WASHINGTON, Aug. 28, 2007

Clinton Gives Up Fugitive's Donations

Democrats To Divest Donations From Fundraiser With Outstanding Arrest Warrant

  • Sen. Hillary Clinton is one of several Democratic candidates who has announced they are donating funds raised by Norman Hsu to charity. It was revealed earlier this week that Hsu has an outstanding arrest warrant in California for grand theft. Photo

    Sen. Hillary Clinton is one of several Democratic candidates who has announced they are donating funds raised by Norman Hsu to charity. It was revealed earlier this week that Hsu has an outstanding arrest warrant in California for grand theft.  (AP)

(AP)  Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton will give to charity the $23,000 in donations she has received from a Hong Kong-born fundraiser who is wanted in California for failing to appear for sentencing on a 1991 grand theft charge.

The decision came Wednesday as other Democrats began distancing themselves from Norman Hsu, whose legal encounters and links to other Democratic donors have drawn public scrutiny in the past two days.

Sens. Edward Kennedy and John Kerry, both of Massachusetts, also planned to turn over Hsu's contributions to charity. Sens. Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein of California; Al Franken, a Senate candidate in Minnesota; Reps. Michael Honda and Doris Matsui of California; and Rep. Joe Sestak of Pennsylvania also said they would divest Hsu's contributions.

Hsu is a fundraiser for Clinton and is described as a devoted fan of the presidential candidate and New York senator. He had planned to co-host a money event for Clinton on Sept. 30. In a statement Wednesday, Hsu said he believed he had resolved his legal issues, but said he would halt his work raising political money.

"I would not consciously subject any of the candidates and causes in which I believe to any harm through my actions," he said. "Therefore, until this matter is resolved, I intend to refrain from all fundraising activities on behalf of all candidates and causes."

Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer said the $23,000 included contributions from Hsu to Clinton's presidential campaign, her Senate re-election and her political action committee. The campaign did not plan to return any money Hsu raised from other donors, Singer said.

"In light of the information regarding Mr. Hsu's outstanding warrant in California, we will be giving his contribution to charity," Singer said.

Reports in The Wall Street Journal and The Los Angeles Times this week caused numerous Democratic candidates and organizations that have benefited from Hsu's contributions to reconsider the donations.

Hsu gave Kennedy $4,000 in 2004 and gave his political action committee $5,000 this year, according to Federal Election Commission records. He also gave Kerry's presidential campaign $4,000 and donated $2,000 to a separate Kerry legal compliance fund. Boxer's campaign received $2,000 from Hsu in 2004, and her political action committee received $2,000 in 2005. Franken received $2,300 this year from Hsu, Matsui received $6,100 since 2004 and Sestak and Honda each received $1,000 for their re-election efforts.

Federal Election Commission records show that Hsu has donated $260,000 to Democratic Party groups and federal candidates since 2004. Though a fundraiser for Clinton, he also donated to Sen. Barack Obama's Senate campaign in 2004 and to Obama's political action committee.

In 1991, Hsu pleaded no contest to a single felony count of grand theft but failed to appear in court for sentencing, according to Ronald Smetana, a California deputy attorney general who prosecuted the case.

Smetana said there is an outstanding warrant for Hsu's arrest. A clerk at the San Mateo County courthouse where Hsu was prosecuted said the warrant was issued in 1992 and orders were for $2 million bail for Hsu if he were arrested.

Smetana said Hsu collected about $1 million from investors by falsely claiming he had a contract to import latex gloves. Smetana said he planned to ask a judge to sentence Hsu to prison.

"We would obviously like Mr. Hsu to return and face justice," said Smetana, who said he had assumed Hsu, a Hong Kong native, had fled the country.

In a statement Wednesday, Hsu said:

"I believe I properly resolved all of the legal issues related to my bankruptcy in the early 1990s. Therefore, I was surprised to learn that there appears to be an outstanding warrant - as demonstrated by the fact that I have and do live a public life. I have not sought to evade any of my obligations and certainly not the law."

On Tuesday, Hsu's Washington attorney, E. Lawrence Barcella Jr., disputed any suggestion that Hsu had any hand in improperly directing contributions from other donors. The Journal reported that six members of the family of William Paw, a San Francisco mail carrier, donated a total of $45,000 to Clinton since 2005. The Journal reported that the donations closely track Hsu's contributions.

