APEC Sets Goals On Climate Change
Pacific Rim Summit Adopts Agreements On Energy And Global Warming; 3,000 March In Protest, 9 Arrested
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Hundreds protest at the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Sydney, Australia. Security at the summit is the largest operation that has ever been staged in Australia.
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Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, Australian Prime Minister John Howard and U.S. President George W. Bush, from left, pose for photographers prior to their breakfast meeting on the sidelines of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit in Sydney, Australia, Saturday, Sept. 8, 2007. (AP/E. Kennedy Brown, Japan Pool)
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An unidentified man is ordered to back away from police following a disturbance Saturday, Sept. 8, 2007, during a protest demonstration in downtown Sydney, Australia. Thousands gathered to demonstrate against the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit, U.S. President George W. Bush and Australian Prime Minister John Howard. (AP Photo/David Longstreath)
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Some experts and activists dismissed as ineffective the program adopted by the presidents of the United States, China, Russia and leaders of other Asia-Pacific economies at an annual summit - which did not set goals for cutting countries' output of polluting gases.
But it sets a precedent because it applies to all of the group's mix of rich and developing members, and could influence upcoming U.N. negotiations on climate change.
"The world needs to slow, stop and then reverse the growth of global greenhouse gas emissions," the 21 leaders said in the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum's declaration on climate change.
Leaders "charted a new international consensus for the region and the world," summit host Australian Prime Minister John Howard said outside the Sydney Opera House, where the leaders adopted the declaration on the first of two days of talks.
A dozen blocks away and on the other side of a 10-ft. metal fence fortified by concrete barriers and a police cordon, about 3,000 protesters held a colorful, mostly peaceful march and rally. Causes included protests against U.S. President George W. Bush, the Iraq war and ending poverty.
Kerry Nettle, a senator from the Greens party, demanded that the Pacific Rim leaders take "real action" on global warming, drawing cheers. One protester wore a T-shirt that read "Climate Change is not Cool." Another was dressed a polar bear.
Police, who had warned of potential violence and been given special search powers by the local government, had only minor scuffles with demonstrators, arresting 17 protesters. Two officers were also injured, police said.
The APEC climate change program brings together some of the world's powerhouse economies and some of its biggest polluters. As such, it could influence upcoming negotiations before the end of the year in Washington, New York and Indonesia to devise a successor to the U.N.-backed Kyoto Protocol when it expires in 2012.
"If you have APEC, especially the largest emitters - the U.S., China, Russia, Japan - sign up to an agreement like that, it would be hard to ignore at the global level," said Malcolm Cook of Sydney-based think-tank the Lowy Institute.
The program's centerpiece is a goal to reduce "energy intensity" - the amount of energy needed to produce a dollar of gross domestic product - 25 percent by 2030.
The only other concrete goal was to increase forest cover in the region by at least 50 million acres by 2020 - enough to absorb about 11 percent of the greenhouse gases the world emitted in 2004, the final statement said.
Both are nonbinding targets in keeping with APEC's voluntary, consensus-based approach.
Environmental groups and some climate change experts said the agreement was weak.
"In practical terms, that will mean almost nothing," said Frank Jotzo, an Australian National University expert in climate change economics. "It is very unambitious."
The energy intensity target sets a rate that most economies are naturally meeting as they get richer and shift out of power-intensive manufacturing, he said.
"If the APEC statement is the platform for future action on climate change, then the world is in trouble," said Greenpeace energy campaigner Catherine Fitzpatrick.
In the plodding bargaining this past week, officials tried to bridge differences between richer and developing nations.
The targets, a demand of Australia and the U.S., apply to all countries. Under Kyoto, China, India and other developing countries were largely exempted from emissions targets applied to industrial countries. At APEC, developing countries got richer members to reaffirm that they should bear most of the costs in solving global warming.
"In diplomacy, we cannot be 100 percent satisfied because it is a product of negotiations, and in the end we have to live with it," Indonesian Foreign Minister Hassan Wirayuda, whose government had earlier opposed the target, told reporters. "Any product of negotiation, whatever document we call it, it is a product of compromise."
U.S. presidential aide Dan Price said the APEC declaration was a "very ambitious statement" that forged "quite a bold new direction" on climate change.
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But it will never be enforced, therefore is totally meaningless.
of humility. its samurai saturday here
in southern california. samurai movies
come on sometimes today, on saturday.
its the sabbath for some. stay in bed all day.
international date line. its charlotte tilt''s
birthday. she just turned 81. she was a radio
star in new york city. her husband bob thiele
changed to tilt, saved new york city from
nazi saboteurs. his cousin in germany who
he cajoled let him know about the coming landings
through the mail. bob went to the f.b.i. he
was almost put in the nuthouse for doing that.
but then ''they believed''. nice photo, kennedy
brown and japan pool. nice shooting. thanks
princess masako. and hana mori. and all their
children. monroe doctrines. truman doctrines.
much scientific dogma and doctrine. why no
polar bears at the south pole though? why
only at the north pole? operation infinite
justice may become operation infinite mercy.
we hope so.
