Giuliani Campaign Touts Electability

Memo To Voters Pushes State Polls Showing He Would Be Strongest Republican Against Clinton

(AP)  Go home, Mitt Romney. Give it up, Fred Thompson. And John McCain, you missed your chance.

In a memo and electoral maps - designed to show perceived strengths and play down others' potential - Republican Rudy Giuliani's campaign tells voters there is only one alternative to a second Clinton administration.

No surprise: It's Giuliani.

"There is no candidate that Hillary Clinton and the Democrats fear more in the general election than Rudy Giuliani," Giuliani strategist Brent Seaborn wrote to supporters Tuesday.

And he says recent poll numbers show Giuliani will be the strongest Republican candidate in the general election. A series of maps comparing how Giuliani would fare against Clinton, compared with his Republican rivals, support Giuliani's electability, he argues.

One hypothetical electoral map gives the former New York mayor a guaranteed 210 electoral votes against Clinton, 60 short of what's needed to become president.

Seaborn maintains that if Giuliani and Clinton go head-to-head in November 2008, Clinton will be guaranteed wins in only Massachusetts and Vermont, and will have to devote resources in traditionally Democratic-leaning state and less time in states like Nevada, Colorado and Iowa.

"If Rudy is the nominee, Democrats will be forced to spend money in California, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Maryland, Michigan, New York and Washington - states that they have spent almost no money in over the last few election cycles," Seaborn writes.

A Clinton spokeswoman dismissed the Giuliani campaign's analysis. Polls show Clinton leading Giuliani in many states in head-to-head contests, including their shared home state of New York.

"What we're seeing across the country and in New York is that Hillary Clinton continues to beat Rudy Giuliani because he continues to embrace the failed policies of the Bush administration," Clinton spokeswoman Kathleen Strand said.

Giuliani's prediction in a Romney-Clinton match assures Republicans a failure even if Romney turns every swing state projected in that scenario, the Giuliani memo maintains.

A Romney spokeswoman said voters will turn away from Giuliani when they look at the mayor's complete record.

"We're going to make the case to voters that Governor Romney is the best candidate who can unite the party with a focus on fiscal conservatism, strong national security policies and strong families," said," said Romney spokeswoman Sarah Pompei.

Giuliani continues to see strong national name identification. He appears about even with Romney in key voting states, such as Iowa and New Hampshire. But Seaborn focuses on a general-election strategy.

The strategist goes on to predict Sen. John McCain's recent uptick has reached its end after a disastrous stretch of lackluster fundraising and staff departures.

"Senator McCain has rebounded from his summer lows but seems to have a limited potential for growth," Seaborn writes, despite a new poll in New Hampshire that shows a close, three-way race for the nomination.

A McCain spokeswoman said Giuliani misunderstands the electoral map.

"John McCain's strong grassroots campaign is clearly gaining momentum," said spokeswoman Crystal Benton. "His consistent conservative record, unmatched experience and demonstrated broad appeal make John McCain the best candidate to win in the general election."

Seaborn was less kind to another GOP rival.

"We have yet to see if Fred Thompson will try to compete as a regional or a national candidate," he writes. A Thompson spokesman did not respond to a message seeking comment.

[realpatriot1]

Wasn''t "electability" what Kerry was supposed to have going for him?

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[smirk5]

Good old Rudy. He''s so smart he decided to put the New York City Emergency Response Center in what what was considered one of the major terrorist targets in America, the World Trade Center. He says he''s the best guy to fight terrorism. And John Candy was a great guy to go to for diet tips.

[lars008-2009]

Posted by MyIDonCBS at 03:45 PM : Oct 03, 2007

are you trying to justify fascist nazi terrorislamist global jihad genocide of the non muslims of the world haji???

can you also tell me what religion was mud-ham-mad ali baba before he tried to convert to judaism???

[mcvet]

But I can hear the clueless say: My cross-dressing womenizer beats your closet lesbo any day.

This election is going to be about as clean and about issues as some of the classics of the distant past.

Posted by LawyerTom1 at 03:29 PM : Oct 03, 2007
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Well said! We are not electing a King as some would like, we are electing a Person who has the worst mess in our history to clean up. When you think of what awaits this person it makes your head swimn.

[marcodele]

Is Lars still around? I thought they finally caught him and put him back in.

[mcvet]

Oh Come on all you Religious Reich Freaks!! Swallow the little pride you have left after the Boy Toy Scandals!! You''ve already been treated like a two bit hooker by these Politician''s so why not competely sell out and elect the former MAYOR of NEW YORK!! LOL Let us all know that you and your "Family Values" were nothing but a fraud, we already know it anyway! Sieg Heil and Amen

[shingles1]

"Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die;"

Does posting comments on a Saturday (or Sunday) count?

[myidoncbs]

This is for Lars008. The Christian Bible demands that we kill all these people:

S) Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ''Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.'' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

I haven''t even made it to the New Testament, alas! There''s lots of murder and mayhem there, too!

It%u2019s stu-pid to wage war against people because SOME members of their religion are violent. What about that CHRISTIAN guy who went around murdering doctors? Should we condemn all Christians to death because of his violence? He was simply carrying out his interpretation of the Christian Bible, you know.

Leave the religious bigotry at home, Lars. And, please, stop trying to incite a war no one can win.

[myidoncbs]

This is for Lars008. The Christian Bible demands that we kill all these people:

R) Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
For the LORD had said to Moses, ''Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.'' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

Just one more...

[myidoncbs]

For Lars008:

Q) Infidels and *** Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other''s bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have *** and instead indulged in *** with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God''s death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

[myidoncbs]

For Lars008. The Bible demands that we kill all these people:

P) Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, ''Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,'' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)
2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.'' You may wonder, ''How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?'' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD''s name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

With so many death edicts in the Bible, why hasn%u2019t lars008 turned his sights on the Christians! Need more examples, Lars, or are you going to finally quit trying to start a war against all muslims?

[lawyertom1]

MyIDonCBS. Big amen, buddy. That''s the dude.

But I can hear the clueless say: My cross-dressing womenizer beats your closet lesbo any day.

This election is going to be about as clean and about issues as some of the classics of the distant past.

[myidoncbs]

For lars008:

O) Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD''s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother''s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD''s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD''s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD''s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

Do you need any more to get the point, Lars?

[myidoncbs]

This is for Lars008.
The Christian Bible demands that we kill all these people:

N) Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

More...

[myidoncbs]

This is for Lars008.
The Christian Bible demands that we kill all these people:

M) Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn''t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father''s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Tired yet, Lars? I''m certainly getting bored. Why don''t you EVER get bored of pasting in your crappola?

[myidoncbs]

For Lars008: The Bible demands that we kill all these people:

L) Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

More? There''s lots!

[myidoncbs]

For Lars008: The Bible demands that we kill all these people:

L) Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

More? There''s lots!

[condumism]

The facade of "Rudy the 9/11 Hero" won''t go on much longer. As in any braindead society as is now the USA, the lies of the Corporate media will eventually be exposed. This leaves a Mormon Cult member as the new front runner for the 2008 GOP nomination. Not even Southern hypocrits will be able to support a Mormon. Seems as though these Repuglicons are finally getting their due as the party with no direction, except to scare the hell out of their braindead base of lying, self-centered fools.

[myidoncbs]

This is for Lars008.
The Christian Bible demands that we kill all these people:

H) Death for Fornication
A priest''s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

I) Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

J) Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

K) Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Lots more to come...