FBI To Probe Blackwater Shooting

Investigation Launched Amid Report Detailing Contractor's Widespread Violations

(CBS/AP)  Amid questions of reckless behavior by U.S contractors, the FBI is sending a team to Iraq to investigate the role of Blackwater USA in last month's shoot-out in Baghdad that killed 11 Iraqis, an FBI spokesman said Monday.

FBI Special Agent Richard Kolko said the agency was making the move at the request of the State Department to examine evidence in the Sept. 16 shooting and to pursue possible criminal charges in light of allegations that guards working for Blackwater might have shot innocent Iraqi citizens.

The FBI's involvement in the Blackwater investigation raises the possibility the private security contractor and its employees could face criminal charges, reports CBS News correspondent Bob Orr.

"The results of the investigation will be reviewed for possible criminal liability and referred to the appropriate legal authority," Kolko said.

Meanwhile, the head of Blackwater, Erik Prince, will face questions about the shootings Tuesday at a hearing on Capitol Hill, adds Orr.

Private security contractor Blackwater USA has had to fire 122 people over the past three years for problems ranging from misusing weapons, alcohol and drug violations, inappropriate conduct, and violent behavior, according to a report released Monday by a congressional committee.

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Read The House Committee's Report

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That total is roughly one-seventh of the work force that Blackwater has in Iraq, a ratio that raises questions about the quality of the people working for the company.

The report, prepared by the majority staff of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, also says Blackwater has been involved in 195 shooting incidents since 2005, or roughly 1.4 per week.

In more than 80 percent of the incidents, called "escalation of force," Blackwater's guards fired the first shots even though the company's contract with the State Department calls for it to use defensive force only, it said.

"In the vast majority of instances in which Blackwater fired shots, Blackwater is firing from a moving vehicle and does not remain at the scene to determine if the shots resulted in casualties," according to the report.

The staff report paints Blackwater as a company that's made huge sums of money despite its questionable performance in Iraq, where Blackwater guards provide protective services for U.S. diplomatic personnel.

Blackwater has earned more than $1 billion from federal contracts since 2001, when it had less than $1 million in government work. Overall, the State Department paid Blackwater more than $832 million between 2004 and 2006 for security work, according to the report.

Blackwater, founded in 1997 and headquartered in Moyock, N.C., is the biggest of the State Department's three private security contractors. The others are Dyncorp and Triple Canopy, both based in Washington's northern Virginia suburbs.

According to the 15-page report, Blackwater has had more shooting incidents than the other two companies combined.

Blackwater spokeswoman Anne Tyrrell had no comment on the specifics in the report.

"We look forward to setting the record straight on this issue and others tomorrow when Erik Prince testifies before the committee," she said.

On Friday seven of the oversight committee's 18 Republican members called on Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., the panel's chairman, to postpone the hearing until more is known about a recent incident in Iraq involving Blackwater guards.

On Sept. 16, 2007, 11 Iraqis were killed in a shoot-out involving Blackwater guards protecting a U.S. diplomatic convoy in Baghdad. Blackwater says its guards acted in self-defense after the convoy came under attack. Iraqi witnesses have said the shooting was unprovoked.

Several investigations are under way, including one by the State Department and another by a U.S.-Iraqi commission that is also examining the broader issue of how private security contractors in Iraq operate.

In a Sept. 28 letter, Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., and six other Republicans said the committee should wait until these investigations are complete.

"We feel it would be irresponsible for the committee to rush to judgment until all the facts are considered," the letter states.

Rep. Tom Davis or Virginia, the committee's top Republican, did not sign the letter.

Spokesman Brian McNicoll said Davis has no objection to the hearing taking place because several State Department representatives are scheduled to testify.

In addition to Prince, the witnesses include: David Satterfield, the department's Iraq coordinator, Richard Griffin, assistant secretary for diplomatic security, and William H. Moser, deputy assistant secretary for logistics management.

[bobgee_1999]

Jeepers, mercenaries acting out? Hard to believe. The U.S.using these "private military" companies is a wierd, unsettling and dangerous trend.

[lochlan-2009]

"Violations Pervasive At Blackwater"
You think? They are a group of "keep your mouth shut" criminals lead by government connected war profiteers.

[xzavierbrown]

warfare is brutal..it brings the worse in any man.

learn to accept it....

