Bush: Iraqis Are Sacrificing In War, Too

President Says The U.S. Is Not Bearing Toll Alone; Cleland Claims Bush Is Ignoring Facts

(AP)  President Bush said Saturday that Iraqis are sacrificing dearly to secure their country, trying to underscore that the U.S. is not bearing the toll alone. But Democrats responded that Mr. Bush is ignoring the facts in an effort to sell the Iraq war.

"Here at home, it can be easy to overlook the bravery shown by Iraqi troops and Iraqi civilians who are in the fight for freedom," Mr. Bush said in a radio address taped at his ranch in central Texas. "But our troops on the ground see it every day."

Mr. Bush told the story of an Iraqi man who stepped forward to intercept a suicide bomber who was running for a team of American soldiers and Iraqi citizens near Baghdad. The bomber and the Iraqi man died as the bomb detonated, but the soldiers and citizens were spared.

A citizens group, Mr. Bush said, tipped off police about the location of an al Qaeda cell believed responsible for the attack, which lead to arrests.

The president's positive take on Iraq's internal efforts comes as lawmakers and the broader public in the U.S. have grown deeply frustrated over Iraq's inability to improve its affairs.

"As security improves, more Iraqis are stepping forward to defend their democracy," Mr. Bush said. "Young Iraqi men are signing up for the army. Iraqi police are now patrolling the streets. Coalition and Iraqi forces have doubled the number of joint operations."

The president's address comes days after he compared the Iraq war to Vietnam — linking the U.S. pullout back then to the rise of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, and warning that withdrawing troops now could have similarly disastrous consequences.

Former Democratic Sen. Max Cleland of Georgia, who lost both legs and an arm while serving in Vietnam, said Mr. Bush is ignoring the facts.

Despite enormous sacrifice by Americans, Cleland said in his party's radio address, "We find ourselves mired in a civil war with no end in sight and Iraqis unable or unwilling to make the political decisions necessary to end this conflict."

Earlier in the week, a bleak assessment by the U.S. intelligence community found that the Iraqi government is hampered by rampant violence and deep sectarian differences. It bluntly reported, "To date, Iraqi political leaders remain unable to govern effectively."

Mr. Bush's strategy this year was to build up U.S. forces in Iraq and give the country's leaders the security and time they need to make fundamental political progress. Mr. Bush is awaiting a pivotal report in September on how much progress has been made with the buildup.

"We cannot expect the new strategy we are carrying out to bring success overnight," he said in another plea for patience from the nation. "But by standing with the Iraqi people as they build their democracy, we will deliver a devastating blow to al Qaeda, we will help provide new hope for millions of people throughout the Middle East, we will gain a friend and ally in the war on terror, and we will make the American people safer."

The president's radio address capped an active week in which he appeared to distance himself from embattled Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, only to endorse Maliki the next day; delivered a speech in which he likened today's fight against extremism to past conflicts in Japan, Korea and Vietnam; and dealt with the release of the sobering intelligence estimate.

That estimate found that Iraq's security will continue to "improve modestly" over the next six to 12 months, provided that coalition forces mount strong counterinsurgency operations and mentor Iraqi forces. But even then, it said, violence levels will remain high as the country struggles to achieve national political reconciliation.

[forthepeopl1]

HEY BUSH TIME TO PULL YOUR MASK OFF,COME ON WE KNOW YOU ARE THE DEVEL...

[forthepeopl1]

She says she is the Democrat best equipped to fight terrorists, but White House hopeful Sen. Hillary Clinton told New Hampshire voters Thursday that another attack on the United States would likely help Republican candidates at the polls. IN OTHER WORDS BIN ARE YOU WATCHING IF YOU DONT WANT A DEM IN OFFICE AND WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THIS WAR THAN GO AHEAD AND ATTACK US..


Sen. Hillary Clinton said the Republicans would benefit politically if a terrorist attack occurred before the ''''''''08 vote.

"It''''''''s a horrible prospect to ask yourself, ''''''''What if? What if?'''''''' " Clinton, a New York Democrat, told a house party in Concord, according to the New York Post and The Associated Press and confirmed by her campaign.

"But, if certain things happen between now and the election, particularly with respect to terrorism, that will automatically give the Republicans an advantage again, no matter how badly they have mishandled it, no matter how much more dangerous they have made the world."

Clinton added that if such a scenario occurred, she is the best Democratic presidential candidate "to deal with that." AND YOU WANT THIS TRAILER TRASH AS PRESIDENT..RIGHT...

