Democrat Takes Beating For Pro-War Stance

Politico: Rep. Brian Baird Embraced Bush's Strategy Last Month

(The Politico)  This story was written by Josephine Hearn.

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It’s rather lonely being Rep. Brian Baird these days. Your erstwhile allies are trashing you. Your enemies are rejoicing. Your friends can offer little more than gallows humor.

A month after Baird, a Democrat from Washington state, switched his views on Iraq and embraced President Bush’s surge strategy, he remains persona non grata in many circles.

At home, he is besieged by angry protesters and hostile ads.

In the Capitol, many of his colleagues are still smarting over his turnaround, charging that it gave fodder to Republicans and undermined the Democrats’ momentum to force a troop withdrawal.

“He clearly has been exploited by the administration to advance their position. I think that was very unfortunate and, frankly, misguided,” said Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.).

Taking an unpopular stand in politics is rarely simple, and it’s even less so when you oppose your own party’s leadership on the most divisive issue of the day.


Over the past month, Baird has had to endure a fierce reaction to his change of heart, from the chaos of a rancorous town hall meeting to the seething disapproval of Democratic leaders to the raised eyebrows of his Democratic peers.

But he remains unapologetic.

“I had seen firsthand significant changes on the ground in the region,” he said in an interview, “and I felt a responsibility to state that, because it seemed like that was a perspective that was not being voiced.”

But his colleagues in Congress are less convinced.

“I was just curious to know what he saw in Iraq that wasn’t a dog and pony show,” mused Rep. Lynn Woolsey, a California Democrat.

“I just can’t see how a thinking representative can buy this president’s smoke and mirrors,” said Rep. Maxine Waters, another California Democrat.

Baird wrote in a Seattle Times op-ed Aug. 24 that even though “the invasion of Iraq may be one of the worst foreign policy mistakes in the history of our nation, ... a precipitous or premature withdrawal of our forces now has the potential to turn the initial errors into an even greater problem just as success looks possible.”

Prior to that, Baird had been against the administration’s Iraq policy.

He opposed the initial invasion in 2002 and has voted with Democratic leadership on most Iraq-related issues this year.

Baird’s announcement came just as Democratic leaders and their allies were in the midst of a multipronged grass-roots effort to pressure moderate Republicans to join them.

Instead, one of the only members to switch sides was Baird - and Republicans seized on his comments to show dissension within Democratic ranks.

Earlier, Democrats had spoken of August and September as potential turning points in the Iraq debate, but few Republicans ultimately changed their positions. Now, Democrats are struggling to make their next move.

Baird said legislative tactics were the furthest thing from his mind.

“There were a few who felt I undermined the message, but I could really care less,” he said Tuesday. “Some were mad at me that I was going off message. In fact, even some of the people who had been pro-war said that to me. ... They were so quickly jumping to criticism of someone with a different position. It’s unfortunate that we’re being driven by such an extreme wing right now.”

Baird’s anti-war colleagues made little effort to hide their annoyance with him. Several said they approved of the ads and protests an anti-war group had launched against him. Others lobbed the ultimate insult: He didn’t matter.

“I don’t think he takes people with him. I don’t think he has that much influence to take people with him,” said Rep. Diane E. Watson, a California Democrat.

Baird argued that the anti-war faction of his party allowed no room for alternate appraches.

“They are driving the agenda far too much, and it’s the wrong direction for this country,” he said. “We all agree that we can’t stay forever there, but how we withdraw and when we withdraw and why we withdraw matters a great deal to our own security, the legacy we leave in Iraq and our public image internationally.”

Baird is not the first Democrat to return from Iraq with a new viewpoint. Two years ago, Pennsylvania Rep. John P. Murtha came back and reversed his earlier support for the war.

Murtha received a hero’s welcome from Democratic leaders. He got a standing ovation at the caucus meeting.

He was allowed to speak for more than 20 minutes in a momentous speech on the House floor, a place where lawmakers are often limited to only one minute.

Baird’s reception was chilly. Few lawmakers have spoken to him about his change, he said. Some approached him with pointed fingers and barked, “We need to talk about this!” but never followed up.

His Washington state colleagues have offered dark humor as consolation as Baird faces a barrage of hostility from anti-war groups and lawmakers.

“I thanked Brian this morning,” Rep. Jay Inslee (D-Wash.) quipped to Rep. Rick Larsen (D-Wash.) last week. “‘You’re making us look pretty good!’”

Baird appreciated the levity. “Even if people don’t agree with me, they at least appreciate how tough it is.”

[bizzzz-2009]

The democrats would sell their soul for pork money. They already have. John Murtha is a fat@ss, double talking idiot. When he''s not slandering soldiers in battle who are later acquitted, he''s lying to his anti war constituency, while war profitting at the same time.
What a guy. What a leader. What a piece of $hit.

[hillaryin08]

The Liberals Bail on their Base.......

