NEW YORK, Sept. 23, 2007

Maliki: Blackwater Violence "Unacceptable"

Says Shootings By Private Security Firms Protected By U.S. Challenge Iraq's Sovereignty

  • Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki with U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon at the United Nations in New York, Saturday, Sept. 22, 2007. The U.N. secretary-general said the world body plans to open a new office in Baghdad to encourage cooperation between Iraq and its neighbors, but voiced strong concerns about the continuing security problems in the country. Photo

    Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki with U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon at the United Nations in New York, Saturday, Sept. 22, 2007. The U.N. secretary-general said the world body plans to open a new office in Baghdad to encourage cooperation between Iraq and its neighbors, but voiced strong concerns about the continuing security problems in the country.  (AP Photo/David Karp)

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(CBS/AP)  Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Sunday the shooting deaths of Iraqi civilians - allegedly at the hands of private Blackwater USA security guards - pose "a serious challenge to the sovereignty of Iraq" and cannot be accepted.

The Sept. 16 killing of at least 11 civilians near a square in central Baghdad has highlighted the practices of foreign security contractors whose aggressive protection of Western diplomats and other dignitaries has long angered Iraqis.

U.S.-Iraqi relations have been further strained by the U.S. detention of an Iranian on Thursday in northern Iraq who was accused by the U.S. military of smuggling weapons to Shiite militias for use against American troops.

Al-Maliki, in an interview with The Associated Press ahead of his appearance Monday at the U.N. General Assembly, condemned the detention and said the man had been invited to Iraq.

"The government of Iraq is an elected one and sovereign. When it gives a visa it is responsible for the visa," he said. "We consider the arrest ... of this individual who holds an Iraqi visa and a (valid) passport to be unacceptable."

Meanwhile, an Iraqi official conceded Sunday that Blackwater USA's exit would create a "security vacuum" in Baghdad and said the U.S. and Iraq were instead working on revamping regulations governing private security companies after a deadly shooting of civilians.

Following the Sept. 16 Nisoor Square shooting, the Interior Ministry banned Blackwater from operating in Iraq, but rolled back after the U.S. agreed to a joint investigation. The company resumed guarding a reduced number of U.S. convoys on Friday.

But officials said new rules have to be put in place to govern the behavior of the security companies.

"If we expel this company immediately there will be a security vacuum that will demand pulling some troops off the battlefield," Tahseen Sheikhly, a civilian spokesman for the seven-month-old offensive against militants in Baghdad and surrounding areas. "This will create a security imbalance in securing Baghdad."

The Iraqi Interior Ministry complained that U.S. authorities had ignored repeated complaints about past Blackwater behavior as the company was implicated in six other fatal shootings, including one on Feb. 7 outside Iraqi state television in Baghdad that killed three building guards.

"We tried several times to contact the U.S. government through administrative and diplomatic channels to complain about the repeated involvement by Blackwater guards in several incidents that led to the killing of many Iraqis, but there were no concrete results. Our complaints went nowhere," deputy Interior Minister Hussein Kamal said.

U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Mirembe Nantongo said the Americans asked the Iraqis to share any reports on Blackwater's behavior.

"We have no official documentation on file from our Iraqi partners requesting clarification of any incident, but we're open to sharing relevant findings from our past investigations," she said. "We are approaching this in the spirit of cooperation and we have a joint interest in coming to a productive conclusion."

The U.S. administration is scrambling to quell Iraqi anger over the Sept. 16 shooting, in which Blackwater guards protecting a State Department convoy allegedly opened fire on Iraqis. Blackwater says its contractors were responding to an armed attack. Iraqi officials and witnesses say the shooting was unprovoked, although they have offered conflicting details.

Blackwater is one of three private security firms employed by the State Department to protect its personnel in Iraq, and a decision to force it to pull out would create tremendous difficulties for the U.S. government.

But Kamal called its behavior "unacceptable and a humiliation to Iraq."

A joint U.S.-Iraqi commission is being formed to investigate the incident and examine the rules governing private security companies that have largely operated without oversight since the war began in March 2003.

