BIG CREEK, W.Va., Sept. 13, 2007

Locals: Torture Suspects Were Trouble

Six White Captors Accused Of Torturing Black Woman In W.Va.

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    • A mobile home and shed in Big Creek, W.Va., shown Wednesday, Sept. 12, 2007, where authorities say 20-year-old Charleston, W.Va., resident Megan Williams was allegedly held captive for at least a week and tortured by six individuals. Photo

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    • Carmen Williams, right, comforts her 20-year-old daughter Megan Williams in her Charleston, W.Va., hospital room, Monday, Sept. 10, 2007. Photo

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(CBS/AP)  Charlotte and Roy Williams tried to avoid their neighbors, a rowdy bunch who blared music for days on end. But the noise may have been the least of their offenses.

Authorities say they held a 20-year-old black woman for about a week at their mobile home, where she was tortured, sexually assaulted and forced to eat rat droppings.

Megan Williams' captors, who were white, choked her with a cable cord, stabbed her in the leg while calling her a racial slur, poured hot water over her, made her drink from a toilet and beat her, according to criminal complaints.

State authorities said Wednesday they would not pursue hate crime charges because the other charges the suspects face carry stiffer penalties. But federal civil rights violations remain an option, U.S. Attorney Charles T. Miller said.

"If I knowed that was happening up there, I would have gone up there myself to try and help that girl," said Roy Williams, who is not related to Megan Williams.

The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault, but Megan Williams and her mother, Carmen Williams, agreed to release her name. Carmen Williams said she wanted people to know what her daughter had endured.

It wasn't until an anonymous tip led Logan County sheriff's deputies to the property on Saturday that Megan Williams' ordeal ended. She was not a random target and had had a "social relationship" with one of the suspects, Logan County Prosecutor Brian Abraham said.

Megan Williams remained hospitalized Wednesday in Charleston. The hospital declined to release any information about her condition.

Police tape remained at the scene in Big Creek, and empty beer cans filled a rusting shopping cart next to the mobile home. An empty TV dinner tray collected rainwater near the front door.

Like many in Big Creek, Roy Williams, 61, and his wife, Charlotte, 49, avoided the property.

"We know everyone over here in this area - except them," Charlotte Williams said. "We didn't want to know them."

The mobile home's residents - Bobby Brewster, 24, and his mother, Frankie Brewster, 49 - are among six people charged in the case.

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by radiob-2009 September 13, 2007 8:41 AM PDT
Unfortunely our justice system will let these criminals back into society after 20 years.
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by blondmadison September 13, 2007 8:58 AM PDT
RadioB:

Isn''t that the worst?

That no matter what, they just might be able to get out due to overcrowding or what ever other reason. But hold on, a life sentence for kidnapping without possiblility of parole is what the prosecutors are going for.

With life sentence and - no possiblitity of parole--that''s life buddy--over crowding or not they may not ever leave. It''s the ''no possibility of parole'' clause which will keep them for the duration of their lives.

Say a prayer. These people are viciously dangerous and very sick.
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by radiob-2009 September 13, 2007 9:03 AM PDT
Posted by BlondMadison


These and their ilk should never see daylight again. Life imprisonment is to kind of a punishment for them.Please bloggers save us the psycho babble about rehabiltation and remorse for their crimes (which eventually one of them will claim). This is "terrorism" thrust upon a individual and society as a whole.
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by upopinion September 13, 2007 9:16 AM PDT
IF IT WAS ME , I''D GIVE THEM THE SAME TREATMENT THEY DISHED OUT TO THAT POOR WOMAN.ACTUALLY I COULD''NT BRING MYSELF TO TREAT ANOTHER HUMAN BEING LIKE THAT. THESE PEOPLE ARE EVIL AND SICK . I HOPE THAT THE COURTS GIVE THEM WHAT THEY DESREVE.
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by tehkummah-2009 September 13, 2007 9:20 AM PDT
Can you say "butt-ugly morons"....
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by liberalme September 13, 2007 9:27 AM PDT
Wow--Looks like a bunch of Rhoades scholars!

Moonshine swilling illiterate red-necks--can''t bring themselves out of the 50''s.
Lowlife do nothings like these have nothing good to contribute to society. There''s a special place in hell for people like this.
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by mswolfestock September 13, 2007 9:50 AM PDT
Poor White Trash: Poster Children for Ethnic Cleansing. I''m totally sickened by this whole thing. They ought to be rounded up out of their shacks and thrown down the nearest abandoned mine shaft, but that would still be way too good for them. Send them on a permanent "vacation" to some exotic location like Somalia or Iraq.

