BAGHDAD, Iraq

Better Days Ahead For Baghdad?

No. 2 U.S. Commander In Iraq Says Surge And Change In Strategy Are Making A Difference

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    Katie Couric with U.S. General Raymond Odierno.  (CBS)

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(CBS)  As second in command, few have logged more miles to Iraq's most dangerous places.

"I'm still not happy with the level of security," Gen. Raymond Odierno tells CBS Evening News anchor and managing editor Katie Couric. "The places we’re going are in good shape, but there are still areas that aren't."

But Odierno's most critical battle may be the one he faces in the capital of Baghdad - a city that's a shell of its former self.

Of the 30,000 additional troops sent to Iraq for the surge, more than 26,000 were deployed to secure Baghdad. But since January, there's been a new strategy: Iraqi army and police work with U.S. forces in dozens of joint security stations - small police stations scattered through the area.

"What we did is, when we were on the outskirts, we would drive in every day to conduct patrols. kind of like taking a trip through the city. Now you're here permanently; you can walk outside,” Odierno says.

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"With Iraqi forces," adds Couric.

"But so people get used to us. They get confidence in us - and, more importantly, it builds confidence in the Iraqi security forces," Odierno said.

The Iraqis know the neighborhood; the Americans have the know-how and the gear.

In one of the poorest sections of the city, residents are particularly vulnerable to militants and criminals who may want to recruit or exploit them. There are simple signs of life that Odierno says are good signs.

"Something as simple as sweeping it up is a positive?" asks Couric.

"It shows confidence," Odierno says. "Before security, they didn't care."

But there's more to this than sweeping up trash. U.S. reconstruction teams have doled out almost $600,000 in grants in east Baghdad alone to reopen businesses like bookstores at the city's famous Mutanabi market, which was nearly destroyed last March by a car bomb that killed 54.

Why was it important for this street to reopen and books to be sold in Baghdad?

"It's practically the most important thing. It's how we communicate,"
says a bookseller.

Odierno took Couric across the river to Haifa Street, the scene of an intense and important battle earlier this year.

Now it's a military public works project. Concrete barricades that keep car bombers out have been painted by local Iraqis. At a nearby market, the daily hustle and bustle of life is being seen and heard again.

U.S. Army Col. Bryan Roberts, of the 1st Cavalry Division, explains how the market has changed.

"Just the sheer number of stores that are open now compared to even last month. So January, February, the market was not open at all. Then in March, a few stores. In April, a few more. There are over a thousand stores open here now."

But alongside the smell of olives and Middle Eastern bread, there's the continued threat of violence.

One shopkeeper told Couric he did feel safer, but was still afraid of drive-by shootings.

An 11-year-old said he wasn't scared, and was surprisingly casual about the latest incident in his neighborhood.

"Yesterday a little kid got killed; got shot right here,: he said.

"A little kid?" asks Couric.

"A baby," he replies through a translator. How? "Small arms fire between two groups and she got caught in the middle."

The city is still rife with sectarian violence, al Qaeda, militias and criminal gangs. This past Saturday, four people were killed in a random shooting; one person was killed, and one wounded by a mortar attack. A roadside bomb wounded three Iraqi policemen, and scattered around the city, the bodies of 15 people were found. But that's a significant drop from last year, when an average of 85 people a day were being killed here.

"We've seen a reduction in incidents. We've seen a reduction in car bombs and truck bombs. We've seen a reduction in explosive IEDs in Baghdad. So the signs are good," says Odierno.

And as for the state of the Iraqi army?

"It'll take us a while longer to continue to get them to the strength necessary and trained at the level that we expect them to be at in order to maintain that control," says Odierno. "But the key piece that we are seeing is the fact that that populace is rejecting those troops, and that's the first step."

This is psychological warfare, Baghdad style. It’s an effort to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people by turning them against extremists - and convincing them that U.S. and Iraqi soldiers are here to keep them safe and improve their lives.



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by pastdue1 September 5, 2007 7:30 PM PDT
"It''ll take us a while longer to continue to get them to the strength necessary and trained at the level that we expect them to be at in order to maintain that control," says Odierno.