GO AHEAD AMERICA AND VOTE HER IN AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS...

[v_1618]

LIES , LIES AND MORE LIES

[v_1618]

WWW.ZEITGEISTMOVIE.COM

[jack3213]

Clinton'' comment that " the Republicans would benefit politically if a terrorist attack occurred before the ''08 vote." is disgraceful and those who continue to support her should be ashamed. It is one thing to know what you''re doing, it is another to use propaganda to promote it. She does not have either the ''know-how'' or the right respect for her country. Certianly the Iraq people are suffering, too, that is common sense. Anyone who fights for a cause might have hardship. American''s know this, firsthand.

[ramos937]

(AP) President Bush said Saturday that Iraqis are sacrificing dearly to secure their country, trying to underscore that the U.S. is not bearing the toll alone. But Democrats responded that Mr. Bush is ignoring the facts in an effort to sell the Iraq war.

"Here at home, it can be easy to overlook the bravery shown by Iraqi troops and Iraqi civilians who are in the fight for freedom," Mr. Bush said in a radio address taped at his ranch in central Texas. "But our troops on the ground see it every day."

"Mr. Bush told the story of an Iraqi man who stepped forward to intercept a suicide bomber who was running for a team of American soldiers and Iraqi citizens near Baghdad. The bomber and the Iraqi man died as the bomb detonated, but the soldiers and citizens were spared.

A citizens group, Mr. Bush said, tipped off police about the location of an al Qaeda cell believed responsible for the attack, which lead to arrests."

I am remind of a situation about 18 months ago. A teleconference was set up between President Bush and about 15 young soldiers in the Iraq. It was billed as spontaneous. Before the event, it was revealed that the event was staged and the soldiers rehearsed as to what to say.

May point is that it is now extremely hard to really know what is true and what is not true when the administration speaks on Iraq. Credibility is a huge problem.

[oakishpines]

'' ...

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me verse the world i deserve 99%, the world occupys 99% space time so deserves 99%, so 50% / 50% may be rational and equitable shareing of my market share

210 million represents the richest 3% with over 95% of wealth, poverty lines range $2 to $60 each work day, so giving to 440 to 730,000 each workday for tips of a penny to a dollar from 1/2 % to 11 % of folk marketed to


6 or 10 billion folk is 90,000 counties of 90,000 folk is 300 trail groups of 300 folk, girls get bored and move each 20 seconds to 20 nminutes so i not call them communities?)

$12,000 per year poverty line will buy $60,000 of 2500 sf land and 340 sf home

2500 sqft (50 ft x 50 ft) is 200 lineal feet perimeter, 2.2 to 3650 ''grapes'' per lineal foot (grapes as example or seaweed / algae song / dance art / craft wutever)


... if only 2500 square feet could float like some kind of spore bloom weed dragon tinkering densitys and surface areas and such ...


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... ''

[oakishpines]

'' .. most get sick tax world folk most time remind all that most folk most time dance get well feed world songs rallied round sick beds drifting tens millions spore bloom weed dragon trail fickle first aid lunch farm cottage studio trail groups ... ''

[forthepeopl1]

"Because if we''d gone to Baghdad, we would have been all alone. There wouldn''t have been anybody else with us %u2014 it would have been a US occupation of Iraq. None of the Arab forces that were willing to fight with us in Kuwait were willing to invade Iraq. Once you got to Iraq and took it over, and took down Saddam Hussein''s government, then what are you going to put in its place? That''s a very volatile part of the world.

And if you take down the central government in Iraq, you could easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off. Part of it%u2026uh%u2026the Syrians would like to have in the West. Part of the eastern part of Iraq the Iranians would like to claim, fought over it for eight years. In the north, you''ve got the Kurds. If the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey. It''s a%u2026it''s a quagmire, if you go that far in trying to take over Iraq.

The other thing was casualties. Uh%u2026everyone was impressed with that fact that%u2026uh%u2026we were able to do our job with as few casualties as we had. But for the 146 Americans killed in action and for their families, it wasn''t a cheap war. And the question for the President in terms of whether or not we went on to Baghdad and took additional casualties in an effort to get Saddam Hussein, was how many additional dead Americans was Saddam worth? And our judgment was not very many, and I think we got that right." ALL FOR MONEY!!!!!