By Associated Press Writer Jim Kuhnhenn. The AP's Paul Elias, Fred Frommer, Erica Werner and Kimberly Hefling contributed to this report.


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by perception5 August 30, 2007 8:37 AM PDT
Ok it''s about 8:35am EST Thursday morning August 30th. Let''s see "how long" CBS (Clinton Broadcasting Station) keeps this story "front and center" on their website.

This story has been out already for a day and now just getting posted to the CBS website.

Stay tuned..........
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by nexgen99 August 30, 2007 8:38 AM PDT
Just another example of the corruption of the Clintons. Here''s some additional lite reading.
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Selective Service Number is 3 26 46 228. Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968. Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969. He refuses to report. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969, under authority of COL. E. Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment. Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station September 1969. Bill Clinton reclassified 1- A on October 30, 1969, enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2). Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40. Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive. Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from President Carter. Bill Clinton becomes the FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United States.
All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.
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by realpatriot1 August 30, 2007 8:45 AM PDT
perception5,

This story has already been posted longer than any stories about Bush classifiying his campaign donations by industry so he could keep track of who he owed the most gratis to. He didn''t give any of Ken Lay''s money back.
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by infidel_us August 30, 2007 8:50 AM PDT
If it was a republican, they would not be allowed to get away with......"she''s going to DIVEST herself of the funds." The Attorney General would need to appoint a special prosecuter to look in to the allegations of campaign fraud.
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by forthepeopl1 August 30, 2007 8:51 AM PDT


And if you take down the central government in Iraq, you could easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off. Part of it%u2026uh%u2026the Syrians would like to have in the West. Part of the eastern part of Iraq the Iranians would like to claim, fought over it for eight years. In the north, you''''ve got the Kurds. If the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey. It''''s a%u2026it''''s a quagmire, if you go that far in trying to take over Iraq.

The other thing was casualties. Uh%u2026everyone was impressed with that fact that%u2026uh%u2026we were able to do our job with as few casualties as we had. But for the 146 Americans killed in action and for their families, it wasn''''t a cheap war. And the question for the President in terms of whether or not we went on to Baghdad and took additional casualties in an effort to get Saddam Hussein, was how many additional dead Americans was Saddam worth? And our judgment was not very many, and I think we got that right."

DAVID A BELANGER,VETERAN 978-618-3105
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by mike71067 August 30, 2007 9:01 AM PDT
I didn''t think CBS News was ever going to post this story, given their propensity to crucify the GOP while cuddling up to Democrats. Honestly, I don''t think they would have run this story if it weren''t for the fact that everyone in the U.S. now knows about this.

CBS News would rather report on a low-level GOP senator playing footsie with a cop, than report on the corruption of the Democrat frontrunner.
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by forthepeopl1 August 30, 2007 9:01 AM PDT


and again the white house is going to say everyone is lieing but us..what ***



The Associated Press has learned the Government Accountability Office, or GAO, will report that at least 13 of the 18 benchmarks to measure the surge of U.S. troops to Iraq are unfulfilled ahead of a Sept. 15 deadline. That''s when Mr. Bush is to give a detailed accounting of the situation eight months after he announced the policy, according to three officials familiar with the matter.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the report has not been made public, also said the administration is preparing a case to play down the findings, arguing that Congress ordered the GAO to use unfair, "all or nothing" standards when compiling the document.
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by katg21 August 30, 2007 9:02 AM PDT
Stay tuned..........
Posted by perception5 at 08:37 AM : Aug 30, 2007

Not holding my breathe. It''s amazing to me that people (dems) can''t see the bias! They insult Fox News, Rush, etc. not realizing that they are simply reporting the other side of the story. They refuse to be well informed on the issues instead prefer being told what to believe. Most dems are mindless sheep.
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by usaisdway189 August 30, 2007 9:03 AM PDT
what do you expect from a shrill shrew cuckolded ''ho like Hillary who craves nothing but power; someone who should be shamed by her "hubby''s" perversions and sorry record and would divorce the perv and draft dodger if she were a real woman.