Does it take this long to train our young recruits that we are sending to Iraq? Doubtful, since among the dead we see 18 and 19 yr olds. Why is it taking so much longer to train Iraqis? It''s been 4 years, that they continually haven''t been trained well enough? Kind of inexplicable, isn''t it?
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by starleo146 September 5, 2007 7:41 PM PDT
How long is our basic training. Our government is offering 2000.00 If they sign up and I think after basic straight to Iraq. These guys Iraqi have had 4 years and still do not know how to fight and I understand they just need to close up all police stations they are useless HELLO!! No security huh? What are you trying to tell us Bush some more lies.
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by starleo146 September 5, 2007 7:45 PM PDT
How long is our basic training. Our government is offering 2000.00 If they sign up and I think after basic straight to Iraq. These guys Iraqi have had 4 years and still do not know how to fight and I understand they just need to close up all police stations they are useless HELLO!! No security huh? What are you trying to tell us Bush some more lies.
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by gbutcher2 September 5, 2007 7:52 PM PDT
i too still find it hard to believe that it has taken this long to train the iraqi''s. however.. we have to look at it froma different point of view.. my husband is a SSG with the Cav scouts that are currently deployed there. he tells me that the sheer number of people in iraq alone is one of the reasons that they have not had enough training. those that do sign up to be on iraqi security forces sometimes go bad, get kidnapped, or possibly killed just for working with our soldiers. Therefore a whole new group of iraqis have to be trained daily and for a while. there is also a language barrier. Though our basic training here in the states generally run 9 weeks, we also have to take into consideration we have to over come the language barrier and they still have to be trained in a skill just like our guys. They do basic training.. for physical strengthening mostly, then move on to learning thier special skill for thier actual job which could take any where from 3 months to a year..
though i dont like the fact that this war has gon on long enough and that our soldiers die everyday for a war that may not end until we leave.. i also understand why it takes so long..
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by krenz4 September 5, 2007 8:11 PM PDT
It doesnt take that long to train ANY troops! The reason that it is taking so long is that they (the Iraqis) are stalling and infiltrating our ranks. We are outfitting them with our equipment that they will, when the signal is given, turn on us. The longer they stall, the more of our sons and fathers they can kill. and the more inside information they can gain. I love America but we are the stupidest, most gullible and naive country on earth. and we are doubly so to believe that ANYONE in Iraq is he;ping us.
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by pastdue1 September 5, 2007 8:33 PM PDT
those that do sign up to be on iraqi security forces sometimes go bad, get kidnapped, or possibly killed just for working with our soldiers. Therefore a whole new group of iraqis have to be trained daily and for a while. there is also a language barrier" Posted by gbutcher2 at 07:52 PM : Sep 05, 2007

Wouldn''t you agree then, that whatever we do, however many young Americans we kill, however many Iraqis are killed, however much money we spend that we are merely just spinning our wheels by doing what we have been doing the last 4 years? It seems that after 4 years of doing the same thing that we should be able to try a new plan, something that is not so failure-prone.
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by gbutcher2 September 5, 2007 9:29 PM PDT
in my opinion.. yea i do think that we are spinning our wheels.. i dont necessarily support the war in any way.. except to give my husband the support he needs to do whatever he is told and to get home safely..
and i must ask Krenz4... have u been in the military?? have u been trained to be a soldier..
we didnt make our whole military outfit in 9 weeks... it takes years and i think that the fact there are still people in after 20 years and still find ways to help all the new recruits .. proves.. training troops is a never ending cycle. and until the iraqi''s have a decent military outfit.. our boys probably wont come home unless the next president has the balls to pull them out.
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by feelfree1 September 5, 2007 9:29 PM PDT

Why should anyone care about the opinion of a war criminal like General Odierno, as he is interviewed by Corporate tool, Katie Couric?

Again, while reports about the ficticious "al-Qaeda-in-Iraq" group were nearly nonexistent just a couple of days ago, we note a substantial increase in unsupported claims about this nonexistent group, as the various war criminals, cowards, and liars seek to justify the continuance of the brutal, disgraceful, and illegal invasion of Iraq.
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by pastdue1 September 5, 2007 10:20 PM PDT
Posted by gbutcher2 at 09:29 PM : Sep 05, 2007
I don''t doubt that you are right that we will have to wait for a new president and I certainly wish you and your husband safety until then.
However, it will be necessary, after we pull our troops out of Iraq that we put many of them back into Afghanistan because it is imperative that we quell al Qaeda there, in other words, finish what we started and cut and run on. FeelFree1 is right, al Qaeda in Iraq is political propaganda designed to garner support for the "surge". And, it seems we are working inordinately hard to convince everyone that Iran is another boogey man, while we continue to remain silent as to Saudi Arabia''s role.
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by feelfree1 September 5, 2007 10:42 PM PDT

pastdue1,

Re: "al Qaeda in Iraq is political propaganda designed to garner support for the "surge"."

Thank you for the support.
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by eyerag1 September 6, 2007 1:26 AM PDT
"This is psychological warfare, Baghdad style."

Couric''s reports are in fact psychological warfare American style, designed to win domestic support for the "surge" and for the war in general.