[starleo146]

cont.)
Pres. Bush showed up for the sermon,and the Bishop began, "I''''d Like to speak to you all this morning about our Pres., who is a liar, a cheat, and a low intelligent weasel. He took the tragedy of 9/11 and used it to frighten and manipulate the American people." " He lied about Weapons of mass destruction and invaded Iraq for oil and money, causing the deaths of tens of thousands, and making the U.S the most hated in the world.""HE has headed the most corrupt bribe-inducing political party since the TEA POT DOME. "The national surplus has turned into a staggering national debt of 7.6 trillion dollars, gas prices are up 85% which the American people cannot afford vital research into global warming and stem cellis stopped cold ''''cause he''''s afraid to lose votes from the religious right.
"He''''s the worst example of a true Christian I''''ve ever seen"
But compared to Di**ck Cheney George W. Bush is a SAINT"
Posted by starleo146 at 10:59 AM : Aug 25, 2007

[starleo146]

Pres.Bush was scheduled to visit the Episcpal Church outside Wash. D.C. as part of his campaign to improve and to restore his pathetic poll standings.

His image handler made a visit to the Bishop and said,"We''''ve been getting a lot of bad publicity because of Pres. Bush position on stem cell research, the Iraq War,Hurricane Katrina, and the veteran administration.We will make $1oo,000 contribution if during your sermon you will say the Pres. is a saint.

The Bishop thought it over and said," The church is desperate for funding." "I''''ll do it.
Posted by starleo146 at 10:43 AM : Aug 25, 2007

[drummer94]

Bush just doesn''t get it. He spews about "standing by the Iraqi people" and "delivering a devestating blow to al-Qaeda". What about the rest of the region, loony? Do ya think Iran, Syria, He11, even Turkey, feel endeared to your invasion? How ''bout your buds the Saudis? Think they might be a little nervous? And little Kuwait? How many of them are you "standing with"? How many of them are standing with you? What a moron.

[pastdue1]

President Bush said Saturday that Iraqis are sacrificing dearly to secure their country, trying to underscore that the U.S. is not bearing the toll alone."

DUH!!!! Sacrificing, My God, estimated 600,000 dead, no water , no electricity, no utilities at all, afraid to go outside. That is above and beyond what any country should have to sacrifice for Bush''s war, and to continue sacrificing, and know that until the USA can vote him out, they will continue to sacrifice. Bush is, indeed, one fool of a person, who assumes everyone else is a fool and will accept his blathering as wisdom.

[iceman_1960]

"The president''s address comes days after he compared the Iraq war to Vietnam %u2014 linking the U.S. pullout back then to the rise of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, and warning that withdrawing troops now could have similarly disastrous consequences."

Another right winger, shedding dishonest crocodile tears for the millions who died in Cambodia, who wouldn''t have died if the Nixon administration hadn''t disrupted the Lon Nol government with a ruthless bombing campaign and invasion, thrusting that nation fully into the spreading Vietnam conflict.

And Nixon did it to save face. That''s the same d*amned reason Bush is keeping the Iraq war going.

Bush is the ultimate hypocrite. He used his father''s powerful friends to dodge that war, jumping to the head of a long Texas ANG waiting list despite minimal qualifications.

He''s the last person on earth to be lecturing America and the world about the conflict in Southeat Asia.

The last person on earth to be doing that.

[donnie900]

Well, you guys can use my poop fer research if yaz want to.

[drummer94]

And Bush is sacrificing his sanity. He probably figures, in that delusional state, that it''s a fair trade-off.

[iceman_1960]

RE: "Bush is the ultimate hypocrite. He used his father''s powerful friends to dodge that war, jumping to the head of a long Texas ANG waiting list despite minimal qualifications."

If that isn''t true, someone please list all the eminent qualifications that, in 1968 (the bloodiest year of the Vietnam War), Bush got past a long waiting list to enter the Texas Air National Guard.

(a) Was Bush married at the time; did he have kids ?

(b) Did he have prior experience as a pilot in jet fighters ?

(c) Did he "ace" the Pilot''s Aptitude Test ?

(d) Did his well connected Texas Congressman dad "know the right people" ?




[Correct answer: (d)]

[cdfoxtrot]

I think George Orwell would have referred to Bush''s latest rantings as double-think. It is Bush who choose to go to war, on no evidence, and he is the sole reason for the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths. Saying, years later, the Iraqis are making sacrifices too -- well, no ***, sherlock! Iraqi deaths have outnumbered US military deaths by about 100 to 1. And most Iraqi deaths are of civilians, not people who choose to go into harm''s way. This is all the fault of Bush and the morons who elected him.

