June 29, 2008

Rebuilding The Family Tree

Lesley Stahl Reports On The Hopes And Limitations Of Genetic Genealogy

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    Marion West, left, and Vy Higgensen.  (CBS)

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(CBS)  This segment was originally broadcast on Oct. 7, 2007. It was updated on June 26, 2008.

Genealogy -- researching family history -- is one of the most popular hobbies in this country, right up there with gardening. A nation of immigrants, we almost all come from somewhere else we wish we knew more about, so searching for our roots holds tremendous appeal. And today there is an exciting new addition to the genealogists' tool kit: genetic genealogy.

As correspondent Lesley Stahl first reported last fall, it turns out that inside each one of us, within every cell of our bodies, is information about who our ancestors were, where they lived, and who we're related to today. Our DNA contains hidden stories about our pasts, and scientists, together with businessmen, are now offering ways to help us read them.



Vy Higginsen is the founder and director of the Mama Foundation for the Arts in Harlem. She believes it's crucial for African-Americans to know and celebrate their heritage. But for most of her life, she knew virtually nothing about her own.

"It happened when my grandmother died. When I saw her laying in the casket, and I realized I didn't know who she was," she explains.

She started researching her family tree, but could only get as far back as her grandmother's father, Robert West. Then she heard about a company that could explore her great grandfather's ancestry, using DNA from a direct male descendent. So she called her cousin James West and asked if she could come swab his cheek.

"So we go down to Washington D.C. We take the test and he's all excited. And we send it back. And, bam, there's a hit," Vy Higgensen remembers.

There was a match between cousin James' DNA and that of several other men whose last name was also West. That means that James, and therefore Vy, are related to all these men, who sent their DNA to the same company, also looking for matches.

Vy was reeling from that information, when she received a phone call from halfway across the country. "And he said, 'Hello. My name is Marion West. And I'm a cattle rancher from Poplar Bluff, Missouri. And I understand we're cousins," Vy, who is African-American, remembers.

Out of the blue, Marion West, who is white, had picked up the phone and reached out to his newfound DNA cousin. "I picked up the phone and dialed her," he tells Stahl.

"You probably never had a cousin that sounded like that before," Stahl remarks.

"No," Vy says. "Not even close. I mean I didn't see a cow 'til I was 22."

And she wasn't exactly what he’d been expecting either: he had tried DNA testing to prove a family story that his bloodline traced back to British royalty.

"You had this sense that your family was pure English, pure blood. Blue blood," Stahl says.

"Oh yeah, 100 percent," Marion West says.

Marion West and Vy's cousin James West are related through the tiny "Y" chromosome, which men pass down unchanged to their sons, so it traces an unbroken line from generation to generation. It was the "Y" chromosome that allowed family members of Sally Hemings to prove they descended from Thomas Jefferson, or at least from one of his male relatives.

Now if you want to find out about your ancestry, there are at least a dozen different companies offering to analyze DNA for prices ranging from $100 to $400 a test.

The company Marion and Vy chose, Family Tree DNA, is one of the largest. They say the DNA proves that Marion and Vy share a common male ancestor, probably within the last 100 to 300 years. And that common ancestor was Caucasian.

Marion says up to that point, it had never before occurred to him that he had a branch of the family that was African-American.

"How did you feel about the prospect of having black relatives?" Stahl asks.

"Well, you know, I really, to tell you the truth, it's just life. I didn't doubt it a bit," he says.

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by lcabel October 7, 2007 8:20 PM PDT
I was watching the story about the dna -- too bad you didn''t know about the free testing www.smgf.org -- it takes a bit longer - 6 mos, but it is free
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by littleeagle4 October 7, 2007 8:22 PM PDT
How do I find out about American Indian ancestory DNA testing? And how accurate is it? Please send info to ntgarden@msn.com. Thanks, Little Eagle
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by pppouch October 7, 2007 8:31 PM PDT
Your story was informative but disappointing. Why does it always seem that no matter what advances to benefit African Americans are produced you have to end it on a sour note. Do you really think it was good to end your story with the only true trace the black woman could trust was a white ancestor? A nice touch would have been to follow the woman''s ancestory back to Africa to see if maybe there was some truth to the DNA information the brother found. As usual we are left with a slave background ending and happy negroes singing in church.
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by frank_davies October 7, 2007 8:35 PM PDT