By the way, I''m white and I live in the northern part of West Virginia, six miles from the Pennsylvania state line. Up here we are not like that. Unfortunately the southern part of the state is full of sub-human creatures like them.
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by rainyday9 September 13, 2007 9:51 AM PDT
These people oughta be in movies -

Deliverance

or as Poster models, saying

"Don''t Let This Happen to You!"

LOOK at them... scary.
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by ssm9451 September 13, 2007 10:31 AM PDT
In 1991 108 crimnal charges filed against the six. Frankie Brewster charged with murder in 1994, served 5 years. WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM??? Don''t get it.
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by marcpcbs September 13, 2007 10:33 AM PDT
I''ve allways known,
Trash comes in all colors.
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by marcpcbs September 13, 2007 10:38 AM PDT
It''s not that it takes all kinds.
It''s just that there are all kinds.
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by HQ12 September 13, 2007 10:47 AM PDT
EVERY PERSON REGARDLESS OF YOUR RACE IN THE WORLD SHOULD BE OUTRAGEOUS. WHERE IS AL SHARPTON, JESSE JACKSON, THE NAACP. THE MEDIA TALK ABOUT MIKE VICK,, DUKE UNV. THE LITTLE GIRL IN ANOTHER COUNTRY MISSING. THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT. BUT THIS IS SO SICK, THAT THE MEDIA SHOULD FOCUS ON THIS AT EVERY NEWS HOUR.MY PRAYER GOES OUT TO THIS YOUNG LADY AND HER FAMILY. GOD GOT PLANS FOR THESE SICKO.
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by bubbles114 September 13, 2007 10:48 AM PDT
All races has their own monsters. These people are surely monsters...I don''t care what race you are.. even purple..nobody should be treated the way she was treated.If the mom of the woman who was torture is black and then I am purple. I am not buying ABC,..what are you really up to now?????
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by weareone2 September 13, 2007 10:51 AM PDT
This is horrible. Life w/o possibility of parole sounds suitable. BTW, I''m Caucasian. (I don''t like the terms "white" and "black". For one thing, nobody is actually white or black. Unless you''re albino, you some shade of brown. And black/white makes us sound so different, when we are more alike than different.)
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by feelfree1 September 13, 2007 11:00 AM PDT

Re: "Authorities say they held a 20-year-old black woman for about a week at their mobile home, where she was tortured, sexually assaulted and forced to eat rat droppings."

Local military recruiter rubs hands together, cracks a sinister smile, picks up the phone, and begins to dial....
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by mkbjon September 13, 2007 11:06 AM PDT
These people were rough around the edges, to say the least. You can tell they are bad news just by looking at them. I wonder how she became associated with them in the first place. I''m not blaming the victim, I am a black woman myself and I think that all violent offenders should be off the streets; race should be irrelevant. The mom had already killed an elderly woman and they all have criminal records. I''ll never understand what makes people think THEY''RE safe when they hang around with those who have hurt others. Lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
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by dragonmouse-2009 September 13, 2007 11:14 AM PDT
These six creeps really need to be taken out of the gene pool!

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by bwright923 September 13, 2007 11:27 AM PDT
feelfree1,
what is your comment suppose to mean?
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 11:35 AM PDT
The thing about racism: it starts with making fun of different groups, then it goes into calling them names, maybe ignoring them at counters and stores and making them wait, then others find every little fault wrong with a group to justify not liking them or for mistreating or judging them.

But, no matter the group or the progression of prejudice, it ends the same way--all of the above a part of a dehumanizing process to justify, why certain things can be said, done to or thought of a certain group--but it always ends up at some point in violence.

it may be just verbal violence, like calling people nappy headed hos----or it can get uglier and end up with beatings, rapes and tortures...or worst of all, in gas chambers and killing fields.

The point is, it always start with the difference and the justification AND most important--with the group doing the hating, denying that it goes on and defending the attitudes and actions until they become too evil to defend.

This happened to a black person, but it could just as easily happen to a hispanic, chinese or other minority or a gay, a fat person or anyone that the perps thought was ''fair game''.

RAcism, is what we call it, but hatred of anything different is what it really is.
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by realpatriot1 September 13, 2007 11:35 AM PDT
I don''t know what the evidence was in the previous case, but this is what happens when D.A.s and judges allow someone up on murder 1 to plea bargain to manslaughter and get out in 13 years to become predators again.