But no, she''s a little girl - or boy if you will. Just about as rotten as a Larry Craig, a Foley, an Obama, an Edwards, a Pelosi, a Dean, a Reid and every other Demorat running for the Presidency or the MoveOn.Org paid-off leadership of their party.

Hillary gives new meaning to the word p*ussy - or lack of it. LOL.
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by usbrit-2009 August 30, 2007 9:03 AM PDT
nexgen99 - you guys just don''t give up do you. This all happened 30+ years ago and has been raised time and time again. What was little W doing at this time (apart from avoiding Viet-Nam)? - Drinking and snorting.
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by usaisdway189 August 30, 2007 9:07 AM PDT
Little W, USBrit (interesting name, what part of the planet are you on?? - oh, must be Bin Laden''s, as over half of Britain has gone to those hyenas)served. Pervert Bill not only did NOT, he ran to Moscow - and no one really knows what he was doing there.

Another thing, chump - W bombed terrorists once we were attacked. Bill the Pervert bombed innocent Serb civilians who were NOT a threat to the United States or to Britain.

Oh yeah, he did bomb an empty terrorist camp. Just ONCE.
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by perception5 August 30, 2007 9:10 AM PDT
Not holding my breathe. It''''s amazing to me that people (dems) can''''t see the bias! They insult Fox News, Rush, etc. not realizing that they are simply reporting the other side of the story. They refuse to be well informed on the issues instead prefer being told what to believe. Most dems are mindless sheep.
Posted by katg21 at 09:02 AM : Aug 30, 2007


.........CBS (Corrupt Broadcasting Station) knows exactly what there doing. They work "very hard" at excluding moderates and conservatives. This network has ZERO DIVERSITY and wants zero diversity.

The head of CBS (Clinton Broadcasting Station) News is Rick Kaplan. He is close pals with the Clintons sleeping at their White House twice the last time in April 2000.

Why news executive in their right mind would accept an invite to the White House? knowing that that would represent a major "Conflict of Interest"?

Is CBS (Crush Bush Station) going to promote Hillary Rotten-Clinton during the 2008 election cycle? You better believe it!!!
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by lars008-2009 August 30, 2007 9:12 AM PDT
USBrit

Lt. Cmdr. Charles E. Madison: You American haters bore me to tears, Ms. Barham. I''ve dealt with Europeans all my life. I know all about us parvenus from the States who come over here and race around your old Cathedral towns with our cameras and Coca-cola bottles... Brawl in your pubs, paw at your women, and act like we own the world. We over-tip, we talk too loud, we think we can buy anything with a Hershey bar. I''ve had Germans and Italians tell me how politically ingenuous we are, and perhaps so. But we haven''t managed a Hitler or a Mussolini yet. I''ve had Frenchmen call me a savage because I only took half an hour for lunch. Hell, Ms. Barham, the only reason the French take two hours for lunch is because the service in their restaurants is lousy. The most tedious lot are you British. We crass Americans didn''t introduce war into your little island. This war, Ms. Barham to which we Americans are so insensitive, is the result of 2,000 years of European greed, barbarism, superstition, and stupidity. Don''t blame it on our Coca-cola bottles. Europe was a growing brothel long before we came to town.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057840/quotes
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by nexgen99 August 30, 2007 9:16 AM PDT
USBrit: I don''t what W was doing I just know he was not a felon like Clinton
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by lars008-2009 August 30, 2007 9:17 AM PDT
it is fascist nazi terrorislam stupid%u2026.

non muslims of the world unite... fight against the tyranny of the fascist nazi terrorslam imperialist empire of the darkside...

I was a fanatic...I know their thinking, says former radical Islamist
By blaming the Government for our actions, those who pushed this "Blair''s bombs" line did our propaganda work for us.
More important, they also helped to draw away any critical examination from the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770
Bless the Beasts and Children
Fascist nazi terrorslam kills every man woman and child in the village again%u2026 typical mo for terrorslam%u2026
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/bless-the-beasts-and-children.htm

Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20arabia%20pagan
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by mike71067 August 30, 2007 9:19 AM PDT
Glad to see that Al Franken, the buck-toothed jackkass, gave back his chunk of the money also. The Democrats have no problem accepting cash from crooks until someone finds out about it.

