Dress Code Debate: 2nd Passenger Censored
Woman Says Southwest Flight Attendant Made Her Cover Up For Flight
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Setara Qassim said a flight attendant confronted her during the trip from Tucson, Ariz., to Burbank, Calif., and asked whether she had a sweater to go over her green halter-style dress.
Qassim, 21, told KNBC-TV in Los Angeles she was forced to wrap a blanket around herself for the rest of the flight. She complained that if Southwest wants passengers to dress a certain way, it should publish a dress code.
Last week, 23-year-old Kyla Ebbert said a Southwest employee pulled her aside as she was preparing to board a plane departing San Diego for Tucson in July and told her she was dressed too provocatively to fly.
Ebbert, who took her case to NBC's "Today Show," said she was allowed on the plane after adjusting her sweater and short skirt. She said she was humiliated and felt the stares of other passengers who had overheard the verbal dressing-down.
Dallas-based Southwest Airlines Co. acknowledged the incident involving Ebbert, but airline spokesman Chris Mainz said the company had no record that Qassim ever complained.
Messages left with Qassim at her California home were not immediately returned to The Associated Press.
Southwest - which dressed its stewardesses in hot pants and called itself "the love airline" back in the 1970s - relies on employees to decide whether a passenger's attire may offend other customers, Mainz said.
"We don't have a dress code. We rely on our employees to use common sense, good judgment and good taste," Mainz said. "It's so rare for us to have to address a customer's clothing issue."
American Airlines claims the right to refuse to carry passengers for a variety of reasons, including being drunk, barefoot, having an offensive odor or being "clothed in a manner that would cause discomfort or offense to other passengers."
"It's generally a graphic on a T-shirt that might be uncomfortable" to another passenger, said American Airlines spokesman Tim Wagner. "We always find ways to mitigate it as best possible, with not allowing someone on a flight being the last option."
David Castelveter, spokesman for the Air Transport Association, the trade group of the major U.S. airlines, said he didn't know of any airline having a dress code for passengers.
Lynda White, who teaches etiquette classes and calls herself "The First Lady of Manners," said many young people have gotten lax on what to wear and how to act - possibly influenced by Hollywood stars. She recommends "business-casual" outfits for the plane because you might be seated next to a potential employer or business contact.
"If you wear provocative clothing, tattoos, or you smell of alcohol or cigarettes, who's going to believe you?" she said.
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Yes, way to go Southwest. But don''t stop there. If a flight attendant doesn''t like a passenger''s haircut, that person should be removed from the flight. Same for somebody wearing unattractive shoes. Mis-matched socks - off the plane! Bad breath - get out! Untrimmed nose hair - put them in the cargo bay. Too short - handcuff them and lead ''em off the plane. Strong eyeglass prescriptions - make them wear a bag over their head. ANY supporter of Amnesty John - kick the Sh*t out of them, then throw them off the plane at 30,000 feet. And on and on and on...
That will teach those annoying people known as "paying passengers" who''s BOSS.
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They have a lot of experience over there in those countries.
VastR-WCon, you otherwise have a point, but aren''t you taking things to irrational extremes? The issue has centered over lack of clothing, not if it''s got a wrinkle or the wearer of said clothing having a nose hair out of place.
Throwing out Bait - Trying to reel in - a Young Man
Who - For a time - Allows his Emotions to :
Guide his brain ! !
Young girls - Wear makeup - That''s just - War Paint ! !
Young Girls - Out to Scalp - a Young Boys Heart ! !
It''s an Act - and a Game - That has been played out
Time after Time throughout the Ages.
It''s nice to see - The Game - Still goes on ! !
___
Southwest Airlines Employees :
Excellent expression of the : Master - Slave Mentality
Proud Endorsement of the - National Socialist (Nazi) Ideology
Champion of : Criminal Corporate (Nazi) America
Master - Slave Mentality - That''s all it is ! !
Planning an Air Commute ? ?
Make it Simple on Yourself
Boycott - Southwest Airlines ! ! !
Lastdance
If you have a problem with the way : Women Dress
take it up with your own - Psychiatrist -
Lastdance
Posted by OLD5HITA55
perhaps you should display some of this shame in your post name.
OLD5HITA55?
Any religious attire that I THINK may cause a disruption, I, as a SWA attendant, would be able to remove the wearer from the plane?
Let''s see THAT happen!
Sounds like an enforced, fully explained policy is required. Barring that, the airlines should be held legally liable.
Very interesting.
Never made sense to me that women will wear revealing attire then complain when men look. Just doesn''t make sense.
If they don''t want to be told to dress decently, then they should cover up. Furthermore, it can get chilly on them airliners. A sweater isn''t such a bad thing.
Passengers must speak English or fly with an interpreter ESPECIALLY if they are talking on a cell phone.
This would make more sense.
I honestly can''t recall not even one incident where a plane crashed due to the pilot looking at a passangers boobbs in his rearview mirror.
And get over it girls have been doing this for years and we look. What I did not know by law I could look for 11 seconds and only looked for 3 or 4 seconds. I want my refund on my 7 seconsd lost. I think somebody owes me three or four years. GEE
DON''T FLY SOUTHWEST AND LET THEM TAKE THEIR RUDENESS TO THE EMPLOYMENT LINE!