Life without the possibility of parole should be instituted for repeat offenders like this.
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by extremophil September 13, 2007 11:37 AM PDT
Gee....They all have such honest faces.
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by tbweb September 13, 2007 11:37 AM PDT
This is another example of why America continues to survive, progress and move on albeit slowly after 200 years. Because at the end of the day, it''s our value systems that bind us together, not our skin color! No decent White would want to be associated or been seen with these White''s. Even more to the point no decent Christian would want to be seen with these morally lost and confused people.

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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 11:39 AM PDT
I''''ll never understand what makes people think THEY''''RE safe when they hang around with those who have hurt others. Lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
Posted by mkbjon at 11:06 AM : Sep 13, 2007


Actually, you ARE trying to blame the victim--perhaps to reassure yourself how it could not happen to YOU? The fact is, the info about the crimes came out NOW--most people do not have their life history tatooed on their foreheads--maybe the girl did not know.

Also it was reported that the girl was very sheltered and mentally slow. Such a person could easily be enticed or misled, because they automatically trust people if they have never been harmed.

the mom said repeatedly that she never imagined there were people who could do this out there. So maybe the mom lives in La la land and raised her daughter there too. After all, as a black, surely she knew something about Emmett Till, lynchings, mistreatments, that black man being dragged behind a truck in 1997 and that hispanic boy being beaten and sodomized.

What the mom really shows is that she is naive and just did not think anything like that could happen in her family or to her daughter. But news happens to somebody--and there is no law that guarantees it won''t be any one of us. We all slip by only for the Grace of God.
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 11:44 AM PDT
Poor White Trash: Poster Children for Ethnic Cleansing. I''''m totally sickened by this whole thing. They ought to be rounded up out of their shacks and thrown down the nearest abandoned mine shaft, but that would still be way too good for them. Send them on a permanent "vacation" to some exotic location like Somalia or Iraq.

By the way, I''''m white and I live in the northern part of West Virginia, six miles from the Pennsylvania state line. Up here we are not like that. Unfortunately the southern part of the state is full of sub-human creatures like them.

Posted by mswolfestock at 09:50 AM : Sep 13, 2007

some of the most racist groups in the world are in Penn. There are all kinds in all states, not just the south. It is not the area, it is the raising or lack there of in the people. But that said, there are lots of white southerners, who may not care for blacks, but who would never condone anything like this and would try to stop this.

this had nothing to do with white trash and more to do with evil people period. Don''t forget that one of their ''friends" who was allowed to witness the abuse is the one who told the police about it. Someone is a hero--and they probably are white and live around that area too.
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by socrates392 September 13, 2007 11:46 AM PDT
Life without the possibility of parole should be instituted for repeat offenders like this.

Posted by realpatriot1 at 11:35 AM : Sep 13, 2007

I doubt these people are going anywhere. Their crimes ares so heinous, the judge will throw the book at them in sentencing. No parole board is going to give these sick *** parole.
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 11:47 AM PDT
feelfree1,
what is your comment suppose to mean?
Posted by bwright923 at 11:27 AM : Sep 13, 2007


Probably points to the fact that the military is so desperate now--they are enlisting convicted felons....I took it to mean that the recruiter now sees possibly 6 good "men" who would do a fine job of torture, maiming and killing in Iraq for the good of our national interest.
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by radiob-2009 September 13, 2007 11:58 AM PDT
Local military recruiter rubs hands together, cracks a sinister smile, picks up the phone, and begins to dial....

Posted by FeelFree1

The implication that our service members are like these individuals is in poor taste, especially coming from someone who "claims" to have served.This is not about Iraq, this about some pieces of garbage that assaulted viciously this poor women. It happens everywhere.
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 12:03 PM PDT
doubt these people are going anywhere. Their crimes ares so heinous, the judge will throw the book at them in sentencing. No parole board is going to give these sick *** parole.
Posted by socrates392 at 11:46 AM : Sep 13, 2007



Don''t be sooo sure. Certain parts of the country have a history of being lenient in the face of hate crimes. Remember the acquittal verdict in the Rodney King case,even though it all was on video? it all depends on if there is a jury trial or if the judge and/or the jurors are not secret members of the local clan--then again, the amount of public scrutiny from around the country may make who ever sentences a bit skittish about being too lenient. Something is wrong in that state--how else could a Murder 1 conviction get pled down to voluntary manslaughter and the perp only serve 5 years?
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by chenz66 September 13, 2007 12:04 PM PDT
It just goes to show you that EVERY race has there low life, scum sucking pigs. These folks are just plain WHITE TRASH that deserve whatever they get. Have fun in prison.
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 12:06 PM PDT
I hope all cop bashers and race baiting people notice that who ever told on these guys was a decent person and that the cop did not just wink at the kidnappers and walk away leaving this young woman to her fate. So not all cops are bad or racists are evil, eh? Always gradations of morality in behavior.
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by feelfree1 September 13, 2007 12:14 PM PDT

radiob,

Re: "The implication that our service members are like these individuals is in poor taste, especially coming from someone who "claims" to have served."