[signof4]

Ooooo.....no good bombings or bodies to report, so I guess they''re having to dig deep for bad news to cry about. (AP) = anti-social progressive

[marcodele]

....and yet the neocons wonder why most of the world hates us...

[alphaa10-2009]

CBS reports, "Blackwater has earned more than $1 billion from federal contracts since 2001, when it had less than $1 million in government work. Overall, the State Department paid Blackwater more than $832 million between 2004 and 2006 for security work, according to the report."
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$832 million? Not a bad gig for a bunch of trigger-happy cowboys.

[antoniof123]

Jeepers, mercenaries acting out? Hard to believe. The U.S.using these "private military" companies is a wierd, unsettling and dangerous trend.

Posted by bobgee_1999 at 03:57 PM : Oct 01, 2007

We have a saying about mercs don''t ever trust them and never take your eyes off of them less you want to die.

[xzavierbrown]

....and yet the neocons wonder why most of the world hates us...


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the world hated you EVEN BEFORE 9/11..


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Posted by tuckerndfw at 04:17 PM : Oct 01, 2007
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how come I am not suprised about your thoughts..what puzzles me is that you are still living here...

[wfbdem]

warfare is brutal..it brings the worse in any man.

learn to accept it....

Posted by xzavierbrown

Sounds like you support the attack on 9/11. It was only war, learn to accept it. Spoken like a true terrorist loving, anti american Neo-con.

[forthepeopl1]

thats our tax dollars. they dont have to answer to anyone but the state dept..in other word rice,cheney/bush team nothing will change..if this was something with one of our troops they would of been in the brige..locked up..waiting trial.

so why hasn''t this happen..!!!!!!!

[signof4]

and yet the neocons wonder why most of the world hates us...
Posted by marcodele at 04:16 PM : Oct 01, 2007

Actually, the neocons don''t give a rip about why or whether ''the world'' hates us or not. Only bedwetting libs who hate their own country seem to care about that horse squeeze.

[macusweil]

Who needs Saddam we we have Bush''s own "Republican Guard"..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nqM4tKPDlR8

A bunch of right-wing-nut neo.con thugs bilking the US taxpayer of billions.

[xzavierbrown]

Sounds like you support the attack on 9/11. It was only war, learn to accept it. Spoken like a true terrorist loving, anti american Neo-con.


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Posted by wfbdem at 04:27 PM : Oct 01, 2007
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bottomline it is NOT THE WARFARE...but on WHO YOU SUPPORT in this warfare..AND IT SEEMS YOU ALREADY MADE UP YOUR MIND..dont fret I am sure allah will have some virgins for ya.

[xzavierbrown]

thats our tax dollars. they dont have to answer to anyone but the state dept..in other word rice,cheney/bush team nothing will change..if this was something with one of our troops they would of been in the brige..locked up..waiting trial.

so why hasn''''t this happen..!!!!!!!


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Posted by forthepeopl1 at 04:28 PM : Oct 01, 2007
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its the pentagon reacting to the liberal masses constant whinning about soldiers dying...well there is your solution, I mentioned that warfare is brutal..

but how come I have this gutt feeling that you really never did give diddly about our soldiers but just on the fact that you can whine about it...

you can have your cake but does not mean you can eat it...carefull of what you wish for.

[macusweil]

They tried to impeach President Clinton for alleged Whitewater abuse, they should definitely impeach Bush Jr for Blackwater crimes!!

[alphaa10-2009]

SignOf4 said, "...so I guess they''''re having to dig deep for bad news to cry about. (AP) = anti-social progressive"
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Actually, the anti-social guys are the ones who alienate hearts and minds wherever they go. Is this "supporting the troops"?

No wonder most Iraqis consider Blackwater proof America has no ambitions at all for building democracy, only a lust for Iraqi oil.

As if Blackwater were not enough bad news, Bush is trying to push the Iraqi parliament into approval of his 33-pages of text giving Iraqi oil to foreign oil firms.

[xzavierbrown]

Posted by tuckerndfw at 04:38 PM : Oct 01, 2007
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what I am opposed to is your constant argument that terrorists ARE COVERED UNDER THE US CONSTITUTION.


