LINCOLN, Neb., Sept. 21, 2007
"God" Responds To Lawsuit: No Jurisdiction
Nebraska State Senator Had Filed Suit Seeking Injunction Against Threats; Response Appears
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One of two court filings from "God" came Wednesday under otherworldly circumstances, according to John Friend, clerk of the Douglas County District Court in Omaha.
"This one miraculously appeared on the counter. It just all of a sudden was here - poof!" Friend said.
State Sen. Ernie Chambers of Omaha, a Democrat, sued God last week, seeking a permanent injunction against the Almighty for making terroristic threats, inspiring fear and causing "widespread death, destruction and terrorization of millions upon millions of the Earth's inhabitants."
Chambers, a self-proclaimed agnostic who often criticizes Christians, said his filing was triggered by a federal lawsuit he considers frivolous. He said he's trying to makes the point that anybody can sue anybody.
Not so, says "God." His response argues that the defendant is immune from some earthly laws and the court lacks jurisdiction.
It adds that blaming God for human oppression and suffering misses an important point.
"I created man and woman with free will and next to the promise of immortal life, free will is My greatest gift to you," according to the response, as read by Friend.
There was no contact information on the filing, although St. Michael the Archangel is listed as a witness, Friend said.
A second response from "God" disputing Chambers' allegations lists a phone number for a Corpus Christi law office. A message left for that office was not immediately returned Thursday.
Attempts to reach Chambers by phone and at his Capitol office Thursday were unsuccessful.
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See all 174 Comments2) Triple Kudos to whoever responded - be it "God" or someone on behalf of "God."
We have more than enough of both. So this is a HUGE waste of time.
Himself. anthromorphic concepts of God. in the image
of Himself did he make mankind. in the image
of mankind did man make God. and so forth. the
''burning bush'' still talks to moses(symbol of israel).
God as prime mover, is responsible for the behavior
of all His creatures, by the law of special agency,
business law. God aims to make a prophet. what
does it profit a man to gain the whole world but
lose his own soul. as millions will die today from
some physical reason, they wonder? why was i ever
born? from nowhere, going nowhere, for no reason?
or was there a mighty Purpose underlying it all?
another meaningless today for many. eat, sleep
and defecate. just bodies with bodily needs.
progress a grim joke. and the cost of living?
going beyond the reach of the many. malthusian
economics. what a tragedy. as we all go eventually
to the ''gallows'' in allusion, some laugh, some cry.
hang down your head tom dooley, hang down your
head and cry, hang down your head tom dooley, poor
boy you''re bound to die. aren''t we all, tom dooley?
It%u2019s a shame that the world sees us reading a letter from a god from within our hallowed court system. Had this happened in an Arabic nation, American bible thumpers would tisk and nod their collective heads at the sight%u2026.
Acts 4:12 - "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Talking of Jesus
Nice god.....nice nice god. Would ths god be alive today, we would send him or her to the court system for mass murder, no?
Posted by mudrose at 08:50 AM : Sep 21, 2007
We? Spoken out of the side of your mouth like a true religious hypocrite, Mudrose.
Mat 7:5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother''s eye.
Signed, a "Dumocrat"
(just one of the names you call those with whom you disagree.)
Boy, sounds like God doesn''t want to take responsibility.
Maybe Ernie needs to specify the God above this one - kinda like a "Supreme God"?
Also, is God an American citizen?
As fellow Democrat and Atheist I hate to disagree with the good Senator, but the "person" he is referring to is not God, but rather anyone of the legions of idiots that follow this myth once they get into power. Like Bush for instance. There is no god, just mentally ill people who murder in the name of the myth.
And I am glad u brought up the commandments. Here''s a commandment for you, broken by your god, yet in your book of truth. Remember, jealousy is not good for the soul:
So now the LORD says: "Be patient; the time is coming soon when I will stand up and accuse these evil nations. For it is my decision to gather together the kingdoms of the earth and pour out my fiercest anger and fury on them. All the earth will be devoured by the fire of my jealousy."
How can man incorporate a God into his life if that God is unapproachable, unattainable, out of touch, and divorced from those He created?
I want God close to me, I need Him close as times get darker and darker. I have loved Him only to get tested and trials time and again until I am sick of the whole business. Yet, take Him to trial and He says No Jurisdiction.
He has all the excuses on His side, free will and Satan and no jurisdiction. I won''t get to make excuses when it is time for me to stand and be judged.
God says all will be revealed, but He plans to make His revelations when it is too late for man to learn from it and correct his mistakes. It is from lack of knowledge NOW that man stumbles so, and works so hard to find his own answers.
I would trade a little free will for a bit more hands-on by God. I mean, what crime is there to having God around more and having man a bit less afraid and running around like crazy trying to find meaning, when meaning is supposed to be just upstairs.
Do you think God reads these posts?
If he does he should really think about getting back to work.
Posted by AaaBee
God is always around. We are made in his image. You have merely to look within to find Him. He works through us and through our free will we do what He asks of us. Very simple. It all comes from within.
