Iraq, Afghan Wars Price Tag Jumps To $195B

White House To Cite Troop Buildup, New Gear For Budget Increase, Making F '08 Costliest Yet

(CBS/AP)  Spending to cover the costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan next year will total nearly $200 billion, according to a budget request the White House will take to Congress next week, making 2008 the most expensive year of those conflicts to date.

The news was first reported by the Los Angeles Times, which cited unnamed Pentagon officials.

The Bush administration has earlier this year said it would need $147.5 billion for fiscal 2008, but the estimates have been raised by another $47 billion. This request is in addition to the Pentagon's nearly half-trillion annual budget, which omits war spending but covers routine costs, including training, payrolls and weapons procurement.

To blame: the massive troop buildup and production of new equipment, including mine-resistant trucks.

The $195 billion price tag would mark an increase of about 12 percent from $173 billion in Fiscal 2007.

Winslow Wheeler, a senior fellow at the Center for Defense Information and a former Republican congressional budget aide, told the Los Angeles Times that the Iraq war (including associated costs such as embassy expenses in Baghdad and CIA operations) and currently costs taxpayers $12 billion a month, and the costs will rise, even as incremental drawdowns in troop levels take place over the coming year.

"Everybody predicts declines, but they haven't occurred," Wheeler told the Times. "It all depends on what happens in Iraq, but thus far it has continued to get bloodier and more expensive."

Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates and other officials are expected to present their request to the Senate on Wednesday.

In 2004, the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan together cost $94 billion. Those costs rose to $108 billion in 2005, and $122 billion in 2006.

The Congressional Budget Office this week released estimates on the long-term costs of deploying troops in Iraq, and said that, if the U.S. were to maintain a long-term presence (as President Bush suggested in his address to the nation last week), even a minimal force of 55,000 troops in a peacekeeping role would cost $25 billion a year.

The report says keeping the troops protected at established military bases and out of combat would lower the cost to about $10 billion dollars a year, with additional costs of $8 billion for the construction of bases or additional equipment.

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, D-N.D., asked for the study after President Bush likened America's future in Iraq to the peacekeeping role U.S. troops play in South Korea, where they have been stationed for some five decades. Mr. Bush announced his intention to keep a force of between 100,000 to 130,000 troops on the ground in Iraq through the end of his term, and was quoted in a new book, "Dead Certain," as saying he hoped his eventual successor would be "comfortable about sustaining a presence" in the war-torn country.

A four-decade-long presence in Iraq, mimicking our presence in South Korea, would top $1 trillion dollars, based on the CBO's estimates.

[hsinco-2009]

I hope this request is met with the appropriate level of laughter!

[mcvet]

Just what is the purpose of Iraq TODAY? It changes from week to week and it''s hard for me to keep up. When the Incompetent Puppet of Big Oil took us there is was about Weapons... you all remember the statement when our FORMER friends wanted to give the UN Inspectors more time... They had those weapons and Bush had the "Smoking Gun" to prove it. There was no Smoking Gun, never was. All this is or ever was about was giving away our hard earned Tax Dollars to Corporate Greed the likes of which this nation has never seen. When you look around and our Roads and Bridges are falling down and we can''t provide health care to our OWN citizens these Nazi''s say they want to "Give" health care to the people of another nation.. they want to fix the bridges and roads of ANOTHER nation... FOR WHAT?? Can anyone tell me FOR WHAT???? Sieg Heil Bush!!

[crater7]

WOW!

STAYING THE COURSE JUST A BIT MORE COSTLY.

200 BILLION, AND THIS PRESIDENT HAS THREATENED SOME MONEY STRAPED HARD WORKING FAMILIES WITH TAKING AWAY THEIR CHILDRENS HEALTH INSURANCE.

STAY THE COURSE.................

[brianbwb-2009]

To blame: the massive troop buildup and production of new equipment, including mine-resistant trucks.

Wrong, check an itemized accounting, all prices are marked up thousands of percent, the money going to the pockets of war profiteers.

To blame, Bush, his cabinet, and the traitors who support his corruption.