PEOPLE LIKE ME KNOW THE FEMALE ANATOMY AND DON''T NEED TO BE REMINDED OF IT!
TO ALL WHO DRESS TOO REVEALING , CAN YOU SAY "DECENT "?
These women weren''t dressed in anything that isn''t seen on thousands of women everywhere. Nothing was risque. They looked fine.
I can imagine why you don''t want to be reminded of the female body. You no longer have access and maybe never did. You sound like an old fuddy-duddy. Or maybe you want to be reminded of the bodies of men?
Sorry old man but the cut off for flying southwest is 68 - you can''t do 69 on any airline so your troubles are almost over.
BTW don''t tell anyone when you do turn 69 cause you may get arrested for being a dirty old man.
at what age did you stop looking???
your making me worried... lol
remininds me of the guy that had a T-shirt that said...
i''m not a gynecologists...
but i''ll take a look...
understandable...
i can be faithful and still appreciate the beauty of other flowers...
These women weren''''t dressed in anything that isn''''t seen on thousands of women everywhere. Nothing was risque. They looked fine.
I can imagine why you don''''t want to be reminded of the female body. You no longer have access and maybe never did. You sound like an old fuddy-duddy. Or maybe you want to be reminded of the bodies of men?
LETS FACE SEE ONE AND YOU HAVE SEEN THEM ALL UNLESS THEY ARE A FREAK! SEEING A WELL DRESSED WOMAN IS MORE OF A TURN ON, IF YOU HAVE A MALES IMAGINATION!
I AM A MAN OF HIGH MORALS AND FROM THE POSTS I HAVE READ, I MAY BE THE ONLY ONE LEFT!
-you may consider a change of name to "foxhole".
sorry for your loss and congrats on your being "faithful", but these women are still young.
You have a choice, so don''t fly.
Let the rest of us look, cause we''re still living.
SO I WILL LOG OFF AND GET TO OTHER BUSINESS!
BYE!
SO I WILL LOG OFF AND GET TO OTHER BUSINESS!
BYE!
Posted by prairiefox1
and the party starts now!
It''s sexier to me if it''s a pretty woman with a nice body who is dressed in a classy, stylish way. Not lookie like a h-o-o-c-h-i-e. It looks like they''re trying too hard to get the attention of men. Whether that''s true or not, that''s how it comes across to me.
Another trend I have noticed is women wearing EXTREMELY tight dress slacks. Kind of thing they''d
wear to the office. But they''re just as tight as jeans. You want men checking out your *** all day
at work? Quite a few black women go for that. Don''t want to leave anything to anyone''s imagination.
So much easier to be a man.
I''m glad I''m a man.
Re: "Last week, 23-year-old Kyla Ebbert said a Southwest employee pulled her aside as she was preparing to board a plane departing San Diego for Tucson in July and told her she was dressed too provocatively to fly."
Wow!
Southwest should look to the Taliban for their employment pool. They have similar ideals!
(they have higher moral standards than do infidels)
By Barbara Ann
This reminds me of school.
There were item of dress banned.
The girls wore halter tops.
Mini skirts too short.
I did not.
My blouse and skirt below the knee.
It was what I was allowed to wear.
Mum would not allow me to dress like my peers.
So when they ask my skirt be shorter.
I wore blouse and slack.
Now I am older.
I wear jeans and T shirt.
The young today wear the baggy look.
Boys and girls of all skin colours.
Some wear so little.
Why their parents would allow.
I will never know.
I would rather they cover up.
What happened to being decently dressed.
It is alway good manners.
If there is a dress code .
To dress properly.
As I tap my way thru life.
I know styles change.
I fold my white cane up.
I hope I look right.
Yes we blind people
Know how to dress our person.
Please give Barbara Ann credit if you use this verse. Thank you.
Throwing out Bait - Trying to Capture - a Young Man
Who - For a time - Allows his Emotions to :
Guide his brain ! !
Young girls - Wear makeup - That''s just - War Paint ! !
Young Girls - Out to Scalp - a Young Boys Heart ! !
It''s an Act - and a Game - That has been played out
Time after Time - Throughout the Ages.
It''s nice to see - The Game - Still goes on ! !
___
Southwest Airlines Employees :
Excellent expression of the : Master - Slave Mentality
Proud Endorsement of the - National Socialist (Nazi) Ideology
Champion of : Criminal Corporate (Nazi) America
Master - Slave Mentality - That''s all it is ! !
Planning an Air Commute ? ?
Make it Simple on Yourself
Boycott - Southwest Airlines ! ! !
Lastdance
Next on their list:
No passangers that are:
1. Gay;
2. Lesbian;
3. Adulters;
4. Jewish;
5. Bisexual;
6. Health risk;
7. Handicapped;
8. Fat;
9. dark hair/skin;
10.Old;
You obviously don''t get it. Yes, anyone from the "groups" that you listed should be asked to dress appropriately just like anyone else or expect the consequences. This is not about diversity, it is about common sense.
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