(CBS/AP) The leading Democratic White House hopefuls conceded Wednesday night they cannot guarantee to pull all U.S. combat troops from Iraq by the end of the next presidential term in 2013.

"I think it''s hard to project four years from now," said Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois in the opening moments of a campaign debate in the nation''s first primary state.

"It is very difficult to know what we''re going to be inheriting," added Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

"I cannot make that commitment," said former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina.

[toldyouso21]

Congress has no sense. There are no checks and balances. One party is too corrupt and fascist to be in office--the other too weak. We should all vote 3rd party--so that both realize finally, that they ARE expendable and that they ignore the People at their own peril.


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[prinzowhales]

"Not the Jews. The Jews'''' ancestors never exterminated anyone. They have never committed genocide."

Has anyone ever consulted with the Mormon geneology people in search of Amalekite ancestors? I don''t think so. This may well be the first recorded genocide in history...allegedly, God told the Jews to to this...rather like the talking dog who instructed the famous serial killer, Son of Sam, David Berkowitz and George Bush who said that God told to strike Afghanistan and Iraq.

[iceman_1960]

Rush Limbaugh touts his close connections to Republicans, claiming that he "got a big hug" from President George W. Bush during a 2004 White House visit.

No doubt he did.

[iceman_1960]

No mention of Joe Lieberman in this report.

That''s odd.

[iceman_1960]

RE: "How many times have Bush and Cheney appeared as honored guests on the Rush Limbaugh show ? Would you like to read some Limbaugh quotes ? Just ask. I''ll be happy to provide them."

Wow, dante805, I thought you''d never ask.

Here''s the pal of Bush and Cheney, their friend and host:

"I mean, why didn''t these morons leave New Orleans before the hurricane? I''ll tell you why: because they wanted to rape and loot! That''s just the way "some people" are! And if they''re black -- if the rapists and looters are black -- it''s not George Bush''s fault! We''ve had these problems ever since the Emancipation Proclamation. Once the whites leave town, all you''ve got is overwhelming lawlessness. That''s not racism, Mr. Snerdley; it''s a proven, demonstrable fact. Have you even seen a ghetto in Greenwich, Connecticut? I rest my case."

- Rush Limbaugh, 12 September 2005

Source:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh

[iceman_1960]

"Just goes to show you how turn-coat the DEMs are. If you let moveon and dailykos run your party you deserve the rap."
- Posted by dante805 at 08:02 AM : Sep 27, 2007

What hypocrisy.

How many times have Bush and Cheney appeared as honored guests on the Rush Limbaugh show ?

Would you like to read some Limbaugh quotes ? Just ask. I''ll be happy to provide them.

[dante805]

Just goes to show you how turn-coat the DEMs are. If you let moveon and dailykos run your party you deserve the rap. I predict the DEM party will fracture before the 08 elections and actually lose House and Senate seats. These hate groups are now infecting all moderate dems and independents. Look out Blue Dogs...ABC- ANYONE but Clinton, but NOT Obama.

[iceman_1960]

RE: "Those bloody tales in the Book of Joshua and elsewhere, were pure fiction. The ancestors of Jerry Seinfeld and Natalie Portman never did such things."

Not surprising at all.

"Natalie Portman has advocated for environmental causes from a young age, becoming a member of the environmental song and dance troupe at age twelve. She is a self-proclaimed "animal lover," and has been a vegetarian since she was eight years old. Portman has spent some of her free time involved in causes such as the Democrats'' 2004 U.S. presidential campaign and ending poverty. In 2004 and 2005 she traveled to Uganda, Guatemala, and Ecuador as the Ambassador of Hope for FINCA International, an organization that promotes micro-lending to help finance women-owned businesses in poor countries."

"On November 18, 2004, Seinfeld appeared at the Smithsonian Museum where the "Puffy Shirt" he wore in the famous Seinfeld episode, The Puffy Shirt, was being donated. He also gave a speech when presenting the "Puffy Shirt", claiming humorously that "This is the most embarrassing moment of my life."... On an episode of The Daily Show, host Jon Stewart remarked on the fact that Jerry Seinfeld did not change his name for the purpose of show business but then went on to ask what he would call himself if he did change it. Jerry then jokingly said, "Well, I would keep my last name, so as not to offend my parents and I would have to go with Jesus."

Source: Wikipedia

[hwy71so]

"This would make all the current Repugs in congress SHEEP - by your analogy. Cheers!

Posted by parrots7 at 02:27 PM : Sep 26, 2007"

I would rather that all members of congress; Senators and Reps alike, represent the PEOPLE and not the party. Seems to be the DIMocrats credo to follow party over good sense or popular opinion. They''re the party most likely to get a unanimous. The republicans tend to disagree with each other as needs dictate. This is a good thing; it builds strength and affects change. The DIMcrats are pretty much proven party biased. Not a good thing. They go along with the party even when in the wrong. Baird is stepping off the bandwagon and do his job.

