WASHINGTON, Oct. 2, 2007

House Democrats Slam Blackwater In Hearing

Private Security Company Boss Under Fire For Deaths Of Iraqi Civilians

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    The Blackwater case sheds light on the problem of applying the law to contractors. Elizabeth Palmer reports no foreign security contractors have been prosecuted since the invasion.

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    A House committee has found that Blackwater was negligent in sending four contractors on a dangerous mission into Fallujah where they were killed and dismembered in 2004. David Martin reports.

    • Erik Prince, founder and CEO of private security firm Blackwater USA, before testifying to Congress Tuesday, Oct. 2, 2007.

      Erik Prince, founder and CEO of private security firm Blackwater USA, before testifying to Congress Tuesday, Oct. 2, 2007.  (CBS)

    • House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., delivers his opening remarks during a hearing of the committee on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Oct. 2, 2007, to examine the mission and performance of the private military contractor Blackwater in Iraq and Afghanistan.

      House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., delivers his opening remarks during a hearing of the committee on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Oct. 2, 2007, to examine the mission and performance of the private military contractor Blackwater in Iraq and Afghanistan.  (AP Photos/Susan Walsh)

    • Blackwater USA founder and CEO Erik Prince prepares to testify before Congress. Prince has defended his company against charges that it covered up Iraqi civilian deaths, Tuesday, Oct. 2, 2007.

      Blackwater USA founder and CEO Erik Prince prepares to testify before Congress. Prince has defended his company against charges that it covered up Iraqi civilian deaths, Tuesday, Oct. 2, 2007.  (CBS)

    • Members of a private security company pose on the rooftop of a house in Baghdad on Sept. 18, 2007.

      Members of a private security company pose on the rooftop of a house in Baghdad on Sept. 18, 2007.  (AFP/Getty)

    • Blackwater USA employees receive instruction along a make-shift street scene before practicing a vehicle ambush response drill in this Feb. 20, 2004, file photo, on Blackwater's land near Moyock, N.C.

      Blackwater USA employees receive instruction along a make-shift street scene before practicing a vehicle ambush response drill in this Feb. 20, 2004, file photo, on Blackwater's land near Moyock, N.C.  (AP Photo/Karen Tam)

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Prince acknowledged pilot error led to the crash, but also said his company's aviators often fly missions in difficult conditions. He said the military violated its own rules by loading people and explosives on Blackwater 61. But Blackwater flew the mission anyway because that's what its government customer wanted.

"There is no FAA in Afghanistan," he said.

Throughout the hearing, Prince defended his staff as courageously defending U.S. diplomats overseas. He said 30 Blackwater contractors have been killed in action and no Americans have died while in its protection.

"We're the targets of the same ruthless enemies that have killed more than 3,800 American military personnel and thousands of innocent Iraqis," he said, sitting alone at the witness table.

Directly behind Prince sat Stephen Ryan, an attorney with the law firm McDermott Will & Emery.

Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., the committee's top Republican, said the State Department is "trying to get it right," but its oversight of security contractors "seems to have some blind spots as well," according to his opening statement.

There's little data on contractor performance, Davis said, "so it's impossible to know if one company's rate of weapons related incidents is the product of a dangerous 'cowboy' culture or the predictable result of conducting higher-risk missions."

Davis said concentrating only on Blackwater won't answer the complex questions surrounding the use of security contractors.

"Nor are we likely to learn much by focusing on one sensational incident still under investigation," Davis said.

Prince rejected a claim in a congressional report released Monday, saying Blackwater does not engage in "offensive or military missions, but performs only defensive security functions."

He also disputed the math that concludes security contractors cost far more than American forces to protect U.S. diplomatic personnel. In its report, Waxman's committee said Blackwater charges the government $1,222 each day for a single security contractor, which works out to $445,000 on an annual basis. That's six times the cost of a U.S. soldier, the report said.

Prince said there's a large amount of expensive training for military personnel that the government pays for, but is not calculated in these unflattering estimates of what his company charges.

"That sergeant doesn't show up naked and untrained," Prince said.

