Democrat Takes Beating For Pro-War Stance

Politico: Rep. Brian Baird Embraced Bush's Strategy Last Month

(The Politico)  This story was written by Josephine Hearn.

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It’s rather lonely being Rep. Brian Baird these days. Your erstwhile allies are trashing you. Your enemies are rejoicing. Your friends can offer little more than gallows humor.

A month after Baird, a Democrat from Washington state, switched his views on Iraq and embraced President Bush’s surge strategy, he remains persona non grata in many circles.

At home, he is besieged by angry protesters and hostile ads.

In the Capitol, many of his colleagues are still smarting over his turnaround, charging that it gave fodder to Republicans and undermined the Democrats’ momentum to force a troop withdrawal.

“He clearly has been exploited by the administration to advance their position. I think that was very unfortunate and, frankly, misguided,” said Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.).

Taking an unpopular stand in politics is rarely simple, and it’s even less so when you oppose your own party’s leadership on the most divisive issue of the day.


Over the past month, Baird has had to endure a fierce reaction to his change of heart, from the chaos of a rancorous town hall meeting to the seething disapproval of Democratic leaders to the raised eyebrows of his Democratic peers.

But he remains unapologetic.

“I had seen firsthand significant changes on the ground in the region,” he said in an interview, “and I felt a responsibility to state that, because it seemed like that was a perspective that was not being voiced.”

But his colleagues in Congress are less convinced.

“I was just curious to know what he saw in Iraq that wasn’t a dog and pony show,” mused Rep. Lynn Woolsey, a California Democrat.

“I just can’t see how a thinking representative can buy this president’s smoke and mirrors,” said Rep. Maxine Waters, another California Democrat.

Baird wrote in a Seattle Times op-ed Aug. 24 that even though “the invasion of Iraq may be one of the worst foreign policy mistakes in the history of our nation, ... a precipitous or premature withdrawal of our forces now has the potential to turn the initial errors into an even greater problem just as success looks possible.”

Prior to that, Baird had been against the administration’s Iraq policy.

He opposed the initial invasion in 2002 and has voted with Democratic leadership on most Iraq-related issues this year.

Baird’s announcement came just as Democratic leaders and their allies were in the midst of a multipronged grass-roots effort to pressure moderate Republicans to join them.

Instead, one of the only members to switch sides was Baird - and Republicans seized on his comments to show dissension within Democratic ranks.

Earlier, Democrats had spoken of August and September as potential turning points in the Iraq debate, but few Republicans ultimately changed their positions. Now, Democrats are struggling to make their next move.

Baird said legislative tactics were the furthest thing from his mind.

“There were a few who felt I undermined the message, but I could really care less,” he said Tuesday. “Some were mad at me that I was going off message. In fact, even some of the people who had been pro-war said that to me. ... They were so quickly jumping to criticism of someone with a different position. It’s unfortunate that we’re being driven by such an extreme wing right now.”

Baird’s anti-war colleagues made little effort to hide their annoyance with him. Several said they approved of the ads and protests an anti-war group had launched against him. Others lobbed the ultimate insult: He didn’t matter.

“I don’t think he takes people with him. I don’t think he has that much influence to take people with him,” said Rep. Diane E. Watson, a California Democrat.

Baird argued that the anti-war faction of his party allowed no room for alternate appraches.

“They are driving the agenda far too much, and it’s the wrong direction for this country,” he said. “We all agree that we can’t stay forever there, but how we withdraw and when we withdraw and why we withdraw matters a great deal to our own security, the legacy we leave in Iraq and our public image internationally.”

Baird is not the first Democrat to return from Iraq with a new viewpoint. Two years ago, Pennsylvania Rep. John P. Murtha came back and reversed his earlier support for the war.

Murtha received a hero’s welcome from Democratic leaders. He got a standing ovation at the caucus meeting.

He was allowed to speak for more than 20 minutes in a momentous speech on the House floor, a place where lawmakers are often limited to only one minute.