Notice how little attention this story received, as compared to the low-level GOP senator who did something weird in a restroom stall.
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by lars008-2009 August 30, 2007 9:19 AM PDT
Posted by nancy_naive at 09:16 AM : Aug 30, 2007

try using the link if you can naive namcy... lol

The Americanization of Emily (1964)

hahahaha
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by lars008-2009 August 30, 2007 9:27 AM PDT
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! March 23, 1775 Patrick Henry

USA''s PLEDGE 2 THE WORLD GIVEN BY JFK!!

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961

"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." - John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961

One ought never to turn one''s back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Winston Churchill

"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein

Edmund Burke: All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.
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by lars008-2009 August 30, 2007 9:30 AM PDT
the war is legal

the resumption of hostilities was only a matter of time since iraq broke the ceasefire agreement.....

blame saddam for iraq%u2026%u2026. Even clintoon and the dems wanted the resumption of hostilities back in 1998

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq''''s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

Moreover, no international law can prevent the United States from taking actions to protect its vital interests, when it is manifestly clear that there is a choice to be made between law and survival. I believe, however, that such a choice is not presented in the case of Iraq. Indeed, should we decide to proceed, that action can be justified within the framework of international law rather than outside it. In fact, though a new UN resolution may be helpful in building international consensus, the existing resolutions from 1991 are sufficient from a legal standpoint. - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html
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by nexgen99 August 30, 2007 9:35 AM PDT
That is why, when 2008 arrives, the GOP will finally join the Whigs, the Free Soil, Federalists and other past political parties.
Posted by nancy_naive at 09:26 AM : Aug 30, 2007

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I wouldn''t count on that. People still remember the Clintion failures leading up to 911. Should I remind you.
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S.
military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000 Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible be hunted down and punished.

Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC. who are now dead would be alive today.

THINK ABOUT IT ! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8Million for her forthcoming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events while under oath.
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by goldesprit August 30, 2007 9:41 AM PDT
Watergate is a buzzword for "follow the money"...

That was a crime--trying to overthrow the Government.

Think about this:

Who is trying to make sure the Democrats have no impefect donations???????

Gee f-----g whiz, do the Republican Candidates have any un-wholesome donators?????

Gigantic, Cosmic, ...DUH.
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by goldesprit August 30, 2007 9:46 AM PDT
Watergate is a buzzword for "follow the money"...

That was a crime--trying to overthrow the Government.

I am serious.

Who is trying to make sure the Democrats have no impefect donations???????

Gee f-----g whiz, do the Republican Candidates have any un-wholesome donators?????

Gigantic, Cosmic, ...DUH.
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by goldesprit August 30, 2007 9:56 AM PDT
A quote from a preceeding post; This is what the extensions of man can be about (Marshall Mcluhan):
"Reporting the other side is fine, for both groups. The problem is when you give equal weight to two arguments when one is clearly inferior."

And the television news ...folks, know very well they are doing this.
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by oscarez August 30, 2007 9:58 AM PDT
lars008 and nexgen99 you are preaching to the quire. No one else believes what you say.
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by texas468 August 30, 2007 10:01 AM PDT
Salt of the Earth, she is!
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by Lennyohio August 30, 2007 10:05 AM PDT
I just don''t understand Clinton problem with Chinese money. Former President Clinton still has to answer money he recieved from China, now Mrs Clinton has the same problem. Senator Boxer''s should be a paid lobbist. Her husband has close ties with various Hong Kong companies, this item was mention in the LA Times several years ago.
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by goldesprit August 30, 2007 10:06 AM PDT
There are too many personalized and knee-jerk response posts here--too few woulkd really stand up for their words.

A quote from a preceeding post; This is what the extensions of man can be about (Marshall Mcluhan):
"Reporting the other side is fine, for both groups. The problem is when you give equal weight to two arguments when one is clearly inferior."

And the television news ...folks, know very well they are doing this.

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by pugster August 30, 2007 10:07 AM PDT
Leave it to the Republican whiners cry fowl when the Democrats didn''t ''screen'' one of the tens of thousands of donors. It is not like the Democrats defend the fugitive and actually keep the money.
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by goldesprit August 30, 2007 10:09 AM PDT
There are too many personalized and knee-jerk response posts here--too few woulkd really stand up for their words.

