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AK-47s are being used by street criminals in Florida and the police are starting to carry the weapon as well to have an "even chance." Kelly Cobiella reports.
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His other weapon, an AR-15 - the civilian version of rifle carried by soldiers in Iraq.
“You have to up the ante a little bit; you don’t want to go to a gunfight with a knife,” Caldwell told CBS News correspondent Kelly Cobiella.
Especially when the gun on the other end of the fight is an AK-47, favored weapon of terrorists and, these days, the common criminal - used to rob grocery stores and donut shops. Last month, one was used to shoot four Miami-Dade police officers during a traffic stop, killing one.
The Broward sheriff’s office confiscated 25 of these weapons in a week’s time. Two are versions of the AK-47. They’re cheap, they’re easy to get and they’re powerful enough to pierce body armor.
Because of that, police are finding they have to upgrade their own arsenals. The guns usually seen in a SWAT officer's hand are now being given to beat officers in more than 20 departments around the country.
Miami's police chief is the latest to follow suit.
“I have an obligation to my police officers to make sure that they have an even chance,” said Miami police chief John Timoney.
Yet in many departments there isn't enough money to arm the entire force. Many beat cops have to buy their own rifle at a cost of more than $1,000, while assault rifles are being sold for as little as $200 on the street.
Twenty five-year-old Grady owns both an AK-47 and an Uzi.
It can fire 600 rounds at the flick of a finger. In his neighborhood, Grady says it's the only defense.
“I need something that, when I pull the trigger, is going to spray,” Grady said.
And it is set to automatic.
Caldwell knows a spray of bullets could be around the next corner. It's his assault rifle that gives him confidence he'll have a shot at survival.
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See all 55 CommentsAt least one of the two "versions of the AK-47" was an SKS. Completely different design than the AK. The only thing they have in common is caliber.
The UZI''s were a nice touch. Show UZI submachine guns being fired _full auto_. Now switch to the street thug with an UZI semi auto carbine that "can fire 600 rounds at the flick of a finger" and ask him if it''s "set to automatic."
Folks, "semi automatic" IS NOT "full automatic". There is a difference, and you know it. You chose to be deliberately misleading (you lied) by showing only clips of SMG''s firing full auto then cutting to the semi carbine.
And "600 rounds at the flick of a finger"? Yes, UZI machine guns have a _theoretical_ rate of fire of around 600 rounds _per minute_. This means that if you had a magazine that held 600 rounds, and you held the trigger back for one minute, you would fire all 600 some odd rounds barring any jams. Uzi mags hold 30 rounds (OK, some hold 50, but they''re junk and jam), so where does the "flick of a finger" garbage come from?
And as long as the idiot is "spraying" and not _aiming_, he''s mostly just making noise.
How many millions of dollars wasted on assault weapons and various attempts to define then ban them? How many man hours?
Here''s to hoping they don''t figure things out and go back to their roots. They might actually accomplish banning something.
U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter, Calif.
When we built that border fence with Mexico, the crime rate in the city of San Diego dropped by 50 percent.
Actually, there''s a more likely possiblity: the reporter knew it was a semi-auto, and didn''t care. This is an old, old tactic on the part of the news media: they talk about semi-automatic weapons, then show machineguns firing on screen. It''s dishonest, but it serves their agenda. They''ll be corrected on this countless times, and they''ll continue to make the same "mistake" over and over again. Certainly that''s the way it''s always worked in the past.
There is no such thing as cop killer bullets. Most LEO''s wear soft armor which protects primarily against handgun caliber rounds. Hard trauma plates protect from rifle caliber rounds. There is not a soft armor vest out there that will stop even common hunting rounds from compromising the vests commonly worn by LEO''s. Its another MSM made up factoid you people like to spout off.
The segment showing the young black man with the Uzi was equally inaccurate. The reporter asked "Is it on auto?" and he replied "Yes". That model is a semi-automatic, not full auto. Was the guy a paid actor? And if I''m wrong, if that weapon has somehow been modified to full auto capability, why did that reporter not immediately call BATFE and report this illegal weapon? You seem to be perfectly willing to deny legal gun owners access to legal weapons. Why aren''t you willing to help get the illegal guns off the streets and punish the criminals?
You have officially become... pathetic.