Blackwater, founded in 1997 by Prince and headquartered in Moyock, N.C., is the largest of the State Department's three private security contractors with nearly 1,000 personnel working in Iraq. The others are Dyncorp and Triple Canopy, both based in Washington's northern Virginia suburbs.

Blackwater has had more shooting incidents than the other two companies combined, according to Waxman's report.

Among the Monday report's most serious charges was that Blackwater contractors sought to cover up a June 2005 shooting of an Iraqi man and the company paid - with State Department approval the families of others inadvertently killed by its guards.


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by lastdance2 October 3, 2007 11:37 AM EDT
yessss haji,,, This fascist nazi terrorislam global jihad war is unjust.

the iraqi war is legal, demonic-rat hero al bore says so,,, it actually never ended since it only stopped by the signing of a ceasefire,,, just like the korean war,,,

the resumption of hostilities was only a matter of time since iraq broke the ceasefire agreement,,,

blame saddam for iraq,,, Even clintoon and the dems wanted the resumption of hostilities back in 1998,,,

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq''''s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

Moreover, no international law can prevent the United States from taking actions to protect its vital interests, when it is manifestly clear that there is a choice to be made between law and survival. I believe, however, that such a choice is not presented in the case of Iraq. Indeed, should we decide to proceed, that action can be justified within the framework of international law rather than outside it. In fact, though a new UN resolution may be helpful in building international consensus, the existing resolutions from 1991 are sufficient from a legal standpoint. - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/go
re/gore092302sp.html

Posted by lars008 at 11:24 AM : Oct 02, 2007
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by lastdance2 October 3, 2007 11:34 AM EDT
dont you just hate these stupid silly little fascist nazi terrorislamic muslims pretending to be liberal Americana,,, and begging for the usa to leave iraq,,, lol,,, they must be really getting their arses kicked,,, hahahahahaha,,,

and these fascist nazi terrorislamic muslim collaborators,,,

Posted by lars008 at 09:56 AM : Oct 02, 2007
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by lastdance2 October 3, 2007 11:33 AM EDT
If Democrats Had Any Brains, They''''''''d Be Republicans
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Posted by lars008 at 09:22 AM : Oct 02, 2007
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by lastdance2 October 3, 2007 11:29 AM EDT
it is fascist nazi terrorislam stupid,,,

non muslims of the world unite,,, fight against the tyranny of the fascist nazi terrorslam imperialist empire of the darkside,,,

I was a fanatic...I know their thinking, says former radical Islamist
By blaming the Government for our actions, those who pushed this "Blair''''''''''''''''s bombs" line did our propaganda work for us.
More important, they also helped to draw away any critical examination from the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.
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Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?r

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bia%20pagan

the truth about fascist nazi terrorislam...
http://www.terrorismawar
eness.org/what
-really-happened/

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ted by lars008 at 09:17 AM : Oct 02, 2007
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by lastdance2 October 3, 2007 11:28 AM EDT
Sign this Appeal.This site is an Appeal For Redress in support of our mission in Iraq.An Appeal For Redress is an authorized means for active duty military to submit a grievance to Congress. It can be signed by Active Duty, Reserve, or National Guard military personnel.It is authorized by DoD Directive 1325.6 and DoD Directive 7050.6.The wording of the Appeal for Redress is: As an American currently serving my nation in uniform, I respectfully urge my political leaders in Congress to fully support our mission in Iraq and halt any calls for retreat. I also respectfully urge my political leaders to actively oppose media efforts which embolden my enemy while demoralizing American support at home. The War in Iraq is a necessary and just effort to bring freedom to the Middle East and protect America from further attack.If you are active duty, reservist or national guard, please Sign this Appeal.Most service members fully support the war in Iraq and feel calls to retreat by Congress and attacks by our media on our conduct and mission act to motivate our enemy while demoralizing our support at home, directly increasing the threat we face and resulting in greater American casualties. This Appeal for Redress provides a way in which individual service members can appeal to Congress to fully support us and actively oppose media attacks on our mission and our morale.This Appeal will be delivered to members of Congress.http://www.appealforcourage.org/

Posted by lars008 at 05:34 PM : May 19, 2007
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by October 3, 2007 11:15 AM EDT
Hey lars008, you forgot to mention the "conservative terrorist".