Baird’s reception was chilly. Few lawmakers have spoken to him about his change, he said. Some approached him with pointed fingers and barked, “We need to talk about this!” but never followed up.

His Washington state colleagues have offered dark humor as consolation as Baird faces a barrage of hostility from anti-war groups and lawmakers.

“I thanked Brian this morning,” Rep. Jay Inslee (D-Wash.) quipped to Rep. Rick Larsen (D-Wash.) last week. “‘You’re making us look pretty good!’”

Baird appreciated the levity. “Even if people don’t agree with me, they at least appreciate how tough it is.”

[antoniof123]

Rep. Brian Baird start looking for a new job the Democrats will replace you and the Republicans will try to take your seat. This is how American needs to treat those that don''t listen to the voters replace them get them out of politics.

Ladies and Gentlemen they are slaves not rulers. They do not decide for us they do as they are told and when they don''t we replace them remove them in shame. They chose to represent us if they don''t them like a good master we need to do away with them.

If we the American people start treating our elected officials that way then I bet they will start to do as they are told.

But most of you just vote party line just like the Muslims who vote by religious sect.

[afmca]

Let''s not become like the Repubs. The Democrats need to be intelligent and inclusive enough to allow for different thoughts. The trouble in DC today is that members of both parties think their first allegiance is to party instead of country. A person with a different stance does not need to be demonized.

The Repubs have led this country into the slime pit with their lemming like allegiance to Bush, Big Oil, and pseudo-christianity. Democrates must pledge their allegiance in the following manner:
1. Uphold Constitution
2. Good of Country
3. Good of World
4. Good of home State
5. Personal Beliefs
6. Party
Follow this and most of our issues go away.

[forthepeopl1]

To bomb or not to bomb Iran, that''s the question the Bush Administration appears to be debating these days, once again revealing the extraordinary disconnect between the White House and the American people. With a catastrophic occupation of Iraq and polls showing the American public so skeptical about the use of military force that only eight percent support military action against Iran, there is nevertheless a clear and present danger that Cheney and the neocons will again prevail and lead this Administration into another disastrous military misadventure.

[skyk-2009]

Ladies and Gentlemen they are slaves not rulers. They do not decide for us they do as they are told and when they don''''t we replace them remove them in shame. They chose to represent us if they don''''t them like a good master we need to do away with them.

If we the American people start treating our elected officials that way then I bet they will start to do as they are told.

But most of you just vote party line just like the Muslims who vote by religious sect.

Posted by antoniof123 at 11:06 AM : Sep 26, 2007
+ report abuse

You are absolutely right. Leave it to Southern Fascist to do what they wish and to ignore the very soul and meaning of our Constitution. This is NOT a debate about your personal views AFTER you are elected. This is about a REPRESENTATIVE Democracy which is what we have had since we decided to ELECT our REPRESENTATIVES. Now the defination of that word, REPRESENTATIVE, has NOT changed since day one. IF you don''t represent me, if you go against what I want you to do then I will vote against you. That''s not hard for people to understand. We the people were Clearly Lied to and I know how I''d feel if I lived in Iraq and every day I''m confronted by a Military that has killed Thousands and Thousands trying to "Give" me their way of doing things.

[skyk-2009]

The Repubs have led this country into the slime pit with their lemming like allegiance to Bush, Big Oil, and pseudo-christianity. Democrates must pledge their allegiance in the following manner:
1. Uphold Constitution
2. Good of Country
3. Good of World
4. Good of home State
5. Personal Beliefs
6. Party
Follow this and most of our issues go away.

Posted by afmca at 11:31 AM : Sep 26, 2007
+ report abuse

I just do not believe these people who still follow Bush have any concern with anything but their Party. They are still, after all we''ve seen, more interested in making sure I sleep with the right person than they are with Bin Laden. We have a very tired Military AND we are again confronted by the Organization that Attacked us at FULL Strength. All those Young Arabs didn''t just jump up and say "I want to die" without reason. Their reason? Bush''s War!! Anyone who can''t see the failure in that policy isn''t looking.

