February 11, 2009 4:16 PM

Petraeus, Crocker To Say Stay The Course

(CBS/AP)  President Bush's top two military and political advisers on Iraq will warn Congress on Monday that making any significant changes to the current war strategy will jeopardize the limited security and political progress made so far, The Associated Press has learned.

U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker, who has been less forthcoming than Gen. David Petraeus in advance of his testimony, will join Petraeus in pushing for maintaining the U.S. troop surge, seeing it as the only viable option to prevent Iraq and the region from plunging into further chaos, U.S. officials said.

Crocker and Petraeus planned to meet on Sunday to go over their remarks and responses to expected tough questioning from lawmakers - including skeptical Republicans. But they will not consult Mr. Bush or their immediate bosses before their appearances Monday and Tuesday, in order to preserve the "independence and the integrity of their testimony," said one official.

Petraeus and Crocker did have lengthy discussions with the president, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice when Mr. Bush visited Iraq on Labor Day.

Crocker, a career diplomat with extensive experience in the Middle East who opposed the war when it began in 2003, is pushing for political change where progress has been elusive and the administration's options are limited under the fragile Shiite-led government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

Yet the diplomat will say that as poorly as al-Maliki's government has performed, it would not be advisable at the moment for the U.S. to support new leadership or lobby for a different coalition of Iraq's fractious Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds, the officials said.

Crocker also will discuss the challenges of corruption, reconciliation, de-Baathification and the difficulties of enacting wide-ranging legislation such as an oil law, according to officials. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were discussing internal deliberations.

Both Crocker and Petraeus will say the buildup of 30,000 troops, bringing the current U.S. total to nearly 170,000, has achieved some success and is working better than any previous effort to quell the insurgency and restore stability, according to officials familiar with their thinking.

Petraeus, the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, and Crocker were in the Washington area on Saturday working separately on final drafts of opening testimony on Capitol Hill. Later in the week, Mr. Bush plans a national address.

The assessments by Petraeus and Crocker are intended to be considered equally. But officials expect Congress to focus on military matters, particularly possible troop withdrawals. Unless there are changes, the increase comes to a natural end starting in the spring and continuing through the end of next summer.

At the same time, officials close to Crocker pointed out that any revisions to the military strategy will have a profound affect on the political side.

"Clearly, the political, economic and diplomatic elements are directly related to what happens with security and our involvement in it," one official said.

The officials disputed suggestions that either Petraeus or Crocker would recommend anything more than a symbolic reduction in troop levels and then only in the spring.

Petraeus offered some insights into his testimony on Friday. In a letter to troops serving in Iraq, he cited "uneven" but quantifiable progress in the security situation and acknowledged that the political side "has not worked out as we had hoped."

"We are, in short, a long way from the goal line, but we do have the ball and we are driving down the field," he wrote. It was perhaps the clearest indication he favors carrying on with the troop increase.

Officials said Crocker is focused on trying to do the best he can with the tools available to him now before completing his tour in Baghdad and retiring. More is at stake for Petraeus because he is believed to have higher ambitions, including possibly elected office.

In their testimony, the two will lay out for Congress the situation on the ground, discuss the merits of possible revisions to Mr. Bush's strategy, including troop drawdowns and a reduction in support for embattled al-Maliki and conclude that such changes are unwise, officials told the AP.

The testimony will set the stage for an announcement by Mr. Bush on how he will proceed in the face of widespread public unhappiness with the war and criticism from congressional Democrats, especially senators seeking the party's 2008 presidential nomination.

Petraeus and Crocker previewed their thoughts to Mr. Bush during his stop in Anbar province last Monday. It is one of several regions where the administration has claimed success with the additional troops, with decisions by local leaders to join with U.S. forces against insurgents, the officials said.

To that end, the presidential advisers will press lawmakers to recognize achievements at the local level and argue that such results will force Iraq's national leaders into action.

But that development is not covered by any of the 18 military and political benchmarks Congress set out for judging the effectiveness when it approved the new policy that was announced by Mr. Bush in January and reached its full strength in July.

In their testimony, Petraeus and Crocker are expected to repeat the assertions made in the White House's July report that progress is being made, official said. A new updated report is due Sept. 15.

They also are expected to make the oft-stated case that an independent report by congressional auditors, who found only three of 18 benchmarks fully met, set unfair standards for judging success, the officials said.

In Other Developments:

  • President Bush, in his weekly radio address, urged Democrats and Republicans to unite and back the war strategy he'll lay out for the next chapter of U.S. involvement in Iraq. He recounted his surprise trip to the desert in western Iraq, where he met with Iraqi leaders and local sheiks who have joined U.S.-led coalition forces in fighting al Qaeda.

  • In the Democratic radio address, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid repeated his contention that Mr. Bush had misled the country into "an ill-planned war in Iraq" before finishing the job of destroying al Qaeda.