HAHAHHAHAHAH....

why dont do you revert to your past post and you tell me who seems to have a hard on with dictatorships..(not unless you dont know what a dictatorship is)

well here is one for your ALLEGED dictatorship..you can prevent it in 2008....when will iran, syrians and the rest of your pervieced ideal nations ALLOW ITS CITIZENS the same gratitious whinning you seem to be enjoying..(hummm is whinning allowed here..well you whinning so it means..YOU ARE WRONG..)

[xzavierbrown]

Posted by tuckerndfw at 04:40 PM : Oct 01, 2007
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***AS ALWAYS YOUR ARSE IS WAY AHEAD OF YOUR BRAIN..

the president can declare war IF ATTACKED. HERE IS A HINT FOR YA....PEARL HARBOR..

[signof4]

''Oh black water keep on rollin''......''

[lars008-2009]

it is fascist nazi terrorislam stupid,,,

non muslims of the world unite,,, fight against the tyranny of the fascist nazi terrorslam imperialist empire of the darkside,,,

I was a fanatic...I know their thinking, says former radical Islamist
By blaming the Government for our actions, those who pushed this "Blair''''''''s bombs" line did our propaganda work for us.
More important, they also helped to draw away any critical examination from the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770

Bless the Beasts and Children
Fascist nazi terrorslam kills every man woman and child in the village again%u2026 typical mo for terrorslam%u2026
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/bless-the-beasts-and-children.htm

Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20arabia%20pagan

the truth about fascist nazi terrorislam...
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what-really-happened/

[xzavierbrown]

Posted by xzavierbrown at 04:47 PM : Oct 01, 2007

On the contrary, you are now claiming that US sponsored mercenaries gunning down innocent men, women and children is well within what you consider lawful behavior.


Based on my observations of various news reporting agencies, Iranians, Syrians & Lebanese regularly protest various issues. But, that is irrelevant to the fact you and your treasonous associates oppose the US Constitution and rule of law.



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Posted by tuckerndfw at 04:51 PM : Oct 01, 2007
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I open my post with "warfare is brutal" tell me one instance in man''s history that what you are hearing never happened...it all boils down to who you support..I know you are not that naive to think that if given the chance (which is obvious enough) your buddies will not even loose sleep in executing women and children..

and where do you get your news?? al jazerrah??(SP)

[lastdance2]

lars008

Get off the net

[lars008-2009]

LOOK WHO IS TARGETING CIVILIANS!!!

Qaeda warns of attacks ''worse than 9/11''
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070530102648.wuwa6k96&show_article=1

Hizbullah Deputy Sec-Gen Sheikh Naim Qassem: We Have Jurisprudent Permission to Carry Out ''Martyrdom'' Operations, Fire Missiles on Israeli Civilians From Ayatollah Khomeini
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154907

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108
American Al Qaeda Member Threatens Attack
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/29/terror/main2865282.shtml

[ivandrago]

The state department should clear up what''s the truth about this incident. At least one U.S. satellite must have caught some of the action.

I wouldn''t take Blackwater''s word for anything at this moment. Their words is as good as an Iraqi cop. That''s not good. Self interest is a human instinct that seems to overpower moral judgement in these situations.

[lars008-2009]

NONE OF US IS FREE UNLESS ALL ARE FREE!

None Of Us Are Free - Lynyrd Skynyrd
http://www.lyrics007.com/Lynyrd%20Skynyrd%20Lyrics/None%20Of%20Us%20Are%20Free%20Lyrics.html

WHY IS IT NOT ONE MUSLIM COUNTRY GRANTS EQUAL RIGHTS TO NON MUSLIMS?

FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM SAYS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATES ISLAM LAW...

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

For example, in 1981, the Iranian representative to the United Nations, Said Rajaie-Khorassani, articulated the position of his country regarding the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by saying that the UDHR was "a secular understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition", which could not be implemented by Muslims without trespassing the Islamic law.

http://www.un.org/terrorism/
http://www.un.org/terrorism/strategy-counter-terrorism.html
http://www.un.org/

nBut the accepted assumption in India is that most of India''s Muslims were converted to Islam through the sword. Meaning the Indians were given an option between death or adopting Islam. The third option was getting examined in Islam religion along with heavy taxes- Jeziya (poll tax) and Kharaj (property tax).
http://adaniel.tripod.com/Islam.htm

this is what fascist nazi islam calls peace....

are you ready to live under islam rule as a non muslim???

