9 U.S. Soldiers Dead In Iraq

Meanwhile, Al-Maliki Says Iraqi Forces Not Ready To Take Over Security From U.S. Military

(CBS/AP)  Nine U.S. soldiers died in Iraq, the military said Monday, including seven in a vehicle accident during a prisoner transport in Baghdad, the U.S. command said. Two of the prisoners also died.

The seven Multinational Division - Baghdad soldiers were killed and 11 others wounded in a western section of the capital, the military said in a statement. Two prisoners detained previously and being transported were killed in the accident, and a third was injured, the military said.

The military said it did not immediately have further details.

Another soldier was killed and two more were injured east of Baghdad in a non-combat incident when their vehicle overturned and caught fire, according to a separate statement.

The cause of both accidents are under investigation, the military said.

A Task Force Lightning soldier also died from injuries sustained during an attack Sunday in northern Iraq, the U.S. command said. The soldier's patrol came under rocket fire in the Kirkuk area.

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki told lawmakers Monday that Iraqi forces were not ready to take over security from the U.S. military across the country.

"There have been tangible improvements in security in the recent period in Baghdad and the provinces but it is not enough," he told parliament. "Despite the security improvement, we still need more efforts and time in order for our armed forces to be able to take over security in all Iraqi provinces from the multinational forces that helped us in a great way in fighting terrorism and outlaws."

Al-Maliki made the comment hours before the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Ryan Crocker, and top U.S. commander Gen. David Petraeus were to appear in the U.S. Congress to deliver reports on Iraq's progress amid a debate over calls to start bringing American troops home.

The two Americans were widely expected to maintain that this year's troop buildup has reduced violent attacks in Baghdad and argue for more time to restore security.

Al-Maliki said that violence had dropped 75 percent in the Baghdad area since the U.S. began pouring in additional troops at the start of the year. He gave no figures.

"The key to reconstruction, economic development and improving peoples' standard of living is security," he said.

Still, attacks in the capital have picked up in recent days in the run-up to the report and as the Muslim holy month of Ramadan nears, a time when violence usually spikes higher.

CBS News chief foreign correspondent Lara Logan reports that most Iraqi citizens seem to disagree with the positive assessments of the troop surge.

"You only have to look at the number of Iraqis trying to flee the country every day to know they don't feel safer," Logan said on CBS' Early Show. "They don't believe any gains being made in security are enduring."

Evidence of Iraqi citizens' lack of confidence in improvements heralded by the U.S. military was also reported Monday by the British Broadcasting Corporation.

A poll of about 2,000 ordinary Iraqis by the BBC, in conjunction with ABC News and Japan's NHK, found that 70 percent believe security in the area covered by the troop surge has deteriorated in the last six months.

Sixty-percent of those polled also said attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq were justified.

In Other Developments:

U.S. and Iraqi troops backed by helicopters killed three civilians Monday in the Shiite area of Sadr City in a pre-dawn raid on the home of a suspected militia leader, police and residents said. Ground forces searched four houses but failed to find the suspect, U.S. spokesman Lt. Col. Scott Bleichwehl said. He identified the suspect only as "a criminal militia special group commander," a term associated with splinter factions of anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army.

In the Sunni city of Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad, U.S. and Iraqi troops got into a fierce firefight with suspected al Qaeda in Iraq fighters in a morning assault. Twelve of the insurgents were killed and three U.S. soldiers were wounded, the military said in a statement. Three al Qaeda suspects were also detained, while a fourth person at the scene was identified as a hostage being held for ransom. The injured soldiers were taken to Balad Air Base for treatment and were all in stable condition, the U.S. military said.

The U.S. command announced that a U.S. soldier, whose patrol in the Kirkuk area was hit with rockets on Sunday, had died from injuries sustained in the attack. Further details were not immediately available.

