GOP's Problems Much Bigger Than Bush

The Skinny: Republican Pollster Says Party May Have Grown Too Old And Too Conservative

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Young voters, Hispanics and independents are drifting away from the Republican party, and not even the end of Bush's bumpy tenure will likely help bring them back, the Wall Street Journal reports.

Recent voter surveys, including private polling done by a leading Republican strategist, suggest "Republicans face structural problems that stem from generational, demographic and societal changes and aren't easily overcome without changing fundamental party positions," according to the Journal.

The main reasons for drift include the "Iraq war, conservatives' emphasis on social issues such as gay marriage, abortion and stem-cell research, and a party-led backlash against illegal immigrants that has left many Hispanics and Asian Americans citizens feeling unwelcome," the Journal reports.

Longtime Republican pollster Tony Fabrizio conducted a major survey of his party's voters this year, and compared it to a similar one in 1997. He found his party had gotten much older and more conservative in the last decade.

In the current survey, 17 percent of Republicans are 18 to 34 years old, down from 25 percent in 1997. Republicans 55 and older constitute 41 percent of the party - up from 28 percent a decade ago. By 53 percent to 42 percent, Republicans say the party "has spent too much time focusing on moral issues" rather than economic ones.

Such trends, Fabrizio told the Journal, means the GOP is increasingly at risk of being seen "as very old-fashioned, very old and not in touch with the realities of today's society."

Falling Out Of Love With Republicans

Out-of-touch with the realities of a rapidly changing society was how Goldwater Girl Hillary Clinton came to see the Republican Party during her years at Wellesley College, according to a profile in today's New York Times.

The article focuses on the politically turbulent year of 1968, which spanned Clinton's junior and seniors years, as the cauldron of her transformation from Barry Goldwater-boosting Republican to anti-war Democrat.

But, like most Clinton profiles, along the way it picks up telling details to reinforce the public's current opinion of the candidate. For example, the bold graduation speech "whose public rebuke of a Republican senator won her notice in Life magazine as the voice of her generation" was handwritten, with crossed-out sentences and scrawled insertions. "Yet Ms. Rodham's words are neatly contained between tight margins," the Times notes, sounding the article's underlying theme.

Hillary was brilliant and ambitions, the kind of student "who wrote thank-you notes to the professors who helped her." While outspoken and blunt, she was "hardly a bombthrower." She also seems to be something of a goofball. She bought a dreadful pair of clunky, mud-colored shoes because she "felt sorry for them," she told a friend. A photo shows her in a knee-kissing pleated skirt may also help explain her preference for pantsuits.

Even as early as 1966, Clinton wrote a minister back home that her "opinions on most human conditions were being liberalized," and "the combination of bleeding heart liberal and mental conservative is the inevitable conclusion one arrives at after following and pondering political events."

The assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. "devastated" her, while witnessing the mayhem of the Democratic Convention in Chicago left her "shocked" by the brutality of protesters throwing rocks and police beating protesters.

Together, they left her politically committed, but as square as the toes on those dreadful shoes. In "Living History" she describes how she and her friend discussed the Chicago riots in the ensuring months how, if there ever was a revolution, "We would never participate."

"I was rooted in the political approach that understood that you can't just take to the streets and make change in America," she told the Times in an interview. "You can't just give a speech and expect people to fall down and agree with you."

Black Magic And Red Politics

Grave-robbing is on the rise in Venezuela, but not for the usual plunder of gold jewelry and dental fillings, the Los Angeles Times reports. These days, robbers want human bones to sell for big bucks to paleros, practitioners of a black magic cult related to Santeria whose rising popularity is spurred by a mix of faith and politics.

Although most Santeria followers steer clear of the use of human remains and Satanism, the paleros embrace them, using the bones in rituals to cast evil spells on enemies, according to the resident priest of a recently plundered cemetery.

Some anthropoligsts are blaming the weakening Catholic church for the spooky rituals, but others see causes that are more worldly. They say the government of leftist President Hugo Chavez is encouraging the rise of Santeria to counter the authority of the Catholic Church, which Chavez has viewed as his enemy.

Many church leaders are blaming the rise of Santeria on Cuba, which they way are exporting babablos - or Santeria shamans -- along with doctors, teachers and sports trainers to Venezuela as part of closer economic relations with Chavez.

In a television talk show, Chavez has denied that he was a believer in black magic, but he is known "to be a mystic of sorts," reports the Times. Some say he believes he is the reincarnation of 19th-century Venezuelan leader, Ezequiel Zamora.

