Padilla Found Guilty On Terror Charges

Jury Finds Jose Padilla And Two Others Guilty On All Counts Of Supporting Al Qaeda

(CBS/AP)  Jose Padilla was convicted of federal terrorism support charges Thursday after being held for 3½ years as an enemy combatant in a case that came to symbolize the Bush administration's zeal to stop homegrown terror.

Padilla, a U.S. citizen from Chicago, was once accused of being part of an al Qaeda plot to detonate a radioactive "dirty bomb" in the U.S., but those allegations were not part of his trial.

Padilla was portrayed as an al Qaeda terrorist planning to attack an American city with radiation-laced explosives. He was locked up in a military prison and labeled an "enemy combatant" for 3 1/2 years.

To avoid a showdown in the Supreme Court, the government eventually moved Padilla into the criminal system, and now he's been convicted of conspiring to support terrorists - charges far less serious than the "dirty bomb" allegations first leveled by the Bush administration, reports CBS New correspondent Bob Orr.

Padilla, 36, and his foreign-born co-defendants, Adham Amin Hassoun and Kifah Wael Jayyousi, were convicted of conspiracy to murder, kidnap and maim people overseas, which carries a penalty of life in prison. All three were also convicted of two terrorism material support counts, which carry potential 15-year sentences each.

Jurors deliberated for a day and a half after a three-month trial. U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke set a Dec. 5 sentencing date.

The three were accused of being part of a North American support cell that provided supplies, money and recruits to groups of Islamic extremists. The defense contended they were trying to help persecuted Muslims in war zones with relief and humanitarian aid.

The White House thanked the jury for a "just" verdict.

"We commend the jury for its work in this trial and thank it for upholding a core American principle of impartial justice for all," said Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the National Security Council at the White House. "Jose Padilla received a fair trial and a just verdict."

Estela Lebron, Padilla's mother, said she felt "a little bit sad" at the verdict but expected her son's lawyers would appeal.

"I don't know how they found Jose guilty. There was no evidence he was speaking in code," she said, referring to FBI wiretap intercepts in which Padilla was overheard talking to Hassoun.

In 2002, the Bush administration portrayed Padilla, a U.S. citizen and Muslim convert, as a committed terrorist who was part of an al Qaeda plot to detonate a radioactive "dirty bomb" in the U.S. The administration called his detention an important victory in the war against terrorism, not long after the Sept. 11 attacks.

The charges brought in civilian court in Miami, however, were a pale shadow of those initial claims — in part because Padilla was interrogated about the plot when he was held as an enemy combatant in military custody with no lawyer present and was not read his Miranda rights.

Padilla's attorneys fought for years to get his case into federal court, and he was finally added to the Miami terrorism support indictment in late 2005 just as the U.S. Supreme Court was poised to consider President Bush's authority to continue detaining him. Padilla had lived in South Florida in the 1990s and was supposedly recruited by Hassoun at a mosque to become a mujahedeen fighter.

"The defense's theme — don't let prosecutors force you to look at pre-9/11 conduct through the lense of the post-9/11 present — was an abysmal failure in the eyes of these jurors," says CBS News legal analyst Andrew Cohen.

The key piece of physical evidence was a five-page form Padilla supposedly filled out in July 2000 to attend an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan, which would link the other two defendants as well to Osama bin Laden's terrorist organization.

The form, recovered by the CIA in 2001 in Afghanistan, contains seven of Padilla's fingerprints and several other personal identifiers, such as his birth date and his ability to speak Spanish, English and Arabic.

"He provided himself to al Qaeda for training to learn to murder, kidnap and maim," said Assistant U.S. Attorney Brian Frazier in closing arguments.

Padilla's lawyers insisted the form was far from conclusive and denied that he was a "star recruit," as prosecutors claimed, of the North American support cell intending to become a terrorist. Padilla's attorneys said he traveled to Egypt in September 1998 to learn Islam more deeply and become fluent in Arabic.