Three former Saddam regime officials can be executed without presidential decrees because of the scale of their crimes, a judicial official said Monday. Defense Minister Sultan Hashim Ahmad al-Tai was convicted along with Saddam's cousin "Chemical Ali" al-Majid and Hussein Rashid Mohammed, former deputy operations director of the Iraqi armed forces, of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity for their role in the massacre of thousands of Kurds two decades ago. President Jalal Talabani said he had reservations about hanging former Iraqi army officers who were acting under threat of death from Saddam.

President Bush's war strategy is failing and the top military commander in Iraq is "dead flat wrong" for warning against major changes, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said Sunday. Ahead of Monday's crucial testimony by Bush's leading military and political advisers on Iraq, Sen. Joseph Biden indicated that he and other Democrats would persist in efforts to set target dates for bringing troops home.

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by closethippy1 September 11, 2007 7:40 PM EDT

There sure are some fine crazy people ''round here!

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by finewoven September 11, 2007 6:21 PM EDT

concentrating on routing and defeating this invader who dared to come in and force us down a path we never go to decide on.
Posted by toldyouso21 at 02:28 PM : Sep 11, 2007

Again--the same historical perspective must be kept in mind, Iraq as a country didn''t exist 100 years ago. Invading is being misconstrued with emancipating, and if you (the people of Iraq) don''t have the foundation to make good on your emancipating, it appears like an invasion. This is not like our manifest destiny from sea to shining sea, which meant the elimination of the native people who were squatting on our future lands(sic). Iraq is not going to be like Puerto Rico, Guam, Virgin Islands, or any of their other 16 territories of the U.S. They will keep their sovereignty.

But my belief that we don''t need to be there, goes hand in hand with--we didn''t need to create that country to begin with.

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by toldyouso21 September 11, 2007 5:34 PM EDT

ADDENDUM:

"Nothing like ''''freedom'''' imposed at the point of a gun, drop of a bomb or over 170,000 foreigners in your country ordering you about--AND KILLING, TORTURING OR IMPRISONING ALL WHO RESIST THEM. YEP. THAT''S FREEDUMMM ALL RIGHT.
Posted by toldyouso21 at 02:32 PM : Sep 11, 2007

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by toldyouso21 September 11, 2007 5:32 PM EDT

We gave Iraqis "FREE DUMMM" to do anything except live the way the want, with the government that they want (Al Maliki was NEVER elected he was appointed 1 yr after the elections) and they also do not get to decide what they can live and die for.

All of those choices are done by the invading and occupying army of the US that claims to have "FREED" them. Nothing like ''freedom'' imposed at the point of a gun, drop of a bomb or over 170,000 foreigners in your country ordering you about.

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by toldyouso21 September 11, 2007 5:28 PM EDT

The thing about liberty is, you have the right to make mistakes. Remember, for us, this liberty came during the Enlightenment, and had a foundation of the Magna Carta, prior to the Declaration of Independence. But liberty doesn%u2019t make us perfect, we suffered a terrible Civil War of our own too. It does allow us to choose to not make the same mistakes again though.
Posted by finewoven at 02:14 PM : Sep 11, 2007

The biggest difference between our fight for liberty and Iraqs is that no one invaded the US and imposed this fight on us. There might have been a very different outcome if say, the French or Spanish had invaded America, started killing Americans and the British, then told us they were freeing us and we had an obligation to help them finish conquering us and get the British out.

I''d lay very big odds--that in such a scenario, we''d have put our beef with England aside for the moment and concentrating on routing and defeating this invader who dared to come in and force us down a path we never go to decide on. Consider that. Iraqis never had a choice to opt for either democracy or in living or dying for our version of ''freeing them'' never has something so noble and good been perverted so thoroughly as the concept of "FREE dom" and what we have visited upon that country.

