Dec. 30, 2007
The Debate On California's Pot Shops
Morley Safer Reports On Proposition 215
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Eleven years ago, California became the first of a dozen states in the nation to legalize medical marijuana. True believers, including many doctors, say pot works to ease pain or counter the side effects of chemotherapy. And the National Academy of Sciences agrees, if the drug is carefully used. Critics see medical use as the gateway to legalizing all marijuana.
Well, how is the California state law working? As correspondent Morley Safer reports, the answer involves another statute: the law of unintended consequences.
For one thing, the federal government still views marijuana, medical or otherwise, as illegal and has been cracking down on dispensaries that sell it. For another, it's clear there are legions of people buying medical marijuana for the sole purpose of getting high. For both them and the truly ill in California, it's become an easy matter: just drop by your little pot shop around the corner.
It's just another day at a dispensary, as they call them, in San Francisco. There, with a note from a doctor, you can buy marijuana for anything you claim ails you, in just about any form, including cookies, pies and chocolate milk.
In many dispensaries up and down the state, there's a tasting corner, where you can sample the wares, and where you'll find any number of satisfied customers.
"I use medical marijuana for anxiety, neck pain and back pain. It seems to be the only thing that works that's not an opiate derivative," one man tells Safer.
Another man says he smokes marijuana because he has a torn ligament in his knee. "I use a pipe, a little bit of a time when needed," he explains.
There are hundreds of such stores in the state, and as many as 400 in southern California alone. The people who run them are members of the state's latest entrepreneurial class, calling themselves "caregivers." The feds call them something else. Case in point is a young man of many faces named Luke Scarmazzo.
He has been described as a businessman, a hip hop artist, and, by the government, as a drug dealer. Asked which of the descriptions apply to him, Scarmazzo says, "I'm a hip hop artist first. 'Cause that's what I've always been. And I'm a businessman second. But I'm not a drug dealer."
But he does acknowledge that he is in the drug business.
And like a growing number of people in the business of selling medical marijuana, Scarmazzo found himself and his dispensary on the receiving end of an unannounced, early morning raid by the federal Drug Enforcement Administration.
"They handcuffed me and put me on my kitchen table. And one of 'em walked up to me and held his badge up and said, 'You knew I'd be coming soon,'" Scarmazzo tells Safer.
But Scarmazzo says he didn't have a hint that the feds were on his case.
The DEA hits a handful of businesses like Scarmazzo's every few weeks. And in his case, business was good: in the town of Modesto, population 200,000, he sold $4.5 million worth of medical marijuana in two years.
And he was paid a good salary, too. "I took home $13,000 a month," he says. "I was working a lot of hours."
Scarmazzo’s lawyer, Tony Capozzi, says the business was above-board, by the book, and perfectly legal in California.
"We think this is selective prosecution," Capozzi says.
Selected, Capozzi says because of a high profile video Scarmazzo had made. In some scenes, he's a well-tailored businessman, a caregiver. But in other shots, he's a different man, flaunting money, pot, babes, and attitude, in a manner more in tune with drug dealing than care-giving.
"Do you not think that it's easy to see that video as him…being a smart ass…and saying, you know, 'Come and catch me if you can'?" Safer asks.
"In hindsight, yes," Capozzi agrees.
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See all 536 CommentsProhibition will never work.
Cops say legalize and regulate marijuana.
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WOW, REALLY?
Minister or not. Just another liberal idiot who can''t see past his nose, much less long term consequences.
Scott Imlar is a narc. He informed on peter Mc Williams and others in LA for his own profit. Nothing said by him should be given any credence - as he has none outside such credible sources as Morley Safer.
By the Way, the first intimations of Prop 215 came when Peter Gorman, editor of High times magazine, hosted Dennis Peron and our own Rev. Sam Smith of Our Church in his hotel room at the Norml convention in Washington DC in 1992 or 3. Sam met with Dennis to broach the subject, they worked out the details over seveal hours, and Dennis went back to San Francisco to write and organize the petition drive that resulted in the Initiative 215 being passed. Jack Herer attempted to mount a seperate initiative for hemp legalization that failed to get on the ballot as I recall. I have a picture of Dennis and Jack, united together on election nite 1996 in San Francisco, smoking the Peace Herb to their mutual delight. This has been verified to me as reported by Peter Gorman, by Dennis and Jack.