[prinzowhales]

Most amusing, a Democrat jumping on a sinking ship believing that the Betrayus surge is working...or, could we have something more sinister at work here?
...like blackmai.

It has been reported that Bush is advising the Clinton campaign on how NOT to talk themselves into a corner on the Iraqi war so they will have too much to explain when they continue to ''stay the course'' in Iraq. Petraus isn''t the only rat who is betraying us.

[pwrslm]

Posted by skyk

Doesnt it seem like, somewhere along the line, people would stop endorsing hype and suppositin and demand facts? I mean, for a perfect example; who has actually documented one lie that Bush is supposed to have told?

Where are these little tid bits that take Bushophobia from a mental disease to reality?

Got the beef? Where? it sure isnt in the News services!!

[hwy71so]

Senators and Representatives do NOT represent the party, they represent the PEOPLE to the party. Once these "Our Gang" numbskulls figure this out, maybe this country will get straightened out.

Way to go Mr. Baird. ;)

[jack3213]

Now if it takes a trip to Iraq to change a viewpoint perhaps others will have the courage to follow this line of advice and start to think for themselves. If upon return someone is to change their mind about how they see the War on Terror, why is it so critical that others look down on them without experiancing the trip themselves? It is cowardly to make an assessment without first hand knowledge. Just imagine if more Democrats changed their viewpoint and Clinton and Obama were left out in cold? What a glorious day that would be.

[lochlan-2009]

See ya later, sell out, and I''m not talking about your party. Hope for your sake the GOP gave you quite a payoff. You can go have a seat next to Lieberman, the Israeli senator.

[dodaz-2009]

Sounds like He had a "Hooker" ...er..i mean..."Skelaton" in his closet;;.. and some nice boys in D.C. were gettin ready to release the hounds on his A$$.....He''s done either way... becuase of his "filth" or his stance... i guess it''s better to get voted out of office than " booted" because they got dirt on you...lol...

[dodaz-2009]

Sounds like He had a "Hooker" ...er..i mean..."Skeleton" in his closet;;.. and some nice boys in D.C. were gettin ready to release the hounds on his A$$.....He''''s done either way... becuase of his "filth" or his stance... i guess it''''s better to get voted out of office than " booted" because they got dirt on you...lol...

[signof4]

Well, at least there''s ONE democrat who isn''t in MoveOver.org''s back pocket.

[hwy71so]

Sounds like he manned up and became an individual instead a sheep.

[getloud1]

Ron Paul has it all.

**** TAKE AMERICA BACK ****
**** STOP THE WAR & Corporate Corruption****

He has NEVER voted:
* to raise taxes
* for an unbalanced budget
* to raise congressional pay
* for a federal restriction on gun ownership
* to increase the power of the executive branch

He HAS voted:
* against the Iraq war
* against the inappropriately named USA PATRIOT act
* against regulating the internet
* against the Military Commissions Act

He will eliminate the IRS, Wasteful Government Spending & Stop The Iraq War Immediately!

Most importantly, he voted NO on anything in Congress that is not allowed by the Constitution.

He is the only candidate not a member of the CFR!

Shouldn''''t ALL members of Congress uphold the Constitution? Aren''''t they SWORN to uphold it? You can bet Paul won''''t call the Constitution "just a G**D***ed piece of paper" like George Bush is reported to have.

If you want a candidate you can TRUST due to a proven track record, visit ronpaul2008.com and get busy spreading the word. The Mainstream Media is a lagging indicator!!

Join The ReVoLuTiOn In Your City Stand Up America:
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/cities/

Also checkout http://video.google.com search for Federal Reserve Fraud

[hwy71so]

"Democrates must pledge their allegiance in the following manner:

1. Uphold Constitution Nope
2. Good of Country Nope
3. Good of World Nope
4. Good of home State Nope
5. Personal Beliefs Okay, I''ll give you this one
6. Party This one too.