apartheid fascist nazi islamic style

Rights of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/islamic_state.htm

[xzavierbrown]

Posted by tuckerndfw at 04:54 PM : Oct 01, 2007
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ahhhh history according to tuckerndfw..let me guess..hitler never existed..pearl harbor never happened..why dont you think it took that attack before we can officially enter wwIII??because congress voted it out..we were on isolationistic mode then

[lastdance2]

RE : xzavierbrown - You have an - Profound Identity Problem

Blackwater is a Security Guard Company - Not - a Authentic - Genuine Military Force

It doesn''t have any Creditability - For you - To to indicate : The company is fighting a war

*** DeVos, a Republican and Amway Corp.
Heir who unsuccessfully ran for Governor in 2006.

Amway Corp is - Barred from doing business in several States
Because of Excessive - Business Fraud -
Particularly in the Hiring Pratices - Promising all forms of Fortuities and Benefits -
Then gives nothing -

Sevreral of the Companies Listed here - Are Strongly Suspected in taking part
In the - International - Child - S*e*x* - Slave Operations and Pratices
Also in the - International Human Slave - Trafficking Operations
Areas of Operation - Middle East- Eastern Russia-The Netherlands
I first became aware - of its possible existince in - August - October 1989

Lastdance

[bogusbones]

These rogue contractors, who''s numbers in Iraq almost equal the regular armed forces, operate under an entirely different set of rules than our military. The billions spent on and with these para military operations are probably not reported as part of expeditures as well.
This is an administration that is running amuck and beware of the saber rattling regarding Iran. We''re digging ouselves deeper and deeper into a no win and very hard to extricate situation.
Bush and his neo con cronies are going to ruin us or leave an extremely messy situation to the next administration and...
All the while he''s trying to polish up his tarnished legacy. What hath his God wrought us?

[Razzl]

I don''t see how the Bush administration can stave off legal action under war crimes and crimes against humanity treaties, or stave off proceedings in international tribunals which the US had a hand in creating such as the international courts in Italy and the Hague, when these actions were committed by non-military personnel outside US jurisdiction. Opening the door with cases against these mercenaries opens up the whole war crimes issue that Cheney and his co-defendants have been working so hard to build a legal wall against by offering up unconstitutional permissions and legal fictions that the Republican Congress was willing to grant them. All those who thought lawyers could paper over their sadism have a rough future ahead as they are disabused of that notion...

[taddles-2009]

"ahhhh history according to tuckerndfw..let me guess..hitler never existed..pearl harbor never happened..why dont you think it took that attack before we can officially enter wwIII??because congress voted it out..we were on isolationistic mode then
Posted by xzavierbrown at 04:58 PM : Oct 01, 2007"


First, It was WWII not WWIII. Second, the President has no constitutional authority to declare war under any circumstances, however he has authority as Commander in Chief to use the military to defend the US against attack. Third, there was never a vote by Congress prior to the attack at Pearl Harbor to authorize war so your comment about Congress voting that out is simply wrong. Congress declared war against Japan immediately after Pearl Harbor.

[macusweil]

Dirty deeds, but not dirt cheap.. these Blackwater guys are milking the government in the tune of Billions!!

[johngress]

the accepted assumption in India is that most of India''''s Muslims were converted to Islam through the sword. Meaning the Indians were given an option between death or adopting Islam. The third option was getting examined in Islam religion along with heavy taxes- Jeziya (poll tax) and Kharaj (property tax).
http://adaniel.tripod.com/Islam.htm
Posted by lars008 at 04:57 PM : Oct 01, 2007

The United States 7th Calvary massacred helpless American Indians at Wounded Knee. Does that mean you don''t want to live under the US Government''s rule?

[johngress]

NONE OF US IS FREE UNLESS ALL ARE FREE!

None Of Us Are Free - Lynyrd Skynyrd

WHY IS IT NOT ONE MUSLIM COUNTRY GRANTS EQUAL RIGHTS TO NON MUSLIMS?

FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM SAYS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATES ISLAM LAW...