Again, give Scott Imlar a wide berth. He has no honor, nor respect amongst those who actually did the work. He has the blood of Peter McWilliams on his hands.
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1 Who ever smokes pot gets all the same poisons as a person that smokes sigarettes.
2 Mendocino County CA alone profits over $45 Billions a year from pot.
3 More than half of the pot sold in this country is sold to students under the age of 18.
4 There has been the THC pill ( marinol ) around for the last 35 years. We dont need pot.
5 These drug deakers took advantage of our simpathy for people in pain.
6 The pot growers care about nothing but money, and they make tons of it. Mostly from our kids.
We need to turn this around. We don''t need to legalize pot and start collecting kids lunch money through taxation.
We need to stop the lie of med pot and stop the poisoning of kids now.
1 Who ever smokes pot gets all the same poisons as a person that smokes cigarettes.
2 Mendocino County CA alone profits over $45 Billions a year from pot.
3 More than half of the pot sold in this country is sold to students under the age of 18.
4 There has been the THC pill ( marinol ) around for the last 35 years. We don''t need pot.
5 These drug dealers took advantage of our sympathy for people in pain.
6 The pot growers care about nothing but money, and they make tons of it. Mostly from our kids.
We need to turn this around. We don''''t need to legalize pot and start collecting kids lunch money through taxation.
We need to stop the lie of med pot and stop the poisoning of kids now.
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Below are comments from the Marijuana Policy Project in Washington DC.
Thanks so much for sharing that remarkable video. I will pass it along to others.
Take care,
Karen
Karen O''Keefe, Assistant Director of State Policies
Marijuana Policy Project
P.O. Box 77492, Capitol Hill
Washington, D.C. 20013
P: 202-462-5747, ext. 121
F: 202-544-1841
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Thanks for passing that on! We appreciate your support and commitment. Please feel free to contact me any time with your comments, questions, or concerns -- or any other good links that you''d like to pass on!
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Marijuana has been illegal for over 70 years.
Today it is America''s #1 cash crop and it is easier for kids to get than alcohol.
Drug gangs and drug dealers are making billions of dollars in profits because of their monopoly on the black market.
Legalization and regulation is a lot better than prohibition, we should have learned this important lesson from alcohol prohibition!
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dirt bags, who only think of love and food and
music, its up to you. i don''t like driving
with millions of drunk and stoned drivers. do you?
epicureans? eat, get drunk, love, make merry, for
tomorrow we die? hedonists? the purpose of life
is to have fun, fun, fun, at others expense? good
luck. otherwise, i have no comment.
law to make a law? the law of the jungle? 50% of
the world are teetotallers, never touch the stuff.
its just putrid fermentation. and the other
plants, and derivatives, poisonous, totally toxic,
and addicting. like deadly amanita in a way.
like sleeping with rattlesnakes in your cave.
the wisdom is non-intervention though. let the
society of drunks and stoners hit bottom. the grave.
that''s the final bottom. the bottomless pit, oblivion. co-existence? world health organzation
says constantly, not enuff being done by u.s.a. to
combat its dope demand, liquor demand, *** demand,
its gambling demand, its poisoning of the rest of
the world. u.s.a. called on the carpet continually.
again and again. we give lipservice to our recommendations for other countries and the rest
of the world. say one thing, do another. are
we responsible for the behavior of all our citizens,
here or overseas?
For those who are anti smoking, it can be eaten, so there goes that argument.
It is fun, it aids relaxation, stimulates appetite, slows the progression of glaucoma, aids chemotherapy and is a mild aphrodisiac, as well.
For those who don''t like it, don''t use it, but to tell others they have no right do enjoy something that does no harm to others, and benefits themselves (if you discount the effects and consequences of it being illegal) is at best fascism.
Legalize it totally, tax it, and use the money to improve health care, education, and social services. For a plant that costs more than gold, but is a consumable, it is stupid to ignore the cash potential the pot sales people have enjoyed for centuries.