'' ... it''s difficult for me to imagine any girl with savage naked men in the family running around telliung everyone to make all the savage naked men disappear, unless she has some personal grievance with such, but how many have such personal grievances and of those that do how may would actionally take such recourse, not many ... and besides, while having the savage naked men disappear today, assuming it can be done, and though it doesn''t gaurantteee that girls will be next, but it does greatly improve the odds that girls will be next, such that there is very little difference in preaching have the men removed and preaching have the girls removed ... and i just don''t see that as a real and serious and sensible threat to be concerned with ... ''
http://www.dnaco.net/~vogelk
e/pictures/when-cloning-goes-wrong/
The above statement by Dan Price is so ambiguous that I give him a A+ for the perfect Presidential response to an agreement that he does not agree with and will not actually participate in when he gets back to America. Bush''s body language in the picture tells it all.
Also, with the greenhouse gas emissions as one subject of this meeting in Australia, how many of these high rollers (politicians and lobbiests) rowed their own canoe to the meeting? You mean they arrived by private jets and Air Force One? I guess we know where they really stand on this subject.
Posted by barbaraf4 at 08:48 AM : Sep 08, 2007
GOOD POINT YOU MAKE
Probably non of them did just like the man made global warming crowd. Guess that tells you where AL Gore and company stand too huh?
non muslims of the world unite... fight against the tyranny of the fascist nazi terrorslam imperialist empire of the darkside...
I was a fanatic...I know their thinking, says former radical Islamist
By blaming the Government for our actions, those who pushed this "Blair''s bombs" line did our propaganda work for us.
More important, they also helped to draw away any critical examination from the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770
Bless the Beasts and Children
Fascist nazi terrorslam kills every man woman and child in the village again%u2026 typical mo for terrorslam%u2026
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/bless-the-beasts-and-children.htm
Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20arabia%20pagan
the truth about fascist nazi terrorislam...
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what-really-happened/
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what
-really-happened/
Posted by lars008 at 08:54 AM : Sep 08, 2007
Got anything to say about climate change?
Posted by jowand at 08:56 AM : Sep 08, 2007
it''s a non issue... a red herring... there has always been climate change and there will always be climate change.... adapt or die like the dinosaurs...
Breaking: Less Than Half of all Published Scientists Endorse Global Warming Theory
SURVEY: LESS THAN HALF OF ALL PUBLISHED SCIENTISTS ENDORSE GLOBAL WARMING THEORY; COMPREHENSIVE SURVEY OF PUBLISHED CLIMATE RESEARCH REVEALS CHANGING VIEWPOINTS
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=b35c36a3-802a-23ad-46ec-6880767e7966
Posted by jowand
Do you think running around crying out that the sky is falling should remind you of anything?
Certainly, its still up there....
add this to your list
Former Prime Minister Tony Blair, in one of his speeches arguing in favor of invading Iraq, he explained the dilemma something to this effect:
Let%u2019s say one day you go to a man%u2019s home and enter his bedroom. In the top drawer of his night table you find a gun, which he admits he owns. Now let%u2019s say a month later you go to that same man%u2019s house and go to his bedroom. You look in the dresser drawer and the gun isn%u2019t there. You ask him %u201Cwhere%u2019s the gun?%u201D If he says, %u201Cwhat gun? I don%u2019t know anything about a gun,%u201D you can%u2019t just say %u201COk%u201D and take his word for it. He had the gun before, so one of two things happened. Either he still has the gun and hid it somewhere, or he disposed of the gun, in which case he should be able to explain how he disposed of it. But in no case, can you conclude that the gun never existed in the first place.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=26457045-1E9E-4795-9D31-0E5B73E74EE9
Former Prime Minister Tony Blair, in one of his speeches arguing in favor of invading Iraq, he explained the dilemma something to this effect:
Let%u2019s say one day you go to a man%u2019s home and enter his bedroom. In the top drawer of his night table you find a gun, which he admits he owns. Now let%u2019s say a month later you go to that same man%u2019s house and go to his bedroom. You look in the dresser drawer and the gun isn%u2019t there. You ask him %u201Cwhere%u2019s the gun?%u201D If he says, %u201Cwhat gun? I don%u2019t know anything about a gun,%u201D you can%u2019t just say %u201COk%u201D and take his word for it. He had the gun before, so one of two things happened. Either he still has the gun and hid it somewhere, or he disposed of the gun, in which case he should be able to explain how he disposed of it. But in no case, can you conclude that the gun never existed in the first place.