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by toldyouso21 September 11, 2007 5:24 PM EDT

Asking Patreaus if the surge is working, is like asking a compulsive gambler/or gambling addict if he really thinks his "big win" can happen with his next bet! LMAO

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by finewoven September 11, 2007 5:14 PM EDT

The Iraqi people have ever right to defend themselves against the brutal and illegal invaders of their country, and that is what we are seeing, and who our agents are fighting, torturing, and killing, not some imaginary "TERRA" group.
Posted by FeelFree1 at 07:53 PM : Sep 10, 2007

Sorry FeelFree1, I''ve been out-of-pocket for the last 24hrs. But you seem to not have the perspective of the history there. The Ottoman Empire, divided up after the World Wars, and also the U.S. placed Saddam in power, mainly because he "seemed" moderate. I suppose he may have been in consideration to many others in that part of the world. I accept that our reasoning for going into Iraq was flawed, and that some unseasoned American soldiers did some terrible things. I also accept that the best made plan fail, not to say that ulterior motives where included in the plan that made it more messy. BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE PRESIDENT BUSH IS ANYTHING MORE THAN A NORMAL, PRONE TO ERROR HUMAN BEING. He does not have the characteristics of a demigod as you seem to suggest.

The thing about liberty is, you have the right to make mistakes. Remember, for us, this liberty came during the Enlightenment, and had a foundation of the Magna Carta, prior to the Declaration of Independence. But liberty doesn%u2019t make us perfect, we suffered a terrible Civil War of our own too. It does allow us to choose to not make the same mistakes again though.

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by starleo146 September 11, 2007 4:10 PM EDT

I hear a lot of rhetoric on Move-On-.org and what they printed has any one heard the last 7 years what Faux Nooze has to say EVERY DAY 24 HOURS A DAY 365 DAYS A YEAR. So ONE PAGE IN A NEWSPAPER WHO HAPPEN TO BELEIVE THIS IS A FLAWED REPORT BY PATRAEUS DUD!!!!

THIS NEWS service has been a propaganda SOURCE for George Bush since day 1 so I think everyone who are being so judgmental should just look at both sides.

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by starleo146 September 11, 2007 4:00 PM EDT

If Patraeus wants to keep his job he will say in a round about way what the Commander-in chief wants him to say I think he is a good general the best we have had on the ground but he painted a very bleak picture and I personally am not willing to give Iraq another 5 years for anything and he also reports to the Pentagon who reports to the commander-in-chief so what kind of report do you think you are going to get more of what the commander-in-chief wants plain and simple. Nothing because of the % of the House versus democrats and republicans until the election changes this % can we(democrats )do anything unless they keep stalling this vote till the republicans get scared of this election and they better vote or stand a chance not to be reelected I believe we will get a better vote.

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by starleo146 September 11, 2007 3:47 PM EDT

Posted by winnerindia at 02:14 AM : Sep 11, 2007

Thank Goodness you are not in any office of these United States. I got a better idea YOU go and fight for Bush.

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by toldyouso21 September 11, 2007 3:32 PM EDT

Questions that should have been asked of Patreaus:

1. What was Bush''s stated rationale for the surge and what it was to accomplish?

2. The first date to measure success was given as Spring 2007, then Summer 2007, then Fall 2007 and now Winter 2008 with true success slated for 2 to 4 years away or longer, why does the date for even gauging success not stable and keep getting further away?

3.. As violence went down in Iraq, Did it escalate elsewhere and how do those numbers differ or compare?

4. IN 2004, Patreaus was quoting as saying the signs of improvement in Iraq were very good and success was around the corner. Mr. Patreaus your assessment was not accurate then, why should we believe it now?

5. Is the political process in Iraq better or worse since 2006?

6. Various factions want Al Maliki to resign and there are talks of new elections or coups, how has our surged helped that process?

7. What is the state of the infrastructure? Has it improved since 2006? Anywhere?

We already know the answer to that and the answer is No real, sustained progress has been made. As for Anbar...it, Fallujah and other cities are calmed, stabilized and lost on a quarterly basis and have been so since 2003.

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by closethippy1 September 11, 2007 1:41 PM EDT

"Good job George!! You have tied a millstone around our necks for decades to come. Iraq will be syphoning off money that should be used for healthcare, education, the environment for years and years." Posted by Clestes.