Nantongo, the embassy spokeswoman, said the panel would have eight members on each side, including three from the U.S. military and five embassy officers, but the commission has yet to meet.

It is doubtful that foreign security contractors could be prosecuted under Iraqi law. A directive issued by U.S. occupation authorities in 2004 granted contractors, American troops and many other foreign officials immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law. Security contractors also are not subject to U.S. military law under which U.S. troopers face prosecution for killing or abusing Iraqis.

Iraqi officials have said in the wake of the Nisoor Square shooting that they will press for amendments to the 2004 directive.

"Iraqi criminal law should be activated on Iraqi soil against any kind of criminal activity," Sheikhly said.

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by socrates392 September 23, 2007 5:43 PM EDT
But wait, I thought the US was there to defend Iraq''s sovereignty?

Is that an imperialist agenda in your pocket Mr. Bush or you just happy to see me?
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by vastr-wcon September 23, 2007 5:46 PM EDT

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The DickNBush Gestapo, Blackwate, is now exposed. (Where has the MSM been on this for the past 4+ years? With their heads up their A**es again?) Seems there is no limit in DickNBush world to the number of people who are "above the law". Like DickNbush, these are a bunch of incompetent criminal thugs. The investigation of Blackwater needs to very broad and thorough - it will lead directly to the White House.

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by feelfree1 September 23, 2007 6:04 PM EDT

Re: "Says Shootings By Private Security Firms Protected By U.S. Challenge Iraq''s Sovereignty"

Funny comment.

Sorry, Maliki. You can''t "challenge" something that you never had.

The "governemnt" of Iraq is not representative of the population, and is neither legitimate nor sovereign.

The Iraq puppet-officials need Blackwater around, because without them, their life expectancy goes way down.
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by pastdue1 September 23, 2007 6:17 PM EDT
The U.S. administration is scrambling to quell Iraqi anger over the Sept. 16 shooting"

America, shouldn''t the US administration also be scrambling to quell American anger over the Sept.16 shooting? Or, don''t we have enough pride anymore to care what our administration pays for? And, does our congress really care anymore about how much we spend and to what lengths we will allow this administration to go to embarrass our nation. And, does our media really think they no longer have an obligation to inform the American people
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by sandycat2 September 23, 2007 6:27 PM EDT
All non-essential violence is unacceptable. But in Iraq it is hard to tell when violence is acceptable and according to whom with all the extreme killing of civilians going on. And I am sorry to say, it is very hard for me to beleive what Muslims say when they are talking about non-Muslims (non-believers) ever since I found out the Muslim religion says it is okay for Muslims to lie to and about non-Muslims. That was an eye-opener for me. I don''t want to say all Muslims are liars to Americans, but hey, first SHOW me the proof.
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by socrates392 September 23, 2007 6:33 PM EDT
first SHOW me the proof.

Posted by sandycat2 at 03:27 PM : Sep 23, 2007

What proof are you refering to? Do you want like a video tape of the shooting or something? Or maybe you just want to hear the testimony of those honest, Christian Blackwater mercenaries. I''m sure they''ll deny any wrong doing. And Christians never lie to other Christians, right?!
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by walt1944-2009 September 23, 2007 6:39 PM EDT
Once again, the Great Emperor Bush II has shown that no one opposes HIS will. In this case, if the Emperor wants his own private army on the streets of Bagdad, shooting at anyone they wish, then they WILL cruise the streets of Bagdad looking for victims, despite what the puppet regime in Bagdad wants. If the regime in Iraq continues to make unsettling "waves" concerning this and other matters, the Emperor plans on writing an imperial order taking direct charge of the Iraqi government and arresting anyone who doesn''t like it! This order would occur the next time the Emperor''s clone, Bagdad John McCain, visits Bagdad with another shopping list.

LONG LIVE THE "SECURITY" FORCES OF THE EMPEROR (and a short life to the gunslingers in it!)!!!