Poor taste or not, it is the ugly reality of the situation, as way, way, more than a "few bad apples" have demonstrated.

You seem compelled to think that veterans and non, should worship our military members, no matter what. The fact is, that many of our military men and women are involved in a disgraceful and illegal fraud-based war of aggression. I am not happy about that. I tried to prevent it, and I have tried to end it. I encourage and support any soldier that resists participation. These are my heroes. The rest are victims, at best.

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toldyouso21,

Re: "Probably points to the fact that the military is so desperate now--they are enlisting convicted felons....I took it to mean that the recruiter now sees possibly 6 good "men" who would do a fine job of torture, maiming and killing in Iraq for the good of our national interest."

Yes, this is what I was implying. Good to see that subtlety is not lost on all.
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 12:15 PM PDT
I too hate it when they talk about colored people. All people to me are the same. I personally am caucasion. (White skinned only).Posted by az97202 at 11:53 AM : Sep 13, 2007


I agree. Whites are not a lack of color--they are peachy, creamy, ivory, olive or some can be even tanned a deep brown.- or in the case of Hindus --blue black. Blacks are also colors---from the palest ivory (and they often pass for white) to the deepest ebony. The fact is, of course both groups are color--but a color is not a race. There are Indians and Pakistanis and Hispanics that are a lot darker than many Blacks but are still considered caucasian based on other traits. (Iraqis and Iranians and Saudis are also scientifically classed as caucasian.

We are more alike under the skin than different and there is something wrong where we stopped calling other races by color (like yellow or red men) but still want to call the dominant and the most different by color and everyone else by ethnicity. After all we don''t care if people are Japanese American or Mexican American or Turkish American--but we balk and get upset if blacks choose to be called African American. It is as if we NEED to exploit the difference and keep it front and center. Extreme ends of the spectrum. Black/white, Right/wrong, left/right, Good/Bad--same game--different words. We really are just people--most good--but bad also--in every single color or ethnicity.
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 12:19 PM PDT
The implication that our service members are like these individuals is in poor taste, especially coming from someone who "claims" to have served.This is not about Iraq, this about some pieces of garbage that assaulted viciously this poor women. It happens everywhere.
Posted by radiob at 11:58 AM : Sep 13, 2007


Actually, this is NOT about Iraq, but human behavior--and as you well know--some of our military men and women are as bad or worse as these people. The number of rapes and maimings in Iraq are not limited to the gang rape and setting on fire of Abeer. There are documented cases of rapes by our soldiers that include men, women and children in Iraq. Maybe another reason we are not trusted eh?

The point is--even in our military, there are evil people--no race, group, mindthink or creed is immune to evil being among them. And in the sanctioned mayhem and debauchery /carnage of war--it is easy for those bad traits to manifest and take free reign.
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 12:24 PM PDT
TOLD ALL OF YOU WE ARE THE WORLD RAINBOW COALITION RETARDS THAT THE WOMAN WAS A PROSTITUTE, TURNS OUT I WAS RIGHT! YOU WERE WRONG!

"ROMANTICALLY INVOLVED"
Posted by darkmeat4 at 12:21 PM : Sep 13, 2007


We don''t care what she is or was. Lord help your idea of romantically involved. One of them may or may not have been having sexxx with that woman--but at no point do many women sign on for multiple rapes, tortures or to eat rat and dog ******** and be slashed with knives. At least none of us normal people--now you--your idea of "Romance" might be just a tad different than ours.

No one deserves torture or having to be held captive and made to service men and women--but like I said--maybe in YOUR lexicon and your world--but most of us think that is sick.
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by augustus131 September 13, 2007 12:26 PM PDT
I''m curious,.. In the article it says "He (Bobby Brewster) also faces domestic battery and assault charges after a dispute involving Megan Williams in July." What is this supposed to mean? Has anybody else picked up on this?!!

