WASHINGTON, Aug. 23, 2007

Spy Chief Shares Surveillance Secrets

National Intelligence Director Reveals Previously Classified Details About Foreign Surveillance

  • National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell told the El Paso Times that the debate about whether to update the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act will cost American lives because of all the information it revealed to terrorists.

    National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell told the El Paso Times that the debate about whether to update the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act will cost American lives because of all the information it revealed to terrorists.  (APTN)

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(AP)  National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell pulled the curtain back on previously classified details of U.S. government surveillance and of a secretive court whose recent rulings created new hurdles for the Bush administration as it tries to prevent terrorism.

McConnell's comments — made in an interview with the El Paso Times last week and posted as a transcript on the newspaper's Web site Wednesday — raised eyebrows for their frank discussion of previously classified eavesdropping work conducted under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, known as FISA. Among the disclosures:

  • McConnell confirmed for the first time that the private sector assisted with President Bush's warrantless surveillance program. AT&T, Verizon and other telecommunications companies are being sued for their cooperation.

  • He provided new details on court rulings handed down by the 11-member Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which approves classified eavesdropping operations and whose proceedings are almost always entirely secret. McConnell said a ruling that went into effect May 31 required the government to get court warrants to monitor communications between two foreigners if the conversation travels on a wire in the U.S. network.

  • McConnell said it takes 200 hours to assemble a FISA warrant on a single telephone number.

  • Offering never-disclosed figures, McConnell also revealed that fewer than 100 people inside the United States are monitored under FISA warrants. However, he said, thousands of people overseas are monitored.

    McConnell's comments were a dramatic departure from the government's normally tight-lipped approach to disclosing any information about how it spies on electronic communications — some of its most sensitive and costly work. The FISA court's activities are particularly protected.

    Even as he shed new light on the classified operations, McConnell asserted that the current debate in the U.S. Congress about whether to update the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act will cost American lives because of all the information it revealed to terrorists.

    "Part of this is a classified world. The fact that we're doing it this way means that some Americans are going to die," he said.

    McConnell was in El Paso, Texas, last week for a conference on border security hosted by House Intelligence Chairman Silvestre Reyes, a Texas Democrat. The spy chief joined Reyes for an interview with his local paper.

    At the end of the interview, McConnell cautioned reporter Chris Roberts that he should consider whether enemies of the U.S. could gain from the information he just shared in the interview, Roberts said. McConnell left it to the paper to decide what to publish.

    McConnell appeared days after the U.S. Congress passed a temporary law to expand the government's ability to monitor suspects in national security investigations without first seeking court approval in certain cases. The highly contentious measure expires in six months.

    After Sept. 11, Mr. Bush authorized the terrorist surveillance program to monitor conversations between people in the United States and others overseas when terrorism is suspected. Until January, no warrants were required. But as the Democratic Congress took over, the Bush administration decided to bring the program under the oversight of the FISA court.

    McConnell said the court initially ruled that the program was appropriate and legitimate. But when the ruling had to be renewed in the spring, another judge saw the operations differently. This judge, who McConnell did not identify, decided that the government needed a warrant to monitor a conversation between foreigners when the signal traveled on a wire in the U.S. communications network.

    McConnell said the government got a temporary stay on the ruling, but it expired at the end of May.

    At the same time, the intelligence community was wrapping up years of work on a National Intelligence Estimate on threats to the homeland — an analysis that is considered its most comprehensive judgment. It found the threat was increasing, McConnell noted.

    Because he sees FISA as a major tool to keep terrorists out of the country, McConnell said he pressed Congress to change the law.

    McConnell's interview raised concerns at the Justice Department, where senior officials questioned whether the intelligence chief had overstepped in discussing the secret FISA court.

    Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse referred questions to McConnell's office, where his spokesman Ross Feinstein declined to comment.


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    by speakinup August 24, 2007 12:04 PM EDT
    "Foreign Policy Magizine ---- Bush''''s War on Terror is Failing" j-whitman

    Thanks to idiot liberals! They would rather see our service men and women killed and have us lose the war, than admit we are doing the right thing and lose another election.