You say "God only gave ten laws in the book of Deuteronomy." Perhaps if you actually knew anything about the bible you apparently so value you would know that God gave 613 commandments and not just 10.
I always find it amusing that the bible thumpers rarely have the foggiest notion of what that bible actually says.
But then, as it is all but axiomatic that most Christians, outside of the charlatans and hucksters who exploit them (and who are often quite clever) are simpletons, I shouldn''t be surprised.
giving in marriage. a constant orgy on earth.
God wished he had never made Existence. He thought
to Himself, what in the heck did i do that for.
Its brought nothing but heartache to me. So he
caused a flood to come upon the whole thing, except
for noah and his kindred. the anonymous, unknown
God posits a riddle. what is the origin of space
itself? nothing greater than yourself? but you
are so marvelous you are also very humble? so
purrfect in every way? you are so proud of your
humility?
The good senator''s problem is that he didn''t provide proper service on the defendant''s representatives.
The good senator''s problem is that he didn''t provide proper service on the defendant''s representatives.
Posted by bryan3141 at 10:07 AM : Sep 21, 2007
That''s true. He should have had all churches served with the goal of ending their tax-exempt status. That''d scare the hell out of them. After all, we don''t give tax-exempt status to any other carnivals or dog and pony shows, so why should we do it for this scam?
Pibrnj1, Huh?
Mudrose, did your god have a belly button? I got one%u2026and it came from being born by a species of being within the animal kingdom%u2026.wait%u2026.my pet monkey has one too%u2026.and my pet possum%u2026.and my pet chicken%u2026.and my pet pot-belly pig%u2026.and my pet rhino%u2026.and wait, what%u2019s this, m KIDS have one too! Wow%u2026.so, we were formed in the image of your god so y assumptions HAS to be, I HAVE to deduce, that your god has one too, and so did Adam and Eve%u2026..I feel closer to god now, having figured that out.
Stevecburdet, your god wants my soul, tell him to come get it. He can see all, do all etc. etc. etc. I%u2019ll put it on E-bay on a Buy it Now for him.
Rillifane, well put. Do u ever go to church? I do. It%u2019s like a drug to me. Preachers don%u2019t preach the bible, the preach FROM it%u2026.they pick and choose what sells. I don%u2019t think that most weak peeps are dumb %u2013 just not well read.
Posted by SgtRDS
I might agree with this except leave the Islamist out otherwise they''ll get pizzed off and start blowing up stuff (they are after all a peaceful group).
Posted by mudrose at 09:56 AM : Sep 21, 2007
Respectfully, I would ask you to explain what you mean by this and await your pontification on what God "inside" means to you. Please forgive my being suspect of your oversimplification of a complex and life-long study of the issue of religion and God, but I am willing to hear you on the topic (which is not the case on politics).
When I look inside myself and listen to my little voice, what I hear is Chinese food, because my little voice loves Chinese food and is always telling me to go get eggroll. Eggroll is not a sin, grant you, but I am fairly sure it isn''t God either.
This world and my place in it is extremly complex and to placate me with an overly simple and unexplained answer is the basis of the whole problem. Lack of knowledge.
Why the helll did he let Barry Manillow write the songs the whole world sings?
What? That''s not in the Bible?
Ah, the good Christians don''t practice what they preach?
Oh my!
I consider myself a Christian, but it is not my place to judge others. Free will does mean that people have a choice. Being Christian means that you accept people''s choices and not judge them. Doesn''t mean you have to agree with their choices, only accept their right to make them. the love they neighbor part is hard when the mussic is blaring at 2 a.m.
AaaBee, I hope you want an answer to your question because that''s what I have for you.
First, God did not create us and leave us "to our own devices". True, He did give us free will, but He also gave us something else--or should I say, Someone else. God realized our hopeless condition and sent us a Savior. His Name is Jesus Christ. There is no name above that Name. Period.
I challenge you to search through history and you will find the finger of God at every point. God has involved Himself in human history and the results are there for you to examine.
You will also learn that the Bible is an accurate source that is trusted by the majority of unbiased historians.
One good reference book is "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" by Josh McDowell. Josh took the same trip I''m challenging you to take. An attorney, Frank Morrison, decided to write a book about Jesus and His last days but deny the resurrection. But he came to study the facts with care and wrote his book on the other side. His first chapter is known as, "The Book that Refused to be Written."
This is a search you will enjoy. Many people have undertaken it and are far better for it.
AaaBbb, once again I am impressed with your posts, not that I assume that this is why you post. You have a very deep insight that makes me think that at one time you were religious; at least Christian religious. You remind me of a Professor that I once had who had a similar method of communication and a comparable verbose eloquence. He was once a Baptist Minister who took the time to study %u2013 after studying for a bit, questions came up that caused additional study. In the end, he had to renounce not just his, but most religious dogma. He%u2019s a fascinating person to talk to as I bet you are.