A quote from a preceeding post; This is what the extensions of man can be about (Marshall Mcluhan):
"Reporting the other side is fine, for both groups. The problem is when you give equal weight to two arguments when one is clearly inferior."

And the television news ...folks, know very well they are doing this.
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by nexgen99 August 30, 2007 10:11 AM PDT
lars008 and nexgen99 you are preaching to the quire. No one else believes what you say.
Posted by oscarez at 09:58 AM : Aug 30, 2007

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oscarez, do you think they believe Clinton spent more time looking for BJ''s than terrorists.
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by infidel_us August 30, 2007 10:11 AM PDT
Had she not been ''caught'', would she still have given it up? I doubt it.
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by pwrslm August 30, 2007 10:13 AM PDT
How long do they expect us to act naive and ignorant? Surely, history speaks loudly on this issue, but the real component they dont want to talk about is that election finance reforms are useless, and that was the spearhead of DNC last election.

They are doing what they always do. These thieves and liars take as much money as they can when they think they will not be caught. They insulate themselves from blame by using 3rd parties to commit crimes like this guy Hsu,who is a foreign national that shouldnt be contributing anything to a US Presidential election, let alone collecting it from shadows is a network of illusions....

Every dime should go through a solitary source and equally distributed across the board for all qualified contenders to insure that this type of corruption does not happen again.
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by mbcsmith August 30, 2007 10:14 AM PDT
lars008 and nexgen99 you are preaching to the quire. No one else believes what you say.
Posted by oscarez at 09:58 AM : Aug 30, 2007

At least they can spell. Don''t try to use even small words. Your 4th grade education is evident.
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by actornaught August 30, 2007 10:14 AM PDT
Interesting how Fox fans think that being jerks will make this a Story That Matters. Obviously it matters to Hsu, but it has no bearing on Clinton, other than giving her an opportunity to voluntarily give up money she doesn''t need.
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by pepperwood2 August 30, 2007 10:17 AM PDT
Isn''t this another cute scenario.

Liberal politicians get caught receiving donations from their America''s Most Wanted supporters.

Then the Liberal Press makes them look like they are going to make good & donate all this to their Needy Favorite Charities.

Like the ACLU - Abortion Clinics - Rainbow Coalitions - Just to name a few. Did I leave anybody out??

Sens. Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein of California; Al Franken, a Senate candidate in Minnesota; Reps. Michael Honda and Doris Matsui of California; and Rep. Joe Sestak of Pennsylvania also said they would divest Hsu''s contributions.

That''s interesting! End of story. Now lets see??? Who should we consider for the Nobel Peace Prize???
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by pwrslm August 30, 2007 10:19 AM PDT
If you can get through the insulators, you will find that HSU is directly sponsored by the Peoples Party of China, which is a communist dictatorship.

Did anyone wonder why we lost all the US Made products in Walmart during Clintons Administration, which were replaced by Chinese JUNK?

Wake up people, you are squandering your minds on BS and ignoring the truth. Our govenment is being undermined by people like the Clintons and Obama''s whose true nature deserves nothing but the rewards of treason.
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by radiob-2009 August 30, 2007 10:20 AM PDT
When are we going to legislate PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING ONLY???????? Until then expect all of the politicians to be bought and paid for by special interest regardless of political party. Until then we will continue to have "legislators" presidents who do not represent America. People need to stop praying at the "golden donkey" and the "golden elephant" demand real reform and then we will have STATESMEN!
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by mike71067 August 30, 2007 10:22 AM PDT
"Obviously it matters to Hsu, but it has no bearing on Clinton, other than giving her an opportunity to voluntarily give up money she doesn''''t need."
-Posted by actornaught at 10:14 AM : Aug 30, 2007

It has a HUGE bearing on Clinton, because it underscores the fact that she and other Democrats have no problem accepting donations from shady characters - until they''re caught, then they return the money. The Democrats are just as much a part of the "culture of corruption" as anybody.
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by gunownerdan August 30, 2007 10:25 AM PDT
There are many more criminals who support Hillary Clinton. That''s for sure!
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by oscarez August 30, 2007 10:26 AM PDT
"At least they can spell. Don''''t try to use even small words. Your 4th grade education is evident."
Posted by mbcsmith at 10:14 AM : Aug 30, 2007