    Good job undermining us, liberals. Thanks to you the terrorists will be in a town near you.

    Go ahead idiot, tell us again how you are trying to make this lame connection between the President and nazis, because Hitler used a mock terrorist raid to justify WWII.

    Are we all to believe the government staged the twin towers?

    Oh, and tell us how many Senators are in Congress. I love this one. J-whitman said we have 110 Senators folks. Yup, this is the left all right.

    Want to know why I don ''t debate the ''facts'' with you? You: lie, distort the truth, would say anything to make the President look bad. Now WHY would I want to give you a platform to do that?

    When I point these things out - your response is, "liberals are being silenced by the Republicans". Then you spread more lies.

    Stay tuned folks, and see what I mean.
    Reply to this comment
    by j-whitman August 24, 2007 5:20 AM EDT
    Foreign Policy Magizine ---- Bush''s War on Terror is Failing
    Reply to this comment
    by lars008-2009 August 23, 2007 8:08 PM EDT
    It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! March 23, 1775 Patrick Henry

    USA''s PLEDGE 2 THE WORLD GIVEN BY JFK!!

    "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961

    "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." - John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961

    One ought never to turn one''s back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Winston Churchill

    "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein

    Edmund Burke: All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.
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    by lars008-2009 August 23, 2007 8:04 PM EDT
    it is fascist nazi terrorislam stupid%u2026.

    non muslims of the world unite... fight against the tyranny of the fascist nazi terrorslam imperialist empire of the darkside...

    I was a fanatic...I know their thinking, says former radical Islamist
    By blaming the Government for our actions, those who pushed this "Blair''s bombs" line did our propaganda work for us.
    More important, they also helped to draw away any critical examination from the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770
    Bless the Beasts and Children
    Fascist nazi terrorslam kills every man woman and child in the village again%u2026 typical mo for terrorslam%u2026
    http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/bless-the-beasts-and-children.htm

    Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
    http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20arabia%20pagan
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    by searingtruth August 23, 2007 7:52 PM EDT
    Fellow citizens,

    The time has come to end the fascist reign of Bush and his henchmen.

    I will see you on September 15 in Washington D.C. at the mass impeachment/anti-war march. If you haven''t made your plans to be there yet please go to sep15.org and impeachbush.org for details on the American peoples first chance to speak and be heard in seven years.

    As I have said many times before, the Constitution fails to defend itself, enduring only in the brave hearts of those who would uphold it.

    And it needs every brave and loyal American in Washington D.C. on September 15th to uphold, defend, and restore it.
    ST


    "When everything is secret, everything is legal."
    SearingTruth

    "We need not debate the existence of our three branches of government, only the punishment for those who would destroy them."
    SearingTruth


    "The Republican Party is the first political party in American history that proudly and boldly attempted to abolish the Constitution of the United States of America.

    And they succeeded.

    Under their heinous reign American freedom died, without a whimper.

    It is time to reclaim it.

    With a roar."

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    by lars008-2009 August 23, 2007 7:24 PM EDT
    Posted by UnderMyBoot at 04:07 PM : Aug 23, 2007

    FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM / PERFECT EXAMPLE OF FASCISM!!!

    Fascist nazi terrorislam is intent on killing or enslaving all non muslims......

    name one muslim country that grants equal rights to its non muslim citizens...

    The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems.
    Simply stated, a fascist government always has one class of citizens that is considered superior (good) to another (bad) based upon race, creed or origin. It is possible to be both a republic and a fascist state. The preferred class lives in a republic while the oppressed class lives in a fascist state.
    http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/Structure3.htm
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    by kiwi_chick August 23, 2007 7:14 PM EDT
    j-whitman...you''re giving me the $hits

    it''s austrALia

    not austria

    that''s what dimwit lars is trying to tell you...in his own a$$inine way.
    Reply to this comment
    by undermyboot August 23, 2007 7:07 PM EDT
    Bush and his neocon masters are fascists. mudrose is a fascist-loving monkey. ROFLMAO Go back to commie China or authoritarian Iran where you belong. This is still a free country, and will remain so long after your attempts to make it a police state have failed.