lesley,
your piece was great. I do not however think that its inconsistent that we have DNA''s from different parts of the world given the migration of people. The lady that came from the mende tribe of Sierra Leone for example...if you look at the history of the mendes, you would find out that they are all along the coastal countries of Africa even though their base is in Sierra Leone. I believe if you take a closer look at the DNA''s you can find more than relatives but about migration patterns of people world wide. I hope someone will take your story further, and help that lady locate her ancestors. It is a very interesting story.
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by kacurtis1 October 7, 2007 8:50 PM PDT
I''d like to contact Ms. Higginson. I''m also a West and bear a strong resemblance. I was born in Illinois. Please contact Kacurtis824@aol.com.
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by rmihardy October 7, 2007 9:05 PM PDT
Hello Leslie - I think that your show does much unjustice - Should you have presented such a wonderful topic in terms of it possibly being a fraud. It would have been better to say that "this is a show to caution you about being tricked into using dna companies" the title of your show was about "tracing your ancestory" - so, i think that you mislead us by this tile instead i hear about fraudulent dna companies - what''s up with that leslie - the title was like a title that a tabloid would use to get someone to read the article and finding out that the content of the article was totally different than the tabloid headline. Now I''m begining to question the title of your show. "60 minutes" implies a show that has integretiy in its''s reporting and that i can be comfortable that you are going to give me what your name implies - but then finding out that you are misleading - i think that i am very angry, this is not the first time that your titles have been misleading - does it have to be that way to attract people to watch? Since the title of this show was about seaking ancestory - i made a point to watch - so, just like i do not pick-up the national enquirer at the news stand - i do not think that i am going to pick your show to watch - You have done a great disservice to people (espcially African-AMericans). know they will feel hesitant to search - that''s not nice of you!

Rhonda Hardy
Chicago, IL
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by cdziv October 7, 2007 9:14 PM PDT
%u201CThe Family Tree%u201D Paradox
In the story about %u201CReconstructing The Family Tree%u201D you noted that for each generation you go back you double the number of your ancestors eventually leading to millions of great grandparents. But if you go back far enough in time, all of humanity should all be linked to the same %u201Cgreat grandparents%u201D perhaps even a single couple? So how does our expanding ancestor tree end up with a single origin of all of humanity%u2019s accentors?
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by perki02w October 7, 2007 9:35 PM PDT
I was very irritated and outraged by your story on genetic genealogy, in particular the astounding ignorance and lack of perceptiveness shown by Ms. Stahl and Mr. Greely. Greely and implicitly Stahl decried the work of Mr. Kittles as giving people false hope because of the "lack of certainty" in the match results. Stahl and Greely apparently have no clue about the dynamics of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. Peoples from hundreds of different tribes were thrown together and consequently intermixed. Along with that, a lot of intermixing can happen among indigenous peoples over the years. Given these facts, Ms. Higginson having hits among several groups makes perfect sense. The average white person will cite at least two or three nationalities when they talk about their origins. For example, I%u2019ve heard %u201CScotch-Irish%u201D come up a lot. How certain is that? As usual, supposedly "enlightened" whites completely miss the point and tear down anything truly empowering in the black community. Mr. Kittles%u2019 work gives African Americans an opportunity to gain the sense of identity and self-worth whites have enjoyed for centuries.
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by oikn October 7, 2007 9:51 PM PDT
I was inspired by the story. The main point of the whole thing was: in this racist, bigoted country (I am white, family been here for over 300 years), is that we are all so interconnected that to continue the prejudice we have against black, African American, whatever, is completely nuts. We are one. As I have pursued my genealogic research, I have found relatives all over the country, relatives everywhere, names I had no idea I was related to. It might be a nice follow up story to show this interconnectedness. I believe that the situation among southerners (I also have many relatives there) would find more cases of "race mixing" than people might want to believe.
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by Cushite October 7, 2007 10:34 PM PDT
Part Two:

Or, you could have mentioned the fact that there are NO walls in Africa and just because one ethnic group is now separated from the other and they go by different ethnic names, that didn''t mean that they may have been apart of one larger group at some point in their history. They are indigenous to the continent. Being nomadic at some point and moving to different areas. Why they more than likely intermarried as well. In modern times, the land boundaries of present day Africa were determined by European elites, at the Berlin Conference of 1884 (CE). Of course, I''m sure you wanted to mention that. And what do you know; they didn''t mention to Mr. Marion West, that British bloodlines are not and were not "pure" in the first place. It''s make-believe! They did mention that European Americans are not "pure," but they made sure not to mention that many of them have some "African bloodlines." Now isn''t that scary. This was a feel good story to show how great a "white" man; Mr. Marion West is, by accepting this "Black" (social color caste system) woman in his family tree without being upset about it. Look how we are making progress in this country! Here is the lesson for the public watching these "Yellow Journalism" mainstream media shows. They will always seek to do what is in their best interest, period. They are maintaining social, political and economic privilege for this so-called whiteness social construct. Forget about the truth. Why, that may empower the wrong people.
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by Cushite October 7, 2007 10:35 PM PDT
Part One:

The biggest mistake that the gentleman from AfricanAncestry.com made was to play a part in this show. He was fooled into believing that the show was about an African American making an DNA connection with their ancestors, and what he and the rest of us found out, was how important it was for us to know that we are so "lucky" to have some so-called "white" blood. Lesley Stahl did what her programming leads her to do. Do what is in her "best" interest by teaching all of us, African Americans your interest in your ancient ancestor was unimportant and not very accurate. But just look how lucky you are to know that you have this magical "white" blood.
Now if this was a real story meant to educate, Lesley, (I hope you don''t mind me calling you, Lesley) would have told the public that African Americans are fully aware that their African ancestors were enslaved, and most of the women were raped by white males and in most cases their wives were fully aware of what their husbands were doing. Of course, I''m sure you wanted to mention that.
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by stressmgr1 October 7, 2007 10:41 PM PDT
Leslie I enjoyed the information presented. Although you saw no resemblence, I did. They both have almond shaped eyes and I noted their bottom lips take the same shape with some words. Nice job. I agree with
oikn - a follow up story might be a good idea to show the interconnectedness he speaks of. I would love to see more.
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by justinjryan October 7, 2007 10:53 PM PDT
Saying that DNA only shows a "tiny" portion of your ancestry is misleading. When testing Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA, it gives 100% of your ancestry on a DIRECT paternal or maternal line. For example, on Ms. Higginson''s grandfather''s line, it revealed that the WEST paternal line is European and it has not changed or mixed for thousands of years.

And of course Ms. Higginson has different tribal matches, did they expect that all of her cousins would inter-marry within one tribe? Its not as if all of her WEST cousin matches live in the same town either.

As for the DNA companies, is it reasonable to expect that they would plaster such advertising like "Discover your ancestral slave owner" or "What secret did Granny try to hide?" on the front page of their websites? The information is there, its just not in the banner ads.

While the show may leave a lot to be desired, there''s no denying the success of DNA testing for Ms. Higginson and Mr. West.

Justin Ryan
Public Relations
International Society of Genetic Genealogy (ISOGG)
http://www.isogg.org/
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by justinjryan October 7, 2007 10:53 PM PDT
Saying that DNA only shows a "tiny" portion of your ancestry is misleading. When testing Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA, it gives 100% of your ancestry on a DIRECT paternal or maternal line. For example, on Ms. Higginson''s grandfather''s line, it revealed that the WEST paternal line is European and it has not changed or mixed for thousands of years.

And of course Ms. Higginson has different tribal matches, did they expect that all of her cousins would inter-marry within one tribe? Its not as if all of her WEST cousin matches live in the same town either.

As for the DNA companies, is it reasonable to expect that they would plaster such advertising like "Discover your ancestral slave owner" or "What secret did Granny try to hide?" on the front page of their websites? The information is there, its just not in the banner ads.

While the show may leave a lot to be desired, there''s no denying the success of DNA testing for Ms. Higginson and Mr. West.

Justin Ryan
Public Relations
International Society of Genetic Genealogy (ISOGG)
http://www.isogg.org/
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by shorw7 October 7, 2007 10:59 PM PDT
I was delighted to see Vy and Marion%u2019s excitement on discovering they were cousins. Could you imagine this forty years ago? America, you have grown up!