Follow this and most of our issues go away.

Posted by afmca at 11:31 AM : Sep 26, 2007"

Well, for the most part, they''ve (democrats) failed miserably in your list of responsibilities. No wonder Baird bailed...

[cbs_oliver]

It''s hard to say what makes people go bad.

He needs to be voted out and replaced.

[one_american]

Brian Baird shows the intellectual courage that so many of the Democrats surely lack. He may be of the Democrat Party, but his principals are Republican.

Stick by your principals, Mr. Baird - to hell with the moonbats - their days are numbered.

The Democrats and the MoveOn.org slimeballs remind me of the regime in Iran, who work overtime trying to suppress the truth about the war, as well as most other issues in the world.

[micma-2009]

Iraq has been nothing but a string of failures and disasters from the start. You Bu$h apologists can spin until your dizzy but it doesn''t change the reality that this is the worst foreign policy disaster in U.S. history.

[prinzowhales]

One-American--Which ''truth'' has the Iranian government tried to suppress about the war? And, just how could that have a hope of working in an America where the media is Zionist owned and Israel first and America last?

[tucano2]

No American President, Democrat or Republican. is going to "end" the war in Iraq this year, 2008, 2009, or whenever. The incoming President will "discover new facts" unknown during the run-up to the 11/08 elections that will dictate the old "Hitler strategy" of holding on to each square meter of ground in the mistaken belief that will do anything positive. A former head of the USSR stated America would be forced to spend itself to death. That forecast is proving to be true,
as we are "stuck to the tar-baby" and crank up the currency''s printing presses.

[one_american]

"One-American--Which ''truth'' has the Iranian government tried to suppress about the war?"

Posted by Prinzowhales at 01:20 PM : Sep 26, 2007


The proven truth that Iranian Quds forces, and a wide range of deadly weapons are being sent into Iraq to kill American soldiers.

You would already know that if it weren''t for the fact that you are so lacking in your education, and you inablility to process information contrary to your belief system.

[agnim]

CRUCIFIXION! American version

BARABBAS -- Mass murdering US President with his HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DEAD BODIES IN IRAQ!

JESUS -- Talkative Iran Preeacher with his hundreds of MERE WORDS!

And the violence-loving Jews AGAIN yelled, "Crucify him!"
"Crucify him!"

"Crucify amadenijad, the WORDSMITH!"

"And give us bush, the MASS MURDERER!"

Some things never seem to change with the Jews. LOL

Message?
Americans, save yourselves from the wicked & wanton slaughter!
Extricate yourselves from the Middle East madness of endless vengeance and violence, which has been going on among Middle East war lovers for thousands of years now!

[glossypan]

Brian Baird represents Washington''s 3rd district, due north of Portland Oregon. Baird''s constituency is primarily people who want the good jobs of Portland but prefer the monolithic Washington suburb of Vancouver to live. While Portland is notably unchristian, Vancouver WA is very Christian. Many are fundamentalist "Christian Manifest Destiny" believers. Most of the protesters probably cross the river to express their views. Baird probably represents the views of his constituents.

[bizzzz-2009]

My question is, what is the Democrats position on Iran? Nothing?
If Hillary is elected, what is she going to do about Iran? Nothing?
Will we be retreating from Iran too?
Boy, she sure will be a tough war time President huh?
I''m sure she has Ahmedinigad, Assad, Chavez and Kim Jong Il shaking in their boots!

[erichsh]

Brian Baird shows the intellectual courage that so many of the Democrats surely lack. He may be of the Democrat Party, but his principals are Republican.

Stick by your principals, Mr. Baird - to hell with the moonbats - their days are numbered.

The Democrats and the MoveOn.org slimeballs remind me of the regime in Iran, who work overtime trying to suppress the truth about the war, as well as most other issues in the world.