From the Sydney Morning Herald:

"Even US soldiers assigned to protect General Petraeus''s showcase remain sceptical. "Personally, I think it''s a false representation," Staff Sergeant Campbell said, referring to the portrayal of the Dora market as an emblem of the surge''s success. "But what can I say? I''m just doing my job and don''t ask questions."
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by gslinger3 September 6, 2007 7:30 AM PDT
We ARE winning this war, and will win it outright! This is terrible news for the liberal left who desparately need a US surrender in order to advance politically in 08. They have campainged on us pulling out before the job is finished, now it is obvious they will need to rethink their strategy.
I know......................HOW ABOUT A FLIP FLOP!!!!!!! HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
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by oleander8 September 6, 2007 7:39 AM PDT
Come on, Couric. We all know you were given the VIP guided tour and saw just what the military wanted you to see and hear. Your report is useless. You should be ashamed to call yourself a reporter.
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by drummer94 September 6, 2007 8:42 AM PDT
gslinger3: So you have bloused up your boots and you''re on you way to finish the job then? Didn''t think so.
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by citizenusa-2009 September 6, 2007 9:03 AM PDT
Hey Katie, when you come back to the U.S., why not take a month or two and visit the V.A. Hospitals across the U.S.? Then, and only then, will you be able to truly report whether this war has been a success. Until then, you are nothing more than a tool for the chickenhawks.
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by drummer94 September 6, 2007 9:18 AM PDT
Hey CitizenUSA, do ya find it odd that Katie went to Iraq and then shrub shows up? I''d bet that that is the last time our "premier" anchor shows up outta country cause the bad guys will know somebody big is not too far behind. BOOM!!
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by crater7 September 6, 2007 9:20 AM PDT
WORTH READING! MSNBC;

EXPERTS DOUBT DROP IN VIOLENCE IN IRAQ.

ACCORDING TO ONE SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICAL IN WASHINGTON, " IF A BULLIT WENT THROUGH THE BACK OF THE HEAD, ITS SECTARION," IF IT WENT THROUGH THE FRONT, ITS CRIMINAL".

HMMMMMMMM

STAY THE COURSE...........
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by drummer94 September 6, 2007 11:27 AM PDT
Hey Gen. Odierno: How ''bout them russkie built grenades?
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by citizenusa-2009 September 6, 2007 11:48 AM PDT
Drummer94- What a coindicence! Kinda clarifies the meaning of "fair and balanced reporting" doesn''t it...and I was under the impression that CBS was AGAINST the war. My bad.
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by citizenusa-2009 September 6, 2007 11:51 AM PDT
P.S. "BOOM" is only a lovely fantasy. I think we are stuck with this war-monger for the duration. The dems can''t do anything and now we even have the news media helping to justify this horrific situation. We are but peons in the whole scheme of things. I hope God is taking notes.
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by citizenusa-2009 September 6, 2007 11:57 AM PDT
One more thing. Shrub and/or D.I.C.K. would be no where around if Sean Penn showed up in Iraq. The reason is obvious, Penn is intelligent enough to understand the insanity of this war and won''t be placated by the "dog and pony" show. I''m afraid that anyone against this illegal occupation won''t get much press.
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by notblue September 6, 2007 12:23 PM PDT
This is great! An actual postive story on Iraq progress from none other than CBS! Still the real entertainment is coming from the leftwing ingrates here in these posts scrambling to minimize, bash and repuduiate the story! toooo funny!
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by drummer94 September 6, 2007 12:28 PM PDT
Way ta go Citizen. Somebody said, don''t remember who, might''ve been Tom Jefferson, said when this stuff no longer works, we have the FREEDOM to fix it. I''m para the works, but dam, our guys were right. MY favorite quote from T.J.? The tree of liberty must be refreshed, from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. End quote.
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by drummer94 September 6, 2007 12:31 PM PDT
notblah- c''mon evenyou and your alter-ego muddy gotta see the light!? CBS is just a news org. They, like all of ''em, report. ''nes pa?
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by prinzowhales September 6, 2007 12:43 PM PDT
Oh, goody...another trip to Haditha Street...the official ''Potemkin Village'' of Odierno and the Surge...More happy news for airheads.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been murdered under our occupation of Iraq...Millions have voted with their feet...and Odierno takes another in-bed reporter to Haditha Street...

Troops Home Now! The War was based on a lie!

Here''s a picture of the cut columns at ground level on the WTC after the 9-11 attack.

http://media.portland.indymedia.org/images/2006/06/341239.jpg

The same liars who said Saddam had WMDs, forged evidence to present to Congress, made-up the Niger Yellowcake hoax told you that 19 Arabs with box cutters who couldn''t fly jetliners took over four of them escaped NORAD and rammed three of buildings of key importance in America. This is the official lie! The Washington Regime is not fit to rule. Troops Home Now! Restore the Constitution!
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by drummer94 September 6, 2007 12:59 PM PDT
Whatdaya think prinz? We ***-ume you are in England. How did your folks agree w/ Tony? Da war? What we see here, in the States, a HUGE mistake. Ande whats up with the driving thing? Right side?
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by one_american September 6, 2007 2:06 PM PDT
Prinzowhales:

You can shut your bloody gob now.