[kevboom]

In other news, children denied health care, roads and bridges crumbling, schools can''t afford to buy paper.... Freedom may not be free, but it''s a heck of a lot cheaper than the Pentagon would have us believe. Not that this war has anything to do with fighting for American or Iraqi freedom. Go to rollingstone.com and search for "the great iraq swindle" or to washingtonpost.com and search for "federal no-bid contracts." That my friend is what this bull s**t is all about.

[pwrslm]

We know Saddam had key scientists take home documentation and equipment to hide.

When know that we found over 500 artillery shells with chemicals shortly before and after the invasion.

We know Saddam was developing a missle in violation of its UN cease fire agreement, which was designed much like a N Korean missle that is designed to carry a Nuke, which we were destroying.

We know we found modern Soviet Jets buried in the sand in Iraq''s desert that was undeclaired by Iraq prior to the Invasion.

We know that Saddams regime attempted/did destroy many, many documents and official records of the WMD programs shortly before the invasion.

We know what precursors, and what capability Saddam had prior to 91, and based on claims that all of that was somehow destroyed was discredited in 95 by Saddams son in law. Beyond that, there has been no evidence, official records nor forensic evidence, that all that was actually destroyed.

We know that Plutonium was found in Iraq, similar to trace amounts found in Iraq...

No, you cant say the cost we have paid is more than the cost we could/would have paid later down the road for deposing Saddams regime.

Its a lie.

[radiob-2009]

The cost that cannot be measured or calculated, the "cost" of our fallen and injured soldiers, the cost of lost innocent lives in Iraq for a war of choice not of necessity. The cost of freedom eroded by the attacks on the constitution by this adminstration and congress previous and present.

[pwrslm]

In other news, children denied health care, roads and bridges crumbling, schools can''''t afford to buy paper.... Freedom may not be free, but it''''s a heck of a lot cheaper than the Pentagon would have us believe. Not that this war has anything to do with fighting for American or Iraqi freedom. Go to rollingstone.com and search for "the great iraq swindle" or to washingtonpost.com and search for "federal no-bid contracts." That my friend is what this bull s**t is all about.
Posted by kevboom at 09:45 AM : Sep 23, 2007

Your pulling your own chain. You forget who dictates the budget, right? You cant blame Bush on what the GAO is responsible for. Do you actually have any clue how government accountability operates?

Bush conspiracy theorys, Bush is to blame for every bad thing in the world, you gotta be a joking moron to push that. Our government burocracy has been fk''d up for decades. Its not Bush''s fault. The responsibility lied directly on the shoulders of the voters for being fooled by idiots like Pelosi and Reid, Kennedy, and yes, even the Repulicans hold equal responsibility for the failures.

But Bush? Only in a bigots eyes.

[pwrslm]

The cost that cannot be measured or calculated, the "cost" of our fallen and injured soldiers, the cost of lost innocent lives in Iraq for a war of choice not of necessity. The cost of freedom eroded by the attacks on the constitution by this adminstration and congress previous and present.

Posted by radiob

We lost a lot more freedoms guaranteed by the constitution in WWII than we have from Iraq.

We are not really out so much, people like to inflate the importance of things far more than they should. Wiretaps on foreign nationals in time of war should never be an issue. Its a must, ecspecially when the enemy uses our own networks to plan his attacks.

Its not illegal, its common sense.

So few people have it.

[cassandragop]

Our troops under military command--$
Private armies--$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[jn122736]

Now is the time for congress to prove to the whole world just how sincere (or not) the Bush administration is about the Iraq fiasco by reversing all of the tax cuts since 2000 and adding new taxes sufficient to cover the increasing costs.

Stop borrowing/bankrupting the country. If a majority of people feels we should continue this farce of a war then initiate the draft. Take some of the burden off the troops that are being, literally, worked to death.

When everybody has to immediately start feeling the costs of this Fiasco they will carry this so-called %u201Creligious right%u201D administration out on a rail.

Congress won%u2019t do it because too many (members of both parties) have sold their offices to the highest bidder to get elected/re-elected.

The saddest part of all is that we (the People) are letting them lead us around by the lip with their divide and control policy.

We are no longer Americans, we are either Democrat or Republican, each considered by the other to be traitors or worse.