Steven Horwitz
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by dmortorff October 7, 2007 11:02 PM PDT
Enjoyed your show. Let me know when you would like to have your viewers hear "the rest of the story". I belong to a research group that has been working on a surname study for the past 11 years on-line (before the emphasis on DNA as a tool). We have had great success for many researchers who want to find others by which they can validate if they are or are not pursuing the correct lineage or are seeking a branch to "hook up" with as they pursue their ancestry. As an adminsitrator I am very careful about explaining what DNA can and cannot do so expectations are appropriate for researchers considering testing. With 50+ tests done in our study combined with genealogy that has been searched by many researchers (we have 200-300 subscribers) we have had success in defining lineage genetic profiles for colonial lines. Researchers who test and find they match receive more information about their heritage in most cases. I would love to tell you about the success stories. Our research project has a few thousand reports on line and over 50K e-mails archived. What you addressed in your interview was an example of a person doing what I call "jumping in the pool", no ancestry really traced, nothing much to work with to understand where the lines converged by those that match. This is my complaint about the "jump in the pool" approach which is encouraged by some businesses, but there is another side to the story. I hope you address it.
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by dmortorff October 7, 2007 11:02 PM PDT
Enjoyed your show. Let me know when you would like to have your viewers hear "the rest of the story". I belong to a research group that has been working on a surname study for the past 11 years on-line (before the emphasis on DNA as a tool). We have had great success for many researchers who want to find others by which they can validate if they are or are not pursuing the correct lineage or are seeking a branch to "hook up" with as they pursue their ancestry. As an adminsitrator I am very careful about explaining what DNA can and cannot do so expectations are appropriate for researchers considering testing. With 50+ tests done in our study combined with genealogy that has been searched by many researchers (we have 200-300 subscribers) we have had success in defining lineage genetic profiles for colonial lines. Researchers who test and find they match receive more information about their heritage in most cases. I would love to tell you about the success stories. Our research project has a few thousand reports on line and over 50K e-mails archived. What you addressed in your interview was an example of a person doing what I call "jumping in the pool", no ancestry really traced, nothing much to work with to understand where the lines converged by those that match. This is my complaint about the "jump in the pool" approach which is encouraged by some businesses, but there is another side to the story. I hope you address it.
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by bruceabailey October 7, 2007 11:04 PM PDT
What struck me was the math of 20 generations. It demonstrated that in order to reduce the impact of global warming, we must reduce it''s root cause, over population.
The global benefits of saving water, using fluorescent light bulbs, using a hybrid car, etc., are pretty much wiped out by having more than one child. The largest carbon footprint come from a big family.
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by ababio1 October 7, 2007 11:30 PM PDT
Ms. Stall appears to have disappointed or confused Ms. West''s with her ancestry in Africa. Most of the hits provided by the DNA labs appear to zoom in on the West African countries of Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast and Senegal and with three different tribes. The consolation Ms. Stall should have given Ms. West was that it was colonial masters who placed artificial borders amongst these people, thus separating them and with time, some of these people may have morphed into different peoples and tribes. The fact of the matter is, and based on all three DNA results, Ms. West should take consolation that she hails from somewhere in West Africa, and any of those three tribes may have been before now, one people. That is what colonialism has done to the black person. Ms. West should be proud of that and shodl make every effort to apporach one of those tribes. She might be surprised what she may find out, if only she is ready
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by ababio1 October 7, 2007 11:31 PM PDT
Ms. Stall appears to have disappointed or confused Ms. West''s with her ancestry in Africa. Most of the hits provided by the DNA labs appear to zoom in on the West African countries of Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast and Senegal and with three different tribes. The consolation Ms. Stall should have given Ms. West was that it was colonial masters who placed artificial borders amongst these people, thus separating them and with time, some of these people may have morphed into different peoples and tribes. The fact of the matter is, and based on all three DNA results, Ms. West should take consolation that she hails from somewhere in West Africa, and any of those three tribes may have been before now, one people. That is what colonialism has done to the black person. Ms. West should be proud of that and shodl make every effort to apporach one of those tribes. She might be surprised what she may find out, if only she is ready
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by stickamw October 7, 2007 11:32 PM PDT
This segment was corrupt in its integrity.

I am a long-time genealogist and project administrator for one of the largest surname-based DNA projects in the world. I eagerly awaited this segment, expecting a great story about this fantastic genealogical tool. With just a glancing touch of the capabilities with Vy and Marion%u2019s great match, the story crossed to the dark side. Afterwards, and after getting my jaw off the floor, I wondered what happened to ethics in reporting.

The segment really had nothing to do with genealogy. It didn%u2019t explain how it%u2019s used in genealogy and it didn%u2019t include any commentary from a genetic genealogist. Ever see a space shuttle story that didn%u2019t mention astronauts?

No, it''s more sensational to have Hank Greely suggesting testing companies are barely treading above water in the pool of integrity. And Lesley, although only contributing 1.5% of my overall ancestry, my 4th-great-grandfather is still my 4th-great-grandfather.

The near-slanderous "fraud" comment crossed the line of reckless reporting. Most labs go to great lengths to ensure that people understand exactly what the testing will and will not do. Interestingly, this same DNA testing is good enough for the folks at National Geographic for determining human migrations and ancestry.
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by jimgggg-2009 October 7, 2007 11:36 PM PDT
I was told I had leukemia and needed a bone marrow transplant from a relative. That was in 1980 and a lot of national publicity followed when the courts refused to release my adoption or family history information to me. In my case, I was very lucky to survive several years and eventually got a transplant from an umrelated donor.

What you showed tonight might save lives of people in similar positions as the one I was in. Thank you for your story.
Jim George
jimgggg@aol.com
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by ababio1 October 7, 2007 11:49 PM PDT
Ms. Stall appears to have disappointed or confused Ms. West''s with her ancestry in Africa. Most of the hits provided by the DNA labs appear to zoom in on the West African countries of Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast and Senegal and with three different tribes. The consolation Ms. Stall should have given Ms. West was that it was colonial masters who placed artificial borders amongst these people, thus separating them and with time, some of these people may have morphed into different peoples and tribes. The fact of the matter is, and based on all three DNA results, Ms. West should take consolation that she hails from somewhere in West Africa, and any of those three tribes may have been before now, one people. That is what colonialism has done to the black person. Ms. West should be proud of that and shodl make every effort to apporach one of those tribes. She might be surprised what she may find out, if only she is ready
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by mdillow31 October 8, 2007 1:39 AM PDT
I feel that the DNA story by Lesley Stahl is slanted and a misrepresentation. In fact, 60 Minutes should do a follow up with more accurate information from contributions from those who have more experience in the field of DNA. It is not true that a person cannot test and get complete results. I have personally tested my mitochondrial DNA and received my full genome sequences. This includes HVR1, HVR2 and my Haplogroup, and the CR differences from CRS. By doing the full genome sequences I will never have to be tested again. In other words, I have received 100% of all results my mtDNA can give me on myself. Hank Greely comments are not justified on his remarks as to the companies. I hope 60 Minutes will do a second segment on the story of DNA and be more accurate in the reporting and include better information on this fascinating subject. I am glad there is a success story with Ms. Higginson and Mr. West. But if you care to check out the world of DNA more thoroughly you will find more success stories to add to this one.

