February 11, 2009 4:16 PM

Pure Horserace: Starting Off In Second

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(CBS)  Fred Thompson enters the 2008 presidential race trailing Rudy Giuliani overall among Republican primary voters and among key groups, according to August's CBS News poll (8/8-12, 2007). Giuliani gets 38 percent support for the nomination, Thompson 18 percent, Mitt Romney 13 percent and John McCain 12 percent. Giuliani leads Thompson among both moderates (49 percent to 16 percent) and conservatives (31 percent to 22 percent), and in all regions of the country - including the South, where Giuliani is up 40 percent to 21 percent.

There seems to be a lot of room for primary voters to get to know Thompson. Most (67 percent) don't know enough about him to have an opinion of him. Those who do know him see him positively, by a 24 percent favorable to 7 percent unfavorable margin. Conservative GOP primary voters view Thompson especially favorably: 30 percent have a favorable view and only 2 percent an unfavorable one.

By contrast, current front-runner Giuliani is better known: only 37 percent don't have a view of him, and he's viewed positively by 48 percent to 14 percent unfavorable.

The backers Thompson already has in his camp, according to combined polls from July and August, tend to be conservative (three-quarters of them are); paying a lot of attention to the race (three in 10 are, as opposed to one in 10 of Giuliani's voters who are); and were overwhelmingly unsatisfied with the GOP choices they had prior to Thompson's entry.

Now that he is in the race, we'll see if that discontentedness changes. - Anthony Salvanto


A New Race - For Endorsements:The transition from summer into fall means that voters are going to pay more attention to the presidential race. But they're not the only ones taking on an increasing role in the contest, as this week's sudden glut of labor union endorsements indicates.

In the past two weeks alone, Democrat John Edwards has picked up four union endorsements: The Transportation Workers Union of America announced today that they're backing the former North Carolina senator, and he's also been endorsed by the United Steelworkers, the United Mine Workers of America, and the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America. Also today, Hillary Clinton accepted the endorsement of the Transportation Communications Union.

But that' just the beginning. Many more unions have endorsements to make, including the influential Service Employees International Union, whose backing helped catapult Howard Dean to the front of the Democratic pack, at least temporarily, in the prelude to the 2004 nominating process. Republicans get in on the act, too, seeing the backing of anti-abortion organizations, some police unions and gun rights groups.

The battle for endorsements plays a major role in turning fall into a frenzy. The candidates have already grown accustomed to going back and forth between New Hampshire, Iowa and other states. They now have to add to that list courting and negotiating with various organizations, all in an effort to win their stamp of approval. All while yet another fundraising deadline is just over three weeks away.

Is the effort worth it? After all, there's an argument to be made that raising money and meeting actual voters is a lot more worthwhile than winning the backing of a national organization whose membership may be relatively small. But don't expect the candidates to ignore the appeal of a key endorsement. In fact, for Republicans, they could be especially crucial. Most of the field is seeking to become the conservative alternative to Giuliani, the front-runner, and telling voters you've been named the best candidate by a pro-life group may be more potent than any stump speech. Democrats benefit from a labor union's fundraising and organizing power.

With both parties' candidates having so much to gain from winning these groups' approval, it remains likely they'll somehow find time in their schedules to do what's needed to get it. - David Miller


Courting McCain? Most analysts gave John McCain high marks for his performance in last night's New Hampshire debate, but the Arizona senator still has a long way to go to regain some semblance of the strong position he occupied last winter. While the rest of the field publicly won't write off McCain's chances, they are starting to speak very highly of him.

In his appearance on the "Tonight Show," Thompson made sure to mention McCain when he was asked who he thought his toughest primary opponent would be. "I know them all to a certain extent. John McCain and I sat side by side on the Senate floor. He's a good friend and will be after this is over with - unless, of course, he beats me," Thompson said.

When asked to respond to McCain's pointed opinion that Giuliani lacked foreign policy experience during the debate, the former New York City mayor responded with a compliment. "I have tremendous respect for Senator McCain. I think I've said more than once, if I wasn't running, I'd probably be supporting him for president of the United States," he said. Mike Huckabee also went out of his way to praise McCain. "Let me make this clear," he said, "If there's anybody on this stage that understands the word honor, I've got to say Senator McCain understands that word because he has given his country a sacrifice the rest of us don't even comprehend."

Only Romney seemed to criticize McCain, and that was in a nuanced manner during the debate over immigration when he castigated the Senate bill sponsored by McCain earlier this year. The more fierce verbal combat was reserved for Romney and Giuliani and even Huckabee and Ron Paul. With McCain riding low in the polls and money race these days, the rest of the field may not see him as much of a threat at this moment - but they probably see his future support as a big prize. - Vaughn Ververs


Biden Goes Way Off The Trail: Some candidates think frequent trips to Iowa are the key to winning the nomination, but Democrat Joe Biden, who has made his foreign policy expertise the centerpiece of his campaign, is taking a different route this week with a visit to Iraq.

Biden will be meeting with soldiers, Iraqi tribal leaders and U.S. officials in order to get a firsthand perspective on whether President Bush's troop surge is paying off. "The President told us that the purpose of the troop surge was to buy time for political reconciliation at the national level. During my trip to Iraq, I hope to gauge firsthand the prospects for - and progress towards - that goal," Biden said in a release.

The visit follows Biden's first ad of the campaign, which mentioned another trip to Iraq. Will flexing his foreign policy muscles win Biden the nomination? Maybe not, but it could put him on the short list of potential secretary of state nominees should a Democrat prevail in 2008. - David Miller


Win A Visit To The Clinton Kitchen: First there was "Dinner With Barack," in which Barack Obama selected four donors to go out to dinner with him - a fundraising tactic he's since repeated. Now Hillary Clinton is getting in on the act, giving a donor the chance to eat lunch with her. But there's an added bonus: Her husband will be there as well.