It does make you wonder, though. When Chavez famously announced at the U.N. a year ago that President Bush was "the devil," was he speaking of the underworld through more intimate personal experience than anyone guessed at the time?

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[space_poet]

That''s what happens when you become the party of greed, bigotry, division, and intolerance, young people will turn away to more open and liberal philosophies. What this country needs more than anything, is a viable 3rd party that has equality on the political spectrum, but neither the Dems or Reps want that to happen. They want all power consolidated for them to run. Our government has become a monster unto itself...

[glossypan]

Remember, the first Tuesday in November is "Larry Craig Is Not Gay" day. Prod your elected representatives to enact this into law.

[cbs4me3]

So, why be surprised? They have caused a great divide in America, and now they reap the results of their actions. And, they are so splintered that they cannot communicate among themselves.

But, this is life and things are always brought into balance. The republicans are on the wrong side of this correction and pay the consequences.
Unfortunately for them, the light at the end of the tunnel is nowhere to be seen.

[micma-2009]

The Republican party abandoned key principles in favor of a slick empty message that the American people have begun to see through. In the end, they don''t stand for anything but big corporations and special interests.

[notblue]

Well, I guess the Democrats don''t have any problems, just the Republicans, another fair an balanced article from CBS news. What a joke!

[brianbwb-2009]

That''''s what happens when you become the party of greed, bigotry, division, and intolerance,...Posted by Space_Poet

If I might add, the Democrats are exactly the same, they are just a little better at concealing their true nature.

Basically they are both sides made up of rich, "white" males, the vast majority of which never actually worked for a living, and their followers, who wish to believe the snake oil they both sell.

Good cop (Dems), bad cop (GOP), but both corrupt cops...

[randaids]

I can''t believe that the trolls aren''t yet crucifing Bush once again.

[mudrose-2009]

The people are ready for Big Government Morality. The Nanny Government is going to protect all the little groups under its rainbow coalition. They are the party of everybody and hence the party of nobody.

Good article. Fair and balanced as usual.

[realpatriot1]

How did an anlysis of Republican problems become a Hillary lovefest? Although I agree with the conclusions, this is just an opinion piece that talks about voter trends without offering any polling to back up the contentions. Why even write it?

Well, it is a good topic anyway. The truth is that the G.O.P.s problems go much deeper than Bush, but getting rid of Bush will be a giants step on the way back.

What will also undoubtedly serve to bring the Republicans back, as it has in the past, is Democratic arrogance and overconfidence.

I expect that 2008 will be a bloodbath for the G.O.P. but the Democrats had better be ready with leadership of its own to handle the mess that Bush is going to leave behind and a committment to clean up its own house. Otherwise, the G.O.P. may come back sooner than people think possible.

[terrapin78]

The Republican party abandoned key principles in favor of a slick empty message that the American people have begun to see through. In the end, they don''''t stand for anything but big corporations and special interests.

Posted by micma at 10:33 AM : Sep 05, 2007


Don''t forget the Evangelicals!

[nexgen99]

In other words, naive young people who want to tip toe through the tulips or who have parents who can%u2019t seem to teach their children respect for their country and patriotism and a strong set of moral values will vote Democratic. Gee he we go down the shi.t.t.e.r again.

[Razzl]

"The people are ready for Big Government Morality. The Nanny Government is going to protect all the little groups under its rainbow coalition. They are the party of everybody and hence the party of nobody."

If you''re an ordinary person living life and minding your own business and suddenly find yourself a target of an organized hate group, the GOP, which hispanics, ***, unmarried couples, pregnant women, asians, and blacks all find themselves to be, which party would you choose? The Democratic party is the party of the people, not the party of "everybody"--those who hold themselves above the rest of us, like the evangelicals, southerners, capitalists, and neocons, still have the freedom not to belong thanks to the Democratic Party''s commitment to the Constitution, the freedom they want to deny the rest of us.

[glossypan]

Political Parties 101: The Democratic Party now works basically for the good of the people. The Republican Party works for the benefit of Megacorporations. The natural constituency for the present Republican agenda is very small. They rely on hot button issues (*** and guns to quote Karl Rove,head shepherd) to get the sheeple to mark an X by the R candidate. This has not always been the case and I hope more traditional Republicans soon retake the party. The Republicans gave us Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower.

