February 11, 2009 4:20 PM

GOP Senator: Withdraw Some Troops By Xmas

(CBS/AP)  Sen. John Warner said Thursday President Bush should start bringing home some troops by Christmas to show the Baghdad government that the U.S. commitment in Iraq is not open-ended.

The move puts the prominent Republican at odds with the president, who says conditions on the ground should dictate deployments.

Warner, R-Va., said the troop withdrawals are needed because Iraqi leaders have failed to make substantial political progress, despite an influx of U.S. troops initiated by Bush earlier this year.

Warner says the departure of even a small number of U.S. service members — perhaps 5,000 out of the 160,000 troops in Iraq — would send a powerful message throughout the region that time is running out.

"We simply cannot as a nation stand and continue to put our troops at continuous risk of loss of life and limb without beginning to take some decisive action," he told reporters after a White House meeting with top aides to President Bush.

Sen. Warner – just back from Iraq – said U.S. soldiers are now fighting for a failing government, reports CBS News correspondent Bob Orr.

"I really firmly believe the Iraqi government under the leadership of Prime Minister Maliki has let our troops down," Warner said.

It's the messenger, not the message, that is important, says CBS News chief Washington correspondent Bob Schieffer.

"John Warner is the single most influential Republican voice on Capitol Hill," says Schieffer. "Other Republicans listen when he's talking about defense matters."

Warner's new position is a sharp challenge to a wartime president that will undoubtedly color the upcoming Iraq debate on Capitol Hill. Next month, Gen. David Petraeus, the top military commander in Iraq, and U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker are expected to brief members on the war's progress.

A White House spokesman, Gordon Johndroe, declined to say whether President Bush might consider Warner's suggestion.

Asked whether President Bush would leave the door open to setting a timetable, Johndroe said: "I don't think the president feels any differently about setting a specific timetable for withdrawal. I just think it's important that we wait right now to hear from our commanders on the ground about the way ahead."

Republicans, including Warner, have so far stuck with Mr. Bush and rejected Democratic proposals demanding troops leave Iraq by a certain date. But an increasing number of GOP members have said they are uneasy about the war and want to see President Bush embrace a new strategy if substantial progress is not made by September.

Warner, known for his party loyalty, said he still opposes setting a fixed timetable on the war or forcing the president's hand.

"Let the president establish the timetable for withdrawal, not the Congress," he said.

Nevertheless, his suggestion of troop withdrawals is likely to embolden Democrats and rile some of his GOP colleagues, who insist lawmakers must wait until Petraeus testifies.

His stature on military issues also could sway some Republicans who have been reluctant to challenge a wartime president. Warner is a former Navy secretary and one-time chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee; he is now the committee's second-ranking Republican.

Warner said he came to his conclusion after visiting Iraq this month with Democratic Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, committee chairman. Earlier this week, Levin said Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki should be replaced. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., followed suit, saying Maliki has been "a failure."

Warner said he "could not go that far" to call for Maliki's resignation but said he did have serious concerns about the effectiveness of the current leadership, confirmed by an intelligence report released Thursday. The National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq predicted it would be 12 months before the U.S. could expect a reconciliation.

"When I see an NIE which corroborates my own judgment — that political reconciliation has not taken place — the Maliki government has let down the U.S. forces and, to an extent, his own Iraqi forces," he said.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said the report confirms what most Americans already know: "Our troops are mired in an Iraqi civil war and the president's escalation strategy has failed to produce the political results he promised to our troops and the American people."

"Every day that we continue to stick to the president's flawed strategy is a day that America is not as secure as it could be," said Reid, a Nevada Democrat.

© 2009 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
  • Scott Conroy

    Scott Conroy is a National Political Reporter for RealClearPolitics and a contributor for CBS News.

Add a Comment See all 289 Comments
by donnie900 August 24, 2007 5:02 AM EDT
I git tingles..
Reply to this comment
by donnie900 August 24, 2007 4:59 AM EDT
"You''''re not the only female here. Starleo is and there are a few who use female names. Of course that doesn''''t always mean anything."