[drummer94]

Sucks don''t it Iceman? Yet he has the cherries for "spreading democracy",er, "nation building",er, securing our vital interests",er, what was he hoping to accomplish again? On another thread, he''s using them tiny cherries to talk about the Iraqi and our troops "sacrifices". And he is sacrificing what is left of his sanity.

[drummer94]

Oops! ''Puter said I was somewhere else. Been messin'' up a lot lately. Of course I meant this thread. Mea Culpa.

[bareemperor]

President Bu$h is a deluded NeoCon liar.

America has been hijacked by crooks again.
Happens whenever Republicons come to power.

[donnie900]

Republicans are no different from Democrats. You guys just don''t know what war is. Us war hardened Republicans got no delusions about the atrocities of war. Cuz we got a war iq, see. To you liberals, evolution is a war.

[donnie900]

To you liberals, a run in yer pantyhose is a war.

[inventagod]

Donnie900 - whatever will you be when you grow up?
I guess by then Rush L. will be retiring... maybe you DO have a future.

[donnie900]

I''m 52.

[ioweign]

Forthepoopheads,

Of course an attack on US soil would benefit Bush. He would hide for 3 days until the CIA was sure the site of such an attack was clear, and then Bush would show up bullhorn in hand and his approval rating would jump to +60%.

Regards,
Posted by Nancy_Naive at 02:12 PM : Aug 25, 2007

Don''t forget his flight jacket. He has to look in charge.

[bill1fj]

Meanwhile the Iraqi government takes a month off for vacation.
I think the U.S. troops in Iraq should get a monthes vacation too.
Lets give them the month of December off so they can all come home for the holidays.

[j-whitman]

Bush thinks Iraqi''a are suffering ???? ***, must have been a divine revelation... Thank You ENRON for paving this genius''s yellow brick road.

[likeitis5050]

Doublespeak for ''If we quit now, I won''t get all the STUUUUFF promised to me...shoot!'' In the meantime, we have barely scratched the surface for making sure those who do come back will have the support and medical care needed to live out the rest of their lives. Yeah...way to go Mr. Prez. What''s a few lives sacraficed for their country if it means you end up a very very very rich ex-prez. Of all the former presidents who have secret security agents to stay with them til they die...no one absolutely can not walk freely with out them... except Bush. That''s sad. He can''t run out for a slushie without risking some agent''s life. Geeeeeeeeeeze!!!

[omega39-2009]

Mr. Bush told the story of an Iraqi man who stepped forward to intercept a suicide bomber who was running for a team of American soldiers and Iraqi citizens near Baghdad. The bomber and the Iraqi man died as the bomb detonated, but the soldiers and citizens were spared.

And who would believe this after the stories of both Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman turned out to be entirely fabricated.

[starleo146]

Posted by omega39 at 05:41 PM : Aug 25, 2007

Here is the beginning of a propaganda blitz to keep this war going. The propaganda should be about our troops and how they are ready to come home after doing all that was asked of them and more. They can''t even get the proper equipment to our troops. When they leave bring all our equipment back not even a hammer should be left.I wouldn''t be surprised to know Maliki when he went to Iran and Kissed the Pres. of Iran and walked in hand and hand he wasn''t paying him for the bombs etc. used against our troops .I will never forget Maliki saying the Americans can leave anytime they want just leave there equipment.

[j-whitman]

The pilots of Air Force 1 shoud look at thier uniforms & drop Bush & Cheney of at 30,000 feet with thier Mission Accomplished banner & no parachute.

[starleo146]

e''''s the last person on earth to be lecturing America and the world about the conflict in Southeat Asia.

The last person on earth to be doing that.
Posted by Iceman_1960 at 03:07 PM : Aug 25, 2007

I would love for a reporter to say Mr. Pres. You have made comparisons between Vietnam and Iraq, Would you explain in detail the difference to the American people. I just want to see his expression, probably DUH!

[j-whitman]

Call Bush Mister ???? Never in a million years, that word denotes a bit of respect & huh-huh No-way in hell ------- Death Before Dishonor

[seven-pesos]

watch out, folks!

if those southerners get their way

they''''ll elect another creep just like bush.

that''''s the way of the south.

christian creeps, republican snakes...

nothing good comes out of the south.

[omega39-2009]

Posted by starleo146

Starleo146, fear not, his propaganda campaign will only placate the 28% that constitute his "faith based reality". The rest of us recognize him for what he is, a flimflam man who tells bold faced lies to the American people while he robs them blind.

[cbs_oliver]

We are stuck with Republicans who say it is their vision that should rule the world and and teh little people of the world must be complelled to comply and Democrates who say it is their vision that should rule the world but that the little people of the world are not worthy.