As long as they can keep us fighting each other they don%u2019t need to worry about ANY of us.

I have watched this country deteriorate over the past three decades but I have never given up hope.
That hope is fading fast, however, as I watch once-proud Americans fighting amongst themselves, like a pack of wolves, over the few crumbs that are left for them

[barbaraf4]

"It''''s no wonder bush was attacking the American CHILDREN yesterday. American Children are Bush''''s enemy." Posted by george2221 at 09:47 AM : Sep 23, 2007

Bush needs to be keeping the children of America healthy. These are the cannon fodder of the future generations of the Iraqi War.

[crater7]

IT''S A LIE;

ANY COUNTRY UNDER ATTACK FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY WILL TAKE AND HIDE, OR DESTROY ANY INFORMATION, THAT THEY CONSIDER OF AID OR INTEREST TO THE INVADING COUNTRY.

ANY COUNTRY THAT HAVE NO WAY OF PROTECTING THEIR MILITARY ASSETS, WILL BURY THEM IN THE SAND, OR ANY OTHER METHOD OF PROTECTION TO KEEP THE INVADING COUNTRY FROM DESTROYING THEM.

YOU CAN FINE TRACE AMOUNTS OF RADIATION IN MOST ANY COUNTRY IF THEY HAVE NUKES OR NOT.

ARTILLERY SHELLS, OF COURSE THEY HAD THEM, WE NEW THAT FOR OVER 10 YEARS.

THE MISSILE WITH NUKE CAPABILITIES, WE WERE DESTROYING, IS ANOTHER REASON FOR NOT INVADING IRAQ, AS ALL THE ABOVE MENTIONED, WERE TOTALLY UNDER CONTROLL AND SURRVALIENCE BY OUR MILITARY AND THE UNITED NATIONS FOR OVER TEN YEARS.

SO WHAT WAS THE REASON, WHY BUSH DECIDED IT WAS NECESSARY TO INVADE IRAQ?

STAY THE COURSE..............

[jn122736]