I think I was a female in my last life.
Reply to this comment
by tbweb August 24, 2007 4:46 AM EDT
Us hated around the world.
Russian nuclear bomber flights resumed.

Posted by downtowner97 at 12:56 AM : Aug 24, 2007,,,

The rest of the World knows what''s going on in the U.S. and with the Bush administration! The Russian''s were the first to acknowledge giving the U.S. a pass until after the 2008 Presidential Elections and waiting for the next U.S. administration. The Russian''s say they want balance on the cheap and not a return to the Cold War. The Russian''s are willing to wait the Bush administration out, but 17 months is a long time and hopefully no additional stupidity happens before then! It is possible for the World to return to normal and for the World to enjoy a nice Olympics and return to sanity despite opinions to the contrary.
Reply to this comment
by August 24, 2007 4:26 AM EDT
stonebog wrote:

"Kombat (kerry) says one sack of medals for each month over there. 3 months = 3 sacks.

Hanoi Jane looks for his Ho Chi medal. Sitting on it."

Jowand - is that you? I know you''re also going by the nick of badaxmofo.
Reply to this comment
by sgtrds August 24, 2007 4:25 AM EDT
-Hope I''''m not the only female to post here, and wish females could be involved more often into opinions and commenting over this thread. Unfortunately we are not very fond on the political thing (especially foreign policies). Too bad!

Posted by grazinggoat at 11:00 PM : Aug 23, 2007

You''re not the only female here. Starleo is and there are a few who use female names. Of course that doesn''t always mean anything.
Reply to this comment
by seven-pesos August 24, 2007 4:12 AM EDT
the south is completely happy with george bush, jr.

dixie creeps are looking for another faith professing christian creep to replace bush.

howz about rush limbaugh?

they love rush in the south.

rush, bush, gonzalez, condisleezeball, swaggart, falwell, robertson, reed, delay...

all southern, all republican, all christian, all snakes...

slave state bush loving snakes!

nothing good comes out of the south.
Reply to this comment
by jb01201a August 24, 2007 4:11 AM EDT
The End is Near


Anxious Republicans fear another beating
By Jim Snyder
July 27, 2007
Nine months after Republicans were routed in the midterm elections, campaign observers, K Street lobbyists and political experts say there is little evidence the party can rebound in 2008.

Yea, yea, now we will be commi country under her thigness, Hillary. Socialize health, more taxes,Washington and New York City attack again. Sounds like a bright future to me.
Reply to this comment
by downtowner97 August 24, 2007 3:56 AM EDT
Bush milestones:

An attack on US soil.
Falling value of the dollar abroad.
Rising fuel prices.
Declining military enlistment.
The nullification of the bill of rights.
The removal of all US troops from Saudi Arabia.
The collapse of the Israeli peace process.
The election of Hamas in Palestine.
The first nuclear test in North Korea.
3700 US soldiers dead.
$8.5 Trillion in debt.
Bin Laden still free.
Us hated around the world.
Russian nuclear bomber flights resumed.
Congress lost to Democrats.
A corrupt government installed in Iraq.
Creation of new and ineffective govt. agencies.
Unprotected borders.
Record debt.
Record bankruptcies.

If these facts hurt your feelings, stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes tightly, and yell "Clinton got a blojob!!!"
Reply to this comment
by seven-pesos August 24, 2007 3:43 AM EDT
slave state south... bush country!

rednecks, reborns, war, hate, christian creeps, republican snakes...

nothing good comes out of the south.
Reply to this comment
by seven-pesos August 24, 2007 3:40 AM EDT
to date the south still hasn''t apologized for starting the civil war...

haven''t apologized for horrendous crimes against their african slaves...

haven''t apologized for those murderous civil rights days of lynching, cross burning and other nefarious deeds...

do you think the south will apologize for giving america that snake, bush?

i don''t think so.

war, hate, arrogance, phony christian creeps...

nothing good comes out of the south.
Reply to this comment
See all 289 Comments
.
Scroll Left
Scroll Right More »
CBS News on Facebook