[bluestardad]

STICK A FORK IN THEM THE REPUBLICANS ARE DONE

[glb1969]

Let''s face it, society has moved on from the archaic positions of the repulican party. No decently educated young person wants to be associated with aparty of exclusion, a party that actively seeks to destroy the environment all for a profit, a party that that dehumanizes those who disagree with it, a party more ceoncerned with blind devotion than discussion of diverse issues, and most importantly a party that is pro religion.

In time people will view repuplicans and conservatives as just one more party that failed to evolve with the times.

[clestes-2009]

This is what I have been saying!!!

The new American voters of today are NOT the voters of 20 years ago or even 10.

Things have changed!! The new American voter is much more interested in global warming, in new types of energy besides fossil fuels, in working together as a world community to fight terrorism.

The kids that have come of age during Bush''s presidency have seen what troubles come from war, what global warming is doing to their planet, and they are NOT going to follow that same road!!!

The rep dynasty of Rove was never based on reality!!! The times of Reagan/Bush/Bush are over and dead.

[nyckate]

In order to gain power the GOP let the nutjob religious right core take control of their party - now when we think GOP we think corrupt, bullies, closet homosexuals, drunks, womanizers, thugs who govern for their own benefit, their own wacked out idealogies and of course the betterment of the wealthy corporate sponsors. Bush has taken deceit, bullying, thuggery, lying, cronyism to a whole new level and America to a whole new low.

[mcvet]

In other words, naive young people who want to tip toe through the tulips or who have parents who can%u2019t seem to teach their children respect for their country and patriotism and a strong set of moral values will vote Democratic. Gee he we go down the shi.t.t.e.r again.
Posted by nexgen99 at 11:09 AM : Sep 05, 2007

THIS is FASCISM 101 folks. Regardless of what history has to teach us, regardless of ALL the failure we see, regardless of truth and fact, YOU must hate those who do not agree with the small minds that is the present day Republican Party. I like to think we can and will be like the GREATEST Generation, spreading our wings, pushing the envelope, doing what so many before us did. We CAN change the World and we CAN make life better for Working American''s who have seen their Standard of Living Drop to the Bottom of the "Rich" Nations. You can buy this hate and division, this attempt to put EVERYONE and EVERY Idea that doesn''t fit their view in a box... you can do that but you are a Fascist if you do!! That''s what FASCISM is all about!! Sieg Heil Bush!!

[nyckate]

clestes - problem for today''s GOP is that they took everything they had and put it on Bush - and they''ve shown no ability to learn from their mistakes sunce Rudy is their front-runner - another extremely immature, bullying, thug who believes in onyl his own extrelemy over-inflated sense of self, who like Bush has an overriding need to surround himself with incompetent cronies and who knows that half of america can be fooled with the same old soundbites.

[johnny343sc]

Yet again, and without fail, CBS "News" is running anti-Republican stories.

Just like the "Obama bin Laden" story and every "Go Hillary" cheer they make from this website on a daily basis...

... Yes, we''re keeping count!

[nexgen99]

Political Parties 101: The Democratic Party now works basically for the good of the people. The Republican Party works for the benefit of Megacorporations.
Posted by glossypan at 11:12 AM : Sep 05, 2007
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The simple fact is that the Democrats want to create a hole new class of socially dependent individuals that they can feed offer for years to come. They want to get back to the welfare days where large blocks of the population were dependent on welfare and social programs. This way they will continue to vote democratic so they can continue to live off the sweat of everyone else. The Democrats do not work for the people, they word against the people.

[mcvet]

I knew this was coming, Larry Craig is being reported to abort his resignation and become a menber of the democratic party. AS many of you heard the out in left field bloggers are welcoming him into our party
Posted by airmanc5 at 10:58 AM : Sep 05, 2007

Why shouldn''t they? The Democrat Party didn''t run elections on Hate and Division. He paid his price to society and he has as many rights as you Nazi''s do. The Democrat Party is a party where EVERYONE''s Voice will be heard and EVERYONE''s Idea''s will get a hearing. To turn people away because the OTHER PARTY hates them??? Just think were we''d be if this nation had done this in the past? I''m not saying I''d vote for Craig, I''m not in his state but welcome him to the party... you bet!

[randaids]

OK now we''re all here. Let the insults begin or like one of my favortie poster like to say:

NOW REACT

[nexgen99]

MCVet.. Where do you get you facts? Maybe your standard of living has dropped because your a union worker who can''t make it on his own. But don''t worry, union participation is dropping like a cannon ball and soon even you will be able to choose your own destiny.

[mcvet]

Yet again, and without fail, CBS "News" is running anti-Republican stories.