Ever since Ronald Reagan became president I''ve been under the strong impression that the Republicans and conservatives'' job is to come up with all sorts of foreign policy crisis so to purposedly take money away from social programs most people need.
It''s obvious that these folks just hate government and the role it plays in helping people. They subscribe to a century old philosophy developed in the old Europe that says government''s ONLY job is security, security, security.
And to hell with everyone else regardless of their problems.
It''s a way for the rich to make more money, have more control, be less accountable, and show their disdain for everyone who''s out of luck.
Bush and Co. beam this sort of cynicism. They want to hold everyone else accountable except themselves.

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by clestes-2009 September 11, 2007 1:29 PM EDT

Al-Maliki is scared to death of US troops leaving. He knows they are the only thing standing between him and death or fleeing for his life.

We are never going to be free of Iraq.

Good job George!! You have tied a millstone around our necks for decades to come. Iraq will be syphoning off money that should be used for healthcare, education, the environment for years and years.

You are going down as the dumbest, most arrogant, most blubberheaded idiot in US history. You hope history remembers you as a great leader. History will remember you as the president that lost America the place as world leader through your unending STUPIDITY.

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by sgtrds September 11, 2007 1:09 PM EDT

I pay tribute to those who worked for us and are no longer among us but it happens in war. We should be with patience not in panic.

Posted by winnerindia at 02:14 AM : Sep 11, 2007

So when does your unit ship out? Or perhaps your kid''s unit? Ready to have yourself or them die for Bush? To be sacrificed on the alter of his stupidity, ego and madness?

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by lars008-2009 September 11, 2007 12:14 PM EDT

I do not lie, cheat, or steal, nor tolerate those who do.
Posted by nancy_naive at 08:29 AM : Sep 11, 2007

you sure tell a lot of lies here naive... lol

i guess you won''t be voting for the klintoons then... hahaha

"Everybody in politics lies, but they [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it%u2019s troubling,%u201D Geffen said.
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Hillary Clinton''s Former Campaign Finance Director Indicted
http://www.wnbc.com/politics/4063107/detail.html
hillary lies
But a Hillary Tale About Her Childhood
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Hillary''s "Feminist Problem"
The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady
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Watergate reporter demolishes Hillary%u2019s career story
reveal a number of %u201Cdiscrepancies%u201D in her official story.
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hahahaha people paying to listen to an admitted, proven, convicted, impeached, disbarred liar%u2026lol
For Clinton, New Wealth In Speeches
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17263999/

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by lars008-2009 September 11, 2007 12:08 PM EDT

CHINESE OWN DEMONIC-RATS AND BUY THEM THE ELECTIONS!!!

The tale of shady Chinese Clinton donors avoiding U.S. justice is a familiar one that dates back to the 1996 Clinton-Gore fundraising scandal known as Chinagate. The Clintons took millions in laundered foreign campaign donations from Chinese Communists in exchange for liberalizing trade policy with China, dropping pending indictments against influential Chinese figures, spots on a U.S. trade mission and overnight stays at the White House.
Many of the Chinagate donors were successfully prosecuted even though Clinton Attorney General Janet Reno blocked investigators%u2019 efforts at the Justice Department. More than 100 people connected to the fundraising scandal fled the country, however. Norman Hsu seems to be following their lead.
http://www.corruptionchronicles.com/2007/09/hillary_donor_flees_like_china.html

and you thought gonzales was bad...

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by mcvet September 11, 2007 9:29 AM EDT

Mr. President, lets send there 100,000 more troops. I am confident that at the end of the day, we will win.
I pay tribute to those who worked for us and are no longer among us but it happens in war. We should be with patience not in panic.
Posted by winnerindia at 02:14 AM : Sep 11, 2007

ROFLMAO Right!! If WE had listened to you clowns we''d still be hearing that we''re "Winning" and that the "Insurgency is on it''s last legs". Sparky when your OWN Intel tells you not only that you attacked a nation that posed NO threat to you AND that your real enemy has used that attack to COMPLETELY rebuild, it''s TIME to act! When those who you do not agree with have been right for DAY ONE about this administration, maybe it''s time to look in a DIFFERENT Direction. After almost 5 years I''d say America has had Patients applenty... what we have NOT had is competent leadership. Sieg Heil Bush!!