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!
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by sandycat2 September 23, 2007 6:39 PM EDT
Of course, Christians lie, but to my knowledge Christian or OTHER religions churches do not say it is all right to lie to people of other faiths. The Muslim faith says it is all right to do that kind of lying. Hense it is hard for me to beleive what Muslims say about non-Muslims.
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by crater7 September 23, 2007 6:50 PM EDT
MALIKI IS TALKING TOUGH, WHEN HE MEETS WITH BUSH HE WILL HAVE HIS HEAD BETWEEN HIS LEGS AND WEARING HIS FLIP-FLOPS. THE BULLY WILL HAVE HIS WAY WITH HIM.

THAT''S THE END OF THAT.

STAY THE COURSE..............
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by socrates392 September 23, 2007 6:52 PM EDT
Of course, Christians lie, but to my knowledge Christian or OTHER religions churches do not say it is all right to lie to people of other faiths. The Muslim faith says it is all right to do that kind of lying. Hense it is hard for me to beleive what Muslims say about non-Muslims.

Posted by sandycat2 at 03:39 PM : Sep 23, 2007

Have you ever personally known a Muslim? I''ve been to Turkey on several occassions and have a number of Muslim friends. They are just as honest as you or I. And it doesn''t matter whether they are speaking to Muslims, Christians or Jews.

Don''t trust Muslims if you want, but know that your reasoning is rather shaky.
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by rick_vt September 23, 2007 7:50 PM EDT
The final result will probably be the Blackwater guys involved or identified will be re-assigned in another country. Iraq will have banished them and life (or war?) will go on.
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by sgtrds September 23, 2007 7:55 PM EDT
Yeah, well, your country training Saudi''''s to come and kill 3000+ American civilains/firefighters with airplanes is unacceptable as well...maybe if you hadn''''t done this, we wouldn''''t be where we are today.

Posted by sbbm at 04:44 PM : Sep 23, 2007

What a complete and utter pile of bullsh*it! Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11! Get that through your thick skull! Nothing! Nada! Zip! Not a single thing! No connection at all!

Moron.
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by sgtrds September 23, 2007 8:01 PM EDT
Fascist right wing groups of psychos like Blackwater are a direct result of Bush and Cheney''s fetish for outsourcing. They, in the neocon vision of things, ARE the future military of the US. More and more functions that used to be taken care of within the ranks of the military, from food supplies to transportation to even security, are now being done by private companies at 10 times or more the cost to the American taxpayers. Costs that are profits for companies that bribe people like Cheney with fat paychecks and kickbacks. Welcome to the future, neocon style. Take a good look and it''ll make every real American want to puke.
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by sgtrds September 23, 2007 8:18 PM EDT
LOLOLOL...Oh yeah Michael Moore, er Sarge...it was an (insert whisper here) inside job...I keep forgetting that pathetic little fantasy - just like the blister has nothing to do with herpes...

Posted by sbbm at 05:11 PM : Sep 23, 2007


Um.....ok....you do realize that your post makes no sense whatsoever...don''t you?
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by rick_vt September 23, 2007 8:43 PM EDT
It is not in Blackwater''s interest to ever see an end to this war. It''s a hugely profitable business for them - that is one of the problems with hiring a mercinary force to do this type of work. They only have to answer to their company and have none of the honour or integrity that American solders pledge to uphold. I will hold off opinions on the illegal arms sale allegations until more information is revealed.
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by sgtrds September 23, 2007 8:44 PM EDT
Look, let me explain this clearly sop that even you understand. On 9-11 we were attacked by al-Qaeda and only al-Qaeda. We were not attacked by Iran or Iraq (neither of whom had anything at all to do with it) and it was not some sort of inside job by the US CIA. It was al-Qaeda. A terrorist organization that attacked us not because they hate our freedom or because they''re jealous of us or even because they want us to convert to Islam, but because we have our troops in Saudi Arabia and they consider that to be desecration of their holy land. That''s it. That''s the reason. They did it and that''s why. Got it?
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by September 23, 2007 8:53 PM EDT
Isn''t Eric Prince, the head of Blackwater supposed to be a "christian"?