Marianne Dillow
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by ericdobbs October 8, 2007 2:04 AM PDT
Surprise! We''re all human! We really are all "brothers and sisters," or at least cousins. I can think of no other national project of greater value than the tracing of Y chromosome and mitochondrial DNA of everyone in the USA. It wouldn''t cost that much, and the return would be incalculable. Perhaps then we could all look at one another as what we are: one human family. The geneticists know that our ancestors were once reduced to possibly as few as 1000 adult individuals - the "genetic bottleneck" - by some catastrophe dating to between 75,000 and 50,000 years ago. The best part of this story was the joy with which Mr. West greeted his family.
Eric Dobbs
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by ericdobbs October 8, 2007 2:13 AM PDT
Correction: I should not have said that geneticists "know" anything. The data indicate that we do all descend from a very narrow line of ancestors, male and female. The exact dynamic of this narrowing remains undetermined. The "Toba extinction event" (circa 74,000 BCE)is one of the hypotheses that have been offered to explain the close relationships among geographically diverse populations. Whatever the reason, our common genetic heritage has been demonstrated; the explanation is still pending.
Eric Dobbs
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by kinfolkarsc October 8, 2007 2:27 AM PDT
As one of those persons researching their family history and have used DNA test results as part of the research, I was looking forward to 60 Minutes tonight. I was extremely disappointed at what was shown. I found it quite interesting that the test used to determine Ms. Higginsen''s Caucasian ancestry was not questioned and taken as a matter of fact/truth. Only one company was used to determine Ms Higgensen Caucasian ancestry, Family TreeDNA. However, the results (from numerous companies) determining with whom she shared an African Ancestry were questioned because the results determined she shared an ancestry with different groups in West Africa. Ms. Stahl and researchers from CBS should go back and research the migration routes of man; especially Africans. Africans people for thousands of years have migrated across the African continent. Remember slavery with African being brought to West Africa to be bought and sold as slaves. That would probably explain Ms. Higgensen sharing ancestry with people of Senegal, Sierra Leone and other West African countries.

I have completed numerous DNA test. These tests have been invaluable in my research of my family history. After viewing this program, do I now question my DNA results from National Geographic''s Genographic Project whose goal is to trace human migration?

Finally was Mr. Greeley, the lawyer who specializes in the legal implications of new biomedical technologies really the expert to use on this program?
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by OrdinaryFolks October 8, 2007 2:41 AM PDT
Telling the story of American ancestry, particularly African-American ancestry, will always be a challenging task. As someone who did my African-American ancestors'' genealogy and found specific ethnic groups in specific villages in specific families in Ghana, then confirmed the people I found, using DNA comparisons in 2000, I was surprised to see that the CBS didn''t review the history of African ethnic groups -- of which groups are related in their history, migration and DNA, but are now settled in different countries. I recommend "The History and Geography of Human Genes," by population geneticist, L. Luca Cavalli-Sforza and others. CBS''s report on the Evening News in 2002, about how I used genealogy and DNA to find ancestors in Africa had a better tone about the hope for this new science.

These are stories about people who built families, and survived, against incredible odds. My genealogy and maternal and paternal DNA revealed three dozen African ethnic groups, one Middle Eastern and one European, yet reporters tell my European ancestors'' story in the most positive light -- despite the history of slavery. And few reporters other than CBS''s Russ Mitchell on the Evening News, Susan Saulny of the New York Times, and Alan Boyle of MSNBC.com, (which showed one of my Ghanaian cousins), have told the full African ancestry story, or the blended Colonial American ancestry story. I have to do that myself, and I am doing so in a book.
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by OrdinaryFolks October 8, 2007 3:09 AM PDT
A recent article about European, African and American ancestors (Part 1).

Financial Times, UK, Weekend Magazine -- First Person: Pearl Duncan -- "My Scottish ancestors were heroes"
By Sarah Ebner, Financial Times
Aug 18, 2007
When I started to look into my family tree, I couldn''t have imagined the conflict it would cause. I spent 10 years researching my ancestors, and a lot of people didn''t like what I had to say at the end of it. I''d tracked the cultural history that shaped my DNA in America, Europe and Africa, and discovered that not all white men in the British colonies who fathered children with black women in the 18th century were evil slavers. I found at least one ancestor who was an abolitionist and who did not abandon his children.
My family emigrated from Jamaica to New York when I was young, and I was always fascinated by where I had come from. My parents told me we were descended from the Maroons, or runaway slaves. Years later, when I went to our old family graves just outside Kingston, Jamaica, I couldn''t believe it when I found our birth and baptismal records dating back to the 1700s.
I now know that my roots are incredibly diverse: I am descended from slaves; from free people who worked and bought their freedom; from Maroon warriors who waged military rebellions in Jamaica against slavery; also from British merchants, and European and African nobility.
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by OrdinaryFolks October 8, 2007 3:10 AM PDT
A recent article about European, African and American ancestors (Part 2).

