Aug. 21, 2007

Singleton: Comedies Stereotype Black Men

Director/Producer Says Most Comedies Featuring African-American Stars Are "Coon Shows"

  • Martin Lawrence, left, as the title character in

    Martin Lawrence, left, as the title character in "Big Momma's House 2" and Eddie Murphy in drag for a scene in "Norbit."  (AP GraphicsBank)

  • Photo Essay Eddie Murphy

    This veteran funnyman has moved into a season of victories with "Dreamgirls."

(CBS)  Producer and director John Singleton says he's been questioned about his use of violence in films like "Baby Boy" or "Shaft." But, he wonders why journalists aren't asking about a different kind of portrayal of black men in films like "Norbit" and "Big Momma's House."

"Nobody who has ever asked me about that has ever complained about the successful movies that are coming out that feature men with dresses on," he tells EURWeb.com in a recent interview. "I applaud Tyler Perry for his independence, but when it's Tyler Perry, Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence and nobody is telling them anything bad about it or telling young boys 'you know that this is just a joke' and they call those movies 'family movies.'"

"Most of the movies that are comedies are coon shows," he adds.

Singleton says there are exceptions, like the recently released "Talk To Me" starring Don Cheadle. But he believes those films aren't getting the exposure they deserve.

"'Talk To Me' was a great comedy. I'm not attacking either film because we are all in the family, and I wish them success, but I just think that it is a shame that 'Who's Your Caddy?' got a thousand screens and 'Talk To Me' only got 50. People are hungering for a great movie," he said.

Photos: Eddie Murphy
As far as the violence in his own films, Singleton says that he's drawing as much inspiration from the classic tragedies as he is from the 'hood.

"You watch 'Baby Boy,' and that film is real ghetto but the way that I'm doing it, unless you had a background in literature, you wouldn't know that there's Greek tragedy in there," he said.

A rep for Eddie Murphy told The ShowBuzz, "we have no comment."

Singleton's latest work as a producer is the thriller "Illegal Tender" starring Rick Gonzalez and Wanda de Jesus. It opens Aug. 24. He's also set to direct Halle Berry in "Tulia" and is working on the comic book adaptation "Luke Cage."



By Judy Faber
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by keithle1 August 23, 2007 8:35 AM EDT
Long live Richard Pryor. In his own league. Saw an old stand-up concert movie with just Richard & the mike. Great. Heck of a lot funnier than these so-called "comedies." You couldn''t pay me to see them.

Eddie Murphy has done some decent work since his SNL days but I don''t think you can point to a movie of his that was consistently funny. (A
non-stand up movie anyway. His first concert film was great.) Bits of his movies are funny. Some are bombs: "Pluto Nash." When he dresses up to play another character, he''s funny. Very talented. Problem is the lousy quality of scripts. Eddie was funnier on SNL but then it''s a lot easier to make a 5-minute skit funny than a 2-hour movie. Of course you can''t stay on SNL forever.

The British have a long tradition of their comedians dressing up as women: "Monty Python,"
"Benny Hill," etc.

Funny is funny. If you''re worried all the time about hurting someone''s feelings then you better get out of comedy. But that''s the way we seem to be headed in this country. (Concerned citizens trying to take the "n" word out of "Huckleberry Finn" because it might cause lasting damage to the "students of color" in the class.)

You can''t beat stand-up when it''s good. I''d rather watch that than 95% of comedies made today that are stale, predictable & dull.
Maybe it''s because I''m not a teenager. Saw a stand-up concert with comedian Patton Oswalt ("King of Queens") that had me laughing so hard I started coughing.
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by infidel_us August 22, 2007 6:06 PM EDT
What would Spike Lee say? :)
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by Syndicate August 22, 2007 3:40 PM EDT
I saw Carlos Mencia the other night. He had a Black Women doing her impersonation of a Black Women. That was funny. Stereo types are just that stereotypes. But sometimes a person falls rite into that category. I''m white and I about fell over when I relized there are actually white people who fit nicley into a whaite stero type.
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by arealtexan August 22, 2007 1:09 PM EDT
If something''s funny, it''s funny. Typical comedies generally use stereotypes to make fun of anything, including white folks. No one has to say at the begining of Norbit, "This is a comedy, please don''t take this seriously." You can tell it''s a comedy from the get-go. GEEZ
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by brianbwb-2009 August 22, 2007 12:15 PM EDT
And white comedies are honky shows. So what else is new? If it ain''''t funny then it don''''t fly.
Posted by Extremophil

Beg to differ, there have been many broad based comedies on TV and in movies, the Marx Brothers, "Rowan and Martin''s Laugh In", "Carol Burnette", "I love Lucy", and if you had access, Monty Python''s Flying Circus", Spike Milligan''s "the Goon Show", and "Fawlty Towers", that had no need to rely on stereotypes for humor.

But when Richard Pryor was given a slot, the media controllers decided he was too "controversial" because he dared reflect humorously on real life, instead of the expected stereotypes, so his Emmy winning show was cancelled. Eddie Murphy''s "Harlem Nights" was universally panned by white critics, but still stands as one of the US''s finest comedy movies, post Marx Brothers...
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by brianbwb-2009 August 22, 2007 12:04 PM EDT
When in doubt, blame it on the white man.
Posted by Keithle1

There is no doubt.
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by extremophil August 22, 2007 11:50 AM EDT
And white comedies are honky shows. So what else is new? If it ain''t funny then it don''t fly.
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by keithle1 August 22, 2007 10:01 AM EDT
When in doubt, blame it on the white man.
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by brianbwb-2009 August 22, 2007 6:43 AM EDT
Black men stereotyping in comedy films BY BLACK MEN!
Posted by thisandthat1

With money, distribution, and promotion from WHITE MEN, who only accept that which perpetuates the stereotypes.
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by norshatakaha August 22, 2007 2:04 AM EDT
Fat suits are funny!
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by keithle1 August 21, 2007 11:14 PM EDT
Why do they have to be told it''s a joke? Admittedly a lame one. "Look at Eddie Murphy dressed up as a fat woman! Ha ha ha ha hee hee!" Look around to see if everyone in the theater is laughing. "Dag, that''s funny, y''all."

They use the word "comedy" very loosely.
"Young Frankenstein" is a comedy. I don''t know
what this stuff is. Very broad humour. Flatulence & fat people jokes. Stuff that is not far from Mickey Rooney''s portrayal of the Japanese neighbor who lived upstairs from
Audrey Hepburn in "Breakfast At Tiffany''s."

Maybe it helps if you''re in high school. Or drunk/stoned.
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by screenname07 August 21, 2007 10:38 PM EDT
"whassup" i think you answered yourself!
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by rational_1 August 21, 2007 9:41 PM EDT
Well if the movies showcase rampant illegitimacy and a lot of black-on-black violence, and there''s a reverend blaming whitey for it all, then what you have there is a documentary, not a movie. And that''s just sad more than anything else.
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by dgshiner August 21, 2007 8:44 PM EDT
I agree this is USA you have choices if you like comedy, drama, murder, mayhem, etc. What is good that Blacks can keep you entertained in all of the categories, as well as keep it real! I get tired of portraying Blacks as murders and all of the vile things that they show but whenever you watch shows like Law & Order it is the average white male that is the rapist, thief, murderer and some of them are still walking around unpunished too. But if a black man does anything he is bashed it is 2007 whassup with that?
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by thisandthat1 August 21, 2007 7:56 PM EDT
Black men stereotyping in comedy films BY BLACK MEN!
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