WASHINGTON, Sept. 24, 2007

Bush Predicts Clinton Will Win Nomination

In Interview, President Also Says He Thinks Clinton Will Lose To GOP Nominee

  • President Bush said in an interview with journalist Bill Sammon that he believes Hillary Rodham Clinton will defeat Barack Obama in Democratic presidential primary voting. Photo

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(AP)  President Bush, breaking his rule not to talk about presidential politics, says he believes Hillary Rodham Clinton will defeat Barack Obama in Democratic presidential primary voting.

Mr. Bush also predicts that Clinton will be defeated in the November 2008 general election by the Republican nominee.

"I believe our candidate can beat her but it's going to be a tough race," the president said.

In primary election voting and party caucuses early next year voters either choose representatives who will nominate a candidate at party conventions in mid-2008 or indicate a preference for a candidate.

At the end of the primary process, leading candidates from both parties usually emerge forcing rivals to drop out of the race.

It has been difficult for Mr. Bush to remain silent about the 2008 president race, despite his promises not to be the "prognosticator in chief." He has been talking about the race and handicapping candidates during off-the-record chats with visitors to the White House.

He finally went public with his Clinton prediction in an interview for a book by journalist Bill Sammon.

"She's got a great national presence and this is becoming a national primary," Mr. Bush told Sammon. "And therefore the person with the national presence, who has got the ability to raise enough money to sustain an effort in a multiplicity of sites, has got a good chance to be nominated."

The White House did not challenge Sammon's account.

"Frankly, it's difficult to not talk about the '08 election a lot," White House press secretary Dana Perino said. "There's a lot of interest in it and it does have consequence."

She denied the notion that Mr. Bush was talking up Clinton's prospects in order to energize the Republican base against her candidacy.

"The bottom line is, it really doesn't matter what the president thinks about who will win the Democratic primary," Perino said. "There's going to be a showdown ...and they'll figure out whose going to be the nominee and from there the president will campaign vigorously for the Republican candidate.

On the Republican side, Mr. Bush has expressed surprise that former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani remains the front-runner despite his liberal positions on social and cultural issues normally critical to the party base, according to The Washington Post. It ran a story about Bush's recent off-the-record chat with television news anchors and Sunday show hosts.

Mr. Bush said Giuliani's popularity was a sign of how important the terrorism issue is to Republican voters, the newspaper said. It said Mr. Bush cautioned against ruling out Sen. John McCain, saying he had managed to revive his campaign after an implosion earlier this year.

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by pastdue1 September 24, 2007 1:10 PM PDT
Hillary better quake in her boots, because bush has not been right about one thing during his administration yet.
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by voteronpaul3 September 24, 2007 1:19 PM PDT
**** TAKE AMERICA BACK ****
**** STOP THE WAR & Corporate Corruption****

Ron Paul has it all.

He has NEVER voted:
* to raise taxes
* for an unbalanced budget
* to raise congressional pay
* for a federal restriction on gun ownership
* to increase the power of the executive branch

He HAS voted:
* against the Iraq war
* against the inappropriately named USA PATRIOT act
* against regulating the internet
* against the Military Commissions Act

He will eliminate the IRS, Wasteful Government Spending & Stop The Iraq War Immediately!

Most importantly, he voted NO on anything in Congress that is not allowed by the Constitution.

He is the only candidate not a member of the CFR!

Shouldn''t ALL members of Congress uphold the Constitution? Aren''t they SWORN to uphold it? You can bet Paul won''t call the Constitution "just a G**D***ed piece of paper" like George Bush is reported to have.

If you want a candidate you can TRUST due to a proven track record, visit ronpaul2008.com and get busy spreading the word. The Mainstream Media is a lagging indicator!!

Ron Paul Revolution: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ron+paul

Get Active join a meetup.com group today!