The "conservative terrorist" is one who believes in slaughtering innocent lives - the "enemy" and/or their own people - while raking in the bucks through corruption and illegal dealings.

The "conservative terrorist" is the worst kind of terrorist - they will stoop as low as selling out their own countrymen just as long as it makes them a dollar.

They will lie to get their way, and when faced with the truth, they will continue to spew forth lies that result in the deaths of tens or hundreds of thousands of innocent lives.

Their sole belief is money at any cost.

Just like cockroaches, they live their lives amongst their own diseased and destructive kind, feeding on others.

They will even stoop as low as to eat their own if they sense they are weak or no longer prepared to act in the shadows.

They are best dealt with swiftly through the use of a boot and swift downward motion.

Unlike cockroaches, however, they are usually dirty and leave a stench behind that will last for decades, causing a great many deaths caused by their poisonous beliefs.

Examples of "conservative terrorists" include GW Bush, ******** Cheney, Karl Rove etc.
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by sharncedar October 3, 2007 11:00 AM EDT
Some folks are born, made to wave the flag,
ooh, that red white and blue
and when the band plays hail to the chief,
don''t they point the cannon at you

some folks inherit star spangled eyes
they send you down to war
and when you ask them, "how much can we give?"
the only answer is, "more"

Fortunate Son, CCR
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by lars008-2009 October 3, 2007 10:52 AM EDT
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW WHAT FASCISM IS ALL ABOUT NEED ONLY READ THIS!!
Posted by MCVet at 07:16 AM : Oct 03, 2007

FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM / PERFECT EXAMPLE OF FASCISM!!!

Fascist nazi terrorislam is intent on killing or enslaving all non muslims......

Why is there no muslim country that grants equal rights to non muslim citizens???

The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems.

Simply stated, a fascist government always has one class of citizens that is considered superior (good) to another (bad) based upon race, creed or origin. It is possible to be both a republic and a fascist state. The preferred class lives in a republic while the oppressed class lives in a fascist state.
http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/Structure3.htm
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by gkc99 October 3, 2007 10:47 AM EDT
One thing seems certain about Blackwater--it''s a nice roundtrip flow of money from the US taxpayer, via no-bid contracts to the Blackwater Endtimers, back to the Repug party. No way will Bushit stand still as his darlings are attacked! Expect some executive pardons if anyone gets too inquisitive how things are handled by the Bushit Cabinet.

And these Blackwater folks can be real handy if any Americans start getting uppity about the fascist takeover--you will be shot!
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by drummer94 October 3, 2007 10:21 AM EDT
Ahh misguided lars008. Still can''t see the fact that folks like you are the terrorists that want to bring my country to it''s knees. See how it is being done lars? Oh,READ your "posts".
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by mcvet October 3, 2007 10:16 AM EDT
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW WHAT FASCISM IS ALL ABOUT NEED ONLY READ THIS!! This poor simple minded loser actually believes that anyone who doesn''t follow the Fuhrer and the Party is a "Terrorist". To him the Fuhrer and the Party can not be wrong. These are the same people that made Hitler possible. SIEG HEIL BUSH!!


New Trend On The Rise: The Patriotic Terrorist

Are you a patriotic terrorist?

If you are intensely critical of the US, while tolerating homicidal enemies who condemn everything you previously claimed you are for - human rights, voting rights, gay rights, women''''''''s rights, porn - then you''''''''re a patriotic terrorist.

If you talk about tolerance constantly - and hilariously tolerate genocide and suicide bombers because those actions undermine your more intimate opposition, the American right - then you''''''''re a patriotic terrorist.