I mean, we know he''s another right wing nut job without any morals, but that fake christian allows his murderous guns for hire free reign in slaughtering as many innocent Iraqis as they want.

Eric Prince is no better than a common criminal and deserves to be treated as such.

And as such, I hope one day this fake christian meets his maker at the end of a noose, just like Saddam Hussein.

Eric Prince is a piece of scum just like his Blackwater thugs and they all deserve to be treated as such.

GW Bush, after being proven wrong on the WMD''s and every other excuse possible, eventually claimed that the invasion of Iraq was to free Iraq from a brutal regime.

Who''s going to save Iraq from Bush''s brutal regime, where pieces of excrement like Eric Prince get to slaughter as many Iraqi men, women and children as they like with the full sanction of the American Government?
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by nothappyatall September 23, 2007 9:00 PM EDT
"We tried several times to contact the U.S. government through administrative and diplomatic channels to complain about the repeated involvement by Blackwater guards in several incidents that led to the killing of many Iraqis, but there were no concrete results. Our complaints went nowhere," deputy Interior Minister Hussein Kamal said."

Welcome to the club, with 70+ % of Americans against Bush and his policies *OUR* complaints over the last 7 years have gone nowhere too, and we pay this sorry azz of a moron''s salary.
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by lastdance2 September 23, 2007 9:17 PM EDT
Illegally smuggled weapons

The FBI - Cannot be Trusted to - Perform any Criminal Investigation.
Involving : Blackwater USA

The FBI - The US Justice Department has always Worked on the Behalf of -
The Political Objectives and The Financial Objectives of - The Republican (Nazi) Party

American Organizations that - Financially Support the Enemies of the United States
American Organizations that provide - War materials and Weapons - Intended to kill
American Military personnel involved in Combat - Has been going on for Decades

This practice could have never been Started or Initiated.
This practice could have never been carried out - for so many Decades without -
The Support - The Approval and The Assistance - Provided by - The FBI
If you think for one Moment - The FBI - Had no knowledge - of this Decades old -
ongoing Criminal and Treasonous Activity - " Your Nuts "

Write a Complaint to the - Senate Judiciary Committee
Ask for a formal Criminal Investigation against Blackwater USA - Conducted by :
The Criminal Investigative Division of the U.S. Treasury - The Internal Revenue Service

Since Federal Weapons- Federal Funds were misused - The Internal Revenue Service
is obligated to perform a - Formal Criminal Audit of every Blackwater USA Employee
Every Penny Accounted for - Where it came From - Where it went To ! !

There was a time - Treason - was a Criminal Act

Lastdance
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by emma915 September 23, 2007 9:22 PM EDT
Dear Mr. al-Maliki. Why don''t you just tell Mr. Bush to take his greedy little Blackwater guys and go home? And, while you''re at it, tell him to get his troops in uniform out of your country as well.
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by hungry1968 September 23, 2007 9:43 PM EDT
"however, Al-Qeada trained in Iraq and Iran to attack our country which makes them just as responsible for the attacks"
Posted by sbbm at 06:08 PM : Sep 23, 2007


This is just plain wrong. Saddam Hussein hated bin Laden AND al Qaeda. Anyone that could pose a threat to his rule, no matter how big or small, was immediately squashed. No terrorist organization was allowed in his country unless it was the one that he was paying to launch suicide attacks against Israel.
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by hungry1968 September 23, 2007 9:45 PM EDT
Posted by Emma915 at 06:22 PM : Sep 23, 2007


I couldn''t agree more. If you really have a problem with it, then please tell us to get the he11 out.

PLEASE - do America a favor. THROW US OUT!!!!!
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by greco99-2009 September 23, 2007 10:04 PM EDT
An excellent book: Blackwater: The Rise of the World''s Most Powerful Mercenary Army by Jeremy Scahill.

