Unions Press Clinton on Outsourcing

Washington Post: Hillary Gets Heat For Past Comments Relating To Hiring Of Overseas Workers

(Washingtonpost.com)  This story was written by John Solomon and Matthew Mosk.

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When Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton flew to New Delhi to meet with Indian business leaders in 2005, she offered a blunt assessment of the loss of American jobs across the Pacific. "There is no way to legislate against reality," she declared. "Outsourcing will continue. ... We are not against all outsourcing; we are not in favor of putting up fences."

Two years later, as a Democratic presidential hopeful, Clinton struck a different tone when she told students in New Hampshire that she hated "seeing U.S. telemarketing jobs done in remote locations far, far from our shores."

The two speeches delivered continents apart highlight the delicate balance the senator from New York, a dedicated free-trader, is seeking to maintain as she courts two competing constituencies: wealthy Indian immigrants who have pledged to donate and raise as much as $5 million for her 2008 campaign, and powerful American labor unions that are crucial to any Democratic primary victory.

Despite aggressive courtship by Democratic candidates, major unions such as the AFL-CIO, the Teamsters and the Service Employees International Union have withheld their endorsements as they scrutinize the candidates' records and solicit views on a variety of issues.

High on the agenda of union officials is an explanation of how each candidate will try to stem the loss of U.S. jobs, including large numbers in the service and technology sectors that are being taken over by cheap labor in India. During the vetting, some union leaders have found Clinton's record troubling.

"The India issue is still something people are concerned about. Her financial relationships, her quotes - they have both gotten attention," said Thea M. Lee, policy director for the AFL-CIO.

Facing a cool reception, Clinton and her advisers have used closed-door meetings with labor leaders in recent months to explain her past ties to Indian companies, donors and policies. Aides have highlighted her efforts to retrain displaced workers and to end offshore tax breaks that reward companies that outsource jobs.

But the Clinton camp has been pressed by labor leaders on her support for expanding temporary U.S. work visas that often go to Indians who get jobs in the United States, and it has been queried about the help she gave a major Indian company to gain a foothold in New York State. That company now outsources most of its work to India.

"They're obviously defensive about it," observed Lee, who has taken part in such meetings.

Clinton declined repeated requests for an interview about her views on outsourcing. Her campaign advisers, however, say she believes there are no inconsistencies in the comments she has made here and in India or in her actions as a senator.

They say she opposes legislative measures - such as trade barriers - to slow the loss of American jobs if they would restrain free trade. And they say she has supported the expansion of the temporary-worker visas because U.S. technology companies have repeatedly told her the visas are needed to maintain a ready workforce.

At the same time, they say, she has worked hard to secure money to assist workers who have lost jobs to outsourcing and wants to retrain the American workforce to compete better in the global marketplace.

Clinton "believes that we must make sure that we are not allowing other countries to take advantage of American workers and that we do not have policies in place that actually promote outsourcing of American jobs," spokesman Philippe Reines said.

Her rivals for the Democratic nomination have monitored her every comment on the issue. Last year, the India Abroad newspaper reported that she joked to a group of Indian American donors that she could easily win a Senate seat if she were running in the Indian state of Punjab. An aide to her chief foe in the Democratic contest, Sen. Barack Obama D-Ill., parodied those remarks in a document distributed to reporters; it listed her political affiliation as "D-Punjab."

At a recent event in Los Angeles, host Nadadur Vardhan told those gathered that they should support Clinton because "she may shift more jobs to India," according to an Indian news account. Asked about the remarks, Vardhan told The Washington Post: "That's not our goal. Our goal is to support her because she is best for this country."

Obama and former senator John Edwards of North Carolina, who trail Clinton in the polls, have sought to attack her record on outsourcing while arguing that they support more direct government intervention to protect U.S. jobs.

Clinton's camp counters that Obama and Edwards have acknowledged that some loss of American jobs is inevitable in a global economy. Edwards, for example, told a New Delhi conference in 2005 that outsourcing was "an economic reality" and "America must act to ensure that it stays strong and adapts ... to ensure that the American people are better prepared to meet the challenges of the new world." And Obama said just two months ago: "We know that we can't put the forces of globalization back in the bottle. We cannot bring back every job that's been lost."