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by oakishpines September 11, 2007 7:24 AM EDT

'' ... trillion dollar empires always rape more babies than their two dollar empire neighbors, it''s not a question of if the good generals will be found guilty, it is a question of when ... ''

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by tbweb September 11, 2007 7:11 AM EDT

drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip ...

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by feelfree1 September 11, 2007 6:38 AM EDT

winnerindia,

Why do you hate America?

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[closethippy1]

There sure are some fine crazy people ''round here!

[finewoven]

concentrating on routing and defeating this invader who dared to come in and force us down a path we never go to decide on.
Posted by toldyouso21 at 02:28 PM : Sep 11, 2007

Again--the same historical perspective must be kept in mind, Iraq as a country didn''t exist 100 years ago. Invading is being misconstrued with emancipating, and if you (the people of Iraq) don''t have the foundation to make good on your emancipating, it appears like an invasion. This is not like our manifest destiny from sea to shining sea, which meant the elimination of the native people who were squatting on our future lands(sic). Iraq is not going to be like Puerto Rico, Guam, Virgin Islands, or any of their other 16 territories of the U.S. They will keep their sovereignty.

But my belief that we don''t need to be there, goes hand in hand with--we didn''t need to create that country to begin with.

[toldyouso21]

ADDENDUM:

"Nothing like ''''freedom'''' imposed at the point of a gun, drop of a bomb or over 170,000 foreigners in your country ordering you about--AND KILLING, TORTURING OR IMPRISONING ALL WHO RESIST THEM. YEP. THAT''S FREEDUMMM ALL RIGHT.
Posted by toldyouso21 at 02:32 PM : Sep 11, 2007

[toldyouso21]

We gave Iraqis "FREE DUMMM" to do anything except live the way the want, with the government that they want (Al Maliki was NEVER elected he was appointed 1 yr after the elections) and they also do not get to decide what they can live and die for.

All of those choices are done by the invading and occupying army of the US that claims to have "FREED" them. Nothing like ''freedom'' imposed at the point of a gun, drop of a bomb or over 170,000 foreigners in your country ordering you about.

[toldyouso21]

The thing about liberty is, you have the right to make mistakes. Remember, for us, this liberty came during the Enlightenment, and had a foundation of the Magna Carta, prior to the Declaration of Independence. But liberty doesn%u2019t make us perfect, we suffered a terrible Civil War of our own too. It does allow us to choose to not make the same mistakes again though.
Posted by finewoven at 02:14 PM : Sep 11, 2007

The biggest difference between our fight for liberty and Iraqs is that no one invaded the US and imposed this fight on us. There might have been a very different outcome if say, the French or Spanish had invaded America, started killing Americans and the British, then told us they were freeing us and we had an obligation to help them finish conquering us and get the British out.

I''d lay very big odds--that in such a scenario, we''d have put our beef with England aside for the moment and concentrating on routing and defeating this invader who dared to come in and force us down a path we never go to decide on. Consider that. Iraqis never had a choice to opt for either democracy or in living or dying for our version of ''freeing them'' never has something so noble and good been perverted so thoroughly as the concept of "FREE dom" and what we have visited upon that country.

[toldyouso21]

Asking Patreaus if the surge is working, is like asking a compulsive gambler/or gambling addict if he really thinks his "big win" can happen with his next bet! LMAO

[finewoven]

The Iraqi people have ever right to defend themselves against the brutal and illegal invaders of their country, and that is what we are seeing, and who our agents are fighting, torturing, and killing, not some imaginary "TERRA" group.
Posted by FeelFree1 at 07:53 PM : Sep 10, 2007

Sorry FeelFree1, I''ve been out-of-pocket for the last 24hrs. But you seem to not have the perspective of the history there. The Ottoman Empire, divided up after the World Wars, and also the U.S. placed Saddam in power, mainly because he "seemed" moderate. I suppose he may have been in consideration to many others in that part of the world. I accept that our reasoning for going into Iraq was flawed, and that some unseasoned American soldiers did some terrible things. I also accept that the best made plan fail, not to say that ulterior motives where included in the plan that made it more messy. BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE PRESIDENT BUSH IS ANYTHING MORE THAN A NORMAL, PRONE TO ERROR HUMAN BEING. He does not have the characteristics of a demigod as you seem to suggest.