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by sgtrds September 23, 2007 10:06 PM EDT
This is just plain wrong. Saddam Hussein hated bin Laden AND al Qaeda. Anyone that could pose a threat to his rule, no matter how big or small, was immediately squashed. No terrorist organization was allowed in his country unless it was the one that he was paying to launch suicide attacks against Israel.

Posted by hungry1968 at 06:43 PM : Sep 23, 2007

Absolutely 100% correct. Still there''ll always be those who think that Saddam was somehow linked to al-Qaeda, even though they hated each other with a deadly passion. Given the chance Saddam would have gladly had bin Laden killed and bin Laden hated Saddam even more as a secularist.
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by mcvet September 23, 2007 10:20 PM EDT
OMG, the more I read you post the angrier I get - "HIS" troops?? Yah, obvioulsy not YOUR troops who are providing you with the spit on respect that you''''re showing just to have your say...but hey, you''''re an American (?) so you take it for granted.


Posted by sbbm at 06:46 PM : Sep 23, 2007
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Nope Swastika Breath those are Bush''s Troops and HIS war. The American People already went to the polls on this issue and they want the Troops out and Bush decided to become a Dictator. It''s your right to be a Nazi but at least be an honest one. Sieg Heil Bush!!
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by mcvet September 23, 2007 10:22 PM EDT
idiot.
Posted by sbbm at 06:43 PM : Sep 23, 2007
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How so? You Nazi''s always do this, I''d assume trying to make yourself look or feel superior but never follow up. I''d guess, because you are fascist and can''t see anyone''s view except your own, you lack the basic intelligence to explain your stupidity. Sieg Heil Bush. Come on you pathetic Swastika Hugger... Put on that Hood and Sheet and shout it out!! SIEG HEIL Grand Wizard!!
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by vastr-wcon September 23, 2007 10:23 PM EDT
The DickNBush Gestapo, Blackwater, is now exposed. (Where has the MSM been on this for the past 4+ years? With their heads up their A**es again?) Seems there is no limit in DickNBush world to the number of people who are "above the law". Like DickNbush, these are a bunch of incompetent criminal thugs. The investigation of Blackwater needs to very broad and thorough - it will lead directly to the White House.
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by sandycat2 September 23, 2007 10:24 PM EDT
Iraq can''t tell the US and Blackwater to go home. If they do, there would be more killing then there already is. Al Maliki knows Blackwater is needed in Iraq which is why Blackwater employees are back at work already. Sad but true.
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by seven-pesos September 23, 2007 10:43 PM EDT
blackwater security, based in north carolina.

just another bunch of redneck southerners on the loose in the middle east.

bush and his slave state supporters got this whole world all screwed up.

bush, gonzalez, condisleezeball, foley, delay, rove...

all southern, all christian, all republican, all snakes...

white trash, redneck bush supporting creeps...

oh well, that''s the south for you, folks!
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by gkc99 September 23, 2007 11:33 PM EDT
So Maliki doesn''t like Blackwater--so what, the puppet dances to the master''s strings, just like Bushit dances on the string for the billionaires and corporations who own and operate the USA these days.
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by seven-pesos September 24, 2007 12:28 AM EDT
the republican party loves the south...

southerners are so easy to fool.

a little flag waving here, a little bible thumping there.

those ignorant southerners fall right in line, boy!

rednecks and reborns...

bush''s kind of people.

war, hate, arrogance, christian creeps, republican snakes...

nothing good comes out of the south!
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by lastdance2 September 24, 2007 12:41 AM EDT
sbbm - federal employee