When Clinton told a union-sponsored debate last month that the nation needed a "better approach" to globalization and trade, Edwards railed against the North American Free Trade Agreement that President Bill Clinton's administration signed in 1993, saying it compromised "millions of jobs." Obama chimed in that "people don't want a cheaper T-shirt if it's costing us jobs."

[lorinkundert]

Hillary will never answer those questions to anyone''s satisfaction, she is very good at judging the direction of the wind and blowing with it, but in the end we are left with nothing of substance.

[standlee5]

Hillary Clinton will sell out the American worker faster than anyone in the race. She is not a strong leader. She has no backbone and won''t stand up to any foreign pressure. The Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket will seal the deal for the end of American workers. We will all have to be brokers of some sort and our taxes will be sky high.

[homespunlady]

Noticed the "outsourcing" that was mentioned here was ALL about India.
No mention about the H1B visas that take away American jobs here IN America.
Has the outsourcing to COMMUNIST CHINA become too much of a HOT BUTTON?
Didn''t help that our pets, kids and cars have ALL been endangered from inferior, dangerous products that would be BANNED if made in the USA but were ENCOURAGED when it come from a slave labor state.

NOW, even our trucking industry and the kids in our cars are facing UNREGULATED MEXICAN TRUCKS that have been given access to our highways along with the DRIVERS that will drive down the incomes of American Truckers.

[klingon69]

Does Hitlery have any connections with Amerrican citizens? She''s got criminal Chinese and Indian but don''t see much about any domestic support.

[gkc99]

Bill Clinton, the president from Microsoft, caved in to the computer billionaires and gave them everything they wanted in terms of oursourcing, H1B visas, reduced tariffs, reduced export controls, and the like. This all with the help of senior U.S. senator Dianne Feinstein (D., Cal.). Hillary embraces Bill''s accomplishments whenever it suits her. Therefore, she should not be allowed to dodge responsibility for NAFTA, WTO and the like which were passed on Mr. Clinton''s watch.

John Edwards is the only reliable pro-labor Democrat in the race, although Obama may come along with some training. Hillary is just too waffly, too suspect, to be assured of labor''s support.

[trillion1]

It seems most of the H1-B visas are going to semi skilled Indians who will gladly take an American''s job for a lot less money and Hillary wants more.

[likeitis5050]

Hillary will do whatever she has to do to get the vote...she will do whatever she pleases once she has it. Nothing to see here, folks...move along.

[nottellin1]

Vinod Gupta, the founder of a Nebraska data-mining firm, has donated more than $1 million to the Clintons'' political causes while also paying the former president at least $3.3 million as a business consultant.

Wait. What?!!!!! and here I was thinking that Bill only got paid outragous sums for speaking engagements. I wonder how many other current or past political leaders are also on corporate payrolls.

[lars008-2009]

it is fascist nazi terrorislam stupid%u2026.

non muslims of the world unite... fight against the tyranny of the fascist nazi terrorslam imperialist empire of the darkside...

I was a fanatic...I know their thinking, says former radical Islamist
By blaming the Government for our actions, those who pushed this "Blair''s bombs" line did our propaganda work for us.
More important, they also helped to draw away any critical examination from the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770

Bless the Beasts and Children
Fascist nazi terrorslam kills every man woman and child in the village again%u2026 typical mo for terrorslam%u2026
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/bless-the-beasts-and-children.htm

Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20arabia%20pagan

the truth about fascist nazi terrorislam...
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what-really-happened/

[lars008-2009]

OBAMA, OOPS I MEAN OSAMA BIN FORGOTTEN GIVES HIS DEMONIC-RAT
CHORUS OF USEFUL IDIOTS A PEP TALK... LOL

Leftist Support of Islamist Terror

Most shocking is the outright sympathy of many leftist-liberals for Islamic fascism. They said little about the murder of 500 Russian civilians, many of them children, but screamed week after week because some Arab savage at Abu Ghraib prison wore a bag on his head. They cared nothing about the beheadings committed by the Islamo-savages or the execution of 12 Nepalese. David Horowitz gives an excellent discussion of who this "Left" really is. He calls them neo-communist, I call them Leftist-Liberals. I''m a classical Liberal myself and I feel it''s time to remove this irrational element that has been allowed to poison our good name.

