February 11, 2009 4:23 PM

Giuliani Touts ID Card Plan For Foreigners

(AP)  Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani vowed Tuesday to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into the United States by closely tracking visitors to the country and beefing up border security.

"We can end illegal immigration. I promise you, we can end illegal immigration," the former New York mayor said at a community center — the first of the day's two stops in this early voting state.

Giuliani said he would require a uniform identification card for foreign workers and students and create a central database to track the legal status of visitors to the country. He told the crowd of more than 300 that 12 million immigrants have entered the country illegally.

"That's a lot of people to walk over your border without being identified," he said.

Giuliani wants a tamperproof ID card that includes fingerprinting for everyone entering the country and a central database to track when they leave.

The ID card and other immigration proposals have been part of Giuliani's campaign speeches for several months. He says he would allow a pathway to citizenship only for illegal immigrants who identify themselves as illegal, who learn English and who go to the back of the line to apply.

They would get ID cards to stay and work. "If you want to work — pay your fair share — we'll sign you up. People who don't come forward, I would fine and throw out of the country," Giuliani said later Tuesday, during a campaign stop in Columbia.

In recent days, rival Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor whose state has been home to a few self-proclaimed "sanctuary cities," such as Cambridge, Mass., has repeatedly criticized Giuliani, arguing that he supported illegal immigration when he was mayor. Giuliani rejected the charge.

Romney argues that Giuliani "instructed city workers not to provide information to the federal government that would allow them to enforce the law. New York City was the poster child for sanctuary cities in the country."

But New York has never officially declared itself a "sanctuary city." Last month, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg told Congress that the city protects residents' confidentiality when they report a crime or seek medical care or education — a local policy that dates to 1988.

Giuliani defended and supported that executive order while mayor. In South Carolina on Tuesday, Giuliani did not take questions from reporters.

Bloomberg has said repeatedly that immigrants are important contributors to the city's economy and crucial to the city's survival. Asked Monday about the idea of New York City as a sanctuary for immigrants, Bloomberg said, "let 'em come."

"I can't think of any laboratory that shows better why you need a stream of immigrants than New York City," he added. "I don't know what to tell anybody. They just — if they don't believe that immigrants add a heck of a lot more than they cost, they just aren't looking at the numbers."

Answering Romney last week, Giuliani said New York "had the least amount of illegality per capita of any major city in the country and I brought that change about."

In South Carolina Tuesday, Giuliani said he would continue construction of a border fence, deport any illegal alien who commits a felony and propose that all immigrants who want to become citizens learn English.

Giuliani and Romney opposed the bipartisan immigration legislation backed by President Bush. Rival Sen. John McCain of Arizona was the only Republican candidate to support the measure.

During his Columbia stop, Giuliani told a crowd of about 100 that competition, tax credits and high deductibles would do more to increase the spread of health care than expanding government programs. He slammed plans for universal health care, something long backed by Democratic rival Sen. Hillary Clinton.

"What Hillary wants to do is not an American solution to the problem. It's a solution that marches us — and boy do they get angry about this, but sometimes the truth hurts — it marches us right to socialized medicine," he said.

Giuliani planned to wrap up the South Carolina trip with a private fundraiser in Florence, the largest city in South Carolina's tobacco country, about 80 miles east of Columbia.

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by jburdman7 March 10, 2010 9:26 PM EST
Submit to a scan of your hand or forehead in order to obtain work. Its not exactly the Mark of the Beast in Revelations Chapter 13 but... well OK yeah I guess it is.
http://www.antichristid.com/
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by tbweb August 17, 2007 2:01 AM EDT
Does anyone else have a "new" windows user account? Seems my family has increased it''s membership and mr.aspnet has his own personal account on MY computer and if i''m not mistaken probably some of you alls too.

Posted by coffeehead at 03:54 PM : Aug 15, 2007,,,

Ah hem, I think your solution is to meet Mr. LINUX.
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by nottellin1 August 15, 2007 7:09 PM EDT
So mr. microshaft and the dictators have decided that I have no rights to my own computer. I would also suggest doing a search for what was downloaded daily - it will surprise you.