My Jamaican grandmother''s name was Rebecca Smellie and her ancestor was John Smellie, a Scottish merchant. In 1726 in Jamaica he had a child, George, with a "free negro" whose name was Ann Roberts. Even though there were penalties at that time - huge fines, deportation, imprisonment - for keeping records of black children, John Smellie left birth and baptism records with George''s name on them.
Three of John Smellie''s Scottish descendants settled in Jamaica on land he left them. One of them was called William Smellie and he died in 1800. He was an abolitionist, and when I found his will it showed that he left the maximum amount allowed under the slavery laws to his mixed-race children and their mother. Finding out about both these men changed everything for me. I had thought I was learning about the awful people who owned slaves, but instead I was discovering heroism, and people who stood up for what they thought was right.
I followed up these discoveries with research in Scotland, hiring Scottish genealogists and local historians. It turned out that John Smellie was of noble birth. I sent the records to the Court of The Lord Lyon, the heraldic authority for Scotland, which said I qualified for a coat of arms. I now have one that reflects the diversity of my ancestry.


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by OrdinaryFolks October 8, 2007 3:11 AM PDT
A recent article about European, African and American ancestors (Part 3).

My research also took me to Ghana. I tracked down dozens of ancestors and collected DNA from Ghanaian families whose names matched nicknames still used in my family. I spent a lot of time on the linguistic research, and DNA confirmed the connection. As far as I know, I was one of the first people in the world to use DNA in this way.
I''ve written a book about my research but publishers seem to think it''s too contentious to publish. Talking about black ancestors who rebelled apparently goes against how Americans see these people - slaves were victims, not rebels. Editors are happy to accept stories about slaves who escaped one at a time, but they don''t like the idea that they grouped together and stood up for themselves. That''s too threatening.
I''ve also learned that many black Americans are afraid, as I was initially, of finding a slave trader in their family tree, so they don''t really want to talk about their European ancestors. I got into trouble with my black friends for saying that John Smellie was a more caring man than many other colonials because he left a record of his child.
When you start looking into your genealogy, you have to come to terms with admirable and despicable behaviour, and that''s what I''ve done.
As told to Sarah Ebner.

