will get the nomination.

This guy gave a speech where he talked about relations with the Soviet Union twice, even though they don''t exist any more, and haven''t for almost 20 years! He also claimed that when he was in the senate he tried to keep the budget under control, and did the best he could considering that Democrats were in the majority! The problem with that argument is that when Fred Thompson was in the Senate, the Republicans were in the majority!!

So, if you really want to nominate Fred Thompson, I say ''bring him on!''
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by marcodele October 9, 2007 9:53 AM PDT
He is the perfect candidate for the neocons. They can make all kinds of Reagan comparisons (except for senile actor with health problems) and his totally void stand on any issue will be as good as Bush Junior. As long as he bashes ***, abortions, and keeps ranting about how great guns are, he''ll get the majority of the neocon votes. God they''re stupid.
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by emsaund1 October 9, 2007 9:55 AM PDT
NOLALOU: Although I dont mind Fred Thompson, I dont think he is strong enough to take on Giuliani or Romney down the stretch. But, we shall see.

You do have a point but, I think actually, Ron Paul would be the easiest to beat for you DEMS. Although he''s a REPUB, he has whacky theories on pulling the military out of every place in the world, abolishing taxes all together, etc...

Also, Hillary would love that because Ron Pauls theories are so whacky, that would shift the focus on him and she could continue solialistic agenda unabated...
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by jn122736 October 9, 2007 10:13 AM PDT
One factor overlooked here is, Thompson''s indecision about entering the campaign indicates an apparent lack of enthusiasm in running for/becoming president.
People, subconsciously, sense these things.

It also fits into his past life. He was an actor before becoming a senator, voluntarily left the senate to resume acting (presumably due to boredom). Now he has left acting again to, reluctantly and belatedly, run for president.

Too few people actually run for president for the betterment of the country, indeed most are seeking self-importance, attention, recognition, as well as financial gain, Party affiliation notwothstanding.

The only thing that keeps many truly patriotic citizens, who would serve as president strictly to benefit the country, cannot because of the costs of campaigning.
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by glossypan October 9, 2007 10:31 AM PDT
jn122735.. I agree with you that Thompson leaving the Senate will be a significant negative. I disagree about his presidential candidacy. He formed an exploratory committee early. He was able to raise and report money under the much less stringent exploratory guidelines. He stayed out of the "circular firing squad" of the early primary. His campaign committee assignments and speaking tour show his focus on the Evangelicals, whose support alone can almost guarantee the nomination. Regardless of who wins the nomination, we will see a different face for the general election. With the RR vote assured, the Republican nominee can slide toward the center for Nov 2008.
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by v_1618 October 9, 2007 11:06 AM PDT
HEY FRED YOU''RE ONLY A STUPID IDIOT SO GO TO SLEEP ....
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by marcodele October 9, 2007 11:09 AM PDT
"endured withering criticism from evangelical leader James Dobson..."

Are the neocons going to let the evangelical hypocrites like Ted Haggard decide another election?
After all, that''s how Rove tricked them into voting for Junior, and now look at this mess.
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by shingles1 October 9, 2007 11:21 AM PDT
"He may have Reagan''s Teflon quality," said Land, who does not endorse candidates but is fond of Thompson. "Fred Thompson is a person who connects with average voters."

And I have a magic pony.

I like how Nixon, on tape, describes Fred Thompson as "dumb as hell". Which means he''s the perfect candidate for the bozos on this site. Lightweight and fake.

If you want to vote for a real Conservative who has substance go for either Huckabee or Paul, not this clown. Or, for humor value, a vote for Trancredo would be a vote for funny.
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by gwagener October 9, 2007 11:26 AM PDT
It''s hard to have passion, zeal and apparent ''want-to'' when you are a warmed over corpse.
All you have to remember about this guy is Fred = dead, literally.
Fred Thompson has Non-Hodgkin''s Lymphoma. That is a disqualifier. It''s not even close to a gray area. He has less than a 50% chance of living until 2013. My mother died of Non-Hodgkin''s Lymphoma, so I know what I''m talking about.