You and your kind are losing your war against America, and you know it.

It''s only going to get worse for you and your kind, as you become the social outcasts of society.
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by oakishpines September 6, 2007 2:37 PM PDT


'' ... after the civil war, 80+% of the u.s. were self employed farmers, a hundred years later, i work for a company that publicly and regularly demonstrates that it refuses to be self sufficient ... ''


'' ... it isn''t that little militant girls can''t make a living by marrying and slaving civilian men, it is just that militant men have a thing for disciplining and choring little militant girls ... ''


'' ... there''s nothing wrong with not liking beets or hairy women or naked girls, but denying those who like beets and hairy women and naked girls access to congress could almost me construed as oppressive if life were supposed to be fair ... ''


'' ... it isn''t that little girls can''t provide for my needs or that they don''t want to, they are very crafty and kind, but the general promised he would, so i keep waiting ... of course the general also said it only takes a few to feed the world and the army''s too busy taxing the world to be that few what feed it ... ''


'' ... i was number 3.5 billion, but no one listened when i said the ignorant naked kids are freed from thousands of years of being made to disappear, now i''m number one and my survival depends upon my military skill and not only does no one listen, but they''re all trying to kill me ... ''
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by radiob-2009 September 6, 2007 2:53 PM PDT
"It''ll take us a while longer to continue to get them to the strength necessary and trained at the level that we expect them to be at in order to maintain that control," says Odierno. "But the key piece that we are seeing is the fact that that populace is rejecting those troops, and that''s the first step."


Does anyone at CBS edit what is printed?

"But the key piece that we are seeing is the fact that that populace is rejecting those troops, and that''s the first step."

The Iraqi troops, the American troops???????
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by myidoncbs September 6, 2007 4:30 PM PDT
Iraq is a mess! It is not secure. The US military can never make it secure. The surge only "works" because they''re paying people to pretend to act normal, and it only works in those areas where all but one of the competing groups has been exterminated. The "insurgents" ("freedom fighters", to use Reagan''s term) just move to another area until our soldiers move on. We don''t have enough soldiers to occupy every inch of the county, and we never will. So, our soldiers are dying there for nothing. By continuing to support the war, *you* are causing more and more of them to die.

The whole story about the "progress" in Iraq is just more of the same lies and half-truths from the Chimp who just joined the so-called "cut-and-run defeatocrats" by saying that if things keep going "so well", he might cut the troops. Well, guess what? He isn''t going to cut the troops! They can keep on dying, for all he cares! In the authorized Bush biography that just came out, Bush admitted he was just stringing you all along until Oct. or Nov., in hopes that he can convince the next repug nominee to support "staying the course", a.k.a. NEVER ENDING WAR.

D@mn the gullibility, the ignorance, and the willful blindness of all of the Chimp''s legions of fools.
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by prinzowhales September 6, 2007 4:58 PM PDT
One_''American''- I don''t suppose you would care to address the cut columns at the base of the WTC? Just how did those mischievous Magic Arabs set thermate charges to cut columns in the WTC buildings?

http://media.portland.indymed
ia.org/images/2006/06/341239.jpg

A "social outcast" for telling the truth? Is that the only threat you and the War Pigs have for us?
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by oakishpines September 6, 2007 5:39 PM PDT


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'' ... whuts extremely bizarre about slavery is that it only took something like three percent of three percent of folk to slave entire populations ... the first thing that should have popped into their minds was: ''ohmagosh, if we can slave populations with three percent of three percent, then our enemys can slave lil ol us with less than three percent of three percent of three percent of three percent ... ''


'' ... let''s invest 99% to those max wage folk what cuff cage collar and 1% to those min wage folk whut mug rape kill and 1% of 1% to those whut each give market share and other stuff to fifty folk what also each give market share and other stuff away to fifty folk each day for free ... ''


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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:46 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:46 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:46 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:46 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:46 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:46 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:47 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:47 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:47 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:47 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:47 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:47 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:47 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:47 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:47 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:47 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:47 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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by morris61 September 7, 2007 5:48 PM PDT
"Progress is being made in Iraq,just give the Surge another 12 months"this is the statement from the next American President 3 years from now.How is it CNN,ABC and their friends ALWAYS forget to give the body counts for the dead Iraqi civilians?Its easy,start at one millon and go up.What part of Permenant Occupation is unclear?
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