pwrslm
~~~~~~~~~

Regurgitating Lies does not make them believable.

[pastdue1]

The American people need veto power.
How about cutting out the funds for private security companies. That would not only save money, but might even save some face. Of course, like Maliki, we don''t want Blackwater USA on American soil either. We could start redeployment right now by pulling out that company and improve relations with the Iraq people.

[pwrslm]

Regurgitating Lies does not make them believable.
Posted by jn122736

Not wanting to believe the truth doesnt make it a lie either.

Ask the Japanese Americans how many of thier civic rights they lost in WW2.

You strike me as just another clueless cliche groupie.

[jerr11]

$195 billion.

How much of that is going to the warmongers/profiteers?

War is great for business!

[pwrslm]

IT''''S A LIE;

Posted by crater7

You can talk shiite all you want. Saddam agreed to the terms of the cease fire agreement, which included total disclosure. Calling it a lie comes from clueless ingrate bigots, more popularly known as Bushophobics.

[myidoncbs]

pwrslm said, "We lost a lot more freedoms guaranteed by the constitution in WWII than we have from Iraq."

WRONG!

Each and every person in the world is now subject to being picked up in the night by a squad of goons, and whisked away to a foreign torture camp, never to be heard from again-- all based on the whims of the Chimp in Charge and his evil puppet master.

Each and every CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA can be declared an "enemy combatant", based on the whim of the Chimp in Charge, his evil puppet-master, or their designates, and be sent off to god only knows where, where they will be tortured mercilessly for the remainder of their life. Such AMERICAN CITIZENS do not have the right to face their accuser, the right to know what they have been accused of, the right to a lawyer, the right to a fair trial. They do not have any rights at all.

We have lost the most fundamental right of all, the right that is the dividing line between civilization and the Dark Ages, the right of Habeus Corpus.

And today, the "war" that supplies the "justification" for returning to the Dark Ages is the "war on terror", not the "war in Iraq". The "war on terror", being a war waged against an abstract principle, rather than against a specific nation, will continue FOREVER if the republicans have anything to say about it. That means: Eternal war. Eternal Hell on earth, courtesy of Gee Whiz Bush and his supporters.

[whatithink-2009]

And, oil prices have skyrocketed ever since this war in Iraq began!!!

I thought you Bushbots said this would be a self-funded war?

Where is the oil money going???

[infidel_us]

No bodies to report so do the next best thing......rag on how much it costs. Why don''t you report on how the NYT cut MoveOver.org a ''lib to lib'' rate on advertising?

[whatithink-2009]

Read about the Soviet Union and its War in Afghanistan. Please read. What is happened to the Soviet Union there is happening to us now.

[pastdue1]

Our government burocracy has been fk''''d up for decades. Its not Bush''''s fault. Posted by pwrslm at 09:53 AM : Sep 23, 2007
For the sake of argument, even if it were not bush''s fault (although he has made it considerably worse), it was his responsibility upon taking the presidential oath, to correct any wrong doing in the executive realm, and the bureaucracy became his responsibility, not his personal treasure trove.

[drummer94]

"....cited unnamed Pentagon officials." Dontcha just hate that? Like no sir, I want to keep my cushy job, I didn''t say that. The way loony-toon fires or has fired anyone that isn''t in goose-step with him, it''s easy to see why. The cost for health care for OUR KIDS is estimated at 35-50 billion. Yeh, we know where shrub''s loyaltys are.

[glossypan]

I know that some of you may think I am a heartless cretin when I emphasize the monetary cost of the Iraq occupation rather than human misery that it has caused. There is a reason I do. The people who care about the morality of the war, and who do not think an American Manifest Destiny is guiding us, are on our side. The people who can see how illogical it is to oppress a nation to bring it freedom are on our side. There are many people who will come over to our side when they realize a spiraling debt and declining dollar may mean that there will be no big screen TV this football season or that their children may have to forgo college and pay off the huge deficit with the money they earn in their service sector jobs. "It''s the economy, stupid" --- words of an ex president who gave us eight years of peace and prosperity and left us with money in the US Treasury, spoken to himself.

[lars008-2009]

the war is legal, demonic-rat hero al bore says so%u2026

the resumption of hostilities was only a matter of time since iraq broke the ceasefire agreement.....

blame saddam for iraq%u2026%u2026. Even clintoon and the dems wanted the resumption of hostilities back in 1998

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq''''s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