http://www.lymphomation.org/statistics.htm

Giuliani had prostate cancer. McCain had skin cancer. I say HAD (past tense) because a cancer you can cut out or irradiate can be gone. Not so with blood cancers. Thompson HAS cancer. His cancer is in remission, but could come back at any time.
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by glossypan October 9, 2007 11:32 AM PDT
I might point out that most of Dobson''s anti-Thompson comments were made when Newt Gingrich, inexplicably Dobson''s political god, was still pondering his run for president. I think he will contain his venom for Thompson now. Mighty slim pickins among presidential contenders for the Rev James Dobson this year.
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by brettrix October 9, 2007 11:33 AM PDT
Fred is ok on Law and Order, nothing great, but I am worried about a president with lymphoma... I think cancers of the blood are pretty much untreatable...

I don''t want to "waste" my vote.
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by geezer62 October 9, 2007 11:33 AM PDT
Once again, I fear, the upcoming election will be determined by two factors. One..the evangelical right and two..possible manipulation of voting machines. Given the mood of the country at this time there is no way that a republican candidate can win, especially when they have such a weak field to choose from. So, looking at the past two elections it seems likely that this one will again be determined by organized religion. We have seen in the past that emotional issues seem to trump practical issues so why should this be any different? I''m not looking for an arguement here...just throwing out a possibility.
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by hwy71so October 9, 2007 12:26 PM PDT
I want to hear more from Duncan Hunter.

Romney, Guiliani and McCain, have not sense of morals. Not sure about Thompson sense, afterall, he does/did make his living working for Hollywood...
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by frankly6 October 9, 2007 12:41 PM PDT


Thompson was a career lobbyist. He''s the last thing thing this country needs in the white house.


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by suhaalnafa October 9, 2007 12:45 PM PDT
The Republicans must go in the bin!
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by winghunter October 9, 2007 12:52 PM PDT
Fred only needs to be himself with an audience who''s actually listening to what he is saying and who understand the fundamentals of the subject he''s dicussing to do very well today.

Yes, this leaves socialist Libprogs nothing else to do but watch Law & Order.



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by compugor October 9, 2007 1:04 PM PDT
Fred Thompson has the temperament and knowledge to lead this country. Not only can he win the republican nomination, but he can win the general election as well. His ability, integrity and the principles for which he stands far outweigh the nasty negatives espoused by you naysayers. You deserve Hillary.
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by rushlimpdrug October 9, 2007 2:49 PM PDT
Fred Thompson has the temperament and knowledge to lead this country. Not only can he win the republican nomination, but he can win the general election as well. His ability, integrity and the principles for which he stands far outweigh the nasty negatives espoused by you naysayers. You deserve Hillary.
Posted by compugor

You were credible until you started posting.
Do you write for comedy central?
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by simonsez40 October 9, 2007 3:45 PM PDT
Oh geez the only thing Fred has going for him is his wife.......nothing like an old, bald and rich man to reel in the hotties! Give me a break - another loser Republican running............who can''t even make a decision to run! Uh um....maybe I will run...I do want to a little bit......
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by tibu987 October 9, 2007 3:47 PM PDT
Please, no more celebrity presidents or politicians.
That is another world although show business and political business at times seem similar.
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by cmp271 October 9, 2007 4:46 PM PDT
Its good he takes his time and actually thinks before he replies. Many candidates just swoop in with what they believe is a good answer, and half the time its wrong. We don''t need speedy gonazles''s.

Fred Thompson would be a good candidate. He is typically southern, perceived as slow and lazy. They all sound that way. Listening to Edwards the other night all I could think was how did he make it out of school with that lazy drawl of his, its worse this year.

Romney and Guliani are head to head. Reminds me of Edwards and Kerry the last time. Edwards would have won. Maybe the Dems will wise up and have Edwards be the front guy this time. Hillary is losing it, accusing someone of being a plant!!! Good thing some of us aren''t in the audience!!!
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by forthepeopl1 October 9, 2007 6:55 PM PDT

Spokeswoman Dana Perino told reporters, "anytime a citizen comes forward to provide information, we want to encourage it and we want them to know their sources will be protected."

Perino insisted the White House was not the source of the leak last month. She referred reporters to the intelligence community for questions on what she described as any "process problem."

