Iran Closes Some Border Crossings To Iraq

Move Reportedly A Protest Of The U.S. Detention Of An Iranian Official

(CBS/AP)  Monday's raid in the Shiite neighborhood of Sadr City came on the heels of accusations that Iran is smuggling surface-to-air missiles and other advanced weapons into Iraq for use against American troops, and increasing protests by Iraqi officials over Farhadi's detention.

His arrest has taxed relations between Iraq and the U.S., already strained after the shooting deaths of 11 civilians at Nisoor Square in Baghdad on Sept. 16 - allegedly at the hands of Blackwater USA security contractors.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has said the Blackwater incident was among several "serious challenges to the sovereignty of Iraq" by the company, adding he will take the case up in discussions with President Bush in New York, when the two meet on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly.

Al-Maliki also condemned the Iranian's arrest, saying he understood Farhadi had been invited to Iraq.

"The government of Iraq is an elected one and sovereign. When it gives a visa, it is responsible for the visa," al-Maliki told The Associated Press in an interview Sunday in New York. "We consider the arrest ... of this individual who holds an Iraqi visa and a (valid) passport to be unacceptable."

The military said the suspects targeted in Monday's raid were believed to be Iranian-backed rogue Shiite fighters. During the raid, U.S. troops were engaged with at least one armor-piercing explosively formed penetrator, or EFP, weapons that the military says have been brought in from Iran and killed hundreds of American troops in recent months.

Tehran denies the allegations, saying it is promoting stability in Iraq, not fueling the violence.

Sadr City is a stronghold of the Mahdi Army. The militia is nominally loyal to the radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr but disaffected factions have broken off from the group in recent months to battle U.S. troops in the neighborhood.

U.S. military spokesman Rear Adm. Mark Fox said Sunday that American soldiers were continuing to find Iranian-supplied weaponry including the Misagh 1, a portable surface-to-air missile that uses an infrared guidance system.

Other advanced Iranian weaponry found in Iraq includes the RPG-29 rocket-propelled grenade, 240 mm rockets and EFPs, Fox said.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denied his country was aiding Shiite militias in an interview with CBS' 60 Minutes that aired Sunday.

"We don't need to do that. We are very much opposed to war and insecurity," Ahmadinejad told 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley in the interview aired Sunday.

Ahmadinejad arrived in New York Sunday to attend the U.N. General Assembly. "The insecurity in Iraq is detrimental to our interests."

Rising tensions between Iran and the United States have worried Iraqi officials - many of whom are members of political parties with close ties to Tehran.

[kynoto1]

To IOWEIGN:

Ever heard of making an argument more than 4 words long? The portions of the wikipedia entry on the incident use several pages to cover the IFF matter and it is NOT all supportive of your conclusion. Simplistic comments = simplistic thinking = waste of our time.

[kynoto1]

"The radiological dangers of pure depleted uranium are relatively low, lower (60%) than those of naturally-occurring uranium due to the removal of the more radioactive isotopes, as well as due to its long half-life (4.46 billion years)."

"The chemical toxicity of uranium salts is greater than their radiological toxicity."

"Studies of depleted uranium aerosol exposure have concluded that uranium combustion product particles would quickly settle out of the air [22]. Measurements made in areas where depleted uranium munitions were used extensively did not find significantly higher than average uranium concentrations in the soil, just a few months after contamination. [23] Most studies have shown that DU ammunition has no measurable detrimental health effects, either in the short or long term. The International Atomic Energy Agency, for example, reported in 2003 that, "based on credible scientific evidence, there is no proven link between DU exposure and increases in human cancers or other significant health or environmental impacts," although "Like other heavy metals, DU is potentially poisonous. In sufficient amounts, if DU is ingested or inhaled it can be harmful because of its chemical toxicity. High concentration *could* cause kidney damage"[19]"

[kynoto1]

As for DU - you are repeating the endlessly circular-referenced urban legend, CT crapola that has no connection to reality. The libertyforlife site is hilariously screwed up. It says, "DU emits 60% of the radiation of enriched uranium and behaves in the body the same way as other uranium.", when in fact, it has 60% of the radiation of NATURAL uranium, which is very low. It is nearly all U238, which is not radioactive AT ALL. The tiny remaining U235 has a half-life of 4.6 billion years, which means it is BARELY radioactive and the emmisions are incredibly weak.

"The NATO nations and permanent members of the United Nations Security Council, of France, the United Kingdom and the United States have consistently rejected calls for a ban,[16] maintaining that its use continues to be legal, and that the health risks are entirely unsubstantiated.[17] "

"Other relatively minor consumer product uses have included: incorporation into dental porcelain used for false teeth%u2026"

"DU is also used for shielding for radiation sources used in medical and industrial radiography."