This was just too much.
they should not be used as replacement for bad marksmanship and poor training in a shootout on the street. I hope those police chiefs and cities realize what kind of liability they have taken upon themselves. Militarization of US police is also a very questionable decision in a democratic society. One incident in Florida, and every police department clamors to arm with machineguns. Next they will want to have automatic granade launches, tanks, armored helicopters, multiple rocket launch systems (to level the hostile neighborhoods - sure, it would make their jobs easier).
Did they ask him if it is legal for him to own firearms? - No, those pesky little things called "facts" just get in the way of a story
Did they ask him if he legally purchased said firearm? - No, again, facts get in the way of a juicy and "scary" story
Well in the intrest of fairness and balance, I would like to clear a few things up for anyone who watched this.
1) why are full auto weapons taped being shot, when the majority of weapons your piece targets are Semi-Auto?
2) AK-47''s do not really Sell for $200 apiece, they Sell for over $400.
3) The two "AK-47" rifles that were shown, were in reality SKS rifles, which have never been automatics.
4) An Uzi is not capable of firing 600 rounds per minute.
5) it is proven that most crimes are committed with handguns, why were there no statistics shown as to how many of these "evil guns" were actually involved in crimes?
6) The "Gang Members" in the last scene; if that weapon was full auto, which is doubtful, was he a licensed owner? did he go through the extensive process to actually posess a Class III firearm? if not, why was this not reported?
I expected more from your network and I''m sure the many millions of my fellow gun owners did too. I am dissapointed. I would hope that you take the time to read these comments, but sadly I think that you may not care what your viewers opinions are...please prove me wrong.
Guns are not the problem, criminals are the problem. Most criminals use and favor small concealable handguns. No criminals respect current or future legislation.
Thank you for juxtaposing a story about a guy with a semi-auto Uzi with footage from a full-auto firearm. Uzi mags are 20 to 30 rounds. Tell me please how to get 600 rounds with a flick of the finger.
Further, many police departments require thier officers to purchase their own weapons. Turns out that they don''t lose them as often. And, most policemen own other firearms. AR-15s are a popular recreational candidate. However, if they are strapped for cash, why don''t they just buy some of your $200 AK-47s?
After all, guns are tools. And apparently, so is the media.
(A) Full Automatic (Machine Guns) are not widely found on the Streets for $200. Owners must undergo a full FBI background check over several months & a sign off by authorities.
(B) SEMI automatic guns are NOT Machineguns. But your camera splices sure tried to confuse "Ma & Pa" watching on the TV about that. a SEMI auto firearm only fires ONCE for a pull of the trigger, not a "SPRAY" bullets as a MACHINE GUN would.
(C) The "Interview" with "Brady" the Gangsta thug who supposedly owns a Illegal Full Auto Uzi was BOGUS. You got played sucka! The gun he is holding is a SEMI auto copy that only shoots one bullet on the pull of the trigger. (Note it has a 16" barrel is required of the semiauto version built to the specs. & approved by the B.A.T.F.E. (Full Auto Uzis have only a 8" or 10" bbl without a Shroud) If "Brady" (sure he isn''t one of Jim & Sarahs kids?) is really holding an illegal machine gun, then your reporter has knowledge of a Federal Felony and since "Brady" is plastered on TV, I look forward to the followup story of his arrest for Felony Possession of a Machine Gun... Oops that won''t happen will it??
CBS News - You just never learn. "Operation Tailwind", then the Bush ANG scandal - (bye bye Dan!), now your trying & lieing to the public to push Gun Control of the "Evil Assault Weapons". CBS news, You just laid it on way too thick in trying your tricks.
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Perhaps when your audience dwindles down to those who can all fit in a football stadium, you will start asking what are you doing wrong. But I''ll bet you will then just blame the viewers for being ignorant. Good Bye.
A couple of years from I''ll be reading that Katie Couric is bringing suit against CBS for unjustified termination. Reading the WSJ probably, since after this piece I''m done with network "news".
Horrible.
Sounds to me like they just saved $25,000 for not having to purchase their own.
Obviously CBS news doesn''t think their readers have a brain.