http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/list.htm
The Chorus of Useful Idiots
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/thornton.htm
Supporters of Muslim Terrorism on the un-Religious Left
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/index1.htm
Exposing Leftists'' Radical Islam Connection
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/left_islam.htm
Definitions, Lies, and Losing Your Head
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/def_lies.htm
Shocking (Liberal) Silence
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/leftist_silence.htm

[xlib]

The comment that john edwards is pro labor is a hoot. That guy is as smarmy as they come. His "two Americas" is nothing but spewing out the same class war/envy rhetoric that the left has used for decades. Show me, just show me where this guy is pro labor. Haven''t seen it yet. BTW, the foreclosures on the gulf homes by your guy is now up to 47. Whatta guy.
This is about hill, the hill that is the heir apparant to the WH, says the pundits. The hill who thinks lobbyists are "just regular Americans". Yep, that''s your hill. Wife of the idiot who gave us NAFTA.

[lars008-2009]

LOOK WHO IS TARGETING CIVILIANS!!!

Qaeda warns of attacks ''worse than 9/11''
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070530102648.wuwa6k96&show_article=1

Hizbullah Deputy Sec-Gen Sheikh Naim Qassem: We Have Jurisprudent Permission to Carry Out ''Martyrdom'' Operations, Fire Missiles on Israeli Civilians From Ayatollah Khomeini
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154907

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108
American Al Qaeda Member Threatens Attack
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/29/terror/main2865282.shtml

[radiob-2009]

Another one of the "corporate poodles" in the Itarod, the Whippet and the Greyhound being exposed for what she is. Now where are the statesmen for president?

[toldyouso21]

It is easy to be FOR outsourcing or apathetic to the havoc it wreaks, when it is not YOUR job or community torn apart by it. It is even easier when one possesses the type of job, that by its very nature (government) can''t be outsourced or insourced to foreigners. It makes it very easy to screeeew over everyone else, when such acts only add to the a politician''s pocket.

Show me a person for outsourcing and I will show you a person either in government or who has benefited monetarily from that arrangement. Show me a person for insourcing and the same---from bring in foreigners for computer jobs and eschewing the recent computer grads here to not hiring Americans because of the benefits, OSHA and retirement plans that have to be in place --(and replacing them with illegal immigrants) the game is the same: THE CREED IS GREED. But...the worm turns and since we are all connected and what affects some of us eventually affects all of us--promote these self flagellating methods while you can:

Milk it for all of its worth, because when the ******** hits the fan and we are 3rd world--it will be your 3rd world too. "Eat and Revel as much as you can--for tommorrow we all may die" Get the gist now--or get it later--but we ALL will be getting it.

[ringading3]

Eliminate organized crime, do not buy anything made by union labor. Do not patronize any establishment that employs UNION thugs. The UNIONs are corrupt and must be fought at every place they exist.

[ringading3]

I smell fear in the John Edwards camp. He knows the future. Watch for more dramatic statements from him as he sees himself slide to oblivion.

[gkc99]

Heartless Hillary invokes Slick Willie when it suits her, just like she was a part of his administration. So Hilly can just explain to the Teamsters why she let all the Mexican trucks into the USA. I don''t think a Dem can win without labor support. IF she''s just another NAFTA-ho, might''s well elect a Repugniscum! At least they might drop our taxes!

[gkc99]

"Eliminate organized crime, do not buy anything made by union labor. Do not patronize any establishment that employs UNION thugs. The UNIONs are corrupt and must be fought at every place they exist.
Posted by RingADing3


This must be a China shill. Maybe he should sign as "LingADing". Or else a hireling of the neoconscum who own Bushit and Darth.