Also checkout http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=federal reserve fraud
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by gkc99 September 24, 2007 1:26 PM PDT
One thing that''s surer that Hilly''s candidacy is that the Repug candidates'' slogan is gonna be "George Who?"
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by terrapin78 September 24, 2007 1:31 PM PDT
Will someone sew up the Chimps lips? Please!!!!!!
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by rwassel September 24, 2007 1:48 PM PDT
What a freakin'' idiot. Hey George, instead of trying to predict the 2008 election (I wonder if he''s using the same intelligence that he got about Iraq?), maybe you should focus on your job.
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by jonny_chaos September 24, 2007 2:21 PM PDT
the voting booth smells more and more like a port-a-pottie every election.
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by DaveGress September 24, 2007 2:48 PM PDT
I''m glad Bush thinks that...since he hasn''t been right in 7 years about anything!!!!!

Dennis anyone?
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by antoniof123 September 24, 2007 2:50 PM PDT
Revelation the GOP leader has spoken what next we have a mess in Iraq.
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by jn122736 September 24, 2007 3:03 PM PDT

He has NEVER voted:
* to raise taxes
* for an unbalanced budget
Re., Post by VoteRonPaul3 at 01:19 PM : Sep 24, 2007:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ron Paul voted FOR Bush''s massive tax cuts in time of war. Tax cuts that mostly benefit the wealthy.

Borrowing the money to cover those tax cuts raised the national debt to over $9 trillion, which cost us $406 billion in interest, in 2006 alone.

Interest on the national debt is now costing taxpayers as much for ONE YEAR as the total costs of The Iraq fiasco or even the total costs for WW2.

Would Ron Paul Vote for a tax increase to reduce the national debt, or does he have any intentions of lowering the interest costs other than eliminating all government programs that benefit the people, including Social Security?

Ron Paul=republican=stay the course
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by b48151 September 24, 2007 3:14 PM PDT
I would have just one question for Clinton...Do you feel safe living with a RAPIST?
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by jerr11 September 24, 2007 3:15 PM PDT
Bad news for Clinton.

The last time this President made a prediction about flowers for our troops in Iraq, it didn''t quite work out that way at all!

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by drummer94 September 24, 2007 3:20 PM PDT
What the he11 does he know? He was handed the last election and has mucked up the country-maybe beyond repair. The democratic president is going to be left with a mess. And that will be lonny-toon''s legacy.
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by socrates392 September 24, 2007 3:22 PM PDT
Mission Accomplished!

He''s a freakin'' psychic?!

Why is this news worthy?
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by tylenol6 September 24, 2007 3:30 PM PDT
Bush wipe and Hitlery are close friends people. CBS and all the news media already pretty much have her elected as El Presidente. I guess the news media thinks that if you keep saying it over and over again to the american people "Hillary will win the nomination", people will believe. Hitlery wants it pretty bad, but the truth is she is scum. If she ever did get elected, she would continue the course Bush is on. It would be a sad day in America if she won. Besides, her ties to the corrupt Mr. Hsu should raise
a red flag people. Wake up.....
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by rushlimpdrug September 24, 2007 3:31 PM PDT
"President Bush, breaking his rule not to talk about presidential politics . . . "

he even breaks his own rules?
guess that''s no surprise.
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by pastdue1 September 24, 2007 3:47 PM PDT
Wonder why bush grits his teeth when he grins?
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by pastdue1 September 24, 2007 3:55 PM PDT
Newt says he will enter the race if he can raise $30 million next week. Maybe bush has gotten him to sell his soul to run and that is why he is predicting a lose for Hillary in the election. If Gingrich can raise that $30 million in that short of time ~ someone is going to own him.
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by macusweil September 24, 2007 4:11 PM PDT
Take all the gloves off Hillary!! The ''08 election is not about the future of America, but whether America has a future!! The GOP ''culture of corruption" is so pervasive that if they are not stopped cold next year we''ll have a 20 trillion dollar deficit under the next GOP president and the Arabs and Chinese will be drawing lots on who can buy the US out first.
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by voteronpaul3 September 24, 2007 4:17 PM PDT
Ron Paul has it all. http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about

**** TAKE AMERICA BACK ****
**** STOP THE WAR & Corporate Corruption****

Ron Paul has it all.