fishing - simply a matter of gathering information - profiling -

ignore - don''t converse - don''t respond - to anything from : sbbm

Lastdance
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by tbweb September 24, 2007 1:02 AM EDT
Iraq is not your normal War zone! The enemy doesn''t fight by the Geneva Convention or any convention at all, doesn''t fight by any rules. This enemy fights a dog-eat-dog War, wears explosives that can blow up U.S. personnel at any moment, drives vehicles full of explosives that can blow up any U.S. personnel at any moment, kills any and everything at random and fights among Iraqi civilians! This enemy killed those Iraqi civilians by shooting amongst them, using them for cover. Blackwater, the U.S. Military or any other Security Force is at a clear disadvantage trying to deal with this hostile, extremely violent and crazy War environment. Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki should take a 5 week vacation like his government did and clear his head and get a grip. In this case I side with Blackwater. How can Blackwater be expected to play by the rules when no one knows what the rules of engagement are, when there are no rules. In my view Blackwater errors on the side of caution and in that case collateral damage is to be expected. Fair is fair! Complaint denied!!
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by lastdance2 September 24, 2007 1:16 AM EDT
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by condumism September 24, 2007 2:07 AM EDT
6/5/07: Fed Chairman and Republicon Bernanke said he believes some of the forces that figured in the slow growth of the US economy in the 1st quarter of 2007 were due to weak federal defense spending that "seemed likely to be at least partially reversed in the near term."

Here we are folks, smack in the middle of the US military industrial complex economy that is now the number one wheel behind the US economy. Our Fascist, paranoid Republicons fear machine continues to throw money at the needless US Military.

The US National Labs are a perfect example of throwing money at needless causes. Los Alamos National Lab has a staff of about 9,000 people, most of whom have absolutley nothing to do with the defense of America. There are Ph.D''s all over the place creating useless models of hypothetical future events, mostly for salaries well above $100,000 per year. Los Alamos is now run by LANS, LLC, a private contractor that now skims $59 million per year from this epicenter of fraud, waste, and massive abuse of US tax $$$.

WAKE UP AMERICA, YOU''RE BEING ROBBED EVERYDAY BY THE CORPORATE US MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, WHO HAVE BOUGHT AND PAYED FOR EVERY RETHUGLICON in ELECTED OFFICE!
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by menofoz September 24, 2007 2:40 AM EDT
The US National Labs are a perfect example of throwing money at needless causes. Los Alamos National Lab has a staff of about 9,000 people, most of whom have absolutley nothing to do with the defense of America. There are Ph.D''''s all over the place creating useless models of hypothetical future events, mostly for salaries well above $100,000 per year. Los Alamos is now run by LANS, LLC, a private contractor that now skims $59 million per year from this epicenter of fraud, waste, and massive abuse of US tax $$$.



Posted by ConDumism at 11:07 PM : Sep 23, 2007

Gosh, don%u2019t you know Sir, how much Republicans hate government waste (rolling my eyes) and don%u2019t you know Sir, how much Right Wing Whack%u2019s hate hands out for the poor? Sir, I must say that sure is a mighty honest assessment you made about the where many of the GOP Bush base voters come from government lackeys 90% of them (Los Alamos National Lab has a staff of about 9,000 people, most of whom have absolutely nothing to do with the defense of America. There are PhD%u2019s all over the place creating useless models of hypothetical future events, mostly for salaries well above $100,000 per year.)
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by toldyouso21 September 24, 2007 2:51 AM EDT
Earth to Al Maliki: IRAQ IS NOT SOVEREIGN. If you were sovereign, you would not be occupied.

If you were sovereign, Bush, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others could not just "drop" in to check on you--they''s have to ask to go to Iraq and wait for permission.

If you were sovereign, your paychecks would not come from the United States of America

If you were sovereign, you could do what your citizens want (and kick the US out) and not what the US wants.

If you were sovereign, then when you wanted to grant immunity to the insurgents and others for killing Americans, what our Congress said or wanted would not have mattered

If Iraq were sovereign, then part of the agenda to reconcile Iraq would not be to give oil exploration and development rights to the US and others for the next 30 years

If Iraq were sovereign, you would not ahve foreign mercenaries with immunity running around your country without permission.

Iraq is NOT sovereign and Al Maliki is only a puppet. We all know this--even Iraqi citizens know this. If they were sovereign, they would not be under occupation. There can be no democracy under occupation.

But there can be and often is a sham government put in place by conquerors to try to legitimize invasions.
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by jonny_chaos September 24, 2007 2:54 AM EDT
i think seven-pesos had his wife stolen by a southerner.