Just like the "Obama bin Laden" story and every "Go Hillary" cheer they make from this website on a daily basis...

... Yes, we''''re keeping count!
Posted by johnny343sc at 11:30 AM : Sep 05, 2007

LOL And your point is? Look who''s interested in the Republican Canidates, they just want more of the Same. The Democrats have Idea''s and positions to look at, so why shouldn''t America do just that. After all it was YOU nazi''s who insisted on trashing the "Fairness Provisions" at the Fed level. When your party HAS the sitting President the position of YOUR party get''s plenty of Air Sparky! Or don''t you count the Nazi in Charge? So who should determine what we see and hear? The citizens who BUY the programs or you clowns who haven''t been very successful lately? I''ll stick with the Free Press and the word FREE means just that FREE!! Sieg Heil Bush!!

[clestes-2009]

nyckate

Rudy is a joke. He won''t get past the primaries and in any other time he would never be considered as a candidate. A fcking mayor as president?? No way.

The rep are lost. The country has changed and is changing faster than they realize. They are using old rules and old thoguhts that have no residence with America of today. Old rep foggies with money might still believe in the old party line, but not anyone under 55.

[mcvet]

The simple fact is that the Democrats want to create a hole new class of socially dependent individuals that they can feed offer for years to come. They want to get back to the welfare days where large blocks of the population were dependent on welfare and social programs. This way they will continue to vote democratic so they can continue to live off the sweat of everyone else. The Democrats do not work for the people, they word against the people.

Posted by nexgen99 at 11:30 AM : Sep 05, 2007

Now I''ve listened to lot of speeches and read a lot about the Democrat Canidates and this is simply a LIE! How can we possibably fix the bridges that are falling down or the roads that are coming apart IF we do not have a budget that reflects those priorities. All you care about is yourself... well this is a NATION.. It''s called the UNITED STATES... live with it!! Sieg Heil Bush!!

[nottellin1]

The Democrat Party is a party where EVERYONE''''s Voice will be heard and EVERYONE''''s Idea''''s will get a hearing. To turn people away because the OTHER PARTY hates them??? Just think were we''''d be if this nation had done this in the past? I''''m not saying I''''d vote for Craig, I''''m not in his state but welcome him to the party... you bet!
Posted by MCVet at 11:31 AM : Sep 05, 2007

OH REALLY? EVERYONES VOICE??? Then please explain to me why my Democratic Senators completely ignored the majority of voices in regard to immigration reform. I don''t think either party, Dem or Rep is listening to the people.

[mcvet]

MCVet.. Where do you get you facts? Maybe your standard of living has dropped because your a union worker who can''''t make it on his own. But don''''t worry, union participation is dropping like a cannon ball and soon even you will be able to choose your own destiny.
Posted by nexgen99 at 11:35 AM : Sep 05, 2007

Those UNION Worker''s, which I am NOT one of (Disabled Vet) ONCE paid to fix our bridges and our roads. Those Union Workers won a WAR for us and kept us all free. Those Union Workers was the golden goose and we KILLED it. You fascist did make ONE mistake Sparky... you didn''t completely kill them, they are still alive and kicking... Better find a rock to slime off under Sparky, they are coming to get you!! ROFLMAO Look it''s easy to look these things up. The US ranks LOWER than all the other G-7 nations in the Standard of Living! PERIOD! Sieg Heil Bush!!

[antoniof123]

I am amazed but Abe was a product of his time though he was a liberal and most Repbulicans don''t realize that at one time it was the GOP that was the liberal party. Then along came the likes of MaCarthy most of you don''t remember him and his ilk. He was truly the king of slander never had any thing on anyone. He sought to do the same thing that all those like him did before unification through hate. The only problem is that to hate you have to make sure you have the majority all the time and he didn''t to refresh your memorys he died a disgrase. Then along came Nixon the crook of crooks. Then Regan wealth through debt that worked as long as you pass it off to someone else. Enter Bush too much debt and unemployment. Pass it off to Clinton corrected the problem, then came the chimp.

Well, what can I say had the GOP spent as much time trying to keep the promises of Contract with America as they did on the Bill Clinton witch hunt they won''t have this problem.

Of course the GOP (Greed over Principle) was really selling the Contract on America.