"External exposure to radiation from depleted uranium is generally not a major concern because the alpha particle emitted by its isotopes travel only a few centimeters in air or can be stopped by a sheet of paper. Also, the uranium-235 that remains in depleted uranium emits only a small amount of low-energy gamma radiation." (continued)

[kynoto1]

To Prinzowhales: I''ve encountered your type many times, so I know with certainty that none of what I''m posting has any chance of swaying your closed mind, but others may be deterred from the conspiracy theorist path.

According to the Dept. of Veteran''s Affairs link that YOU gave, if you do the math, you will see that there is no statistical differences between the combat troops, troops in theater, and the troops based elsewhere in the world. There is nothing in the report to substantiate the headline. One could say that 100% of Civil War veterans are dead, therefore, the Lincoln administration exposed them to some terrible danger.

[ioweign]

To Prinzowhales: "It was the Regime that shot down an Iranian passenger plane, murdering all aboard." This incident has been examined in detail and you only insist that it was murder because you are biased against the US. There is not only no evidence for it being intentional there is NO rationale.

"It has been the trillion dollars in aid to the Zionist state that has allowed it to grow and attack its neighbors and hold the inhabitants of the land in an apartheid existence while flouting the UN." The use of "Zionist state" instead of Israel reveals your viewpoint clearly, but you go on to drive it home. Israel only attacks as defensive measures. You cannot name an exception without relying on grossly misleading interpretations of fact. The "apartheid existence" is largely a result of decades-long policies of neighboring Arab states, the need to protect themsleves from suicidal terrorists, etc. Note that the sizeable Arab population of Israel shares all the benefits of full citizenship, are loyal citizens, and are the only Arabs outside of Iraqi Kurdistan to ever live in democracy.

Posted by kynoto1 at 12:47 PM : Sep 24, 2007



Ever hear of IFF ??

[prinzowhales]

Over 73,000 Gulf War vets have died. It was a ''cheap'' war, wasn''t it? Now a Bush has started two more wars and is dying--or at least our servicemen will be--for a third.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_clive_bo_070921_department_of_vetera.htm

Soldiers! The enemy is in Washington. The borders are open, our Constitution set at naught and as vile a pack of villains as ever disgraced any land are at the helm of government. Troops Home Now!

[voteronpaul3]

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[prinzowhales]

kynoto1(cont)You can "devine" the necessary information from your radar screen--as the USS Sides was able to discern that the plane was civilian and climbing, are we to say that Rogers was not only reckless, but incompetent as well? Kamikazes come at you, not away from you. It doesn''t take a genius to know this.

Rogers wasn''t driving carefully on any icy road. He was recklessly engaged in violating Iranian waters and incompetently managing his air defense. The USS Sides got it right. The Iranian got it right--his transponder was on and working. Rogers crossed the line between responsible management and reckless disregard for human life.

They are indeed, dead...the corpus delicti...it was upon them that Rogers'' crime was committed--whether the murder occurred due to pre-meditation, or whether it was due to the reckless conduct that he undertook...it would have ended badly in any event... and, of course, his reckless conduct was his signature in the Gulf engagements.

[prinzowhales]

kynoto1--When a blip comes up on your screen, you note not merely a presence but have the target''s speed, altitude and course and you can tell whether or not it is climbing or descending. The airliner did not pose a threat--to anything more important than careers. It is interesting to note that the blip was gaining altitude, not moving as though to attack. Captain Rogers was a lying, murdering dirt bag-- He had already broken the rules of engagement and his recklessness cost the lives of 300 souls. Admiral Crowe admitted later that Rogers fired his missiles from inside Iranian territorial waters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

As to your first point, the responsibility to determine the nature of the target lies with the attacker. Carelessness and supposition are not mitigating circumstances--The recklessness of the CO of the Vincennes was the primary reason for the tragedy. (cont)

[kynoto1]

To starleo146: But you can understand mine. My comment was meant to help you. Mosty people would simply give up trying to read your posts.

[kynoto1]

To Prinzowhales: "When you fire a guided missile at a passenger jet, it is always intentional." The firing was intentional. Firing at an innocent passenger jet was not. Of course, you know that, but you are willing to cop to such sloppy logic in order to support your bias.

"There was even a weak attempt at justifying the attack by saying that the plane could have been a ''''suicide plane'''' that could ram one of our vessels." Which it could have been. Had it been, and the ship had taken massive casualties, I wonder what you would *** about. In military action, one usually has imperfect and insufficient information and quick decisions are required. That is its nature. I suppose that every military detachment should employ a genius such as yourself who can reliably divine the correct response at all times.

"I call it ''''murder'''' because that is what the taking of human life is--murder." Genius again. By your logic, if a doctor attempts a risky procedure and the patient dies, it''s murder. If you lose control on an icy road and hit a pedestrian, you are a murderer. I repeat - Of course, you know that, but you are willing to cop to such sloppy logic in order to support your bias.

"They are dead! It is not a mistake." And besides exclamation points, your evidence is what again?

"It was our ship, our missile and our hands on the controls. You can investigate this mass murder till ''''ell freezes over and it remains a murder." Yup - pure genious.