Moreover, no international law can prevent the United States from taking actions to protect its vital interests, when it is manifestly clear that there is a choice to be made between law and survival. I believe, however, that such a choice is not presented in the case of Iraq. Indeed, should we decide to proceed, that action can be justified within the framework of international law rather than outside it. In fact, though a new UN resolution may be helpful in building international consensus, the existing resolutions from 1991 are sufficient from a legal standpoint. - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html

[johnshaft4]

Remember how this thing was only going to cost $50 Billion and would be reimbursed by oil revenue? Everything that Christian, Republican Bush/Chney have touched has turned out to be a outstanding ''success''.

[whatithink-2009]

GOP supporters called themselves the party of responsibility. It''s clear that they want everyone else to take responsibility but their own leaders.

Period.

[jn122736]

Regurgitating Lies does not make them believable.
Posted by jn122736

Not wanting to believe the truth doesnt make it a lie either.

Ask the Japanese Americans how many of thier civic rights they lost in WW2.

You strike me as just another clueless cliche groupie.

Posted by pwrslm at 10:19 AM : Sep 23, 2007
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

pwrslm,

How I %u201Cstrike you%u201D has an importance of 1 in 300 million (Americans).

Our comments here are open to the rest of Americans, indeed the entire world, to judge, including readers who, themselves, never post comments.

I%u2019m comfortable with that.

[lars008-2009]

VOTE FOR JEFFERSON,,, VOTE AGAINST FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM,,, VOTE GOP,,,

dnc are like john adams and want to give the jihadist their lunch money hoping they will leave us alone,,,

gop are like thomas jefferson and want to spend their lunch money on weapons and go kick the jihadists in their arses,,,

What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad,,,

Thomas Jefferson knew about fascist nazi islam,,, he killed plenty of them,,,

In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli''s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/jeff_quran.htm
muslim justifies slavery and piracy%u2026
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?6bdec278-6a71-4436-bc4d-29d1c54b0ad7
MUSLIM PIRATES STRIKE AGAIN
http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2005/06/muslim-pirates-strike-again.html

[phil-in-fin]

Oh, I see ... that it is wrong for everyone to pay into a universal health plan, so that every American, no matter who he or she is, has access to good medical care.

... but it is acceptable to pay for $147.5 billion in 2008 to fund a war in Iraq and Afghanistan, wars that have no Allies, exit plan, nor end ...

"A four-decade-long presence in Iraq, mimicking our presence in South Korea, would top $1 trillion dollars, based on the CBO''s estimates."

I mean, money grows on trees, right?

[jerr11]

Guve the President what he wants!

The American treasury is his personal bank, and the citizens his private army, to do as he pleases.

That''s why he''s the decider!

[radiob-2009]

GOP family values = Goldman Sachs, Merril Lynch, Marriot International

Democratic family values = DLA Piper, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs


Notice the American people are not in the top ten, we finish some where around last like a 9th cousin.

[roger_inkart]

Could bin Laden have ever dreamed the attacks would lead to such a place as we are at today? Bush has played RIGHT into his hands.

The US suffers and weakens due to the morons and villians in the White House.

[lars008-2009]

Posted by phil-in-Fin at 10:48 AM : Sep 23, 2007

it also pays for illegal immigrants,,, including fascist nazi terrorislamists,,,

[glossypan]

William J Clinton - 8 years of peace and prosperity.
George W Bush - 8 years of hatred and greed.

William J Clinton - Fiscal responsibility.
George W Bush - Massive federal debt and fraud.

[shoebox119]

Let''s see, Blackwater is not accountable to the U.S. military and they are immune from Iraqi law. Hmmm... unchecked power like that must make Junior and Cheney furiously jealous!

[greco99-2009]

Overspending on Iraq and the resulting explosion in the U.S. debt are the real reasons the dollar is falling.

Bush has raised the Debt ceiling 5 times in office! The latest cap will be reached in Oct 1.

Worse than Iraq for Bush is that he has destroyed the dollar and left a massive bill for the next generation.

Domestic services have been gutted by Bush.

Maybe he would have cared about Katrina if New Orleans was an oil rich kingdom in the middle east...

[jerr11]

Could bin Laden have ever dreamed the attacks would lead to such a place as we are at today? Bush has played RIGHT into his hands.

Posted by roger_inkart at 10:50 AM : Sep 23, 2007


There''s an amazing confluence between Bush and Bin Laden.

Both are very wealthy, both acquired their money from oil, both were born to rich families, and both have killed thousands of Americans.

Bin Laden sent his assasins here to slaughter Americans, Bush sent Americans to Iraq to be slaughtered by their assasins.

Bin Laden/Bush, two brilliant strategists!

[lars008-2009]

Posted by glossypan at 10:53 AM : Sep 23, 2007

hahaha you call this peace,,, what a fool,,,

talk is no substitute for action,,,