The thing about liberty is, you have the right to make mistakes. Remember, for us, this liberty came during the Enlightenment, and had a foundation of the Magna Carta, prior to the Declaration of Independence. But liberty doesn%u2019t make us perfect, we suffered a terrible Civil War of our own too. It does allow us to choose to not make the same mistakes again though.

[starleo146]

I hear a lot of rhetoric on Move-On-.org and what they printed has any one heard the last 7 years what Faux Nooze has to say EVERY DAY 24 HOURS A DAY 365 DAYS A YEAR. So ONE PAGE IN A NEWSPAPER WHO HAPPEN TO BELEIVE THIS IS A FLAWED REPORT BY PATRAEUS DUD!!!!

THIS NEWS service has been a propaganda SOURCE for George Bush since day 1 so I think everyone who are being so judgmental should just look at both sides.

[starleo146]

If Patraeus wants to keep his job he will say in a round about way what the Commander-in chief wants him to say I think he is a good general the best we have had on the ground but he painted a very bleak picture and I personally am not willing to give Iraq another 5 years for anything and he also reports to the Pentagon who reports to the commander-in-chief so what kind of report do you think you are going to get more of what the commander-in-chief wants plain and simple. Nothing because of the % of the House versus democrats and republicans until the election changes this % can we(democrats )do anything unless they keep stalling this vote till the republicans get scared of this election and they better vote or stand a chance not to be reelected I believe we will get a better vote.

[starleo146]

Posted by winnerindia at 02:14 AM : Sep 11, 2007

Thank Goodness you are not in any office of these United States. I got a better idea YOU go and fight for Bush.

[toldyouso21]

Questions that should have been asked of Patreaus:

1. What was Bush''s stated rationale for the surge and what it was to accomplish?

2. The first date to measure success was given as Spring 2007, then Summer 2007, then Fall 2007 and now Winter 2008 with true success slated for 2 to 4 years away or longer, why does the date for even gauging success not stable and keep getting further away?

3.. As violence went down in Iraq, Did it escalate elsewhere and how do those numbers differ or compare?

4. IN 2004, Patreaus was quoting as saying the signs of improvement in Iraq were very good and success was around the corner. Mr. Patreaus your assessment was not accurate then, why should we believe it now?

5. Is the political process in Iraq better or worse since 2006?

6. Various factions want Al Maliki to resign and there are talks of new elections or coups, how has our surged helped that process?

7. What is the state of the infrastructure? Has it improved since 2006? Anywhere?

We already know the answer to that and the answer is No real, sustained progress has been made. As for Anbar...it, Fallujah and other cities are calmed, stabilized and lost on a quarterly basis and have been so since 2003.

[closethippy1]

"Good job George!! You have tied a millstone around our necks for decades to come. Iraq will be syphoning off money that should be used for healthcare, education, the environment for years and years." Posted by Clestes.

Ever since Ronald Reagan became president I''ve been under the strong impression that the Republicans and conservatives'' job is to come up with all sorts of foreign policy crisis so to purposedly take money away from social programs most people need.
It''s obvious that these folks just hate government and the role it plays in helping people. They subscribe to a century old philosophy developed in the old Europe that says government''s ONLY job is security, security, security.
And to hell with everyone else regardless of their problems.
It''s a way for the rich to make more money, have more control, be less accountable, and show their disdain for everyone who''s out of luck.
Bush and Co. beam this sort of cynicism. They want to hold everyone else accountable except themselves.