Well how, who is showing their 4th grade education. Quire a variant spelling of choir you dumb s*hit.
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by klingon69 August 30, 2007 10:27 AM PDT
Leave it to the Republican whiners cry fowl when the Democrats didn''''t ''''screen'''' one of the tens of thousands of donors. It is not like the Democrats defend the fugitive and actually keep the money.
Posted by pug_ster at 10:07 AM : Aug 30, 2007
No, they didn''t keep the money, only because it was found out where it came from. I bet they would''ve kept it if nobody knew it was from Hsu.
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by radiob-2009 August 30, 2007 10:30 AM PDT
Keep on passing the football and ignore the real issues both political partys are bought and paid for by corporations and foreign governments and do not represent America. Your faiths in your political partys are blinding you.
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by gunownerdan August 30, 2007 10:31 AM PDT
Dr. Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate who is capable of obeying the presidential oath of office.
ronpaul2008.com
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by flreason August 30, 2007 10:37 AM PDT
Let''s inject a little reality into this discussion. Do you think Hsu handed her the money personally? I doubt it. Her campaign finance staff may have dropped the ball by not doing a sufficient background check on this character, but ALL politicians accept bribes--excuse me, campaign donations--from individuals looking for influence/favors. At least she gave the money away. If you''re going to condemn Hillary, then you''d better be prepared to doubly condemn Bush Jr. and his administration''s government-for-sale-to-the-highest-bidder. They haven''t given any of the money back from the crooks who financed their campaign and then began fleecing American taxpayers as war contractors/profiteers. This is chump change compared to the billions Bush''s cronies stole.
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by actornaught August 30, 2007 10:40 AM PDT
"The Democrats are just as much a part of the "culture of corruption" as anybody."

I guess you''re new here in America. The ''Pubs are way way ahead in the corruption/disgrace game.

"...then we will have STATESMEN! "
Posted by radiob at 10:20 AM : Aug 30, 2007

Very good post. Legitimate campaign reform has always been sorely needed.

However, on the whole, the Dems are the lesser evil. Best i can do.
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by gkc99 August 30, 2007 10:41 AM PDT
Billy and Hilly Clinton took big money from Asian interests while promoting their globalization scheme that has damaged workers here and abroad.

No way does Hilly deserve the Dem nomination. Vote Edwards or Obama.
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by flreason August 30, 2007 10:41 AM PDT
Don''t know why the break appeared in my posting--it wasn''t there on my computer. Must have been the CBS censor. LOL
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by realpatriot1 August 30, 2007 10:42 AM PDT
Mike71067,

Absolutely the democrats are part of the culture of corruption! Even Ross Perot was part of that culture, it''s part of the iniation to even compete in the system until, as radiob pointed out, we change the system.

None of the candidates are squeaky clean and none is going to be totally committed to fixing a ssytem that they personally benefit from. However, some are more committed than others.

Obama at least admits that he''s part of the rotten system and has broadened his financial base to include mostly small donars, but I still haven''t heard him commit to public financing. Rather than admit it''s a problem, Hillary defends lobbyists as the defenders of the little people. Edwards promised not to take money from PACS then created his own PAC. They all take money from the corporations who fund the PACs.

It''s no different on the Republican side where the only one who has ever discussed the subject as far as I can remember is McCain and he''s being beaten over the head for "limiting free seech" in the form of slimey cash.

The media needs to stay on this story and the issue of public financing throughout the campaign(but I doubt they will).
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by mike71067 August 30, 2007 10:43 AM PDT
"However, on the whole, the Dems are the lesser evil. Best i can do."
-Posted by actornaught at 10:40 AM : Aug 30, 2007

WHAT?! Your definition of "evil" must be different than what the rest of America believes. The Democrats are the most corrupt group of politicians and news media outlets ever. The only difference is that they are congratulated for it by the liberal media, while Republicans are crucified for it.
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by ov442 August 30, 2007 10:43 AM PDT
Posted by flreason Good Points of common sense.

I think they should donate the funds to help continue rebuilding homes in New Orleans that can better withstand future hurricanes.

I think Hsu should go face the music, and resolve the legal problems he got himself into.
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