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U.S. civilian AK''s are not machineguns like in the video, but are identical to a Ruger Mini Thirty deer rifle--same rate of fire, same range of magazine capacities, same effective range. ANY rifle will shoot through blocks or Kevlar, even great-grandpa''s 113-year-old Winchester .30-30. Possession of an actual military AK-47 is a 10-year Federal felony under current law.
The breakdown of confiscated guns mirrors FBI stats--overwhelmingly handguns, with only a small percentage of rifles and shotguns. According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, all rifles combined accounted for only 2.91% of murders in 2006, down from 2.97% in 2005--less than shotguns, knives, clubs, and even fists and feet.
Police departments have been issuing patrol rifles in lieu of shotguns since the 1990''s (my guess would be in the thousands of departments, not 20).
Please, get informed on the issue, and use the same journalistic skepticism for these guys that you''d use for an NRA spokesperson.
To the reporter--I shoot competitively and recreationally with my civilian AK, and it is also legal for deer hunting here in NC. If you''d be interested in shooting a civilian AK for yourself, offline, drop me an email. I think you''d come away with a very different impression than the spin you obtained from the crusaders you talked to.
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The AK-47 is actually a lower powered weapon than the firearms that the average police department have at there disposal. Full automatic No, these were Semi automatic, and no they cannot fire 600 rounds per minute. Armor piecing again No.
With reporting like this, it is not surprising you are going out of business, one can only hope you sleazy network folds up soon.
P.S.
Tell Rather-bias Get a Grip!
You folks prey on the uninformed in the hope a advancing your anti-gun philosophy.
The facts are that "assault rifles" are used in only a tiny fraction of crimes, are no more powerful than your average hunting rifle, and have the same mechanism of action as many hunting rifles (one trigger pull equals one shot). Full auto rifles are highly regulated, and are extremely difficult to buy legally.
2005 data:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_20.html
Total murders............................14,860.....100.00%
Handguns..................................7,543......50.76%
Other weapons (non firearm, non edged)....1,954......13.15%
Edged weapons.............................1,914......12.88%
Firearms (type unknown)...................1,598......10.75%
Shotguns....................................517.......3.48%
Hands, fists, feet, etc.....................892.......6.00%
Rifles......................................442.......2.97%
2006 data:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_20.html
Total murders............................14,990.....100.00%
Handguns..................................7,795......52.00%
Other weapons (non firearm, non edged)....2,158......14.40%
Edged weapons.............................1,822......12.15%
Firearms (type unknown)...................1,465.......9.77%
Shotguns....................................481.......3.21%
Hands, fists, feet, etc.....................833.......5.56%
Rifles......................................436.......2.91%
All rifles, semiautomatic "assault" rifles, and all other types combined are used in less than 3% of the reproted murders in the USA. So why is the sky falling again?
You folks prey on the uninformed in the hope a advancing your anti-gun philosophy.
The facts are that "assault rifles" are used in only a tiny fraction of crimes, are no more powerful than your average hunting rifle, and have the same mechanism of action as many hunting rifles (one trigger pull equals one shot). Full auto rifles are highly regulated, and are extremely difficult to buy legally.
If he is not a felon, then he was most likely not a gang memmber and a fake.
If he was not a gang member, but the Uzi was an unregistered full auto Uzi, then she probably committed a felony handling it (possessing) and then handing it back to him.
If it was not a full auto Uzi, then the interview was a fake.
Which is it? Will your reporter be investigated by the ATF, or was the story a total fake and staged?
Furthermore, no civilian firearm can fire "600 rounds at the flick of a finger." This is wrong on multiple levels. There is no ammunition feeding device of which I am aware for civilians that can hold 600 rounds of ammunition. An Uzi might have a 30 round magazine--HARDLY 600. In order to fire 600 rounds, one would have to be carrying TWENTY 30-round magazines and would have to change magazines NINETEEN TIMES--HARDLY "the flick of a finger."
Your erroneous reporting with respect to firearms and the Second Amendment are egregiously unprofessional and unethical. What happened to accurate journalism?
Why are you not running stories about the fact that firearms are used EIGHT TIMES more frequently by law-abiding citizens to prevent crime than by criminals to commit crime? Or that accidental firearms-related deaths are at an all time low in recorded U.S. history? Or that all the mass shootings at schools in recent history only take place in "gun free zones"? Or that Mr. Cho at Virginia Tech circumvented the "one gun per month" purchasing limit by waiting two months to get two handguns before he murdered 32 people? Or that no study has ever shown that gun control laws result in a decrease in violent crime rates?