It would seem to me, by the inclusion of this infromation/statement, that these loosers (or at least "Bobby") has had some previous contact with the victim! Domestic battery and assault charges from back in JULY would lead one to believe there is a past history or contact/relationship between them.

Why haven''t we heard about this in previous articles. The way that this has been covered so far is that this was supposedly just some disgustingly horrific RANDOM act of inhumanity. What aren''t they telling the public and why? For sensationalism? To whip up a public furor?

There seems to be more to the story then we are being "fed".
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by radiob-2009 September 13, 2007 12:26 PM PDT
Yes, this is what I was implying. Good to see that subtlety is not lost on all.

Posted by FeelFree1


Both of you are referring to a minority of our service men. This story is not about Iraq nor Bush. These idiots would exist with or without either. You do not critique the whole cart as being bad apples when it is just a few. Perhaps other''s found your post to be "sublte".
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by prinzowhales September 13, 2007 12:27 PM PDT
Maybe they''ll put these residents of the state represented in prison with the black Tennesseans who tortured, raped, sodomized, and then murdered the young white couple in Knoxville a few months ago--which amazingly didn''t even get the poor-sighted eye of CBS to give a scant glance...yet day after day this story stays up...
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 12:29 PM PDT
TOLD ALL OF YOU WE ARE THE WORLD RAINBOW COALITION RETARDS THAT THE WOMAN WAS A PROSTITUTE, TURNS OUT I WAS RIGHT! YOU WERE WRONG!

"ROMANTICALLY INVOLVED"
Posted by darkmeat4 at 12:21 PM : Sep 13, 2007


Why a prostitute? did she get paid? Or like most women, did she just ''give it away for free?" Sexxxx and romance are 2 different issues--but even if true--you imply that in order for a white man to get sexxx from a black woman--he has to pay for it. Is that what you mean?

Whatever the case or the relationship--involvement with one man does not constitute permission for a gang bang, being held hostage and tortured. Well, Megan IF you were "romantically involved with Bobby Brewster"---guess you now know--Bobby did not really like you as much as you thought he did...............
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by infidel_us September 13, 2007 12:30 PM PDT
I''d still like to know why CBS never said a word about the 5 blacks who raped, beat, tortured, burned, and murdered a white couple in TN a few months ago.

This is the 3rd or 4th day we''re being treated to this story. Perhaps they just don''t understand the ''culture'' of the white man. Until you are ''down with the struggle'', there''s no way you can intelligently comment.
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by ladyjaneg September 13, 2007 12:32 PM PDT
Who cares what her job was? She doens''t deeserve to be treated like that, darkmeat. Of course, I hope you''re proud of yourself for saying "nyah, nyah, nyah" and acting liek a five year old.

I didn''t know Hindus were blue-black coloured. All the ones I''ve seen are different shades of brown. But I really really really agree with what your post is saying, toldyouso.
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 12:34 PM PDT
Why haven''''t we heard about this in previous articles. The way that this has been covered so far is that this was supposedly just some disgustingly horrific RANDOM act of inhumanity. What aren''''t they telling the public and why? For sensationalism? To whip up a public furor?

There seems to be more to the story then we are being "fed".
Posted by Augustus131 at 12:26 PM : Sep 13, 2007


This fact was in every version of this story that I have ever read. Including the version where Bobby''s mom forced the girl to lick various parts of her body. This is probably how she was tricked into going to their home--given that it also was mentioned that she might be slightly retarded (she was in special ed) it is no mean trick to win her trust if she had a previous relationship with her.

On the other hand, domestic violence, is not always sexual. She could have been lured into his home or in his yard and been mistreated. If no crime is committed beyond hearsay--it is called domestic violence. For instance, if you come to my house and I for some reason, slap you--THAT is assault and domestic violence. some people want to grasp at straws--no matter the previous relationship--the mom lied about the girl being held and she was tortured in many ways. That is not disputable.
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by nwihoosier September 13, 2007 12:37 PM PDT
The poor slob feelyfreely is just looking for attention again...and he got it! I suppose the type of negative attention he now gets makes up for not getting any as a kid. Let''s hope he finds his medication.
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by feelfree1 September 13, 2007 12:37 PM PDT

radiob,

Re: "Both of you are referring to a minority of our service men."

You can minimize it as you like. I see it as a significant problem, and one that is not being dealt with adequately.

Re: "This story is not about Iraq nor Bush."