He has NEVER voted:
* to raise taxes
* for an unbalanced budget
* to raise congressional pay
* for a federal restriction on gun ownership
* to increase the power of the executive branch

He HAS voted:
* against the Iraq war
* against the inappropriately named USA PATRIOT act
* against regulating the internet
* against the Military Commissions Act

He will eliminate the IRS, Wasteful Government Spending & Stop The Iraq War Immediately!

Most importantly, he voted NO on anything in Congress that is not allowed by the Constitution.

He is the only candidate not a member of the CFR!

Shouldn''''t ALL members of Congress uphold the Constitution? Aren''''t they SWORN to uphold it? You can bet Paul won''''t call the Constitution "just a G**D***ed piece of paper" like George Bush is reported to have.

If you want a candidate you can TRUST due to a proven track record, visit ronpaul2008.com and get busy spreading the word. The Mainstream Media is a lagging indicator!!

Ron Paul Revolution: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ron+paul

Get Active join a meetup.com group today!

Also checkout http://video.google.com search for Federal Reserve Fraud
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by jn122736 September 24, 2007 4:29 PM PDT

He has NEVER voted:
* to raise taxes
* for an unbalanced budget
Re., Post by VoteRonPaul3 at 01:19 PM : Sep 24, 2007:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ron Paul voted FOR massive tax cuts in time of war. Tax cuts that mostly benefited the wealthy
Borrowing the money to cover those tax cuts raised the national debt to over $9 trillion, which cost us $406 billion in interest, in 2006 alone.

Interest on the national debt is now costing taxpayers as much for ONE YEAR as the total costs of The Iraq fiasco or even the total costs for WW2.

Would Ron Paul Vote for a tax increase to reduce the national debt, or does he have any intentions of lowering the interest costs other than eliminating all government programs that benefit the people, including Social Security?

Ron Paul=republican=stay the course
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by bwessels September 24, 2007 4:41 PM PDT
Of course Bush says "our candidate" will win, regardless of who it is... Warrantless wiretaps with zero accountability have various and sundry uses. Puppetmaster Cheney, who stridently believes that the executive branch should be all-powerful and cloaked in secrecy, will know what to do. He has MUCH better "plumbers" than Nixon ever had, and he''s even more "Tricky."
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by iceman_1960 September 24, 2007 4:42 PM PDT
"I believe our candidate can beat her but it''s going to be a tough race," the president said."

Bush will be the Willie Horton on the 2008 campaign.

All that Hillary will need to do to win, is to hang Dubya around her opponent''s neck.
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by iceman_1960 September 24, 2007 4:45 PM PDT
"Mr. Bush has expressed surprise that former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani remains the front-runner despite his liberal positions on social and cultural issues..."

Bush is completely out of touch. That statement proves it, if proof were needed.
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by erasmus6 September 24, 2007 4:56 PM PDT
"I would have just one question for Clinton...Do you feel safe living with a RAPIST?"
Posted by B48151 at 03:14 PM : Sep 24, 2007

RAPE-violate; force a person to submit unwillingly to sexual intercourse.

Excuse me, but if I recall, Monica the s-l-u-t, spread her legs willingly.
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by liberalme September 24, 2007 5:14 PM PDT
I wouldn''t vote for any of the incumbent Republicans for dog catcher!
They don''t represent the needs of America or Americans.
Anyone that supports this "profits for Bush" war should be exiled to Iraq!
Our great country has been broken by this regime of self appointed leaders who got into office the first time thanks to Diebold and the second time by a "problem" in Ohio.
These leaders have broken our military and high ranking Generals have turned on him.