klintoon just gave us the same old tired speech and did nothing else,,,

"We will do whatever it takes, for as long as it takes, to find those who killed our sailors and hold them accountable." --President Clinton, October 14, 2000,,,

After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

Iraqi Complicity in the World Trade Center Bombing and Beyond
http://www.meib.org/articles/0106_ir1.htm

After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9511/saudi_blast/pm/

[crater7]

pwrslm; Saddam agreed to the terms of a cease fire agreement;

FYI, MY REFERENCE TO IT''S A LIE WAS IN MY RESPONCE TO A PREVIOUS POST.

SADDAM DID SIGNED A CEASE FIRE AGREEMENT, AND BROKE IT FOR TEN YEARS, BUT I FAIL TO SEE THE REASON FOR INVADING IRAQ. NOTHING HAD CHANGED FOR OVER TEN YEARS SAME OLD SAME OLD. EVERY TIME SADDAM''S MILITARY (SCUDS) LOCKED ON OUR SURVIELANCE AIRCRAFT, WE TOOK THEM OUT. THEY COULD NOT EVEN LAUNCH AN AIR PLANE WITHOUT US KNOWING IT.

SO WHY WAS IT NECESSARY TO INVADE IRAQ AND FOR ALMOST 4,000 AMERICAN TROOPS THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED IN IRAQ?

STAY THE COURSE............

[shoebox119]

William J Clinton - 8 years of peace and prosperity.
George W Bush - 8 years of hatred and greed.

William J Clinton - Fiscal responsibility.
George W Bush - Massive federal debt and fraud.

William J Clinton - IQ = 182
George W Bush - IQ = 91 (Daddy Bush''s IQ = 98)

Does anyone see a correlation here?

[lars008-2009]

Posted by glossypan at 10:53 AM : Sep 23, 2007

hahaha you call this peace,,, what a fool,,,

talk is no substitute for action,,,

klintoon just gave us the same old tired speech and did nothing else,,,

"We will do whatever it takes, for as long as it takes, to find those who killed our sailors and hold them accountable." --President Clinton, October 14, 2000,,,

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9606/25/saudi.explosion/

After the 1998 bombing of U.S . embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
http://usinfo.state.gov/is/international_security/terrorism/embassy_bombings.html
http://usinfo.state.gov/is/Archive_Index/International_Media_Reaction_Special_Report_August_14_1998.html

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
http://usinfo.state.gov/is/international_security/terrorism/uss_cole.html

[ppas2004]

Let''s get our priorities straight let''s pay for health insurance for children before we spend another penny on IRAQ. (see AP article below) And by the way, is it possible for the US to get a share of the IRAQ oil revenues. At $83 dollars a barrel surely IRAQ can begin paying us back.
(AP) The Bush administration said that senior advisers would recommend the president veto Senate legislation that would substantially increase funds for children''s health insurance. ...
Members of the Senate Finance Committee brokered a bipartisan agreement Friday that would add $35 billion to the program over the next five years. The Bush administration had instead recommend $5 billion.

[ppas2004]

Let''s get our priorities straight let''s pay for health insurance for children before we spend another penny on IRAQ. (see AP article below) And by the way, is it possible for the US to get a share of the IRAQ oil revenues. At $83 dollars a barrel surely IRAQ can begin paying us back.
(AP) The Bush administration said that senior advisers would recommend the president veto Senate legislation that would substantially increase funds for children''s health insurance. ...
Members of the Senate Finance Committee brokered a bipartisan agreement Friday that would add $35 billion to the program over the next five years. The Bush administration had instead recommend $5 billion.

[johnshaft4]

As the nut job, Christian clowns voted Bush/Cheney in twice, pass the plate at their churches to pay for their Christian Crusade. (Remember Bush is quoted as saying, "God told me to smite Saddam Hussein, so I smote him.) Perhaps, Bush could lead a televised prayer imploring General Jesus to come riding in on his white stallion and slay all of them evil doer Muslims. (Maybe General Jesus does not care about his Christian Soldiers.)

[lars008-2009]

Posted by shoebox119 at 10:59 AM : Sep 23, 2007

the fiscal responsibility was the gop contract with america nancy,,,

IQ test
http://hem.bredband.net/b153434/Q&A/Q&A_2.htm

[shoebox119]

William J Clinton - IQ = 182
George W Bush - IQ = 91

Bush''s low ratings are due to his apparent difficulty to command the English language in public statements, his limited use of vocabulary (6,500 words for Bush versus an average of 11,000 words for other presidents).

After all, how many different ways are there to say, "stay the course?"

[glossypan]

William Jefferson Clinton - limited in power, as the Constitution demanded.

George Walker Bush Junior - created an Imperial presidency, seizing power from Congress and the states, in direct violation of the US Constitution.

[mh4cbs1]

$200 BILLION in one YEAR!!

And our EVIL IDIOT President won''t spend $7 Billion a year on health care for kids of lower income families??

END the NEOCON NIGHTMARE NOW

IMPEACH BUSH & CHENEY and throw them in JAIL
Lying us into this Disaster makes them War Criminals, since Saddam was not a threat and THEY KNEW IT.

Had enough of this self-proclaimed War President??

We need a PEACE President