Posted by One_American at 12:56 PM : Sep 26, 2007

Hey One_American, you saved me some time! I''ll just repeat your post, my view is the same.

[hwy71so]

The dims have no position. They refuse to act on anything in an expedient manner. They know no expedience.

[bizzzz-2009]

Ahmedinigad declared yesterday that the discussion of Iran''s nuclear program is now "closed."
If that is his final word on the matter and the west, including France and Germany, insist that Iran not be allowed to get a nuclear weapon, the liklihood of war seems more imminent that ever.
If we do go to war with Iran, Bush''s invasion of Iraq, despite how clumsily it was executed, would turn out to be a brilliant tactical manuveur in the long run.
Iraq is a perfect forward position, right next door to Iran. It separates Iran from Israel, so US forces could stop any missile or aircraft attack on Israel. Iraq has thousands of US troops staged there. We have a massive arsenal- troops, aircraft, rockets, missiles, fuel, etc. We can attack Iran twice as quickly being in Iraq that if we weren''t, as well as use many more shorter range artilery and rockets.
IF, INDEED, WE HAVE TO ATTACK IRAN, AS FRANCE AND GERMANY STATE IS POSSIBLE, THAN DEMOCRATS AND LIBERALS WILL HAVE TO CONCEDE THAT WHILE BUSH"S INVASION OF IRAQ WAS CLUMSY, IT WAS ALSO BRILLIANT.
What Democrats don''t understand is that invading Iraq was never about WMD''s or oil. It was about Iran. It is a policy that George Bush could never tell the truth about, especially 5 years ago, but with Ahmedinigad statements yesterday, the Iraq invasion is starting to make more and more sense.

[agnim]

CRUCIFIXION! American version

BARABBAS -- Mass murdering US President with his HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DEAD BODIES IN IRAQ!

JESUS -- Talkative Iran Preeacher with his hundreds of MERE WORDS!

And the violence-loving Jews AGAIN yelled, "Crucify him!"
"Crucify him!"

"Crucify amadenijad, the WORDSMITH!"

"And give us bush, the MASS MURDERER!"

Some things never seem to change with the Jews. LOL

Message?
Americans, save yourselves from the wicked & wanton slaughter!
Extricate yourselves from the Middle East madness of endless vengeance and violence, which has been going on among Middle East war lovers for thousands of years now!

[likeitis5050]

That''s typical for politics today. How dare a politician make an informed decision based on personal experience rather than what is spoon fed! The same applies to the Republican who does his own footwork and comes away understanding the healthcare issue or global warming issue based on his own observations. No one in politics is supposed to gravitate to the center, where most Americans want issues to be addressed, as is illustrated in this report. He did what every single politician should be doing and got off his a...ss and checked out something for himself and discovered the media wasn''t being unbiased and his information had been diluted. Good for him and shame on all those who aren''t doing the same thing, whether it''s looking into the illegal immigration problem, healthcare crisis, high cost of energy, or any of the other 5 or 6 hot button issues on the platform now. As voters we ought to be holding all the other representatives in office to the same standard...get off your a...ss and go look for yourself!!! I hope he knows there is an entirely different group of people who don''t subscribe blindly to one party or the other who are very pleased with his decision, even if it isn''t something we support. The fact that he exercised his right based on what HE observed, and not on what he was TOLD, speaks volumes to the character and integrity of this man.

[agnim]

"Agnim:

What is your point? And above all, what do you think that should be done to fix the problem?
Posted by nikosk1 at 02:10 PM : Sep 26, 2007"

The "point" is to wake the town and shake Americans out of their slumber and the Middle East morass!

The Semites are LOVERS of vengeance and violence. They have been ethnically cleansing and slaughtering each other for over 3 thousand years.

Americans should not want to be a part of the Semites love and thirst for endless, generations-old bloodletting in the Middle East.
It is doing us and the world no good!