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by forestdean October 8, 2007 4:17 AM PDT
I''ve been researching my family for over 40 years. Fotunately we had members from five generations living until I was a young man. I remember my first conversation with one of my great-grandmothers when I was seven years old, she wasa born in 1860.That was the first time I started to record my family history. Later I recorded the voices of some of our older family members. With the information I had gathered I was able to construct an accurate family tree not only listing family members but stories about them. When Genetic Genealogy became available it was very helpful in proving some of the earilest data I had gathered, primarily because places were mentioned. The Y-DNA and mtDNA can be very helpful if you use it along with the documention/records, history and other information you have gathered. I used Family Tree DNA and I was fully aware of fact that I could only trace my diect male and female lines..but that is what I wanted. I think you should do a program showing how these tests along with other research can be extremely helpful. Genetic Genealogy can be very helpful in helping African-Americans learn more about their ancestry if it is used along with other research. The results that you showed on your show gave me clues as to the heritage of Vy because I use a method that takes the results and narrows the likely core family group. That information was best presented by the family tree results which showed all of the matches....good for them!
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by forestdean October 8, 2007 4:18 AM PDT
I''ve been researching my family for over 40 years. Fotunately we had members from five generations living until I was a young man. I remember my first conversation with one of my great-grandmothers when I was seven years old, she wasa born in 1860.That was the first time I started to record my family history. Later I recorded the voices of some of our older family members. With the information I had gathered I was able to construct an accurate family tree not only listing family members but stories about them. When Genetic Genealogy became available it was very helpful in proving some of the earilest data I had gathered, primarily because places were mentioned. The Y-DNA and mtDNA can be very helpful if you use it along with the documention/records, history and other information you have gathered. I used Family Tree DNA and I was fully aware of fact that I could only trace my diect male and female lines..but that is what I wanted. I think you should do a program showing how these tests along with other research can be extremely helpful. Genetic Genealogy can be very helpful in helping African-Americans learn more about their ancestry if it is used along with other research. The results that you showed on your show gave me clues as to the heritage of Vy because I use a method that takes the results and narrows the likely core family group. That information was best presented by the family tree results which showed all of the matches....good for them!
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by forestdean October 8, 2007 4:19 AM PDT
I''ve been researching my family for over 40 years. Fotunately we had members from five generations living until I was a young man. I remember my first conversation with one of my great-grandmothers when I was seven years old, she wasa born in 1860.That was the first time I started to record my family history. Later I recorded the voices of some of our older family members. With the information I had gathered I was able to construct an accurate family tree not only listing family members but stories about them. When Genetic Genealogy became available it was very helpful in proving some of the earilest data I had gathered, primarily because places were mentioned. The Y-DNA and mtDNA can be very helpful if you use it along with the documention/records, history and other information you have gathered. I used Family Tree DNA and I was fully aware of fact that I could only trace my diect male and female lines..but that is what I wanted. I think you should do a program showing how these tests along with other research can be extremely helpful. Genetic Genealogy can be very helpful in helping African-Americans learn more about their ancestry if it is used along with other research. The results that you showed on your show gave me clues as to the heritage of Vy because I use a method that takes the results and narrows the likely core family group. That information was best presented by the family tree results which showed all of the matches....good for them!
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by forestdean October 8, 2007 4:21 AM PDT
I''ve been researching my family for over 40 years. Fotunately we had members from five generations living until I was a young man. I remember my first conversation with one of my great-grandmothers when I was seven years old, she wasa born in 1860.That was the first time I started to record my family history. Later I recorded the voices of some of our older family members. With the information I had gathered I was able to construct an accurate family tree not only listing family members but stories about them. When Genetic Genealogy became available it was very helpful in proving some of the earilest data I had gathered, primarily because places were mentioned. The Y-DNA and mtDNA can be very helpful if you use it along with the documention/records, history and other information you have gathered. I used Family Tree DNA and I was fully aware of fact that I could only trace my diect male and female lines..but that is what I wanted. I think you should do a program showing how these tests along with other research can be extremely helpful. Genetic Genealogy can be very helpful in helping African-Americans learn more about their ancestry if it is used along with other research. The results that you showed on your show gave me clues as to the heritage of Vy because I use a method that takes the results and narrows the likely core family group. That information was best presented by the family tree results which showed all of the matches....good for them!
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by forestdean October 8, 2007 4:24 AM PDT
I''m afraid your publish button isn''t working properly.
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by greeneyes222 October 8, 2007 9:39 AM PDT
"Greely says he has looked at several companies that are doing these tests. Asked if he thinks that they adequately explain the limitations, Greely says, "No. I don''t think any of them does as good a job of pointing out the limitations. But, you know, businesses often don''t go around telling you how weak their product is." "

That''s an important point, and applies to all ancestry, black, white, whatever.

These companies are pushing their services and databases to various family groups, and certain groups are using them to exclude rather than include family members. It''s a hot trend in genealogy, and like so many other things it''s prone to abuse and misrepresentation.

As it happens I have at least one black cousin, found the old fashioned way through documentation. Believe me, that''s fine - a cousin is a cousin. But as I hear more and more stories of people being told they "can''t" be related based on these services despite documented evidence to the contrary, I really question why these operators aren''t forced to disclose their limitations.
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by whjohnsonjr October 8, 2007 10:04 AM PDT
It''s nice to think that black and white people are connected by a distant benign white ancestor. Unfortunately, most of those white men were rapist of black slave women.

Don''t worry; I''m not calling for anything from whites. I only hope that the criminality of their distant ancestor has been sufficiently diluted. Maybe whites do as well.
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by scottsgen October 8, 2007 12:44 PM PDT
Yes, I agree, that was a heart warming story. I think if you have read about DNA Genealogy and Archaeology, you would see that we all (**** sapiens sapiens) originated in the African Rift Valley. Therefore, we all have African ancestors.

I just hope that this story doesn''t make other people hesitant to participate with DNA Genealogy. For genealogists, we hope that other people will participate more and more. How else will we find a match? So far, I only have one match, but with time and more people every day having their DNA tested, I may eventually find more matches.

Yes, the mtDNA is a difficult test to interpret, however the Y-DNA test is a good indicator for the direct paternal line (your surname only). That brings up another point of the origin of surnames. When you go so far back, there weren''t surnames. But so far, this is what we have, and you have to take for what it''s worth.

I just hope this program doesn''t deter people from testing. I sure would like to discover more relatives.
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by fitzhugh44 October 8, 2007 3:41 PM PDT
I was very disturbed by Leslie Stahl''s one droppist comment to Vy and Marion. She stated that both Vy and Marion looked nothing alike. I feel her comment was racist and was made only because Vy''s skin color is brown. It was quite obvious that Vy and her daughter and cousin who submitted the DNA were of mixed descent and multi-generational mulattoes like so many african american are but liberals deny this notion and hold on to the one drop rule. I was extremely offended and feel this should be addressed.
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by tbrahm18 October 8, 2007 5:30 PM PDT
I have recently submitted my DNA for testing through the National Geographics Genographic Project. I am very curious to see if it will tell me about my European Ashkenazi Jew and Christian genetic make up.
Your story on Genealogy was very informative. We have no idea who we are related to in this world. It would be a wonderful world if we could all see each other as relatives. Showing kindness and respect towards one another.
Please keep the world informed on your show about genealogy and genetics. Maybe more people would show an interest in knowing where they come from and who they may be related to.