[cruiser111-2009]

Am I the only person who noticed that all the candidates are repeating the same thing over and over again? "Globalization", "New World Economy",(Sounds surprisingly like New World Order doesn''t it?) "Global Economy"? They are all saying the same thing in different ways. Hillary wants to be the most powerful woman in the world. We are being distracted by partisan squabbling so that the Elitists can advance their policy of global economic dominance. Please people take notice that the candidates are in reality interviewing publicly to become the puppet for the huge corporations that actully run our country and the countries around ty world. New World Order. Please google NAFTA Superhighway and read what is in store and in fact is already being implemented. Haliburton is building huge detention facilities that the Govt claims will be used to house illegal immigrants. If you believe that then think about this. Why did Bush and other''s push so hard to grant amnisty for these illegals. And why have we only built 18 miles of border fence when money has been allocated for the construction of a fence spanning the entire mexican/american border? Google operation "Garden Plot" it is the Govt''s policy and plan to deal with American rebels who rise up against the Govt. when we as a people wake up and find out that our country has been sold out to the Elite. Has anyone heard of the North American Union? Our Pres recently met with the leaders of Canada and Mexico in furtherance of this goal.

[radiob-2009]

List of the "corporate poodles" in the Itarod, the Whippet and the Greyhound sponsored by the "golden elephants and the golden donkeys".



Joe Biden

Hillary Rodham Clinton
Chris Dodd

John Edwards


Mike Gravel
Dennis Kucinich

Barack Obama

Bill Richardson

Sam Brownback


Rudy Giuliani

Mike Huckabee

Duncan Hunter

John McCain

Ron Paul

Mitt Romney

Tom Tancredo

Fred Thompson

[cruiser111-2009]

The position on President is not an elected one. It is an selected position. Selected by whom you ask? Selected by corporate elites who purchase the precious votes cast by members of the electoral college. Yes thats right the same scum soliciting gay *** in airport restrooms, the same scum who engages in homosexual activies with Congressional pages. The scum who frequently patronises brothels and hookers while at the same time pushing for wholesome moral and family values in our legislature. America has become a modern day Sodom and Gemorra. Rome followed this route and after a short 200 years collapsed unto itself. Never to rise from the ashes. The fire has been lit just watch as our country burns.

[lars008-2009]

SYSTEMIC CORRUPTION IN THE DEMONIC-RAT PARTY

FBI arrests 11 NJ officials for bribery
All of them are Democrats.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2007/09/fbi_arrests_11_nj_officials_fo.html
systemic corruption in the Democratic Party
Corruption sting crosses N.J.
12 charged in a widening investigation that began with contracts in an Atlantic County school district.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/20070907_Corruption_sting_crosses_N_J_.html

Hillary campaign honcho among 11 busted in N.J. sting
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/2007/09/07/2007-09-07_hillary_campaign_honcho_among_11_busted_.html
11 Arrested in N.J. Corruption Inquiry
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/07/nyregion/06corruptCND.html?em&ex=1189310400&en=b504d6c2fbd19cba&ei=5087%0A

Castro''s tip: Clinton-Obama the winning ticket
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2825114320070829?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

Kathleen Willey: Clintons stole my manuscript
House burglary over weekend targeted copy of book days after details leaked to press
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/staticarticles/article57498.html

[lastdance2]

lars008

No-one follows that "http" garbage

These Topics - are for - Personal Comments _

Not - News articles - Not Speech''s -

You post only - Spam -
Just to bury - Serious Comments

Lastdance

[lorinkundert]

Hillary has more to answer for than this if this case goes against her.

"The California Court of Appeals, Second Appellate District, will hear arguments about whether Clinton, a New York senator and leading Democratic presidential candidate, should be a defendant in a lawsuit brought by Hollywood mogul Peter Paul.

Attorneys for each side will also debate the inclusion of a videotape as evidence -- a video in which Clinton can be heard apparently agreeing to plan a fundraiser, which was later determined to be illegal by the Federal Elections Commission (FEC). "

[prariesam]

Does anyone else find it funny that the person going on and on about the "scum" who engage in homosexual activity and solicit bathroom *** and states that we''re becoming another Sodom and Gomorrah, signs his posts as "cruiser"?!!