The defense contended Padilla and the others were merely interested in helping fellow Muslims suffering in war zones, reports Orr.

"His intent was to study, not to murder," said Padilla attorney Michael Caruso.

Central to the investigation were some 300,000 FBI wiretap intercepts collected from 1993 to 2001, mainly involving Padilla's co-defendants Hassoun and Jayyousi and others. Most of the conversations were in Arabic and purportedly used code such as "tourism" and "football" for violent jihad or "zucchini" and "eggplant" instead of military weapons or ammunition.

The jury heard dozens of the wiretapped calls — some in Arabic, some in English — recorded over a six-year period. Padilla was heard in both languages in only seven calls, reports CBS News producer Phil Hirschkorn.

The bulk of these conversations and other evidence concerned efforts in the 1990s by Hassoun and Jayyousi, both 45, to assist Muslims in conflict zones such as Chechnya, Bosnia, Somalia, Afghanistan and Lebanon.

Hassoun is a computer programmer of Palestinian descent who was born in Lebanon. Jayyousi is a civil engineer and public schools administrator who is a naturalized U.S. citizen originally from Jordan. Jayyousi also ran an organization called American Worldwide Relief and published a newsletter called the Islam Report that provided details of battles and political issues in the Muslim world.

"It wasn't a terrorist operation. It was a relief operation," said Jayyousi attorney William Swor.

[gopack443]

It''s sad that we can''t trust our government to ever know if this guy or others like him are really guilty or just another pawn in the anti-American bush administration.

[wfbdem]

guyfrompa45: Toughest guy behind a firewall. More than willing to let real americans fight and die in his stead.

guyfrompa45: Proud member of the 101st Fighting Keyboardist. Risking carpal tunnel everyday, so other may die in his stead.

Looks like we found just another cowardly rightwing wimp.

[pastdue1]

"The evidence presented at the trial showed that Padilla was a lowlife who consorted with a real and dangerous enemy. His fingerprints were found on an al-Qaeda application form unearthed in Afghanistan. "

Is this the best the justice department can do about coming up with a real live terrorist to publicize? We know Padilla was used as an example and, perhaps, this trial could stop other disillusioned teenagers from glamourizing terrorists organizations. However, his rights were compromised and, if true, his torture has diminished US moral and ethical influence in the world.

[wfbdem]

cowardfrompa45: A coward, coupled by the eagerness to let other people who he has not met die so he can get a half-woody off the power of American might, if only by association

guyfrompa45: Proud member of the 101st Fighting Keyboardist. Risking carpal tunnel everyday, so other may die in his stead.

Looks like we found just another cowardly rightwing wimp.

guyfrompa45 wrote:

"wiat let me get this straight.. One on the low lifes held in Guantanimo was actually convicted. You mean you liberal idiots who were voicing your displeasure of how they were mistreated may actually have to see the REAL truth about whats going on. These people want to KILL us...Open your eyes"

If you had your eyes open and had half a clue, you''d know he wasn''t held in Gitmo.

Judging from your spelling, I''d say you''re just a typical redneck dumb fu_k who likes his sister a little too much.

Better luck next time moron.

Time is running out for you Republicanazis.

[lars008-2009]

Is islam a violation of international law???

islam practices slavery on non muslims
islam practices apartheid on non muslims
islam practices rape on non muslims
islam practices rape on babies and animals
islam practices genocide on non muslims

all are violations of international law and are crimes against humanity

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/22/world/main2505445.shtml
Imam Khomeini - Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution
http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445
Malaysia women ''suffer apartheid''
The daughter of Malaysia''s former prime minister has launched a scathing attack on the roles and status of Muslim women in the country.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4784784.stm
A matter of tolerance
http://musingwithmarinamahathir.blogspot.com/2006/12/matter-of-tolerance.html
Marina Mahathir
http://musingwithmarinamahathir.blogspot.com/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=slavery+islam&btnG=Search
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4795808.stm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apartheid islam
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape islam
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape islam babies&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=genocide islam&btnG=Search

[lars008-2009]

