February 11, 2009 4:16 PM

Judge Strikes Down Parts Of Patriot Act

(CBS/AP)  A federal judge struck down parts of the revised USA Patriot Act as unconstitutional Thursday, saying courts must be allowed to supervise cases where the government orders Internet providers to turn over records without telling customers.

U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero said the government orders must be subject to meaningful judicial review and that the recently rewritten Patriot Act "offends the fundamental constitutional principles of checks and balances and separation of powers."

The law had been challenged by the American Civil Liberties Union, which complained that the revised law allowed the FBI to demand records without the kind of court order required for other government searches.

The ACLU said it was improper to issue so-called national security letters, or NSLs - investigative tools used by the FBI to compel businesses to turn over customer information - without a judge's order or grand jury subpoena. Examples of such businesses include Internet service providers, telephone companies and public libraries.

"The good news for civil libertarians is that the ruling puts this part of the Patriot Act into doubt," said CBS News legal analyst Andrew Cohen. "The bad news is that the ruling almost certainly will be appealed to more conservative judges and that even if they also say the law goes too far, Congress retains the right to step back in again and tweak the rules.

"The issue is far from a novel one - who gets to decide what companies can say to their customers when the government forces those companies to turn over certain records? Does a judge get to decide or do federal law enforcement agents? It's a question that has been debated since before 9/11," Cohen said.

Jameel Jaffer, who argued the case for the ACLU, said, "We're very pleased with the decision."

He said the revised law had wrongly given the FBI sweeping authority to control speech because the agency was allowed to decide on its own - without court review - whether a company receiving an NSL had to remain silent or whether it could reveal to its customers that it was turning over records.

Yusill Scribner, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's office, said the government had no immediate comment on the ruling.

In 2004, ruling on the initial version of the Patriot Act, the judge said the letters violate the Constitution because they amounted to unreasonable search and seizure. He found that the nondisclosure requirement - under which an Internet service provider, for instance, would not be allowed to tell customers that it was turning over their records to the government - violated free speech.

After he ruled, Congress revised the Patriot Act in 2005, and the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals directed that Marrero review the law's constitutionality a second time.

Marrero originally ruled in a case pertaining to an unidentified Internet service provider that received one of the letters, in which the FBI claimed that phone or Internet records were "relevant to an authorized investigation to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities."

The ACLU complained that Congress' revision of the NSL law didn't go far enough to protect people because the government could still order companies to turn over their records, and remain silent about it, if the FBI determined that the case involved national security.

The judge said the way the law was written "reflects an attempt by Congress and the executive to infringe upon the judiciary's designated role under the Constitution."

He added: "It is axiomatic that in our system of government it is the province of the courts to say what the law is. When Congress attempts to curtail or supersede this role, it jeopardizes the delicate balance of powers among the three branches of government and endangers the very foundations of our constitutional system."

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by oakishpines September 8, 2007 10:15 AM EDT


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by cyinzl8r September 7, 2007 11:31 PM EDT
Always remember that the Patriot Act, hundreds of pages long, was supposedly written in two short weeks after 9/11 and was never given a hearing or otherwise reviewed because somebody mailed deadly anthrax letters to the Democratic leaders, only the Democrats, in the Senate which totally shut down their offices, accesss to their computers, files and mail for five months until the Republicans could take majority control. The source of this highly refined anthrax was determined by the FBI to have been the Fort Dietrich Army lab in Maryland.
Posted by urthsong at 04:47 AM : Sep 07, 2007

A new conspiracy!!! I haven''t heard this one before Too F''n funny. Here I thought you left nuts spouted the same *** day after day and then I see a new one. Way to go. I was getting tired of seeing the controlled demolition of 911 every day.
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by nggr September 7, 2007 11:26 PM EDT
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Posted by MichelleM99 at 06:01 PM : Sep 07, 2007

wait a second, we may have a winner!!?
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Posted by camposanto at 07:20 PM : Sep 07, 2007

this is funny!
Posted by nggr at 08:04 PM : Sep 07, 2007


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by michellem99-2009 September 7, 2007 9:01 PM EDT
The fore fathers were smart. They would be sad to see the that Bush''s damages. The fool hates the constution and has saw so. BUSH *IT IS JUST A GODD@MN PIECE OF PAPER....* Yer an asre sir.
It is what this nation is and be up held. Bush put in place his people who will/do his bidding. You think he cares about America. He don''t and never did. He belongs to a secret group. A white male only SKULL AND BONES..THE FREE MASONS are in the same style group. Money talks. The nanny govt..have no faith in it. I am a legally blind 52 year old lady.
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by libsluvsuvs September 7, 2007 7:07 PM EDT
Posted by GunOwnerDan at 03:47 PM : Sep 07, 2007
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well work on that one. Since you are a gun owner I am sure you would love to use it. expect this kind of news heading but instead of germany..insert the name of that sh*thole you live in..make sure you shoot the right people. I put in a little insert on what perhaps might be osama''s dismay on how slow you guys are working

Germany Hunts 10 More Terror Suspects
Investigation Into Foiled Attack On Germany And America Sparks Security And Spying Debate

"The speaker seems to criticize Democrats and their lack of action in pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq. He reportedly makes references to Democrats'' campaign promises to start a withdrawal and notes the failure to follow up."

tell osama to make sure he keep his turban low down that foxhole..and love what he did with his hair.


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by libsluvsuvs September 7, 2007 7:02 PM EDT
Posted by GunOwnerDan at 03:47 PM : Sep 07, 2007
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really??germany was attacked that is why Adolf implemeted that ACT? well I''ll be ***..

who was culprit?? well did Hitler had a body of politicans to inspect, revise and critique his act??was there a judge who stiked down any part of that act??

another netroot garbageman...give it a rest.
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by gunownerdan September 7, 2007 6:47 PM EDT
The "Patriot Act" seems to be like Adolf Hitler''s "Enabling Act".
Both were forced upon the people for very similar reasons.
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by julyrocket September 7, 2007 6:09 PM EDT
If we want to end this madness of government there is one great solution: Re-register as a republican and vote for Ron Paul for President in 2008. End government shredding the Constitution. End the oil wars.
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by tucano2 September 7, 2007 5:15 PM EDT
Of course the entire bill is not only unconstitutional it is wrong. Knocking down a little bit of it is akin to melting one snowflake during a blizzard.
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