[lars008-2009]

"Everybody in politics lies, but they [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it%u2019s troubling,%u201D Geffen said.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003548043
Hillary Clinton''s Former Campaign Finance Director Indicted
http://www.wnbc.com/politics/4063107/detail.html
hillary lies
But a Hillary Tale About Her Childhood
http://hillaryspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTE3OTBlZWUxMTI0NjVjZDhkNTExYTc3NWJiZTE4ODI=
Hillary''s "Feminist Problem"
The Nation: Feminists Rescind Their Support For Former First Lady
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/15/opinion/main2934136.shtml
Watergate reporter demolishes Hillary%u2019s career story
reveal a number of %u201Cdiscrepancies%u201D in her official story.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1719879.ece
Opponents hammer Clinton on Iraq%u2026 dance billary dance hahaha
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/05/opponents-hammer-clinton-on-iraq.html

hahahaha people paying to listen to an admitted, proven, convicted, impeached, disbarred liar%u2026lol
For Clinton, New Wealth In Speeches
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/22/AR2007022202189.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/21/AR2007022100993_pf.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17263999/

[lars008-2009]

HSU A NO HSU AT HEARING%u2026 LOL

Democratic Donor a No Show at Hearing
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070906/D8RFKG500.html

Dems Dirty Donor Norman Hsu Fails to Show for Bail Reduction Hearing Leading to Speculation He''s On the Run
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295828,00.html

china buys usa elections???
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=chinese+campaign contributions democrat

Big Source of Clinton''s Cash Is an Unlikely Address
Family''s Donations Closely Track Those Of Top Fund-Raiser
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118826947048110677.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news

Report: Hillary Clinton Big Money Donor Wanted for Grand Theft
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Hillary Clinton Big Money Donor Wanted for Grand Theft&btnG=Search
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295031,00.html

Leading Clinton Donor Stays Below the Radar
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB118835199704811801.html?mod=blog

''DIRTY CASH'' MAN FLEES
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03042007/news/nationalnews/pro_clinton_dirty_cash_man_flees_nationalnews_christine_field.htm

RNC pushing the China angle
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0807/RNC_Pushing_the_China_angle.html

Democrats Turn From Big Donor Who%u2019s Fugitive
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/31/us/politics/31hsu.html?ei=5065&en=c3f5afa614172532&ex=1189224000&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

[radiob-2009]

A day after announcing his bid for the Republican nomination to the White House, Fred Thompson is under fire for accepting at least $13,800 in donations from a family involved in a health care scandal. John Gregory, founder of King Pharmaceuticals, settled with the Justice Department and 49 other states in 2005 for $124 million that claimed overcharges to Medicaid and other government health care programs. "Though the contributions could become fodder for his critics as he officially launches his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, the Thompson campaign defended the family%u2019s support and pledged to keep the cash," The Politico reported.


Breakdown of the contributions to all "poodles" can be found here.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=B12

[toldyouso21]

So Hilary is a big supporter of Outsourcing? She just lost the 4 votes in this house.

[toldyouso21]

Does anyone else find it funny that the person going on and on about the "scum" who engage in homosexual activity and solicit bathroom *** and states that we''''re becoming another Sodom and Gomorrah, signs his posts as "cruiser"?!!
Posted by PrarieSam at 12:50 AM : Sep 09, 2007


Maybe they own a PT Cruiser or like to take cruises on ships. It was a nice word before it became synonymous for a type of behavior. Just like the word "gay" used to mean happy and a ****** is the English word for a cigarette and a ****** means a bundle of sticks. Sad but very telling that in this nonliterate generation, people forget the actual contemporary definition of words and think the slang term is the true and only meaning. LOL

[toldyouso21]

Does anyone else find it funny that the person going on and on about the "scum" who engage in homosexual activity and solicit bathroom *** and states that we''''re becoming another Sodom and Gomorrah, signs his posts as "cruiser"?!!
Posted by PrarieSam at 12:50 AM : Sep 09, 2007


Maybe they own a PT Cruiser or like to take cruises on ships. It was a nice word before it became synonymous for a type of behavior. Just like the word "gay" used to mean happy and a ****** is the English word for a cigarette and a ****** means a bundle of sticks. Sad but very telling that in this nonliterate generation, people forget the actual contemporary definition of words and think the slang term is the true and only meaning. LOL

[chicagopoet]

We can''t afford to let another Clinton take control of the White House. The last thing we need is more of the same policy that failed us the first time around. John Edwards is the answer.

[fizzal-2009]

Ill do this for you if you do that for me sounds like a bribe. The i won,t work for you unless I get more for me group should jump into the future.