[clestes-2009]

Al-Maliki is scared to death of US troops leaving. He knows they are the only thing standing between him and death or fleeing for his life.

We are never going to be free of Iraq.

Good job George!! You have tied a millstone around our necks for decades to come. Iraq will be syphoning off money that should be used for healthcare, education, the environment for years and years.

You are going down as the dumbest, most arrogant, most blubberheaded idiot in US history. You hope history remembers you as a great leader. History will remember you as the president that lost America the place as world leader through your unending STUPIDITY.

[sgtrds]

I pay tribute to those who worked for us and are no longer among us but it happens in war. We should be with patience not in panic.

Posted by winnerindia at 02:14 AM : Sep 11, 2007

So when does your unit ship out? Or perhaps your kid''s unit? Ready to have yourself or them die for Bush? To be sacrificed on the alter of his stupidity, ego and madness?

[lars008-2009]

I do not lie, cheat, or steal, nor tolerate those who do.
Posted by nancy_naive at 08:29 AM : Sep 11, 2007

you sure tell a lot of lies here naive... lol

i guess you won''t be voting for the klintoons then... hahaha

"Everybody in politics lies, but they [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it%u2019s troubling,%u201D Geffen said.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003548043
Hillary Clinton''s Former Campaign Finance Director Indicted
http://www.wnbc.com/politics/4063107/detail.html
hillary lies
But a Hillary Tale About Her Childhood
http://hillaryspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTE3OTBlZWUxMTI0NjVjZDhkNTExYTc3NWJiZTE4ODI=
Hillary''s "Feminist Problem"
The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/15/opinion/main2934136.shtml
Watergate reporter demolishes Hillary%u2019s career story
reveal a number of %u201Cdiscrepancies%u201D in her official story.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1719879.ece

hahahaha people paying to listen to an admitted, proven, convicted, impeached, disbarred liar%u2026lol
For Clinton, New Wealth In Speeches
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/22/AR2007022202189.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/21/AR2007022100993_pf.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17263999/

[lars008-2009]

CHINESE OWN DEMONIC-RATS AND BUY THEM THE ELECTIONS!!!

The tale of shady Chinese Clinton donors avoiding U.S. justice is a familiar one that dates back to the 1996 Clinton-Gore fundraising scandal known as Chinagate. The Clintons took millions in laundered foreign campaign donations from Chinese Communists in exchange for liberalizing trade policy with China, dropping pending indictments against influential Chinese figures, spots on a U.S. trade mission and overnight stays at the White House.
Many of the Chinagate donors were successfully prosecuted even though Clinton Attorney General Janet Reno blocked investigators%u2019 efforts at the Justice Department. More than 100 people connected to the fundraising scandal fled the country, however. Norman Hsu seems to be following their lead.
http://www.corruptionchronicles.com/2007/09/hillary_donor_flees_like_china.html

and you thought gonzales was bad...

[mcvet]

Mr. President, lets send there 100,000 more troops. I am confident that at the end of the day, we will win.
I pay tribute to those who worked for us and are no longer among us but it happens in war. We should be with patience not in panic.
Posted by winnerindia at 02:14 AM : Sep 11, 2007

ROFLMAO Right!! If WE had listened to you clowns we''d still be hearing that we''re "Winning" and that the "Insurgency is on it''s last legs". Sparky when your OWN Intel tells you not only that you attacked a nation that posed NO threat to you AND that your real enemy has used that attack to COMPLETELY rebuild, it''s TIME to act! When those who you do not agree with have been right for DAY ONE about this administration, maybe it''s time to look in a DIFFERENT Direction. After almost 5 years I''d say America has had Patients applenty... what we have NOT had is competent leadership. Sieg Heil Bush!!

[oakishpines]

'' ... trillion dollar empires always rape more babies than their two dollar empire neighbors, it''s not a question of if the good generals will be found guilty, it is a question of when ... ''

[tbweb]

drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip ...

[feelfree1]

winnerindia,

Why do you hate America?