[aldee41]

Oh Boy! War with Iran! A little going away present from King George the Lesser.
The next President will be a Democrat.
Chose wisely. Chose Richardson.

[kynoto1]

To MCVet:
1) Invoking your status as a "Combat Veteran of Vietnam" is silly ad hominem fallacial logic and meaningless. It does not substitiute for an actual argument.

2) As for the rest of your rant? "Maybe you need to look up the word FASCIST... educate yourself BEFORE you start trying to make others look inferior!! It would appear to me folks than any person with good common sense can see that our Present leadership and his direction are DEAD WRONG. These people have just about whooped the Boy beyond belief. Soon they will be asking him to leave and what''''s he going to do?? It''''s not stupid to admit you followed a LOSER.. Bush is most certainly that but to continue to follow him FAILURE after FAILURE and FAILURE is STUPID!! If we listen to you fool''''s, we''''d still have Rummy out there everyday telling us how the Insurgency is on it''''s last legs. Sieg Heil Bush!!" What part of "when did I ever say that" don''t you understand?

[voteronpaul3]

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* against the Iraq war
* against the inappropriately named USA PATRIOT act
* against regulating the internet
* against the Military Commissions Act

He will eliminate the IRS, Wasteful Government Spending & Stop The Iraq War Immediately!

Most importantly, he voted NO on anything in Congress that is not allowed by the Constitution.

He is the only candidate not a member of the CFR!

Shouldn''''t ALL members of Congress uphold the Constitution? Aren''''t they SWORN to uphold it? You can bet Paul won''''t call the Constitution "just a G**D***ed piece of paper" like George Bush is reported to have.

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[mcvet]

Your handle is apropos:

1) Cholera is contagious via the sanitary conditions and not via person-person contact as you imply.

2) Because of its transmission mode, cholera is not susceptible to weaponization and such has never been attempted. Besides, their is NO rationale for it. Your rationale appears to be rabid "hate America firstism".

3) We are demonstrably not stealing Iraqi oil. The mindless spouting of this groundless assertion is a staple of the non-thinking American Left.

Posted by kynoto1 at 01:50 PM : Sep 24, 2007
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Don''t know if I fit your "American Left" or not but from a Combat Veteran of Vietnam YOU are FULL OF IT!! You spout word''s out but the meaning isn''t there Sparky. Maybe you need to look up the word FASCIST... educate yourself BEFORE you start trying to make others look inferior!! It would appear to me folks than any person with good common sense can see that our Present leadership and his direction are DEAD WRONG. These people have just about whooped the Boy beyond belief. Soon they will be asking him to leave and what''s he going to do?? It''s not stupid to admit you followed a LOSER.. Bush is most certainly that but to continue to follow him FAILURE after FAILURE and FAILURE is STUPID!! If we listen to you fool''s, we''d still have Rummy out there everyday telling us how the Insurgency is on it''s last legs. Sieg Heil Bush!!

[drummer94]

We can expect a slow-down of bombs blowing up our guys now right? How much ya wanna bet if that happens shrub will credit the surge?

[prinzowhales]

kynoto1-When you fire a guided missile at a passenger jet, it is always intentional. There was even a weak attempt at justifying the attack by saying that the plane could have been a ''suicide plane'' that could ram one of our vessels.

I call it ''murder'' because that is what the taking of human life is--murder. They are dead! It is not a mistake. It was our ship, our missile and our hands on the controls. You can investigate this mass murder till ''ell freezes over and it remains a murder.

[starleo146]

"Greenspan even recently bluntly stated the same (while even justifying the strategy of securing the oil for American interests)." The relevant passage from the Greenspan book has been utterly distorted beyond recognition until it has no resemblance to its original meaning. This is a fantastic counter-example to your belief that the media is either in bed w/ the gov''''t, unwilling to disagree w/ the gov''''t, or hoodwinked by the gov''''t. In this case, the media bias has led them to purposely mislead (initially) and then blindly repeat (because it suits their bias and they are lazy) misinformation who''''s target is the gov''''t.

Posted by kynoto1 at 10:20 AM : Sep 24, 2007

Too much punctuation man commas. periods, quotation marks, parenthesis, Man your only making a comment not writing a novel........

[starleo146]

To starleo146: Puctuation is your friend ;o)

Posted by kynoto1 at 12:48 PM : Sep 24, 2007

You know These perfect people who look for mistakes in English or punctuation just kill me just look at the message and if you can''t understand it just ROLL ON BY PROFESSOR OR INTERNET POLICE

[kynoto1]

Nancy_Naive:

Your handle is apropos:

1) Cholera is contagious via the sanitary conditions and not via person-person contact as you imply.

2) Because of its transmission mode, cholera is not susceptible to weaponization and such has never been attempted. Besides, their is NO rationale for it. Your rationale appears to be rabid "hate America firstism".

3) We are demonstrably not stealing Iraqi oil. The mindless spouting of this groundless assertion is a staple of the non-thinking American Left.