[iceman_1960]

"The Semites are LOVERS of vengeance and violence. They have been ethnically cleansing and slaughtering each other for over 3 thousand years."
- Posted by Agnim at 03:05 PM : Sep 26, 2007

Some Semites were. The Assyrians, for instance.

Not the Jews. The Jews'' ancestors never exterminated anyone. They have never committed genocide.

Those bloody tales in the Book of Joshua and elsewhere, were pure fiction.

The ancestors of Jerry Seinfeld and Natalie Portman never did such things. They were peaceful industrious people.

Source:

"The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology''s New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts"
published in May, 2002 by Israeli archaeologist Israel Finkelstein of Tel Aviv University, and archaeologist Asher Silberman.

[Krazcarl]

likeitis5050... Great to hear rational opininion it''s getting very scarce here used to be news blog now it''s a hate blog ot further MY ageneda. Man has backbone doesen''t want to crawl under a rock and hide and I''m sure he thought this out in the current atmosphere. Most of these folks are just showing how stupid they are that''s why were at war in the first place.

[socrates392]

Posted by my2centss at 08:39 PM : Sep 26, 2007

I agree. Don''t waste your time talking *** about him. He''ll pay with his job in the next election.

[my2centss]

Parties are groups with similar ideas and beliefs. Why are the Dems so mad because someone does not believe like them on every issue? Good for him for standing up for his beliefs.

[reporter14]

A Picture is worth a thousand Words

www.poconocommunitynews.com

[toldyouso21]

I mean, for a perfect example; who has actually documented one lie that Bush is supposed to have told?Posted by pwrslm at 12:02 PM : Sep 26, 2007


The media
Surely you jest? How about the lie in 2004 where Bush said he absolutely was NOT wiretapping without a warrant? how about him speaking about yellowcake at least 2 weeks AFTER the CIA told him the source was bogus? What about him saying no one discussed the levies and then the video showing him at the Katrian meeting looking like a deer in headlights while the levees were discussed? Or how about him saying that Bin Laden would be captured in 2001, saying He did not think much about Bin Laden in 2004, Vowing that Bin Laden was of the utmost priority in 9/2006 and 2 weeks later stating again that honestly Bin Laden was NOT a priority of the war on terror. Or maybe Bush saying his Administration had never said they wanted to "stay the course" and then the examples for the past 3 years of him and others saying that over and over again. Then there was his promise to fire all CIA leakers, That Saddam was linked to 9/11, that the US was not involved in renditions, you really would have done better to have us quote when he did not lie. That would take up less space.

really--what exactly is YOUR definition of a lie? Because Bush has told sooo many , that the standing joke about him is that any time his lips are moving--it is a lie.

[agnim]

"Agnim:

What is your point? And above all, what do you think that should be done to fix the problem?
Posted by nikosk1 at 02:10 PM : Sep 26, 2007"

The "point" is to wake the town and shake Americans out of their slumber and the Middle East morass!

The Semites are LOVERS of vengeance and violence. They have been ethnically cleansing and slaughtering each other for over 3 thousand years.

Americans should not want to be a part of the Semites love and thirst for endless, generations-old bloodletting in the Middle East.
It is doing us and the world no good!

[likeitis5050]

That''s typical for politics today. How dare a politician make an informed decision based on personal experience rather than what is spoon fed! The same applies to the Republican who does his own footwork and comes away understanding the healthcare issue or global warming issue based on his own observations. No one in politics is supposed to gravitate to the center, where most Americans want issues to be addressed, as is illustrated in this report. He did what every single politician should be doing and got off his a...ss and checked out something for himself and discovered the media wasn''t being unbiased and his information had been diluted. Good for him and shame on all those who aren''t doing the same thing, whether it''s looking into the illegal immigration problem, healthcare crisis, high cost of energy, or any of the other 5 or 6 hot button issues on the platform now. As voters we ought to be holding all the other representatives in office to the same standard...get off your a...ss and go look for yourself!!! I hope he knows there is an entirely different group of people who don''t subscribe blindly to one party or the other who are very pleased with his decision, even if it isn''t something we support. The fact that he exercised his right based on what HE observed, and not on what he was TOLD, speaks volumes to the character and integrity of this man.

[agnim]

CRUCIFIXION! American version

BARABBAS -- Mass murdering US President with his HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DEAD BODIES IN IRAQ!

JESUS -- Talkative Iran Preeacher with his hundreds of MERE WORDS!

And the violence-loving Jews AGAIN yelled, "Crucify him!"
"Crucify him!"

"Crucify amadenijad, the WORDSMITH!"

"And give us bush, the MASS MURDERER!"

Some things never seem to change with the Jews. LOL

Message?
Americans, save yourselves from the wicked & wanton slaughter!
Extricate yourselves from the Middle East madness of endless vengeance and violence, which has been going on among Middle East war lovers for thousands of years now!