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by mdeshazer-2009 October 8, 2007 5:41 PM PDT
As the story aired I grabbed a pen and pad hoping, during the segment, to pickup a few nuggets of additional information that would enlightened my own efforts in researching my family tree(already had DNA done by Rick Kittle''s organization). Instead, I came away really disappointed and aggitated because Leslie appeared to be trying to discredit the progress made in genetic genealogy. Why is that? I was also disappointed that you didn''t tie-in the National Geographic Project, the Genographic Project. This project, based on on-going genetic research, has direct relevence to understanding the relationship among humankind, and understanding migration patterns that have impacted all of our lives. You could have done better...
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by marclean1 October 8, 2007 8:00 PM PDT
I would like to know how to find to get dna results, if you have indian hertiage. Could someone please help.
margaret
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by thelucas October 8, 2007 8:39 PM PDT
Interesting program...it would have been nice if they mentioned more about The National Geographic Genographic Project https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html and the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation http://www.smgf.org/

My question, does any of this offer valuable information to those of us who have been adopted?
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by mdillow31 October 8, 2007 10:41 PM PDT
Did you ever consider early migration patterns when the DNA companies found several results for Ms. Higginson in Africa ? If you didn''t the staff at 60 Minutes should have, and it appears you didn''t. That is exactly why there were several results because people moved from one location to another. In other words the DNA companies were giving all matches found with Ms. Higginson''s DNA. I would have thought the investigative team at 60 Minutes would have thought of that. What does that mean ? It means the DNA companues gave Ms. Higginson every bit of information they could give her. As more people test their DNA and do the full genome sequences there will be a chance in the future with new technology by the scientific community that we will be able to pinpoint results better than today. DNA has only been on the horizon for about the last ten years. This could be compared with John Glenn making his first trip to outer space. It takes hard work and developing better technology to make advancements in DNA. This means that the DNA companies were not giving Ms. Higginson false information. 60 Minutes messed up on this story. Repition is the essence of learning and I think the 60 Minutes staff needs to study more on the DNA subject matter before a half-baked program is presented to the viewing public.

Marianne Dillow
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by rennieboy-2009 October 9, 2007 12:39 AM PDT
Hopefully, Leslie Stahl will consider another program showing the real benefits of DNA comparision. Most of us consider DNA testing a tool to verify what we do know and also what we might find out. Anyone with a mixed background has a clue as to where they came from, however there are surprises as well. We could learn from these examples of meeting others and forget the racial, ethnic, religious bias. We are genetic mixtures and we are Americans. We are blessed because of our forebears, wherever they originated, came to form a new country for everyone. We haven''t been perfect, but we can learn to accept different backgrounds.
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by angelzgrace October 9, 2007 12:39 PM PDT
Too bad, 60 minutes always has to go for the cheap shot. Leslie, a very poor piece and 60 minutes producers, you should get your facts straight. Autosomal testing, that the stuff between the mito and y-chrome, tells the percentages of Sub Saharan, Native American, Indo European and Asian and that would have shown that those two people, although related by mito and y, were very DISTANT cousins. Shame on 60 minutes. Furthermore, did you ever think to stop and explain how this testing is being used in health and forensics? Like tracking down serial killers???What''s wrong with you guys?
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by angelzgrace October 9, 2007 12:45 PM PDT
To the lady about Native American Heritage. Go to Trace Genetics. They have the largest Native American database and then don''t forget the autosomal test from DNAPrint Genomics, Inc. It''s called AncestryByDNA. You can find your tribe with mito (female) and y-chrom (male) tests. So you will need a male on which ever side of the family you believe your Native American originates. Good luck.
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by s06161934 October 9, 2007 6:16 PM PDT
I was disappointed in Lesley Stahl''s superficial and formulaic treatment of genetic genealogy. She picked an interesting, but slightly sensational, example (the Wests) and then brought in the predictable academic "expert" to cast aspersions on companies whose work he does not know firsthand. From my own extensive dealing with FamilyTreeDNA, the company that West used, I know that its president never overstates the significance of his results. Had Stahl really chosen to inform viewers about the genealogical useful information that may be gleaned from DNA testing, Bennett Greenspan (president of FamilyTreeDNA)could have provided numerous examples, one of which was published in AVOTAYNU, the International Review of Jewish Genealoy in its Summer 2007 issue.
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by jrecord2 October 9, 2007 6:42 PM PDT
Having had great success with both Y-DNA testing and mtDNA testing in locating missing family members and in discovering my true surname I was disapponited not to see a more positive light on this wonderful new means of genealogical verification. It is certainly more than the rumors and legends we relied upon before DNA came along. Cudos to all the hard work of the research!
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