[mcvet]

OH REALLY? EVERYONES VOICE??? Then please explain to me why my Democratic Senators completely ignored the majority of voices in regard to immigration reform. I don''''t think either party, Dem or Rep is listening to the people.
Posted by nottellin1 at 11:41 AM : Sep 05, 2007

So you are saying the Democrat Party didn''t listen you YOUR IDEAS? Wrong and you''d know that IF you read something OTHER than the Reich Propaganda... they just didn''t act on it. They have many different ideas about how to deal with our neighbors just NONE of them want to build a wall around us or go out of our way to make the citizens of that nation hate us. That''s where you Fascist have failed the most. You are pretty much hated by the planet because of your hatred and bigotry... Kinda hard for the party of the Civil Rights Act to do the things you folks wanted...doesn''t mean they didn''t listen though! Sieg Heil Bush

[nexgen99]

MCVet... This nation is great because of INDIVIDUALISM. something the Democrats want to crush. You say you have listened to speeches, then you heard Hillary%u2019s speech on how she wants to take from the rich and give to the poor. How she wants income re-distribution. You heard Edwards making the same statements. What is the incentive to grow and succeed if the government is taking all your money and re-distributing it to those who are too lazy to go out and succeed. It%u2019s like the Russians use to say under SOCILAISM %u201CThey pretend to pay us and we pretend to work%u201D

[csmarker1970]

nexgen99 - Democrats do not work against the people. They are the party of labor, civil rights and the common man. Republicans on the other hand would rather pave the world if they can make a buck on it, mow down trees via logging practices beyond belief, sell out the jobs of this country to others.. the list goes on. I''m surprised you would actually defend President Idiot.. I mean Bush... Your party has continually shot themselves in the foot time and again. Did you remember that we''re at war?.. an UNjust war at that. Your party has a lot of blood on its hands. You should be embarrassed.

[nexgen99]

Those Union Workers was the golden goose and we KILLED it. You fascist did make ONE mistake Sparky... you didn''''t completely kill them, they are still alive and kicking... Better find a rock to slime off under Sparky, Posted my MCVet.
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You mean those unions workers who have destroyed productivity at our Automotive plants and have caused companies like GM and FORD to loose market share. You mean those union workers who have failed our school children. Your mean those union workers who think they are entitled to life time health care and full pay if they get laid off. I guess that''s why all the American workers at Toyota, Honda, and the other American based foreign manufacturers have chosen not to unionize Your nuts.

[nexgen99]

csmarker1970.. Gee I don''t know about you but those Bush tax cuts helped me and the economy. But I guess your just one of those needy types who feels you need a nanny to support you.

[glossypan]

Republicans; One of your own is being persecuted by a Radical Liberal organization known as a police department. They even refused to honor his I am a Senator card. Help restore the good name of a party stalwart. Call your representatives and demand they support "Larry Craig Is Not Gay Day" on the first Tuesday of each November.

[drummer94]

Amazing. The poll and analysis of it is conducted by a long time repugnant pollster, and some of these idiots are beefin about it. Amazing. Face it. The grand old party is about dead in the water.

[j4401]

The Real Reason We''re In Iraq: An influential group of conservatives convinced President George W. Bush that it was in America''s best interests to conquer Iraq as a first step toward dominating the oil-producing nations in the Middle East. There was no "exit plan" because we never intended to exit. The plan was, and is, to build military bases in Iraq and stay there forever. Our leaders see Iraq as a place to make money. So Bush & Co. have set up their friends to cash in on the rebuilding of Iraq.

[jjp735i]

I agree the Republican party has spent too much time focusing on moral issues, trying to tell people how they should live. Along they are having affairs, chasing after little boys and taking bribes. In other words they are no different then the rest of us, yet demand people live a moral life that they decide we should live. the Republican Party is nothing more than a group of morals police. Only they don''t have to follow those same morals. They are above the rest of us. Like the Taliban or Nazi Party, they demand we live like they say and not like they do.

[tyjohn47]

What is destroying the Big Three''s market share isn''t completely attributable to having to pay union workers a good wage and great bennies. It has a lot more to do with the fact that fuel economy standards outside of the US make it almost impossible for Ford, GM and Chrysler to sell many if not most of their models outside the US. Where as in the past when fuel economy standards did not exist anywhere in the world, they could sell almost as many gas-guzzlers overseas as they could ship.

In short, the Big 3 have not adjusted to the changing world market and instead have chosen to continue to market low fuel economy rides to the US market. Now, with more US drivers each day paying closer attention to fuel economy, their share of the US market has begun to shrink too.

[realpatriot1]

Nexgen99,

Did you ever consider that maybe the problem for Detroit was selling gas guzzlers while the Japanese and other global suppliers were developing fuel efficient vehicle? That was a management decision, but I''m sure the union is somehow responsible.