In the end these two visions lead to similar attrocities.

Only a few say that the little people of the world are fully able to rule themselves and we should leave them do their best.

Too bad.

[seven-pesos]

bush says:" we can''t lose. we got gawd on our side."

ha,ha,ha,

well kizz my azz!

the south has lost every war they ever started.

bush''s war will be no different.

war, hate, christian freaks, republican snakes...

nothing good comes out of the south!

[seven-pesos]

the south murdered abraham lincoln...

the south murdered john kennedy...

to make up for this, the south gives us george bush, jr.

hooray for the south.

rednecks, white christian trash, republican snakes...

oh, well...that''''s the south for you, folks!

[drummer94]

7,stoned,et al,your nutts.

[seven-pesos]

not one southern state will vote for hillary...

guaranteed,
warranteed,
money back guarantee,
double your money back guarantee,
will kizz yo'' azz guarantee,
bet my life on it guarantee,
bet my wife on it guarantee,
bet my daughter''s virginity on it guarantee.

ha,ha,ha.

bush loving, southern, republican christian snakes...

nothing good comes out of the south.

[j-whitman]

Here''''s the raal story,, No Iraqi unit is leading thier missions, we are.. They aren''''t in charge of much in thier government, we are.. They arn''''t in charge of intel, we are. Iraq body count doubled & Bush renames an Irazi insurgent group that killed many of our troops --- "Concerened Local Citizens" & claims success ???? ----- LYING SOB BUSH SAYS,, "PATIENCE"

[j-whitman]

Excues me,,, Bush rebranded one of the main insurgent groups in Iraq and now use the term "concerned local nationals" to refer to a group that once claimed responsibility for killing scores of Americans. ==== THAT''S NOT PROGRESS

[seven-pesos]

southerners are looking at rush limbaugh as a possible presidential candidate.

he has all the qualifications.

fat, bigoted, republican, christian, drug user, demogogue...

yep, those southerners are taking a good look at rush.

ha,ha,ha.

that''s the south for you, folks!

[mcvet]

Society : the **** and john john (aka ****) having befriended a pit bull with aids look for bubba.

Shoeshine to attend the chicken dance at Carlos and Charlies with ozone al.
Posted by stonebog at 08:23 PM : Aug 25, 2007

That Swastika you have on Sparky? It''s WAY to tight and cutting off the blood to your very SMALL and insignificant brain. With a mind as small as yours you need every drop of blood to it you can possibably get.... just to function. Sieg Heil Y''all. ROFLMAO

[mcvet]

GO AHEAD AMERICA AND VOTE HER IN AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS...
Posted by forthepeopl1 at 02:04 PM : Aug 25, 2007

Woe is me you got me so scared.

AT LEAST IT WON"T BE A REPUBLICAN.
Posted by rharrin1 at 08:20 PM : Aug 25, 2007

LOL Yeah. Didn''t those simple minded freaks say the same thing about Bill? I''d trade those 8 years for this mess ANYTIME! Sieg Heil Bush!!

[j-whitman]

Let''s hope America remembers the GOP''s dishonor to our country longer than thier children remember which teacher they had S,E,X with. --- Their won''t be another republican President for the next 40 years.

[bluestardad]

STANDING IN THE DARK TELLING EVERYONE IT IS DAYLIGHT!

ONLY 40 PERCENT OF IRAQI UNITS SHOWED UP FOR THE SURGE AND SOME OF THEM SHOT AMERICAN SOLDIERS!

Write and tell that to AIPAC as they brag about buying your Elected Representatives while American soldiers are being killed!

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm

Congress email http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

House Speakers email address: [e-mail]

Republican Party email [e-mail]

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[iceman_1960]

"Here at home, it can be easy to overlook the bravery shown by Iraqi troops and Iraqi civilians who are in the fight for freedom," Mr. Bush said in a radio address taped at his ranch in central Texas."

Sitting in his comfy ranch, his every need and comfort attended to, Bush speaks of "bravery in the fight for freedom."

When his troops were freezing and starving at Stalingrad, the German commander in chief, sitting in a warm comfortable room far away, spoke of their duty to show indomitable courage in the face of suffering and death.

Some things never change.

[drummer94]

Now shrub is taping his *********. He must be getting some wind about impending whupass on his horizon and won''t venture far from his "ranch". And where is HalliCheney, Ricearoni, and Gonzo? They drop off the radar pretty easily, don''t they? Is that what they think is their "making sacrifices"?