Yes, THC, the active constituent of marijuana, has been available in capsule form for some time. However, as far as pain-riddled cancer patients on chemotherapy are concerned, it''s worthless.
While the chemotherapy is kicking in, anything ingested orally will be thrown up, so the THC has to be inhaled to be effective. The Feds have repeatedly vetoed any attempts to develop a THC inhaler because thay fear that THC in this form will be abused, so cancer sufferers have no choice other than to smoke marijuana as their THC source.
If pot is illegal, tobacco should be illegal. But neither is going away, and such stupid laws just increase police abuse, payoffs, and general disrespect for laws. Decrim is a better answer.
Logic says that doctors can prescribe far more dangerous and addicting drugs than marijuana. Common sense says that this issue ought to be decided for the good of the patient, in the privacy of the doctor-patient relationship. Compassion says that no patient should suffer needlessly, and no patient should go to prison for following a doctor''s advice. Science says that marijuana has great potential to safely relieve pain and other symptoms associated with a wide range of medical conditions.
Registered nurses have taken a leadership position on this issue because so many of us have seen first hand how marijuana can safely and effectively relieve patient suffering. It is our duty, as patient advocates, to speak out. For more information, visit www.medicalcannabis.com/, the web site of Patients Out of Time. Patients Out of Time''s 5th National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics is scheduled for April 4 - 5, 2008 in Pacific Grove, California.
Ken Wolski, RN, MPA
Executive Director, Coalition for Medical Marijuana--New Jersey, Inc., (www.cmmnj.org )
844 Spruce St.
Trenton, NJ 08648
609.394.2137 ohamkrw@aol.com
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Following a doctors prescription I have tried different types of Valiums, these knock me out, if it even stays down. I''ve used various suppositories; they''re not much fun to use, and they help about like a Valium. I have also used Marinol. When I don''t vomit it up Marinol can take anywhere from half an hour or more to do anything (and often times it helps none at all). Marinol can costs up to 10 dollars a pill, or more, which is more expensive than marijuana harvested from a home garden.
Often when I smoke marijuana while experiencing an episode of nausea or vomiting. My stomach pain ebbs and the nausea often subsides or ends all together, occasionally instantly. Sometimes without marijuana these episodes of nausea and vomiting have lasted for days. This herb helps in keeping these episode''s shorter, fewer in number, and when I do have a serious episode out of the hospital from dehydration; by helping me hold down enough fluids to stay hydrated.
Being able to grow and use my own medicine has worked better than anything I''ve been prescribed. In monetary terms this medicinal plant has saved me, and the government thousands of dollars.
When I medicate with herbs I don''t have to fill my prescription for Marinol, suppositories, or Valiums all of which hardly work, and cost a fortune. Also I''m not Valiumed out or so doped up to where I can hardly keep my tongue in my mouth.
Law enforcement has been wasting time locking up and busting people for possession and distribution of this stigmatized plant. Tax payers waste money prosecuting citizens who in turn spend money defending themselves from harsh marijuana laws.
However, if the herb was legalized and taxed the government''s problems with funding education could be subsidized. Optimist believe all education and law enforcement could be funded with the legalization and taxation of marijuana.
Imagine the government generating revenue from marijuana: growers, employers, employees, and customers of hash bars/smoke shops could all be taxed on different levels. Enterprising Americans can see the potential in marijuana being a new facet of commerce.
People of the modern age prefer prohibiting a healthy substance that anyone can grow in a window. To men in white coats designing drugs that cost a fortune and are synthesized from god only knows what.
It''s time for change.
there is a very simple reason why marijuana was made illegal: corporations cant control it as a product; it occurs in nature and what you need you can grow in your backyard. one way or another: its all about $$$
which is why hard grains (vodka, gin) are legal but moonshine is not. think about it.
alcohol is more debilitating and more addictive, as is gambling but they are legal. Hmmmmm. I wish you would just be honest and admit that it is all about $$$ run by the friends of politicians.