Suicide Killers
http://www.pierrerehov.com/
''Obsession''
Documentary gives insight into radical Islam%u2019s global threat
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/launchPage.html?110506/110506_fnl_obsession&%27Obsession%27&FNL&Documentary%20gives%20insight%20into%20radical%20Islam%92s%20global%20threat&Foxlife&-1&%27Obsession%27&Video%20Launch%20Page&News

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/12min.htm
http://myspace.com/waragainstthewest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BL4-mxE87w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpcpEQtgp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BUqXSeCDJc
UK TV AIRS SHOCK ''UNDERCOVER'' LOOK INTO MAINSTREAM BRIT MOSQUES...
Dispatches: Undercover Mosque
This is part one of the much-anticipated UK Channel 4 documentary Dispatches: Undercover Mosque, exposing evidence of Islamic supremacism, shocking misogyny, and support for violence at a number of Britain%u2019s leading mosques and Muslim institutions. (Thanks again to LGF operative kasper.)
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24018_Dispatches-_Undercover_Mosque&only

lars008 is a **** - http://profielen1.****.nl/show.php?nick=lars008

lars008 has a dislike of all things muslim because his advances were rejected.

http://profielen1.****.nl/show.php?nick=lars008

[lars008-2009]

NONE OF US IS FREE UNLESS ALL ARE FREE!!!

WHY IS IT NOT ONE MUSLIM COUNTRY GRANTS EQUAL RIGHTS TO NON MUSLIMS???

FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM SAYS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATES ISLAM LAW...

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

For example, in 1981, the Iranian representative to the United Nations, Said Rajaie-Khorassani, articulated the position of his country regarding the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by saying that the UDHR was "a secular understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition", which could not be implemented by Muslims without trespassing the Islamic law.

http://www.un.org/terrorism/
http://www.un.org/terrorism/strategy-counter-terrorism.html
http://www.un.org/

But the accepted assumption in India is that most of India''s Muslims were converted to Islam through the sword. Meaning the Indians were given an option between death or adopting Islam. The third option was getting examined in Islam religion along with heavy taxes- Jeziya (poll tax) and Kharaj (property tax).

http://adaniel.tripod.com/Islam.htm

this is what fascist nazi islam calls peace....

are you ready to live under islam rule as a non muslim???

apartheid fascist nazi islamic style

Rights of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/islamic_state.htm

[lars008-2009]

fascist nazi terrorislams global jihad....

Islamic worldview and the reason why it becomes a calamity in the 21st century

The Islamic world view of converting the entire human species to Islam at the pain of death is not something novel. It has existed for 1400 years since this cult of death and destruction was founded by Mohammed-ibn-abdallah, the nefarious bandit and murderer in the 7th century in Mecca. What makes this world view a calamity is the fact that Muslim have started acquiring WMD capability off late. While all these centuries, they could carry on with their murder and mayhem only with swords from the 7th century up to the 16th century. So they could be defeated by those who could wield swords better and more so by those who in addition to this managed to recognize the mortal threat to all non-Islamic civilizations that Muslims represented. There have not been very many on this planet who could see through the murderous message of the Quran, that the Muslims robotically believe is the message from some god, to be divinely followed by placing their swords on the necks of all their defeated victims and giving them the choice Islam or death.
http://www.historyofjihad.org/globaljihad.html
http://www.historyofjihad.com/sitemap.html

[lars008-2009]

WHAT RELIGION WAS MUHAMMAD ALI BABA BEFORE HE CONVERTED TO JUDAISM???