  • Iraq's parliament voted unanimously Saturday to extend the work of a committee that is in charge of recommending amendments to the constitution until the end of the year, a sign of the difficulties that the commission is facing in completing a task demanded by Sunni politicians. The main points that are proving the most difficult include the powers of the president, the fate of the northern ethnically-mixed city of Kirkuk and the personal status law which governs marriage, divorce and inheritance according to a person's religion. Amending the constitution is one of the key demands, such as a new oil law, by the United States.

  • A suicide car bomber detonated his explosives-packed Mercedes near a row of stores in the Shiite militia stronghold of Sadr City, killing at least 15 people, police and hospital officials said. The attacker was believed to be aiming for a busy market but was forced to detonate his explosives early after Iraqi police fired at his car, devastating a barber shop and other nearby stores.

  • A bomb went off midday at a crowded market in Kufa, 100 miles south of Baghdad, killing four and injuring five, said Khalil al-Yasiri, a health official in the neighboring city of Najaf. Salah Mihsin, 35, was shopping with his child, Ameer, when he received injuries in both his legs from the explosion. "I still don't know the fate of my child," he said while laying in his hospital bed.

  • Gunmen in Najaf killed Mohammed al-Qarawi, director of tribal affairs in anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's office. The local police commander Maj. Gen. Abdul-Karim al-Mayahi said the attack occurred Friday on the road between Kufa and Najaf.

  • In a major step to try end attacks on the country's oil industry, Iraq's Defense Ministry warned Iraqis to keep their distance from oil pipelines or power lines because military planes "will open fire immediately on anyone who tries to harm the nation's wealth or infrastructure."

  • The U.S. military said it had brought a new weapon into the fight in Iraq, announcing the Army's first-ever use of a drone aircraft to kill enemy fighters in the country. The Hunter unmanned aerial vehicle, or UAV, dropped a precision bomb on two suspected insurgents believed to be preparing to plant roadside bombs on Sept. 1, the military said. The drone was called in for the attack near Qarraya, 180 miles northwest of Baghdad, after a scout team from the 2nd Battalion, 25th Aviation Regiment, observed the insurgents at work.
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    by lars008-2009 September 9, 2007 9:33 PM EDT
    NONE OF US IS FREE UNLESS ALL ARE FREE!

    None Of Us Are Free - Lynyrd Skynyrd
    http://www.lyrics007.com/Lynyrd%20Skynyrd%20Lyrics/None%20Of%20Us%20Are%20Free%20Lyrics.html

    WHY IS IT NOT ONE MUSLIM COUNTRY GRANTS EQUAL RIGHTS TO NON MUSLIMS?

    FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM SAYS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATES ISLAM LAW...

    Universal Declaration of Human Rights
    http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

    For example, in 1981, the Iranian representative to the United Nations, Said Rajaie-Khorassani, articulated the position of his country regarding the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by saying that the UDHR was "a secular understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition", which could not be implemented by Muslims without trespassing the Islamic law.

    http://www.un.org/terrorism/
    http://www.un.org/terrorism/strategy-counter-terrorism.html
    http://www.un.org/

    But the accepted assumption in India is that most of India''s Muslims were converted to Islam through the sword. Meaning the Indians were given an option between death or adopting Islam. The third option was getting examined in Islam religion along with heavy taxes- Jeziya (poll tax) and Kharaj (property tax).
    http://adaniel.tripod.com/Islam.htm

    this is what fascist nazi islam calls peace....

    are you ready to live under islam rule as a non muslim???

    apartheid fascist nazi islamic style

    Rights of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State
    http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/islamic_state.htm
    Reply to this comment
    by lars008-2009 September 9, 2007 9:29 PM EDT
    ISRAEL GRANTS EQUAL RIGHTS...

    NOT ONE ISLAMIC COUNTRY GRANTS EQUAL RIGHTS...

    WHY???

    Arab citizens of Israel............ Israel''''s Declaration of Independence called for equal treatment under the law of all its citizens, regardless of their beliefs or national origin. Arab Israelis have had political representation since the state''''s first parliamentary assembly; currently, thirteen members of the Israeli Parliament are Arab-Israeli, most representing majority Arab political parties. An Arab-Israeli judge also sits on the Supreme Court,[11] and an Arab Israeli is next in line to the acting presidency (and has assumed role as such for a week-long period).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel
    Myths & Facts Online Human Rights in Israel and the Territories
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf18.html
    Reply to this comment
    by toldyouso21 September 9, 2007 8:45 PM EDT
    "...But the Surge was supposed to allow for political reconciliation, and that hasn''''t happened. It''''s gotten worse, not better.....
    THE OPERATION WAS A SUCCESS BUT THE PATIENT DIED.