The only difference between a patriotic terrorist and a real one? Real terrorists are simply patriotic terrorists who''''''''ve taken the extra step - choosing to actually die for their beliefs - rather than simply talking about them at Spago. If Tim Robbins, Sean Penn, Michael Moore, and their ilk had real cojones, they''''''''d all be wearing cute black vests - but stuffed with more than dog-eared copies of Deterring Democracy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co

m/greg-gutfeld/new-trend-on-the-rise-t
_b_39594.ht
Posted by lars008 at 05:48 AM : Oct 03, 2007
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by lars008-2009 October 3, 2007 10:10 AM EDT
Posted by brianbwb at 06:36 AM : Oct 03, 2007

the war is legal, demonic-rat hero al bore says so,,,

the resumption of hostilities was only a matter of time since iraq broke the ceasefire agreement,,,

blame saddam for iraq,,, Even clintoon and the dems wanted the resumption of hostilities back in 1998,,,

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq''s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

Moreover, no international law can prevent the United States from taking actions to protect its vital interests, when it is manifestly clear that there is a choice to be made between law and survival. I believe, however, that such a choice is not presented in the case of Iraq. Indeed, should we decide to proceed, that action can be justified within the framework of international law rather than outside it. In fact, though a new UN resolution may be helpful in building international consensus, the existing resolutions from 1991 are sufficient from a legal standpoint. - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html
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by brianbwb-2009 October 3, 2007 9:36 AM EDT
It does not matter to either group that the withdrawal from Iraq will make post-Vietnam look like an afternoon at Ikea shopping for a Hoggbo innerspring mattress. Posted by lars008,

Finally, something other than cut and paste, good to see you''re beginning to learn to think on your own.

BUT, a more accurate definition of "patriotic terrorist" is one who agrees with the illegal invasion of another country, and the terrorizing and murder of its'' citizens, simply because the leader of the invading country says it is the "patriotic" thing to support.

The "patriotic terrorist" ignores the fact all the reasons stated by his leader have been proven to be lies, and posits to continue the mistake, because withdrawal will cause misery to people for which the "P.T." was only earlier advocating extermination, based on religious intolerance.
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by lars008-2009 October 3, 2007 8:48 AM EDT
New Trend On The Rise: The Patriotic Terrorist

Are you a patriotic terrorist?

If you are intensely critical of the US, while tolerating homicidal enemies who condemn everything you previously claimed you are for - human rights, voting rights, gay rights, women''''s rights, porn - then you''''re a patriotic terrorist.

If you talk about tolerance constantly - and hilariously tolerate genocide and suicide bombers because those actions undermine your more intimate opposition, the American right - then you''''re a patriotic terrorist.

The only difference between a patriotic terrorist and a real one? Real terrorists are simply patriotic terrorists who''''ve taken the extra step - choosing to actually die for their beliefs - rather than simply talking about them at Spago. If Tim Robbins, Sean Penn, Michael Moore, and their ilk had real cojones, they''''d all be wearing cute black vests - but stuffed with more than dog-eared copies of Deterring Democracy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co
m/greg-gutfeld/new-trend-on-the-rise-t_b_39594.html
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by lars008-2009 October 3, 2007 8:47 AM EDT
New Trend On The Rise: The Patriotic Terrorist

-For patriotic terrorists and real terrorists, car bombs going off is music to their ears. It proves that you can''''t offer democracy to troubled countries, as long as you''''ve got terrorists standing in your way. And that''''s great news for everyone who believes in checks and balances between the haves and the have nots! (Note: "haves" means the US. "Have nots" means those who hate the US)

-Patriotic terrorists and the more committed terrorists both believe that infractions at Guantanamo Bay are far worse than anything a genocidal dictator could muster, and such horrors possess far more PR potential in denigrating the US than anything involving Ed Begley Jr.

-Both patriotic terrorists and Al Qaeda terrorists believe the US desires to control the Middle East, empower evil Israel and expand it''''s power base at the expense of innocent Arab lives. But both groups also realize that the US is too stupid to achieve these goals - and that makes being a patriotic terrorist loads of fun!