The Jews proved obdurate; their doctrine had no place in it for Arab prophets or messiahs. They took a malicious pleasure in exposing the ignorance of biblical history which Mohammed displayed in his stories about biblical persons, thus impugning his claim to have his stories by revelation. He retorted that his was the true and original version; if it was told otherwise in the books of the Jews it was because they had falsified their Scriptures. The attitude of the Jews was not only vexatious, but had in it a visible element of danger. In conjunction with the %u2018hypocrites,%u2019 as Mohammed calls the numerous class who outwardly professed Islam but had no real faith in it, they might at more than one crisis have made his position in Medina untenable. In the interludes in the conflict with the Meccans, Mohammed, on one pretext or another, fell upon the Jews, and did not stop till he had driven out all their tribes from Medina, and conquered their strongholds in the oasis of Khaibar.%u201D
http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/2005/08/mohammeds-ethnic-cleansing.html

[lars008-2009]

WHAT RELIGION WAS MUHAMMAD ALI BABA BEFORE HE CONVERTED TO JUDAISM???

Mohammed%u2019s ethnic cleansing
%u201CAt Medina he expected the Jews to recognize the agreement between his teaching and theirs, and to own him as a prophet in the true succession, perhaps as the Messiah for whom they were waiting. The Moslems, when they prayed, turned their faces toward Jerusalem; the Day of Atonement was made a solemn fast for Moslems, the one great fast in the year. Mohammed did not see why if he acknowledged Moses and his Torah, the Jews should not acknowledge him and his Koran.
http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/2005/08/mohammeds-ethnic-cleansing.html

[lars008-2009]

Is Islam Evil?
Given the recent worldwide attacks by Islamic terrorists, why isn''t the question "Is Islam evil?" With few exceptions (Turkey, for example), Islamic countries are fascist, autocratic or theocratic, where women are subjugated and minorities persecuted. Islamic countries are rife with poverty and have been for centuries. Polls show that in many Islamic countries a majority of Muslims lionize the man responsible for the atrocities of September 11th and the terrorist gangs who routinely slaughter civilians in Israeli buses and restaurants. In Arab schools and on Arab television, children are taught the glory of becoming suicide bombers. Almost everywhere that Islam borders other cultures, there is violence.

The idea, then, that Islam is evil has far more plausibility than the idea that United States is evil. But merely, raising the question, "Is Islam evil?" provokes an instant, inevitable outcry: "Bigot!" "Racist!" "Zionist!" Indeed, the attempt to suppress debate on this question is so intense that few people in the mainstream will ask it.
http://www.liberty-and-culture.com/pages/2/index.htm

[lars008-2009]

the war that fascist nazi terrorislam started rages on 1400 years later...

The Truth about Islamic Crusades and Imperialism

Historical facts say that Islam has been imperialistic%u2014and would still like to be, if only for religious reasons. Many Muslim clerics, scholars, and activists, for example, would like to impose Islamic law around the world. Historical facts say that Islam, including Muhammad, launched their own Crusades against Christianity long before the European Crusades.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/11/the_truth_about_islamic_crusad.html
http://www.americanthinker.com/2004/08/the_muslim_crusades.html

Islamic origins
http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/pdf/compass/hico_058.pdf
Origin of Islam
http://www.allaboutreligion.org/origin-of-islam.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Origin+of Islam%3A Secular History

[lars008-2009]

the crusades Muhammad ali baba started rages on 1400 years later...
623 - Battle of Waddan
623 - Battle of Safwan
623 - Battle of Dul-''Ashir
624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.
624 - Zakat becomes mandatory
624 - Battle of Badr
624 - Battle of Bani Salim
624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr
624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa''
624 - Battle of Sawiq
624 - Battle of Ghatfan
624 - Battle of Bahran
625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.
625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad
625 - Battle of Banu Nudair
625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa
626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra
626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal
626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah
627 - Battle of the Trench
627 - Battle of Ahzab
627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza
627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan
627 - Battle of Ghaiba
627 - Battle of Khaibar
628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.
630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.
630 - Battle of Hunsin.
630 - Battle of Tabuk
632 - Muhammad dies.
http://www.carm.org/islam/islam_chronology

[lars008-2009]