Furthermore, no civilian firearm can fire "600 rounds at the flick of a finger." This is wrong on multiple levels. There is no ammunition feeding device of which I am aware for civilians that can hold 600 rounds of ammunition. An Uzi might have a 30 round magazine--HARDLY 600. In order to fire 600 rounds, one would have to be carrying TWENTY 30-round magazines and would have to change magazines NINETEEN TIMES--HARDLY "the flick of a finger."
Your erroneous reporting with respect to firearms and the Second Amendment are egregiously unprofessional and unethical. What happened to accurate journalism?
Why are you not running stories about the fact that firearms are used EIGHT TIMES more frequently by law-abiding citizens to prevent crime than by criminals to commit crime? Or that accidental firearms-related deaths are at an all time low in recorded U.S. history? Or that all the mass shootings at schools in recent history only take place in "gun free zones"? Or that Mr. Cho at Virginia Tech circumvented the "one gun per month" purchasing limit by waiting two months to get two handguns before he murdered 32 people? Or that no study has ever shown that gun control laws result in a decrease in violent crime rates?
Furthermore, no civilian firearm can fire "600 rounds at the flick of a finger." This is wrong on multiple levels. There is no ammunition feeding device of which I am aware for civilians that can hold 600 rounds of ammunition. An Uzi might have a 30 round magazine--HARDLY 600. In order to fire 600 rounds, one would have to be carrying TWENTY 30-round magazines and would have to change magazines NINETEEN TIMES--HARDLY "the flick of a finger."
Your erroneous reporting with respect to firearms and the Second Amendment are egregiously unprofessional and unethical. What happened to accurate journalism?
Why are you not running stories about the fact that firearms are used EIGHT TIMES more frequently by law-abiding citizens to prevent crime than by criminals to commit crime? Or that accidental firearms-related deaths are at an all time low in recorded U.S. history? Or that all the mass shootings at schools in recent history only take place in "gun free zones"? Or that Mr. Cho at Virginia Tech circumvented the "one gun per month" purchasing limit by waiting two months to get two handguns before he murdered 32 people? Or that no study has ever shown that gun control laws result in a decrease in violent crime rates?
Furthermore, no civilian firearm can fire "600 rounds at the flick of a finger." This is wrong on multiple levels. There is no ammunition feeding device of which I am aware for civilians that can hold 600 rounds of ammunition. An Uzi might have a 30 round magazine--HARDLY 600. In order to fire 600 rounds, one would have to be carrying TWENTY 30-round magazines and would have to change magazines NINETEEN TIMES--HARDLY "the flick of a finger."
Your erroneous reporting with respect to firearms and the Second Amendment are egregiously unprofessional and unethical. What happened to accurate journalism?
Why are you not running stories about the fact that firearms are used EIGHT TIMES more frequently by law-abiding citizens to prevent crime than by criminals to commit crime? Or that accidental firearms-related deaths are at an all time low in recorded U.S. history? Or that all the mass shootings at schools in recent history only take place in "gun free zones"? Or that Mr. Cho at Virginia Tech circumvented the "one gun per month" purchasing limit by waiting two months to get two handguns before he murdered 32 people? Or that no study has ever shown that gun control laws result in a decrease in violent crime rates?
Furthermore, no civilian firearm can fire "600 rounds at the flick of a finger." This is wrong on multiple levels. There is no ammunition feeding device of which I am aware for civilians that can hold 600 rounds of ammunition. An Uzi might have a 30 round magazine--HARDLY 600. In order to fire 600 rounds, one would have to be carrying TWENTY 30-round magazines and would have to change magazines NINETEEN TIMES--HARDLY "the flick of a finger."
Your erroneous reporting with respect to firearms and the Second Amendment are egregiously unprofessional and unethical. What happened to accurate journalism?
Why are you not running stories about the fact that firearms are used EIGHT TIMES more frequently by law-abiding citizens to prevent crime than by criminals to commit crime? Or that accidental firearms-related deaths are at an all time low in recorded U.S. history? Or that all the mass shootings at schools in recent history only take place in "gun free zones"? Or that Mr. Cho at Virginia Tech circumvented the "one gun per month" purchasing limit by waiting two months to get two handguns before he murdered 32 people? Or that no study has ever shown that gun control laws result in a decrease in violent crime rates?