The Democrats only recourse is to stop voting to fund any support of the government--I''m for it, but many would raise hell.
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by glossypan September 24, 2007 7:36 PM PDT
Just in case you are interested and certainly not to encourage wagering: the London betting market has Hillary 5/11 ($11 wager returns $16) to capture the Democratic nomination and even money , 1/1, to become president. Giuliani is the favorite for the Republican nomination at 13/8 and 6/1 for the presidency.
In Nevada, Hillary is about 4/11 for nominee, but only 2/1 to win. They give Giuliani 11/10 and 4/1.
Do not count on getting rich with offsetting bets. Only small legal wagers are accepted on elections.
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by liberalme September 24, 2007 7:40 PM PDT
Small legal wagers? On people who can raise $30 million plus to win an election?? hahahahahahahaha Oh goodness I''m in hysterics lol
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by glossypan September 24, 2007 7:47 PM PDT
Good shot liberalme, I should have specified "in the casinos".
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by cdlopez1 September 24, 2007 8:01 PM PDT
Bush could be right about Mrs. Clinton winning the Democratic ticket.
If I were Mrs. Clinton I would not be worried about Bush saying that she is going to lose to a Republican.
I would be more upset that he thinks she is going to win the Democratic Ticket.
Just name one thing that this President has been right about!!
If the American people are stupid enough to vote for someone with a track record like Bush, we will have people moving out of the US. Eight years of this is enough. My family has been here for over 150 years and we are thinking about it.
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by liberalme September 24, 2007 8:26 PM PDT
I agree with you CD--It would be scary if Bush were right about Hillary winning the ticket.

Look at how right he was when he looked into Yeltzins eyes and saw his soul! And how God told him to be president.. The man is soooo ready for a padded room.
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by undermyboot September 24, 2007 8:55 PM PDT
Mr. Bush hopes Clinton wins the nomination so his Republican successor can win and continue moving this country in one direction...

Latest News: Congresswoman Harman (Chairwoman of House Terrorism subcommittee) revealed today that BUSH THREATENED CONGRESS with a bogus "terrorist threat" in order to scare Congress into voting for more dictatorial powers for Bush (It worked). On Aug. 2, just before Congress agreed to give Bush the power to spy on Americans without FISA warrants, Bush officials told Congress (in secret session) that CONGRESS was a target of an "IMMINENT ATTACK" and that the powers he wanted them to give him were needed to protect Congress from attack. Bush''s monkey in the Senate (Trent Lott) said, "Disaster could be at our doorstep". The intelligence agencies already knew that there was NO THREAT, but the truth only came out AFTER the vote. I guess Bush thought he could get away with this and no one would dare break silence (calling the lie a "state secret"). Too bad for him that at least one patriot told America what its petty dictator tried and lied about this time.

Can you smell a rat? A big, fascist, dictatorial, un-American, "Presidential" rat? This "King" is nothing more than a petty dictator-wannabe. He (and his cabal) should be tried and shot for crimes against our country, laws, and our Constitution. NOW! If Congress and the courts do not soon grow a pair our liberty and way of life are doomed.
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by liberalme September 24, 2007 9:14 PM PDT
Your feelings are among the majority! And don''t we all feel helpless and frustrated!
I sure do. These people in Washington are dangerous to our country and the world! More so than the terrorists.
Bush wouldn''t know the truth if it smacked him in the face, and most Americans are tired of being lied to, I personally don''t believe a word that slips through those fangs of his.
Bush is the person we''ve been warned about for years--that crazy little man ready to "push the button".

He is nothing to be respected but if our Congress and Senate don''t stop him soon, he will be someone the world will have to worry about--he is evil!!
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by liberalme September 24, 2007 9:15 PM PDT
Funny, my grandfather said Nixon was the devil!! Looks like he came back--the devils sire! lol
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by iceman_1960 September 24, 2007 10:01 PM PDT
"I would have just one question for Clinton...Do you feel safe living with a RAPIST?"
Posted by B48151 at 03:14 PM : Sep 24, 2007

Ronald Reagan was the one credibly accused of rape, not Bill Clinton.

Bill Clinton''s accuser, Juanita Broaddrick, admitted that she and her husband attended a Bill Clinton fundraiser shortly after the alleged rape. She also was involved with old Clinton enemies in Arkansas.