I saw an opportunity for some dark humor. Obviously a few people were interested in my comment, and I successfully highlighted an issue that is important to me.

Iraq is the poster child for our collapsuing society, in my opinion. Crime and punishment are definitely related.
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 12:38 PM PDT
Both of you are referring to a minority of our service men. This story is not about Iraq nor Bush. These idiots would exist with or without either. You do not critique the whole cart as being bad apples when it is just a few. Perhaps other''''s found your post to be "sublte".
Posted by radiob at 12:26 PM : Sep 13, 2007


Actually, you or I don''t KNOW how many service men this refers to. But THIS story is referring to a fraction of our country men. Not all southern whites who live in trailers act this way--in both cases there is a rush to pigeonhole and make a point--which is precisely my point. No one condemned all soldiers but then again, no one should condemn all poor white southerners either. Same game, different approach. As for these people--they are evil--stop trying to act like any part of this country is HOLY and cannot be criticized. From Presidents to grunts--they are just people--some good some bad--all subject to scrutiny and yes discussion. It is not sacrilege. Save your super psuedo patriotism and self righteousness for the Iraq blogs.
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 12:42 PM PDT
I didn''''t know Hindus were blue-black coloured. All the ones I''''ve seen are different shades of brown. But I really really really agree with what your post is saying, toldyouso.
Posted by LadyJaneG at 12:32 PM : Sep 13, 2007


Thank you--I was referring to many of the Bangledeshis--some of their people have skin that can be very, very black--almost blue--, yet they will still have straight thin noses and straight, silky hair--(2 other traits of caucasian) Of course, then there are the many vibrantly very curly headed arabians--all kinds. The term Caucasian originally referred to the demographics of a certain group of people who lived or originated in the region of the Caucas mountains and Asia minor.
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by September 13, 2007 12:45 PM PDT
We always get down to color, don''t we?

Color had nothing to do with it. Ignorance, depravity, poverity, immorality and criminality had everything to do with it. BTW, I''m a black woman saying this.

If there were only one race/color of people on this planet, those people would find a way to degrade a so-called underclass within them by size, shape or hair color. It''s human nature to do this when folks are plain ignorant with low self-esteem. It''s the bully factor in its ugliest form.

Why we mickey mouse with criminals like this is beyond me. Rather than waste taxpayer dollars with long, drawn out trials, only to house these idiots for years to feed and babysit them, why not do what they do in some countries? Cut off the fingers that steal...cut off the *** that rapes...cut out the tongue that lies...let the victim''s family beat the perps to death...

We would still have crimes, but they would be far, far less. If a perp knows the penalty he faces, he''ll think 3 and 4 times before he does something stupid. We''d also save a bundle of money...

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by ladyjaneg September 13, 2007 12:46 PM PDT
Oh I understand now! Thank you for taking the time to explain.
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by toldyouso21 September 13, 2007 12:48 PM PDT
I didn''''t know Hindus were blue-black coloured. All the ones I''''ve seen are different shades of brown.
Posted by LadyJaneG at 12:32 PM : Sep 13, 2007

I should have been more explicit here and named a people by ethnicity or area and not religion. There are Hindus of all races and many Indians that are lighter than many "white Americans" Like Iraqis and Iranians, they run the gamut from extremely pale to very dark--even in Iraq and Iran, right now, you will note that some of the kids have blonde hair and blue or other light colored eyes, IN fact, this anamoly also occurs in Africa among black tribes, this is because the gene pool is essentially a toss of the dice. If it is in there, it may come out. The odds increase in favor of certain traits if they are bred in longer. Dominant gene theory. Yep. Some Indians (From Calcutta or elsewhere) can be extremely dark.
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by sy2502 September 13, 2007 1:02 PM PDT
mariony,
thank you for your comment, finally somebody who calls things for what they are, regardless of color. We need more people like you. Moreover the article says that those 6 cockroaches had accumulated 108 criminal charges in total: what were they doing free out there? Why don''t we lock these repeated offenders away for good?
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by nlm2383 September 13, 2007 1:06 PM PDT
Frankie Brewster charged with murder in 1994, served 5 years. WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM??? Don''''t get it.
Posted by ssm9451 at 10:31 AM : Sep 13, 2007

Frankie Brewster was charged in 1994 with first-degree murder, but pleaded guilty to lesser charges of manslaughter and wanton endangerment.

They "struck a deal" with a murderer. Sad to see that they let her go once. Maybe they''ll get smart this time and put her in prision for life w/o parole.
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