SHES A PIG AND LIES ALL DAY BUSH/CHENEY NEED TO BE HANGED FOR TREASON FOR THE MURDERS OF OUR TROOPS..
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by dutchfarmer October 9, 2007 7:03 PM PDT
It appears the news industry have been tired of kissing the butt of Gudy Riuliani. They want to try a new butt: Fred Thompson, the Hollywood actor who will follow the script of the CFR. Ron Paul is the most knowledgeable and honest in the entire bunch.
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by gogginscm October 9, 2007 7:22 PM PDT
Fred Thompson performed well above expectations. He spoke of substantive proposals on Social Security and lowering corporate taxes providing incentives to keep jobs in America. This was his first debate and started off a little shaky, but after a couple of questions, he was relaxed. I think that he will be the Republican nominee.
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by gogginscm October 9, 2007 7:23 PM PDT
Fred Thompson performed well above expectations. He spoke of substantive proposals on Social Security and lowering corporate taxes providing incentives to keep jobs in America. This was his first debate and started off a little shaky, but after a couple of questions, he was relaxed. I think that he will be the Republican nominee.
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by gogginscm October 9, 2007 7:24 PM PDT
Fred Thompson performed well above expectations. He spoke of substantive proposals on Social Security and lowering corporate taxes providing incentives to keep jobs in America. This was his first debate and started off a little shaky, but after a couple of questions, he was relaxed. I think that he will be the Republican nominee.
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by gogginscm October 9, 2007 7:26 PM PDT
Fred Thompson performed well above expectations. He spoke of substantive proposals on Social Security and lowering corporate taxes providing incentives to keep jobs in America. This was his first debate and started off a little shaky, but after a couple of questions, he was relaxed. I think that he will be the Republican nominee.
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by gogginscm October 9, 2007 7:27 PM PDT
Fred Thompson performed well above expectations. He spoke of substantive proposals on Social Security and lowering corporate taxes providing incentives to keep jobs in America. This was his first debate and started off a little shaky, but after a couple of questions, he was relaxed. I think that he will be the Republican nominee.
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by gogginscm October 9, 2007 7:28 PM PDT
Fred Thompson performed well above expectations. He spoke of substantive proposals on Social Security and lowering corporate taxes providing incentives to keep jobs in America. This was his first debate and started off a little shaky, but after a couple of questions, he was relaxed. I think that he will be the Republican nominee.
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by jaychai1 October 9, 2007 11:47 PM PDT
We should remember that Thomson has always been against minorities in America.......he has never made positive comments about minorities - just negative slurs. He will make a lousy president because of his lack of magnanimity.
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by sjc_1 October 10, 2007 2:20 AM PDT
"...lowering corporate taxes..."

In the 1960s corporations paid more than 40% of the Federal budget and now they pay less than 7%. The whole competitiveness con has left the average working person carrying the burden.
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by bizzzz-2009 October 10, 2007 12:13 PM PDT
HOW STUPID ARE DEMOCRATS? I''''M GLAD YOU ASKED. LAST NIGHT, ALL OF THE 2008 REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES HAD ENOUGH GUTS TO HAVE AN HOUR LONG TELEVISED DEBATE IN THE DEMOCRATS OWN BACKYARD ON MSNBC.

THIS MORNING, WHAT DO LIBERALS WRITE ON THESE MESSAGE BOARDS? BUSH BAD, BUSH BAD, BUSH BAD.... HELLO, HE"S NOT RUNNING NEXT YEAR!
WHO ARE REALLY THE BUSH-BOTS, CONSERVATIVES OR LIBERALS?

BY THE WAY, WHEN ARE THE BLATANTLY PU$$Y DEMOCRATS GOING TO HAVE THEIR DEBATE ON FOX? THEY ARE SUCH BIG PU$$IES, IT''''S RIDICULOUS
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by bizzzz-2009 October 10, 2007 12:19 PM PDT
I''''m just hoping one of the softball pitchers at the "debate" gets up the nerve to ask Freyed how he managed to avoid the Vietnam draft....

gkc99,
Are you serious? I know how Bill Clinton avoided the draft. He fled to England like a pu$$y. Next question
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