The accusation made against Ronald Reagan (when he was a powerful Hollywood figure) by Selene Walters is a lot more believable.
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by cdlopez1 September 24, 2007 10:09 PM PDT
Bush could be right about Mrs. Clinton winning the Democratic ticket.
If I were Mrs. Clinton I would not be worried about Bush saying that she is going to lose to a Republican.
I would be more upset that he thinks she is going to win the Democratic Ticket.
Just name one thing that this President has been right about!!
If the American people are stupid enough to vote for someone with a track record like Bush, we will have people moving out of the US. Eight years of this is enough. My family has been here for over 150 years and we are thinking about it.
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by likeitis5050 September 24, 2007 10:15 PM PDT
Bush making predictions...that''s a good one. That implies he has no power to make it so...life after the White House might be too much of a shock for him. No one to give a sh*t about anything he has to say. Has a nice ring to it.
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by cdlopez1 September 24, 2007 10:15 PM PDT
Bush could be right about Mrs. Clinton winning the Democratic ticket.
If I were Mrs. Clinton I would not be worried about Bush saying that she is going to lose to a Republican.
I would be more upset that he thinks she is going to win the Democratic Ticket.
Just name one thing that this President has been right about!!
If the American people are stupid enough to vote for someone with a track record like Bush, we will have people moving out of the US. Eight years of this is enough. My family has been here for over 150 years and we are thinking about it.
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by liberalme September 24, 2007 10:19 PM PDT
Awwww he''s just listening to those voices in his head again-telling him he''s a prophet--she''s way ahead of the rest---he''s wagering a safe bet.
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by socrates392 September 25, 2007 1:26 AM PDT
Awwww he''''s just listening to those voices in his head again-telling him he''''s a prophet--she''''s way ahead of the rest---he''''s wagering a safe bet.

Posted by liberalme at 10:19 PM : Sep 24, 2007

Obama on the other hand is a gambler . . . he''s bettin'' on himself. I read it today on Cbsnews . . .
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by jack3213 September 25, 2007 6:33 AM PDT
Today Clinton offers no big ideas, no crusading causes -- her own tacit admission, no evidence of bravery in the service of a larger ideal. Instead, her Senate record is an assemblage of many, many small gains. Her real accomplishment in the Senate has been to rehabilitate the image and political career of Hillary Rodham Clinton. Impressive though that has been in its particulars, it makes for a rather thin claim on the presidency. Senator Clinton has plenty to talk about, but she doesn''t have much to say. So she wins the Dem side, where is the surprise there! No brainer. She isn''t going to win the Presidency, and that''s a no brainer, too.
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by hwy71so September 25, 2007 7:24 AM PDT
It doesn''t matter who will be the next president. The congress is so messed up being under a democrat majority, they''ll not get anything done anyway. Just more whining and ripping the country off.
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by hwy71so September 25, 2007 8:59 AM PDT
But, the repubs are the MINORITY.

According to all the hype of electing the DImocrat majority was THEY, the DIMocrats, were going to affect change. What a laugh. When the repubs were lead, it was the repubs fault, now with the Dems in lead its STILL the repubs fault. What a knee slapping laugh!!!!!!

I''m about to fall off my chair here.
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by hwy71so September 25, 2007 9:01 AM PDT
...and the way they treat the military is pathetic.
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by homespunlady September 25, 2007 10:18 AM PDT
...and the way they treat the military is pathetic.
Posted by Hwy71So at 09:01 AM : Sep 25, 2007

Don''t know about that do you?
Thinking back, MY BEST military pay and benefit increases were during Democratic Administrations.

Republican Administrations were better for Budget Busting Military - Industrial Complex Boondoggles like "Starwars" and the Multi-Billion dollar pieces of "defective" equipment such boondoggles create.

Since WHEN were CORPORATIONS and their profits "the military"?

That''s the problem NOW as a I see it.

THE TROOPS are being FORCED into LONGER more brutal tours and MUCH LESS chance to recuperate while the WAR PROFITEERS are raking in the dough hand over fist!

Our President considers rising CORPORATE PROFITEERING over rising HUMAN TOLL as a "success".