By the way, republicans tried to build the country with individualism in the 20s & the 80s and the Dems had to save the country from their selfish stupidity both times. Now we''re going to have to do it again by practicing the fiscal discipline that the G.O.P. can only talk about. Bush failed our shcool children when he left the no child left behind funding behind.

You are one twisted dude. They''re coming out of the woodwork today.

[bareemperor]

Except for their criminal activities, the Republican party has died.
However, their Diebold payoffs should guarantee election victories into the next century.

[nexgen99]

realpatriot. Oh really do tell how did the DEms save the country from the 80''s. You mean the smoke and mirrors dot.com economy of Clinton era where millions lost their jobs when all those fake companines went belly up. Is that how the Democrats save America?

[mudrose-2009]

"Mission Accomplished", you pack of CLOWNS. now gettouda heeeah !!!!! Go on down to "The Ranch" for some BBQ. The Marshalls will be along soon to escourt into custody.
Posted by mascarponi

Hey cheese poop, are the libos going to close the borders or are they just gonna let everybody in?

[pepperp1]

The President was a drunk until middle age, has a DUI conviction, peers can not recall him even showing up in for his Guard duty during Vietnam yet the Chickenhawk sends our soldier to die in Iraq a war of his parties choosing



The Vice President shot a friend in the face after consuming alcohol, and collects blood money from Stock Options worth millions for record profits no bid federal contractor Halliburton

One of the Presidents assistants and VP chief of staff was convicted of 5 felonies while perfoming offical business

The former Whip the hammer, a man of dubious character, is under felony indictment

9 Members home have been raided by the FBI


And on and on, 20 bucks for a blower in a little league park, preying on underage Pages entrusted to Congress

Good thing they have the Religious types on their side, because most of us on the left would not ever forgive let alone vote for any of these slimes

And all this guy wanted was *** in a public toilet and now they have moral outrage

[thinkharder-]

What is the incentive to grow and succeed if the government is taking all your money and re-distributing it to those who are too lazy to go out and succeed.
Posted by nexgen99

There...there in lyes your problem my friend...your intolerably jaded attitude towards your fellow Americans. When a CEO is making 65 times the avergae salary of a company employee and we complain, sure...we must just be a bunch of lazy Aholes incapable of making a buck of our own. OR...perhaps we are just angry with the frightening rate in which the gap has grown between the rich and poor these past few years and feel that wealth would be better serving in the hands of the many rather than the few. When a few figurehead leaders are making gross profits off of the hard work of their underpaid subordinates...I call that disgraceful.

I also caught wind in an earlier comment about how the DEMS are trying to create a breed of socially dependent people to provide them a steady voting block to adhere to. This is actually a great concern...I concur. But is it the case? It would be impossible to generate that type of monopoly on the population without creeping in on communism, and that my friend will never happen in this country. I am looking for a good leader. A conciensious, hard working, open minded, in touch, fair LEADER is what this counrty needs. I see a few, but all these petty differences make the DEMS and REPS look like the same piece of SxHxIxT cut in half.

[tyjohn47]

Not only does a Republican pollster tell the party faithful they''re in trouble but a right-wing publication (WSJ) puts it out there for all the righties to see: You''re out of touch and looking more and more like dinosaurs every day that passes. But in the fantasy existence of a typical neo-con, the torchbearers for the GOP (Grumpy Old People) in this online forum don''t understand it and will never buy it.

[dodaz-2009]

Memo: GOP is now the
"G-ay O-ld P-eople"...Party...lol,,,according to soon to be FORMER Sen. Craig....lol

''jus kiddin'' juuuuuussss'' kiddin''....sort of.

[donnie900]

Well democrats aren''t any better. I mean, democrats are charlatans and perpetual naggers! Who rely on tabloid hype to spark interest in their also dead electoral viability.

Its not just a lack of faith in Republicans, though it shows up the most with them. But government in general. They''re all just a buncha ******** showboats.

[nexgen99]

ThinkHarder. you really need to ThinkHarder. The Democrats are not talking about taking money from CEO''s their talking about taking money from the middle class. Do you really think they are going to **** off those that butter their bread. They are going to suppress the middle class, They are going to try to force unions down everyone throats . You think they care about you. It was the Democrats that tried to block the law that would grant Americans immunity from law suits if they pointed out suspicious behavior by middle easterners. They wanted to allow those 6 muslim clerics to sue the Americans that reported them. Your falling into the same old Democratic trap.