[toldyouso21]

I mean, for a perfect example; who has actually documented one lie that Bush is supposed to have told?Posted by pwrslm at 12:02 PM : Sep 26, 2007


The media
Surely you jest? How about the lie in 2004 where Bush said he absolutely was NOT wiretapping without a warrant? how about him speaking about yellowcake at least 2 weeks AFTER the CIA told him the source was bogus? What about him saying no one discussed the levies and then the video showing him at the Katrian meeting looking like a deer in headlights while the levees were discussed? Or how about him saying that Bin Laden would be captured in 2001, saying He did not think much about Bin Laden in 2004, Vowing that Bin Laden was of the utmost priority in 9/2006 and 2 weeks later stating again that honestly Bin Laden was NOT a priority of the war on terror. Or maybe Bush saying his Administration had never said they wanted to "stay the course" and then the examples for the past 3 years of him and others saying that over and over again. Then there was his promise to fire all CIA leakers, That Saddam was linked to 9/11, that the US was not involved in renditions, you really would have done better to have us quote when he did not lie. That would take up less space.

really--what exactly is YOUR definition of a lie? Because Bush has told sooo many , that the standing joke about him is that any time his lips are moving--it is a lie.

[reporter14]

A Picture is worth a thousand Words

www.poconocommunitynews.com

[my2centss]

Parties are groups with similar ideas and beliefs. Why are the Dems so mad because someone does not believe like them on every issue? Good for him for standing up for his beliefs.

[socrates392]

Posted by my2centss at 08:39 PM : Sep 26, 2007

I agree. Don''t waste your time talking *** about him. He''ll pay with his job in the next election.

[Krazcarl]

likeitis5050... Great to hear rational opininion it''s getting very scarce here used to be news blog now it''s a hate blog ot further MY ageneda. Man has backbone doesen''t want to crawl under a rock and hide and I''m sure he thought this out in the current atmosphere. Most of these folks are just showing how stupid they are that''s why were at war in the first place.

[iceman_1960]

"The Semites are LOVERS of vengeance and violence. They have been ethnically cleansing and slaughtering each other for over 3 thousand years."
- Posted by Agnim at 03:05 PM : Sep 26, 2007

Some Semites were. The Assyrians, for instance.

Not the Jews. The Jews'' ancestors never exterminated anyone. They have never committed genocide.

Those bloody tales in the Book of Joshua and elsewhere, were pure fiction.

The ancestors of Jerry Seinfeld and Natalie Portman never did such things. They were peaceful industrious people.

Source:

"The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology''s New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts"
published in May, 2002 by Israeli archaeologist Israel Finkelstein of Tel Aviv University, and archaeologist Asher Silberman.

[hwy71so]

"This would make all the current Repugs in congress SHEEP - by your analogy. Cheers!

Posted by parrots7 at 02:27 PM : Sep 26, 2007"

I would rather that all members of congress; Senators and Reps alike, represent the PEOPLE and not the party. Seems to be the DIMocrats credo to follow party over good sense or popular opinion. They''re the party most likely to get a unanimous. The republicans tend to disagree with each other as needs dictate. This is a good thing; it builds strength and affects change. The DIMcrats are pretty much proven party biased. Not a good thing. They go along with the party even when in the wrong. Baird is stepping off the bandwagon and do his job.

[iceman_1960]

RE: "Those bloody tales in the Book of Joshua and elsewhere, were pure fiction. The ancestors of Jerry Seinfeld and Natalie Portman never did such things."

Not surprising at all.

"Natalie Portman has advocated for environmental causes from a young age, becoming a member of the environmental song and dance troupe at age twelve. She is a self-proclaimed "animal lover," and has been a vegetarian since she was eight years old. Portman has spent some of her free time involved in causes such as the Democrats'' 2004 U.S. presidential campaign and ending poverty. In 2004 and 2005 she traveled to Uganda, Guatemala, and Ecuador as the Ambassador of Hope for FINCA International, an organization that promotes micro-lending to help finance women-owned businesses in poor countries."