In an e-mail sent to supporters today, Bill Clinton said he would "drop in" on lunch with his wife and the lucky donor. "There's no one smarter, no one better informed, and no one whose conversation I enjoy more," Clinton says of his wife. "So if you have the chance to sit down and talk with Hillary - like you do right now - you don't want to miss it. That's why I'm going to join the two of you."

No word about what's on the menu. But since Obama served steak at his dinner, you can bet that the Clintons will probably serve something better than PB&J. - David Miller


Well, We Elected A "Jimmy" Once: It might be natural to assume that Fred Thompson's real first name is Frederick. Or maybe just Fred. But the Los Angeles Times has the real scoop: His birth name is Freddie Dalton Thompson, and he was known as Freddie until he began practicing law when, doing the opposite of former President James Earl Carter, he adopted a more formal version of his first name.

This election, already unique in many ways, has also stood out for how often the names of its candidates are an issue. Mitt Romney's real first name is Willard. Hillary Clinton seems to have dropped her "Rodham" - and, oftentimes, her "Clinton." There's a serious debate over whether someone named Barack Obama - whose middle name is Hussein - can even be elected. What's in a name? In this election, quite a bit, apparently. - David Miller


Editor's note: Pure Horserace is a daily update of political news as interpreted by the political observers at CBSNews.com. Click here to sign up for the e-mail version.

By Anthony Salvanto, David Miller and Vaughn Ververs
By Anthony Salvanto, David Miller and Vaughn Ververs

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by freedomway1 September 7, 2007 7:17 PM EDT
Fred Thompson is the only Republican candidate who can win against Hillary.

www.fredthompsonforum.com
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by mirmar-2009 September 7, 2007 3:13 PM EDT
How can you take someone serious that wants to do away with 1/2 of the government. We all need to pray that our leader will be a responsible God fearing person. We voted our congress on promises and that hasn''t worked, would Paul try to do away with congress?
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by iaoki September 7, 2007 1:46 PM EDT
Ron Paul Won Post-Debate Text Poll. NH Fox GOP Debate, 9/5/07.

Final Results:

Ron Paul 33%
Huckabee- 18%
Giuliani- 15%
McCain- 14%
Romney- 12%
Hunter- 2%
Tancredo- 2%
Brownback- 1%

DEBATE PHONE POLL RESULT BY FOX:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295969,00.html

Video showing how FOX pathetically try to minimize the result of its own poll:
http://donklephant.com/2007/09/06/why-isnt-ron-paul-taken-more-seriously

The highest point in Debate was discussion between RON PAUL and Huckabee about Iraq. Period.

Please, explain why you do not mention these most important facts in you article. Thank you.

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by radiob-2009 September 7, 2007 9:55 AM EDT
Poodles competing in the Itarod, the Whippet and the Greyhound sponsored by the "golden elephants and the golden donkeys" .
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by grant323 September 7, 2007 4:14 AM EDT
"How many Americans have to die in this war before Mike Huckabee saves face? Answer: It doesn''t matter. We can''t care about them. We must have our honor back."

We never bought the line "either you are with us or with the terrorists" and we ain''t buying it now. Lives are on the line and all Mr. Huckabee cares about is saving face. Well, sir, what if we can never leave that country with honor? We certainly can''t do it now. What then? How many have to die before you are man enough to admit a mistake? Sir, you sicken me.
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by socrates392 September 7, 2007 3:05 AM EDT
I am so thankful for our military fighting for our freedom. It is such a shame to see how so many people think that we should come home now.
If we do I hope these same people are ready to take up the fight on there door steps to protect there freedom. Yes we would all like to see our men & women come home. What do you think the previous wars were about? Have faith and pray for our leaders and military instead of bashing them.

Posted by mirmar at 10:31 PM : Sep 06, 2007

You are clearly a good person and I take your thoughts seriously, but would care to elaborate on how ending the war in Iraq will lead to a "fight on [our] doorsteps"? The war in Iraq has nothing to do with the war on terror. There never was any connection between Al Qaeda and Sadam Hussein. Most of the people killing our troops in Iraq are members of Suni and Shia militias, not Al Qaeda. Moreover, it seems extremely unlikely to me that the Al Qaeda militants who are in Iraq are suddenly going to appear on "our doorsteps" if the war does end. If they could get here and kill Americans, they would have done it already. Iraq is a lot closer and a lot easier to get to than America for most of these people. So, in a way, the war in Iraq is just making it easier for Al Qaeda to kill Americans.

If you disagree, I''d appreciate to hear your response.
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by mirmar-2009 September 7, 2007 1:31 AM EDT
I am so thankful for our military fighting for our freedom. It is such a shame to see how so many people think that we should come home now.
If we do I hope these same people are ready to take up the fight on there door steps to protect there freedom. Yes we would all like to see our men & women come home. What do you think the previous wars were about? Have faith and pray for our leaders and military instead of bashing them.
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by e_k_i_m September 6, 2007 10:38 PM EDT
Pure horse**it

I am sick of the fear and greed message of the Republican puppet show.
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by bhayl September 6, 2007 7:37 PM EDT
Yet another candidate that wants to continue a war that 70% of the American populace objects to. And this deserves massive news coverage because... ?
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by pierson98 September 6, 2007 6:46 PM EDT

I''ll take Ron Paul over any of them.

This war machine is costing us dearly and doing us no good.
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