Oh, a wise man just asked me where god would find a lawyer in his heaven should this have gone to trial%u2026..hmmmmmm%u2026%u2026.now there%u2019s a good question%u2026%u2026
people in hell, cause people in hell want ice
water. as firemen that is our job. many of us
will burn to a cinder, while bringing ice water
to people in hell. that is our sacrifice. again
today, the many shall perish, so the few may
be exalted and live high on the hog. the hogs
of nebraska, oink. pork bellies on the commodities
exchange anger the god of hogs. but always remember
though religion be nonsense, nonsense can make
more sense to some than common cents. congress
shall make no law concerning religion or abriding
the free exercise thereof. just around the corner
here from where i live, animals receive baptism.
the animals around believe too. believe and
be baptized, in the name of the father, the son
or holy ghost. or perish in everlasting fire.
seem like extortion? well? cooling waters.
how hot do you like it? too hot to handle?
global warming got ya all steamed up and boiling
mad? isn''t that too bad.
There is a notable difference in dialogue when people discuss issues from the heart, rather than regurgitating talking points picked up from our failing MSM. :)
But, wait, the bible says god dwells in the light on one verse and in the dark in another. It says he dwells in chooses temples in one verse, and that he does not dwell in temples in another. It says that he is seen and heard in one verse, yet another says he is not seen nor heard. One says he was tired and rested, one says he never tiers nor rests. One says he is satisfied with his works, yet another says he is not. Anyone that says that this book is a trusted and accurate work does not need to be a historian%u2026.they need to be a story teller like the rest of the biblical authors.
Yes, and.....
Respectfully, I have already stated that I believe God exists. All your nice points have been dealt with and accepted, but the journey progresses.
Mankind is searching, always on the hunt. If it were God for which we hunt, my finding Him should have ended the emptiness. It didn''t. My reading the Good Bible Genesis to Revelations should have slacked my thirst for knowledge. It didn''t.
I want God and cannot find Him. I need God and cannot feel Him. I am afraid, and feel like I stand without Him. Air has more presence in my life than He does, and I need Him more than air.
What then, dovestar? Am I not trying hard enough? Or perhaps is God not available, not near, not accessible to the needs of this frail human frame.
If I felt that I am the only one who dispaired, I would accept the blame of God''s aloofness on myself, but how many of us here know the feeling of aloneness, even Mother Theresa felt the same. If we labor as God asks us to do, and He cannot be with us in our labors, why do we need a God at all then, if we end up living our lives alone and unguided, even after we search, find, and accept Christ?
If you look hard enough you will find stuff like that. Like the famous example, "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. (Matt 27:5) Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.(Luke 10:37b)
Many of these examples are arrived at by taking verses out of context.
But can you explain why the Bible has more evidence for its accuracy than any ten pieces of classical literature combined? And despite the attacks on it that Book stands today solid as a rock? Can you explain that?
of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise
thereof. the most dominant religion in the u.s.a.
today is hedonism or epicureanism, religion of love,
dope and rock n roll. a populist religion. eat
drink, be merry, and marry everyone, for tomorrow
we die. the purpose of life is to have fun, fun,
fun, at someone else''s expense, they work, you enjoy
the profits and the gravy and party hearty while
they work their fingers to the bone. so that
the good times may roll. spend, spend, tomorrow''s
money, for tomorrow will never come, and the debts
of yesterday will be written off, because there
will be no one around to collect those debts. so
go ahead, leverage fifty quintillion dollars against
tomorrow collections. live now, borrow from tomorrow.
Darwin''s theory of evolution was embraced by the Nazis. It sorta, kinda, fit in with the political agenda. As far as your belly button is concerned, I believe it was there to give nourishment while you were growing in some apes womb.
Posted by AaaBee
Hey, it''s your complexity and it''s your life. If Chinese food in your belly tells you what to do, then you are certainly highly complex and quite the phenomenon
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Posted by meispam at 11:12 AM : Sep 21, 2007
Exactly!
When a person asks you a sincere question, this is your idea of a reply?
Hiding behind platitudes; is that an authentic basis upon which to build religious or political beliefs? What do you have but insupportable platitudes to give when you are asked even the most straightforward questions. Some of us, Mudrose, can see through insincerity.
What about answering me from "within", Mudrose. How about taking a look at how you feel and posting, for once, a genuine thought of your own.
quite explicit. i repeat. congress shall make
no law respecting the establishment of religion
or the free exercise thereof. and so the religion
of war, the religion of the police state, the religion
of no religion are also dominant religions in the
u.s.a. the religion of prisons for the many, and
freedom for the few, is another religion. operation
infinte justice and operation infinite mercy. for
Reality or God as you like it, is infinitely just
and also infinitely merciful. define infinity.
you cannot. you are using finite terms to define
infinity. and as a finite being, any concept
you have of infinity will come up short. little
short, need a loan, try the loan ranger. he never
asks debts to paid back. money for nothing, chicks
for free. aw what the heck, its only money.
that''s another religion too. some call him uncle sap.
uncle sam that is to say? the common fund is there
to have fun with. borrow now, never pay it back.
we''ll amortize it over 30 million years. give the
love loan to future generations. it ain''t so cool?
no its getting hotter.
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