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
http://www.un.org/Overview/right
s.html

For example, in 1981, the Iranian representative to the United Nations, Said Rajaie-Khorassani, articulated the position of his country regarding the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by saying that the UDHR was "a secular understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition", which could not be implemented by Muslims without trespassing the Islamic law.

http://www.un.org/terrorism/

nnBut the accepted assumption in India is that most of India''''s Muslims were converted to Islam through the sword. Meaning the Indians were given an option between death or adopting Islam. The third option was getting examined in Islam religion along with heavy taxes- Jeziya (poll tax) and Kharaj (property tax).
http://adaniel.tripod.com/Islam.htm

nthis is what fascist nazi islam calls peace....

are you ready to live under islam rule as a non muslim???

apartheid fascist nazi islamic style

Rights of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id
3/islamic_state.htm


Posted by lars008 at 04:57 PM : Oct 01, 2007

Have you tried taking Zoloft, it works wonders for Xenophobia

[taotxzen]

Blackwater usually fired first in Iraq: lawmaker

Mon Oct 1, 2007 3:46pm EDT
By Sue Pleming

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. security contractor Blackwater has been involved in at least 195 shooting incidents in Iraq since 2005 and, in eight of 10 cases, their forces fired first, a leading U.S. lawmaker said on Monday.

State Department contractor Blackwater, under investigation for the shooting deaths of 11 Iraqis on September 16, will answer questions about that incident and its performance in Iraq at a Congressional hearing on Tuesday.

[searingtruth]

Oh my goodness.

The lawless FBI is going to investigate the lawless Blackwater.

Sheesh.
ST


"We became evil to fight evil, assuring its victory."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[cdfoxtrot]

What''s the point in sending the FBI to investigate? These Blackwater mercenaries are not subject to any law, US or Iraqi. Sending the FBI to "investigate" is a typical ploy by the moron-in-chief to buy time so that people move on to some other story. It''s a distraction. No more. No less.

[tburzio]

Be careful, many "reports" from the middle east turn out to be totally groundless (for you people from Rio Linda, another word for it is "lies").

[smirk5]

If Hillary becomes President, it''ll be fun watching all the Cons shriek about the dangers of Blackwater.

[ryanstockman]

Black water mercs are protected by the man.

[j-whitman]

tburzio,,, Please explain your post, I live near Rio Linda.

[j-whitman]

ST,,,, Here is an intresting article, it''s a long read, but gives you insight on the problems created by British & European Jews,working through US embassy''s waging terrorist warfare against Arab Jews & Muslems,,, Including biological, & pshcological warfare & bombing campaigns against the indigenous people in Palestine & the Middle East. European Jews killing indigenous Jews.

http://www.inminds.com/jews-of-iraq.html

[gkc99]

"Blackwater has earned more than $1 billion from federal contracts since 2001, when it had less than $1 million in government work. "


This is nothing more than a blatant payoff to Bushit supporters by the corrupt, no-bid Repugniscum admin. A billion dollars of our money going to some born-again Endtimers trying to precipitate Armageddon so they can kill and kill without prosecution.

And it''s run by Christians--ERik Prince is a Catholic--no Jewish conspiracy here, j-whitman!

[davegf]

u.s. = TERRORIST Nation # 1

[j-whitman]

badaxmofo,,,, Who''s demonizing them ?? They should be bound to the Rules of Engagement & they haven''t been... Our State Dept. has been hiding the truth on Blackwater.

[j-whitman]

badaxmofo,,,,, Blackwater''s founder was a major Bush contributer,,, Maybe we should have gone to war with a bigger military insead of private contractors, these problems would not have happened...
... Those who think it''s moral to profit off of 9/11 or wars sholdn''t be involved in wars..... It''s War Profiteering

[telltruth99]

*** ALL TROOPS OR ANYONE IN IRAQ ***

DEPLETED URANIUM ALERT! Wht The Media Doesn''t Want You To Know!

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/DU.htm

[telltruth99]

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[jimfinster]

So, after 9/11, business picked up a bit...like it did for just about every business in the security and/or military industries...
Posted by badaxmofo at 07:44 PM : Oct 01, 2007

Dude! That is a 1000% increase in 6 years!! Your "business picked up a bit" comment is the understatement of the year!!!!!!

[thelovegod]

This war has gone from dumb to disgusting to beyond the pale. I say the heck with Maliki, bust ''em up into provinces and let''em duke it out amongst themselves. May the best ********** win.

[missingamerica]

Hot stock tip: Companies that make document shredders, incinerators, and mulchers. Such companies expected to top out shortly before January of 2009, so be prepared to unload.