NO WONDER some of the officers have begun to think "why not"? and taken bribes like their CIVILIAN COUNTERPARTS.
Problem is the officers get nailed for a few thousand while the likes of HALIBURTON GET AWAY WITH MULTI-BILLIONS SCOT FREE!!!!
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by hwy71so September 25, 2007 10:56 AM PDT
I was active duty under Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush part II. The Clinton years were the worst for pay raises and other benefits as well as public relations. You can NOT tell me otherwise. If I could roll my eyes on this message board, I''d sure be doing it now.
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by homespunlady September 25, 2007 11:31 AM PDT
I was active duty under Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush part II
Posted by Hwy71So at 10:56 AM

Yep, see you Served under 1 Democrat with a REPUBLICAN CONGRESS and 3 Republicans.

No wonder you''re BITTER and confused.

I go FURTHER back and look at the WHOLE Picture.
I actually paid attention to WHO pushes what and WHY.

Believe the CURRENT CIC is AGAINST the current DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS led MILITARY PAY RAISE but he DOES want 200 BILLION for his CORPORATE CRONIES and the IRAQ MONEY-PIT where OUR TROOPS get to serve increasingly LONGER deployments with ridiculously shorter times BACK HOME.

TROOPS are NOT disposable machines despite the NEOCON SPIN.
I''ve lost friends to the results.
EXHAUSTION creates "accidents" and "Mistakes" and the next thing is a family that''s being told their loved one is another "casualty of war" - BS!
The reality is they''re casualties of egotistical, calculated, mismanagement where HUMANS are considered LESS VALUABLE than equipment. Thus state of the art aircraft hangers and medieval rehabilitation centers for our troops (until the families of the troops went to the press).
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by hwy71so September 25, 2007 11:40 AM PDT
You didn''t lose anything. These MEN and WOMEN give and have given up their lives and their freedom for something greater that they believe in. They have chosen this sacrifice. It wasn''t taken from them.

Yet, the democrats constantly down play their abilities, their effectiveness, their loyalty, etc. CONSTANTLY. Meanwhile, all they preach is "pull them out". Make THEM look like fools on our behalf. They don''t want closure, they want to save money.

Well, believe what you like. I WORE the uniform, I didn''t look at it from the sidelines.
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by homespunlady September 25, 2007 12:01 PM PDT
Proves there''s diversity even in the military.

I wore the uniform too - for OVER 20 years. Put up with a LOT of SNAFU BS and had a chance to see a lot of the "inner workings".
Dug into some of the reasons behind what happens. STILL dealing with military stuff along with watching out for the politics behind those decisions.

Gotta admit - it''s an eye-opener most people don''t like to hear and some refuse to face no matter what.

Here''s a hint....
Honestly now, think about it, WHY would GWB come out and speak SO FAVORABLY concerning Hillary then as an aside, reassure his "base" they''ll win?

It''s NOT about politics, it''s about POWER.

For me it''s about the ABUSE of that power - on BOTH sides. I prefer Facts over rhetoric.
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by homespunlady September 25, 2007 12:23 PM PDT
You didn''''t lose anything.
Posted by Hwy71So at 11:40 AM : Sep 25,2007

Talk about hypocrisy and caring NOTHING for the TROOPS!!
Maybe close MILITARY friends are NOTHING to you but for me they meant A LOT and I''ll miss them.

Sacrifice on the alter of a foolish and unthinking LEADER''S EGO, MISMANAGEMENT, MISDIRECTION and CALCULATED GREED is as WRONG as it is STRATEGIC IDIOCY.

It''s the argument of far too many DIPLOMACY CHALLENGED, failed, Empire builders as an EXCUSE for their FOOLISH actions.

I''ll continue to push for DECENT tour lengths, conditions, treatment and benefits FOR OUR TROOPS regardless.
Too bad you can''t do the same.
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by hwy71so September 25, 2007 1:16 PM PDT
Bad choice of words on my part, I suppose. I saying that a loss is something we have no control over. Their service was/is a gift they GAVE to this country.

I am proud of the service of my friends and relatives in the armed forces. I don''t feel a sense of loss, no, I feel a sense of honor for knowing them and great respect for their sacrifice.

But, that''s just me...
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