Religion of Peace?: Islam''s War Against the World (Hardcover) by Gregory M. Davis
http://www.amazon.com/Religion-Peace-Islams-Against-World/dp/097789844X
The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World''s Most Intolerant Religion by Robert Spencer
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Muhammad-Intolerant-Religion/dp/1596980281/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b/002-8081703-9164051
Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America by Brigitte Gabriel
http://www.amazon.com/Because-They-Hate-Survivor-Islamic/dp/0312358377/ref=pd_sim_b_1_img/002-8081703-9164051
While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within by Bruce Bawer
http://www.amazon.com/While-Europe-Slept-Radical-Destroying/dp/0385514727/ref=pd_sim_b_2_img/002-8081703-9164051
America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It by Mark Steyn
http://www.amazon.com/America-Alone-End-World-Know/dp/0895260786/ref=pd_sim_b_3_img/002-8081703-9164051
The Politically Incorrect Guide(tm) to Islam (and the Crusades) by Robert Spencer
http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Guide-Crusades-Guides/dp/0895260131/ref=pd_sim_b_4_img/002-8081703-9164051
Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel, and the War on Terror by Nonie Darwish
http://www.amazon.com/Now-They-Call-Infidel-Renounced/dp/1595230319/ref=pd_sim_b_5_img/002-8081703-9164051
Infidel by Ayaan Hirsi Ali
http://www.amazon.com/Infidel-Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali/dp/0743289684/ref=pd_sim_b_1_img/002-8081703-9164051

lars008 wrote:

"what do you call an ideology that:

kills you if you don''''t join it...
kills you if you leave it...
kills you if you don''''t do what they tell you to do..
kills you if you speak against it%u2026.
kills anybody that is not a member of it...
still practices slavery
still practices pagan rituals...
allows the r a p e of babies and animals..."

Hmmm, is it neo-conservatism? Wait, it must be "conservatism". No wait, christianity?

Oh cr@p - I bet it''s all three.

[lars008-2009]

HOW TO TURN CHILDREN INTO MURDERERS...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Hamas+TV%27s Children%27s Show Star Says She Would Be Proud to Be a Martyr&btnG=Google Search

Mickey''s mockers ''pure evil''
Disney''s daughter rips Hamas over toon terror
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/2007/05/09/2007-05-09_mickeys_mockers_pure_evil-2.html
Disney Explains Reaction to Hamas Show
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8P8V2FO1&show_article=1
Hamas steals Mickey Mouse image
to teach hate and Islamic supremacy
http://pmw.org.il/bulletins_may2007.htm
Hamas %u201CMickey Mouse%u201D urges armed resistance
Costumed character appears on Palestinian children%u2019s show
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18560221/
Defiant Hamas TV airs resistance Mickey again
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070511150250.u8z4hs9f&show_article=1
Jihadist Video Shows Boy Beheading Man
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3061367

[lars008-2009]

FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM TO ENSLAVE NON MUSLIM WORLD

HAMAS MICKEY MOUSE SAYS
Islamic rule will benefit Christians and Jews
by Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook - May 14, 2007
The force behind Hamas TV%u2019s controversial Mickey Mouse clone said today that his children%u2019s television program will continue to promote worldwide Islamic supremacy, for everyone''s benefit, including Christians and Jews.

In a long interview on Hamas TV, Hazim Al-Sha%u2019arawi, Deputy Director of Al-Aqsa TV and one of the creators of the Hamas children%u2019s TV show Tomorrow%u2019s Pioneers, said that using the program to promote Islamic rule over other religions is actually promoting %u201Cjustice, goodness and world love.%u201D

Al-Aqsa TV and the Palestinian Authority have been under fire since PMW reported last week that Tomorrow%u2019s Pioneers was using a character named Farfur, a knockoff of Disney%u2019s Mickey Mouse character, to convey messages about Islamic supremacy as well as hatred of Jews, Israel and the U.S. Despite public statements by PA Minister of Information Mustafa Barghouti that the show would be taken off the air until it could be reviewed and revised, a new episode of the program %u2013 featuring Al-Sha%u2019arawi as one of the hosts %u2013 ran Friday.
http://pmw.org.il/bulletins_may2007.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S995NCeaUg