Are you a patriotic terrorist?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-g
utfeld/new-trend-on-the-rise-t_b_39594.html
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by lars008-2009 October 3, 2007 8:45 AM EDT
New Trend On The Rise: The Patriotic Terrorist

Patriotic terrorists love America with so much intensity that it appears to the untrained eye that they hate it. But it''''s actually the most powerful form of "tough love" known to man, woman and Rosie O''''Donnell. Patriotic terrorists love America so much that they realize it needs an intervention - and real terror is the only way to enable that intervention. In fact, to keep a mammoth, arrogant superpower like America in check, terrorism is the only thing we''''ve got. Noam Chomsky knew this from the start, making him a patriotic terrorist of the highest order.

This is why he gets the chicks.

Hey, I bet you''''ve probably wondered why Al Qaeda hasn''''t struck in the US since 9/11. They don''''t have to. It has its own offshoot franchise here at work already. Patriotic Terrorists.

Think about how much both groups have in common!

-Both patriotic terrorists and Al Qaeda want the US to abandon Iraq, for that reveals Bush and America to be monstrous, laughable failures. It does not matter to either group that the withdrawal from Iraq will make post-Vietnam look like an afternoon at Ikea shopping for a Hoggbo innerspring mattress.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-gut
feld/new-trend-on-the-rise-t_b_39594.html
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by lars008-2009 October 3, 2007 8:44 AM EDT
New Trend On The Rise: The Patriotic Terrorist

Whenever I visit this lovely blog, I usually run into someone - a "leftist," if you will - who finds pleasure in things that make our country or the President look bad. I suppose I could say these angry types are no better than cheerleaders for terrorism. After all, both entities - the left and terrorists - seem to share the same desire: to put the US, humiliatingly, in its place.


But I would be wrong to say such things. Very wrong. Of course, "dissent is patriotic," and the left is only critical of America because it simply loves our country much more than I do.


That''''s why calling them terrorists would be intolerant and pretty shameful.

But what about "patriotic terrorists?"

That''''s kinda neat.

What is a patriotic terrorist?

It is an American who claims to love his or her country while enjoying the enemy''''s success against said country. It is a person who gets deeply offended if you question their patriotism, while also appearing to share the same ideals of the more spirited folk who like to blow up innocent people.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-gut
feld/new-trend-on-the-rise-t_b_39594.html
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by lars008-2009 October 3, 2007 8:43 AM EDT
hahaha

where is the problem,,, they did their job,,,

not one of the people they were hired to protect died,,,

but many of their emplyees died while protecting them,,,
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by lastdance2 October 3, 2007 8:22 AM EDT
Where are the Criminal Charges ? ? - Murder was once a - Criminal Act
The FBI will - Never Issue or Provide Criminal Charges

What other Law-Enforcement agency would support and assist in

Shipping war materials and Weapons to the Enemies of the United States
Commiting Atrocities against Children within Juvenile Detention Centers
Ordering its own Subordinates to Deliver Children for S*e*x
Refusing to say No - To a Criminal Order (illegal wiretaps - surveillance)
The Federal Drug Smuggling - Money-Laundering Operations
The Selling and Instructions about to use Nuclear Weapon Technology
Hiding and Suppressing Evidence against Federial Child and Homosexual Predators
Delivering Fraudulent Reports to Falsely Advocate a War
The Complete and Total - Disregard and the Destruction of the Constitution
To create a Monopoly on Oil in order to Control the World''s Economy

This is the same organization who will be Beat its Breast and Proclaim -
"We are the Vanguards of Democracy"
(what a line of - Bull)

The FBI is so Corrupt with - Contemptible Disgusting Acts of Nepotism and Patronization
within its own ranks - It cannot Function as an Independent : Law Enforcement Agency

The FBI needs to be Eradicated - Rebuilt with People with some Morals - Ethics
and Patriotic Values - As it stands now - the FBI - has None of these Qualities

To Patronize and Fraternize - The Republican (Nazi) Party is
The only Real - Job Description - of the FBI

Lastdance
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by drummer94 October 3, 2007 8:09 AM EDT
s-pukenup: when is loony-toon gonna let the congress do something? Veto is all shrub knows. It''s not a mob-thing George.
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