Posted by coffeehead at 03:54 PM : Aug 15, 2007

Seriously? I'm not sure what you are referring to in your comment but it sounds pretty scary to me. Is this how Randy was highjacked?
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by coffeehead-2009 August 15, 2007 6:54 PM EDT
Thanks rushlimpdrug I am new at this game as you can tell and I appreciate you letting me know cbs does that all the time, with the spy thing you never know.

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Does anyone else have a "new" windows user account? Seems my family has increased it's membership and mr.aspnet has his own personal account on MY computer and if i'm not mistaken probably some of you alls too.

I wanted to see who this guy was that had made himself welcome in my computer and tried to open HIS account~~~~ he doesn't want me to see his personal business though because he has it password protected.

So mr. microshaft and the dictators have decided that I have no rights to my own computer. I would also suggest doing a search for what was downloaded daily - it will surprise you.

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by frankinaz August 15, 2007 6:39 PM EDT
Soon, any illegal immigrant will be able to purchase this ID card at their local swap meet, just like the SSN cards that can be purchased. These vendors just sell SS numbers and ID cards, and could not care less who buys them, let alone if they are issued to actual people, living or dead. This actually happens in Las Vegas, NV, and no doubt other areas of the country, but the Federal Government does nothing to stop type of forgery, even though they know it goes on.
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by randaids August 15, 2007 6:21 PM EDT
This is not our Randy this is someone using his name on here. Randy is posting under SgtRdS now very confusing and I can not understand who wants to use Randy's name or better yet Why? can you?
Posted by starleo146 at 02:54 PM : Aug 15, 2007

Don't know why you'd be confused. Nothing I've posted sounds at all like some thing that Randal would post, plus I have never tried to impersonate him. Why? You ask. Because it is really, really funny to me.
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by starleo146 August 15, 2007 6:07 PM EDT
Posted by rushlimpdrug at 11:03 AM : Aug 15, 2007
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Thanks rushlimpdrug I am new at this game as you can tell and I appreciate you letting me know cbs does that all the time, with the spy thing you never know. Why was the Rove stories taken off so quick you reckon, I was having so much fun with it.I do not believe I've seen a story disappear so quick, but as you say no need to cry over spilled milk, I WILL CHILL thanks again.
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by coffeehead-2009 August 15, 2007 5:59 PM EDT
Rudy does not have a clue, but if it sounds good to the average person, he will use it.
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He knows perfectly well what he is doing...
They still feel that American's are just too dumb to figure out the long term PLAN. The "ID" cards have a "special" purpose.

Please note the blacklisting of one candidate.
Every other person running is getting FREE media attention but ONE..... wonder why?

Vote Ron Paul.

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%u201CDirecto a Mexico,%u201D the name of the program, enables US commercial banks to make money transfers for Mexican workers through the Federal Reserve%u2019s own automated clearinghouse, which is linked to Banco de Mexico, the Mexican central bank. Few Americans are aware of the connection between the Fed and foreign banks and this program would be just another that exists in the shadow world of international banking.

To use the service, a Mexican need only possess a matricula consular, an ID issued by the Mexican consulate in most major US cities to those with proof of Mexican birth or citizenship, or a picture ID card issued by the US or another foreign government. The idea is to make it cheaper and safer for illegal workers to send funds to their relatives in Mexico.

http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=4402
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by starleo146 August 15, 2007 5:54 PM EDT
Posted by Klingon69 at 12:20 PM : Aug 15, 2007

This is not our Randy this is someone using his name on here. Randy is posting under SgtRdS now very confusing and I can not understand who wants to use Randy's name or better yet Why? can you?
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by sjc_1 August 15, 2007 5:44 PM EDT
Any time a politician comes up with a half baked technology "solution", everyone should be skeptical. Rudy does not have a clue, but if it sounds good to the average person, he will use it. The average person does not have a clue, but if they go for it even more people in politics will use it. It does not matter that the idea will never work and cost us a fortune that we can not afford to spend.
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