    "If ye love safety greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." -- Samuel Adams

    %u201CIt was, as one of his colleagues confirmed, almost a happy day for him when famous buildings were destroyed, because at such time he put into his speeches that ecstatic hatred which aroused the fanaticism...%u201D George Bush after 9/11 (oops, I mean - Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister)
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    by gretagreen August 23, 2007 7:01 PM EDT
    Why would it take 200 hours to obtain a FISA warrant? What takes so long?? I know you can get one after the fact, so this time shouldn''t slow down the government in tapping, but still . ..
    Reply to this comment
    by j-whitman August 23, 2007 6:43 PM EDT
    Lars008,,, I thought you said you were the big world traveler ??? Look it up
    Reply to this comment
    by obiwan234 August 23, 2007 6:42 PM EDT
    You Bush hating drones are as pathetic as it comes. Liberalisum in America today is the problem, not a solution.
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    by lars008-2009 August 23, 2007 6:40 PM EDT
    Lars008,,,,, Melborne, Victoria, Austria ?? Has always been in Ausrtia,, thier own census goes back to 1871 & it is hundreds of years older.

    http://immigration.museum.vic.
    gov.au/origins/history.aspx?id=3
    Posted by j-whitman at 03:29 PM : Aug 23, 2007

    show me melborne or Melbourne austria on any map...

    show me Adelaide austria on any map...
    Reply to this comment
    by j-whitman August 23, 2007 6:29 PM EDT
    Lars008,,,,, Melborne, Victoria, Austria ?? Has always been in Ausrtia,, thier own census goes back to 1871 & it is hundreds of years older.

    http://immigration.museum.vic.gov.au/origins/history.aspx?id=3
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    by mudrose-2009 August 23, 2007 6:24 PM EDT
    mudrose,,,,, Hellooooo,,, It came from the White House Executive Summary & they declassified it for the release... Didn''''t you say you were in the military once ???
    Posted by j-whitman

    Yooooooohooooooooo, Whitty the Dumb. Did you know the program existed before the Times leaked it?
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    by lars008-2009 August 23, 2007 6:23 PM EDT
    FOX News Rupert Murdock was born in Melborne, Victoria, Austria in 1931
    Posted by j-whitman at 03:14 PM : Aug 23, 2007

    FOX News was founded in Adelaide, Austria, 1979, became incorporated in New York in 1995 under Murdoch..... Adolf Hitler was Austrian
    Posted by j-whitman at 03:11 PM : Aug 23, 2007

    hahahahahaha

    Australian-born American-Australian
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch

    hahahahaha

    since when is there an Melborne or an Adelaide in austria

    hahahahahaha
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    by j-whitman August 23, 2007 6:21 PM EDT
    mudrose,,,,,, FYI, We torture people & imprison them for years without due process just to obtain the same Al Queda communications the NSA director witheld from our CIA -- The very agency tasked with following Al Queda ---
    ---- Bush promoted the political shrub to Director of the CIA
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    by mudrose-2009 August 23, 2007 6:21 PM EDT
    Posted by j-whitman

    Whitty we all know you are a muslim sympathizer. Trying to prove Fox news and Bush and every ring winger is a Fascist or Hitler is just more Ahmadinejad propoganda. I think you should join the Quds Force and fight for your country. Really Whitty, it''s where you belong. Go with Allah.
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    by j-whitman August 23, 2007 6:17 PM EDT
    mudrose,,,,, Hellooooo,,, It came from the White House Executive Summary & they declassified it for the release... Didn''t you say you were in the military once ???
    Reply to this comment
    by j-whitman August 23, 2007 6:14 PM EDT
    nyckate,,,, FOX News Rupert Murdock was born in Melborne, Victoria, Austria in 1931
    Reply to this comment
    by mudrose-2009 August 23, 2007 6:12 PM EDT
    The solution is clear - don''''t declassify them and they can''''t be released and the terrorists can''''t read them.
    Posted by nyckate

    But the New York Times can leak them. Sorry, too late.
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