    Stick an lol on that. Posted by Iceman_1960 at 01:12 PM : Sep 09, 2007


    I give it a LMAO and like Patreaus, a big thumbsup sideways. LMAO
    Reply to this comment
    by toldyouso21 September 9, 2007 8:42 PM EDT
    Thought blurbs for the above photo:

    Patreaus to Bush: ''and I push it in really fast and wiggle it like this sir, you''ll shoot off like a rocket in no time flat.''

    Bush: "Stop that kind of talk pat--ya know I''m tryin to look Presidential and *******, heh heh."
    Reply to this comment
    by down-ndirty September 9, 2007 7:52 PM EDT
    You "John Kerry" types disgrase the uniform.
    Posted by B48151 at 09:59 AM : Sep 09, 2007
    __________________

    Ha Ha Ha!! The military is comprised of about 50% liberals, "John Kerry" types, as you call them.

    LOL!!! You disgrace (not "disgrase," stupid) the human species.

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    by tbweb September 9, 2007 6:11 PM EDT
    "Deja Vu, The illusion of having already experienced something actually being experienced for the first time."

    illusion??? Pres. Bush''s Vietnam redux in Iraq is real and no illusion. Like Sen. Joe Biden fresh from Iraq said today, if this Stay the Course policy continues, trying to establish a central government in Iraq which will not work, Americans will be leaving Iraq the same way they left Vietnam, hanging onto helicopters from the Green Zone roof tops running for their lives!

    President Bush made a reference to Vietnam recently when talking about Iraq. Since Pres. Bush went there, I''''ll go there too! The number one lesson America said it learned from the Vietnam war, both Politicians and everyday Americans is that the United States will never again fight a war without the full support and backing of the American people! With 73% of Americans opposing the War in Iraq and President Bush staying the course in Iraq despite this wide margin of opposition, it proves once again that those who don''''t remember the lessons and mistakes of the past are condemned to repeat it!

    Deja Vu, modern translation? Been there, done that!

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    by iceman_1960 September 9, 2007 4:18 PM EDT
    "Majority in poll say U.S. can win war in Iraq
    The poll shows 54 percent of Americans said the war is not lost... Latest poll shows growing support for Iraq war policy"
    - Posted by lars008 at 01:06 PM : Sep 09, 2007

    hahahahaha wronggggg Goebbels.

    "Wednesday, September 05, 2007

    Most American voters (52%) still want U.S. combat troops to be withdrawn from Iraq by early next year. Thirty-five percent (35%) oppose that policy." (*)

    For the math-challenged, "early next year" means "withing five or six months."

    (*) Source:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/just_39_believe_iraq_report_will_honestly_present_petraeus_views_35_say_it_will_not
    Reply to this comment
    by iceman_1960 September 9, 2007 4:12 PM EDT
    "Couric: ''Real Progress'' In Iraq
    Evening News Anchor Says Police Finally Making Inroads"
    - Posted by lars008 at 01:06 PM : Sep 09, 2007


    Now for the rest of the story.

    Katie is right that in Baghdad the violence is down.

    But the Surge was supposed to allow for political reconciliation, and that hasn''t happened. It''s gotten worse, not better.

    So the bottom line is:

    THE OPERATION WAS A SUCCESS BUT THE PATIENT DIED.

    Stick an lol on that.

    Reply to this comment
    by lars008-2009 September 9, 2007 4:06 PM EDT
    Posted by skyk at 12:42 PM : Sep 09, 2007

    hahahahaha wronggggg haji

    it''s working...

    Couric: ''Real Progress'' In Iraq
    Evening News Anchor Says Police Finally Making Inroads
    http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_247203227.html

    Majority in poll say U.S. can win war in Iraq
    The poll shows 54 percent of Americans said the war is not lost.
    http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=15533

    Latest poll shows growing support for Iraq war policy
    http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/08/latest-poll-sho.html

    Analysis: Military Shows Gains in Iraq
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QRMCU00&show_article=1

    Bush''s war support rising?
    The latest poll by United Press International/Zogby Interactive showed that 54 percent think the war is not lost, with respondents splitting sharply along party lines on that question.
    http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=15553

    GAO: Baghdad Failing To Meet Most Goals
    New Report On Iraq Finds Baghdad Hasn''t Met 11 Of Its 18 Political And Security Benchmarks
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/04/iraq/main3231705.shtml

    Porter ties U.S. withdrawal from Iraq to $9 gasoline
    http://www.lvrj.com/news/9466252.html
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    by iceman_1960 September 9, 2007 3:53 PM EDT
    "No problem. We''ll just keep borrowing the money from China."
    - Posted by micma at 12:51 PM : Sep 09, 2007

    Not a bad idea.

    As long as we owe them money, the Chinese won''t let the Muslims kill us all or force-convert us. (Muslim countries have bad credit reatings.)

    They want their interest payments on time.

    Right, lars ?
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