People are suffering, and in pain. They need relief and doctors are the gatekeepers to that relief. That is, with the exception of Medical Marijuana. It relieves muscle spasms, massive headaches, nausea and vomiting, vertigo, depression and mania, nerve pain, insomnia, colitis, irritable bowel syndrome, digestive upset, inter-occular pressure, deep tissue pain, just for starters. And, it leaves the user with a feeling of well-being and comfort. Is there any wonder why the medical community would want it to remain illegal? They simply can''t compete with a natural medicine, patients self-administer, that can do so many things traditional medicines (pharmaceuticals) fail miserably at.
This administration REALLY needs to get its priorities straight. Our country''s children, and the ill, are suffering so that the DEA can harrass LEGAL MMJ users. I wonder if targeting "MMJ Sitting
Ducks" has anything to do with the failing "War On Drugs" that we are dumping millions of dollars into? Hmmmmmmmmm easy pickings, no work, who cares if they lose all the cases-they only count the arrest. Conversely, sniffing our Crack dens and Meth labs takes a considerable amount of work, and it''s dangerous work too. Better to chase down herbalists.
The Netherlands%u2019s drug use was at the same levels as the United States. Since the partial legalization of cannabis, hard drug use (heroin, LSD, cocaine, etc...) has gone down sub- stantially, while in the US it has risen in huge amounts. If marijuana really were a gateway drug, hard drug use would have gone up, not down. Gateway drug? I think not.
Resource, http://members.tripod.com/~totaleuphoria/marijuana.html.
People, this drug war is seriously rediculous. Let sick people get what they need to feel comfortable.
We should have learned from the past - alcohol prohibition, the same thing is going on here.
I read a comment earlier by someone who said that over half of the black market marijuana is sold to students under 18. How true this actually is I''m not sure, but it wouldn''t surprise me. Adults that are trying to follow their dreams aren''t going to risk losing their freedom with current laws. As a former marijuana smoker (over 2 years ago), at the age of 17, it was easier for me to obtain marijuana than alcohol and yes, even easier than cigarettes. No one IDs you or asks for your age, if you got the money, and you certainly know the local dealer at your school, then you can buy. With legalization - it would be regulated and you would most certainly have to be at least 18 to buy. That''s just not the case currently.
I also read earlier someone posting that cocaine is also found naturally in nature. While this is true, it''s not found in large concentrations that are then snorted - that''s not how it is in nature. That''s like saying that paper is just found out in nature - not really.
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http://druglaw.typepad.com/drug_law_blog/2007/07/the-top-5-archi.html
Harry Anslinger: Cannabis Prohibition based on racism and sold it from a foundation of fear. sound familiar??? it was a lie then, its a lie now.
http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/anslinger.htm
http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/hamwright.pdf
http://druglaw.typepad.com/drug_law_blog/2007/07/the-top-5-archi.html
Harry Anslinger: Cannabis Prohibition based on racism and sold it from a foundation of fear. sound familiar??? it was a lie then, its a lie now.
http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/anslinger.htm
http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/hamwright.pdf
http://druglaw.typepad.com/drug_law_blog/2007/07/the-top-5-archi.html
Harry Anslinger: Cannabis Prohibition based on racism and sold it from a foundation of fear. sound familiar??? it was a lie then, its a lie now.
http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/anslinger.htm
http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/hamwright.pdf
http://druglaw.typepad.com/drug_law_blog/2007/07/the-top-5-archi.html
Harry Anslinger: Cannabis Prohibition based on racism and sold it from a foundation of fear. sound familiar??? it was a lie then, its a lie now.
http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/anslinger.htm
various serious ailments. It''s important that the public understand that "It''s not all about getting high or it''s a gateway drug"
Marijuna has been proven as mentioned in your interview has many positive properties that can help those of us who suffer from chronic pain on a daily basis without the use of powerful pain medications such as vicodan,oxycontin etc. These drugs can cause great physical/mental dependencies - people can and do become ADDICTED which causes problems within our society as a whole.
I only hope that the Government throughout the USA will become aware of the medical benefits so those of us who legitimately could use this substance to aliviate serious pain without feeling like a criminal anylonger.
Michael
The pharmaceutical industry would like nothing better than to see the demise of medical marijuana. They have the government in one of their hip pockets, why am I not surprised that the media might be in the other.
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