"On November 18, 2004, Seinfeld appeared at the Smithsonian Museum where the "Puffy Shirt" he wore in the famous Seinfeld episode, The Puffy Shirt, was being donated. He also gave a speech when presenting the "Puffy Shirt", claiming humorously that "This is the most embarrassing moment of my life."... On an episode of The Daily Show, host Jon Stewart remarked on the fact that Jerry Seinfeld did not change his name for the purpose of show business but then went on to ask what he would call himself if he did change it. Jerry then jokingly said, "Well, I would keep my last name, so as not to offend my parents and I would have to go with Jesus."

Source: Wikipedia

[dante805]

Just goes to show you how turn-coat the DEMs are. If you let moveon and dailykos run your party you deserve the rap. I predict the DEM party will fracture before the 08 elections and actually lose House and Senate seats. These hate groups are now infecting all moderate dems and independents. Look out Blue Dogs...ABC- ANYONE but Clinton, but NOT Obama.

[iceman_1960]

"Just goes to show you how turn-coat the DEMs are. If you let moveon and dailykos run your party you deserve the rap."
- Posted by dante805 at 08:02 AM : Sep 27, 2007

What hypocrisy.

How many times have Bush and Cheney appeared as honored guests on the Rush Limbaugh show ?

Would you like to read some Limbaugh quotes ? Just ask. I''ll be happy to provide them.

[iceman_1960]

RE: "How many times have Bush and Cheney appeared as honored guests on the Rush Limbaugh show ? Would you like to read some Limbaugh quotes ? Just ask. I''ll be happy to provide them."

Wow, dante805, I thought you''d never ask.

Here''s the pal of Bush and Cheney, their friend and host:

"I mean, why didn''t these morons leave New Orleans before the hurricane? I''ll tell you why: because they wanted to rape and loot! That''s just the way "some people" are! And if they''re black -- if the rapists and looters are black -- it''s not George Bush''s fault! We''ve had these problems ever since the Emancipation Proclamation. Once the whites leave town, all you''ve got is overwhelming lawlessness. That''s not racism, Mr. Snerdley; it''s a proven, demonstrable fact. Have you even seen a ghetto in Greenwich, Connecticut? I rest my case."

- Rush Limbaugh, 12 September 2005

Source:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh

[iceman_1960]

No mention of Joe Lieberman in this report.

That''s odd.

[iceman_1960]

Rush Limbaugh touts his close connections to Republicans, claiming that he "got a big hug" from President George W. Bush during a 2004 White House visit.

No doubt he did.

[prinzowhales]

"Not the Jews. The Jews'''' ancestors never exterminated anyone. They have never committed genocide."

Has anyone ever consulted with the Mormon geneology people in search of Amalekite ancestors? I don''t think so. This may well be the first recorded genocide in history...allegedly, God told the Jews to to this...rather like the talking dog who instructed the famous serial killer, Son of Sam, David Berkowitz and George Bush who said that God told to strike Afghanistan and Iraq.

[toldyouso21]

Congress has no sense. There are no checks and balances. One party is too corrupt and fascist to be in office--the other too weak. We should all vote 3rd party--so that both realize finally, that they ARE expendable and that they ignore the People at their own peril.


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[hillaryin08]

The Liberals Bail on their Base.......

(CBS/AP) The leading Democratic White House hopefuls conceded Wednesday night they cannot guarantee to pull all U.S. combat troops from Iraq by the end of the next presidential term in 2013.

"I think it''s hard to project four years from now," said Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois in the opening moments of a campaign debate in the nation''s first primary state.

"It is very difficult to know what we''re going to be inheriting," added Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

"I cannot make that commitment," said former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina.

[bizzzz-2009]

The democrats would sell their soul for pork money. They already have. John Murtha is a fat@ss, double talking idiot. When he''s not slandering soldiers in battle who are later acquitted, he''s lying to his anti war constituency, while war profitting at the same time.
What a guy. What a leader. What a piece of $hit.