Furthermore, no civilian firearm can fire "600 rounds at the flick of a finger." This is wrong on multiple levels. There is no ammunition feeding device of which I am aware for civilians that can hold 600 rounds of ammunition. An Uzi might have a 30 round magazine--HARDLY 600. In order to fire 600 rounds, one would have to be carrying TWENTY 30-round magazines and would have to change magazines NINETEEN TIMES--HARDLY "the flick of a finger."
Your erroneous reporting with respect to firearms and the Second Amendment are egregiously unprofessional and unethical. What happened to accurate journalism?
Why are you not running stories about the fact that firearms are used EIGHT TIMES more frequently by law-abiding citizens to prevent crime than by criminals to commit crime? Or that accidental firearms-related deaths are at an all time low in recorded U.S. history? Or that all the mass shootings at schools in recent history only take place in "gun free zones"? Or that Mr. Cho at Virginia Tech circumvented the "one gun per month" purchasing limit by waiting two months to get two handguns before he murdered 32 people? Or that no study has ever shown that gun control laws result in a decrease in violent crime rates?
Furthermore, no civilian firearm can fire "600 rounds at the flick of a finger." This is wrong on multiple levels. There is no ammunition feeding device of which I am aware for civilians that can hold 600 rounds of ammunition. An Uzi might have a 30 round magazine--HARDLY 600. In order to fire 600 rounds, one would have to be carrying TWENTY 30-round magazines and would have to change magazines NINETEEN TIMES--HARDLY "the flick of a finger."
Your erroneous reporting with respect to firearms and the Second Amendment are egregiously unprofessional and unethical. What happened to accurate journalism?
Why are you not running stories about the fact that firearms are used EIGHT TIMES more frequently by law-abiding citizens to prevent crime than by criminals to commit crime? Or that accidental firearms-related deaths are at an all time low in recorded U.S. history? Or that all the mass shootings at schools in recent history only take place in "gun free zones"? Or that Mr. Cho at Virginia Tech circumvented the "one gun per month" purchasing limit by waiting two months to get two handguns before he murdered 32 people? Or that no study has ever shown that gun control laws result in a decrease in violent crime rates?
1. There is nothing extra powerful about the 7.62x39 round that AKs shoot. It is virtually identical to the .30-30 Winchester round commonly used in deer hunting. Virtually ANY rifle round will penetrate police body armor, which is only designed to stop handgun rounds.
2. Two of the rifles identified as AK variants were SKS rifles, which were used by the Russian army in WWII. They use a completely different design and no version of the SKS has ever been capable of full-auto operation.
3. The AK rifles available for civilian purchase in the U.S. are semi-automatic only. They are not machine guns. Inexpensive AK variants start around $400 and high-quality examples can cost closer to $800. The majority of the people who own them are law abiding people who use them for home defense, target shooting and even hunting (with a 5-round magazine).
4. The Uzi that idiot gangbanger was holding is not capable of "spraying" anything. It is a semi-automatic weapon.
5. There is no epidemic of gun violence. The FBI Murder by Weapon Type statistics show that rifles are only used in less than 3% of murders. More people are beaten to death with bare hands than are killed with rifles. More than twice as many people are stabbed to death than are killed with rifles and shotguns combined. Furthermore, the percentage of rifle murders actually went DOWN from 2005 to 2006.
Are you people for real?
Now you attack the Bill of Rights, in all cases your reports (I use the term loosely) are poorly thought out fabrications.
Just for teh record, the SKS rifle has never been manufactured in full automatic form. The AK-47 sold in the United States are not cheap, all sold are semi automatic, and would be impossible for anyone to have fired 600 rounds in one minute. Uzi sold here are also Semi Automatic, again 600 rounds, impossable.
Enough of your fabrications, I will look forward to the day CBS goes dark and we never hear another lie broadcast from this horrible excuse of a network. Perhaps the people you feel are so stupid, should petition the FCC to revoke the Broadcast licenses of every station nationwide that is one of you affiliates.
Personally will support the boycott of you local affiliate and the sponsors where I live. It would be a wonderful day when CBS is a just bad memory.
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