Yet, that is exactly what Saddam Hussein did, and somehow the left still found him credible. Bush must be the one who lied!
This is the question: since at some point Saddam Hussein admitted that he had stockpiles of WMD, how could he have subsequently made them vanish into thin air without a trace, without documentation, without evidence of destruction, without residual contamination, and without witnesses?
They may have a view that they can solve the problems of resource exhaustion and global warming by allowing a global human die off to develop.
Many of our leaders actions are consistent with this possibility.
Industrial leaders may see humans as obsolete as a source of menial labor very soon since the development of capable robot labor is comming along well.
It could be that they don''t think about it consciously but never-the-less don''t take actions to prevent it with a subconscious awareness of what they are about - but washing their hands of it in their minds.
Just a sunny (;)) thought to brighten your day!
WHAT TO DO WITH 1.3BILLION FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAMIC MUDSCUMS???
TURN THEM INTO SOYLENT GREEN
AND FEED THEM TO THE HOGS... LOL
Soylent Green
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green
Posted by lars008 at 10:34 AM : Sep 08, 2007"
Of course, if you kill him because he had a gun at one time and you have bad dreams about him harming you then you are the really dangerouos one and something of a paranoid killer.
Only psychos kill because they have bad dreams.
The analogy fails for other reasons as well. Iraq is a dinky country with limited weapons capability at their peak of weapons capability - more analogous to a person with sling shot.
We are a continental power with bases around the world and tremendous weapons capability - more analagous to a person with a nuclear missile. In fact we could easily kill all life in Iraq in an matter of minutes using the nukes from just one of our nuclear submarines.
The whole effort at rationalization is depraved and nonsense.
As I''ve said before, anyone using the word "Liberal" as a derogatory term is a imbecile that would include Limbaugh, Hannity and O''Reilly and their avid but mindless audience.
Lars008 is a typical example, not the brightest bulb in the chain or the sharpest tool in the toolbox.
tell it to fascist nazi terrorislam haji...
look who is targeting civilians haji...
Qaeda warns of attacks ''worse than 9/11''
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070530102648.wuwa6k96&show_article=1
Hizbullah Deputy Sec-Gen Sheikh Naim Qassem: We Have Jurisprudent Permission to Carry Out ''Martyrdom'' Operations, Fire Missiles on Israeli Civilians From Ayatollah Khomeini
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154907
Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp
But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.
"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.
Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.
The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108
Character is far more important than intellect in making a man a good citizen Theodore Roosevelt
In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing. Theodore Roosevelt
I would rather go out of politics feeling that I had done what was right than stay in with the approval of all men, knowing in my heart that I had acted as I ought not to. - Speech to the New York Assembly 1884 Theodore Roosevelt
If you could read English you might know that.
Breaking: Less Than Half of all Published Scientists Endorse Global Warming Theory
SURVEY: LESS THAN HALF OF ALL PUBLISHED SCIENTISTS ENDORSE GLOBAL WARMING THEORY; COMPREHENSIVE SURVEY OF PUBLISHED CLIMATE RESEARCH REVEALS CHANGING VIEWPOINTS
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=b35c36a3-802a-23ad-46ec-6880767e7966
Posted by gethefacts at 01:11 PM : Sep 08, 2007
1) Based on your post I very much doubt you are a scientist.
2) I doubt you could find 200 scientists to agree with your wacky post, much less 2 million!! (are there REALLY that many scientists?!?)
3) Live up to your name and go GETHEFACTS!! Thanks.
FBI arrests 11 NJ officials for bribery
All of them are Democrats.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2007/09/fbi_arrests_11_nj_officials_fo.html
systemic corruption in the Democratic Party
Corruption sting crosses N.J.
12 charged in a widening investigation that began with contracts in an Atlantic County school district.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/20070907_Corruption_sting_crosses_N_J_.html
Hillary campaign honcho among 11 busted in N.J. sting
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/2007/09/07/2007-09-07_hillary_campaign_honcho_among_11_busted_.html
11 Arrested in N.J. Corruption Inquiry
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/07/nyregion/06corruptCND.html?em&ex=1189310400&en=b504d6c2fbd19cba&ei=5087%0A
Castro''s tip: Clinton-Obama the winning ticket
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2825114320070829?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true
Kathleen Willey: Clintons stole my manuscript
House burglary over weekend targeted copy of book days after details leaked to press
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/staticarticles/article57498.html
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by sgtrds
September 8, 2007 9:12 PM PDT
- So Bush is now on Air Force One and winging his way back to the States. Here''s hoping it disappears over the ocean and is never heard from again. The only thing better that that would be is if the fat tub of pig guts Cheney was on it too.
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