Dude, New Mexico? shut up. loser.

Oh, yea, by the way, i''m from the west coast, in the south, close enough to hell to smell the sulpher, but still just another place and another state of mind. ever consider spewing lame pasted copy over and over just makes you seem like an angry little loser. you and lars need to look into megaDik. might make you more secure around rednecks.
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by jonny_chaos September 24, 2007 3:10 AM EDT
being profiled is a chance you take when you post on a public forum. dont want to own it, dont say it.

sure, i profiled seven-pesos. repetitive, with nothing to say.
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by jonny_chaos September 24, 2007 3:33 AM EDT
Iraq is not your normal War zone! The enemy doesn''''t fight by the Geneva Convention or any convention at all, doesn''''t fight by any rules.
Posted by tbweb

actually, that makes it a totally normal war zone. the convention they fight under is, win, by any means neccessary. any country occupied will fight as long as possible. just common sense. can you really blame them for being irritated were running around their country?

blackwater operate in the typical ignorant arrogant method of those above the law. if iraq (lol) had occupied my country, i''d be taking pot shots at their soldiers and contractors as well. its just the way its done.

jesus and company were constantly carping about rome. washington and company were carping about england, french were irritated with the nazis, and so it goes.
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by jonny_chaos September 24, 2007 3:36 AM EDT
it may be stereotyping actually. liberal - conservative, nothing but lables to make it easy to identify and unneccessary to consider the point being made. but just spewing hate and garbage dosent further any agenda or help bring the country back together. were all americans so deal with it. we think differently and thats what makes it a great place.
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by searingtruth September 24, 2007 4:02 AM EDT
"It is the entire circumstance that concerns me, not the small window which peers in upon it."
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That of magnanimous oppressor and murderer in substitute of heartless oppression and murder?"
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by sgtrds September 24, 2007 4:34 AM EDT
ignore - don''''t converse - don''''t respond - to anything from : sbbm

Posted by lastdance2 at 09:41 PM : Sep 23, 2007

I agree. I made the mistake of trying to give sbbm the benefit of the doubt and giving an honest response to a question. Now however it''s obvious that sbbm is really didntinhale or one of its many incarnations in this blog and is only looking to spout the RNC line. Ignore it. It''s not a serious poster and it doesn''t deserve response.
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by seven-pesos September 24, 2007 4:37 AM EDT
the republican party loves the south...

southerners are so easy to fool.

a little flag waving here, a little bible thumping there.

those ignorant southerners fall right in line, boy!

rednecks and reborns...

bush''s kind of people.

war, hate, arrogance, christian creeps, republican snakes...

nothing good comes out of the south!
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by September 24, 2007 9:46 AM EDT
sbbm wrote:

"Yeah, well, your country training Saudi''''s to come and kill 3000+ American civilains/firefighters with airplanes is unacceptable as well...maybe if you hadn''''t done this, we wouldn''''t be where we are today."

Are you a complete and utter fu_khead? What proof do you have that Iraq trained the 9/11 hijackers?

None - because it didn''t happen, despite your pathetic little fantasies.

You right wing nazis are complete and utter tools of neo-con lies.

Even your hero GW Bush has had to admit that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

If you want to nail someone for 9/11, nail the Saudis like we should have done after 9/11 - well, except of course GW Bush and his insane and morally corrupt family are in bed with the Saudis.

A vote for a Republican is a vote for the Saudis.

And thanks to GW Bush, his family and the Carlyle group - the Saudis already control America.

You Republicans have sold America to them.
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by September 24, 2007 9:52 AM EDT
GW Bush had to scramble for another excuse for his illegal invasion of Iraq when the WMD''s didn''t turn up.

His excuse was that Iraq needed to be saved from Saddam Hussein.

But thanks to GW Bush and his pathetic fake christian Republican supporters, our tax dollars are being spent so that morally bankrupt mercenaries like Blackwater can kill innocent Iraqi men, women and children.

Bush claimed to have saved Iraq from Saddam - but who is going to save Iraq from Bush?
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