New York Reacts To Dirty Bomb Threat
Israeli Web Site Finds Threat, Police Briefly Set Up Security Check Points
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New York Weathers Bomb Scare
Officials thought that New York City might be the site of a bomb explosion, so they acted accordingly, doing their best not to give the terrorists what they want: disruption. Randall Pinkston reports.
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A member of the NYPD Emergency Service Unit uses a radiation detection device to check a truck at a security checkpoint on Broadway and Canal St. in lower Manhattan, Saturday, Aug. 11, 2007 in New York. (AP)
New York police say the threat of a dirty bomb was unsubstantiated, but CBS News correspondent Randall Pinkston reports, the response was emphatic.
No one got a pass: At check points along major traffic routes, officers with radiological sensors scanned cars and mail trucks, city buses – any vehicle that could transport dangerous cargo.
There was also aerial surveillance, plus extra sensors on police patrol boats in the city's rivers and harbor.
First word of the threat came from an Israeli-based Web site quoting an alleged American member of al Qaeda predicting attacks in New York, Miami and Los Angeles.
Terrorism experts say it may be a hoax, but, for America's enemies, it accomplishes a goal.
"It's a cheap way to disrupt us, life is going to be more difficult for residents of New York City today," said CBS News terrorism analyst Randy Larsen. "Traffic will be more difficult. It's something for al Qaeda to do, even if they have no capability whatsoever."
Throughout the summer, officials say there's been heightened chatter from intelligence sources of possible threats. Just last month, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said he has a 'gut' feeling that al Qaeda is about to strike.
In July, CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric asked Chertoff if there was any intelligence that al Qaeda was ready to attack at a moment's notice.
"No specific evidence that we're poised on the brink of an attack," Chertoff responded, "but a recognition – as you see from time to time when cases become public – that there are people in the country who at a minimum sympathizers, if not more, and who we have to keep a very close eye on."
A dirty bomb, if one were to be set off, might not kill many people, but it would damage the nation's sense of security.
"Remember it's not a weapon of mass destruction, its a weapon of disruption," Larsen said.
Officials in Miami and Los Angeles made no adjustments to their normal security arrangements. By late today, New York City had taken down check points, but officials insist they will not lower their vigilance.
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A Dirty Bomb Threat or explosive diarrhea attacks can happen very suddenly :)
The world at war in such a way is very very dangerous and difficult to control.
And just for the record, the republicans got us in to this mess, so I'm not real clear why you are defending them. If you really mean what you say, and you want to nuke the whole Middle East, you should be just as dissatisfied with them as RandalDS.
Why haven't there been any terrorist attacks in the US since 9/11? It's not because our borders have been sealed. They haven't. It's not because people who have overstayed their visas have been rounded up and kicked out of the country. They haven't. It's not because police and government security have been very effective. They haven't.
Are terrorists lazy, afraid of being caught, cartoonishly stupid, or waiting for a really good opportunity to attack us?
Maybe our government just wants us to think an attack is imminent so we won't mind them spending trillions of dollars on pointless programs, huge pork barrel spending sprees, and creating new and even more inept security departments like Homeland Security.
I'm a republican, and my good republican father told me when I was a kid "Democrats start wars, and republicans end them." He also told me democrats are bad because they spend money we don't have, which leads to higher taxes.
Folks, FACE FACTS. We are being led by NeoCon extremists who LIED us into a needless, horrific War of Aggression. Cheney and Bush took the Fear-mongering and fake-flag-waving right out of Hitler's play book.
JAIL Cheney and Bush for their War Crimes! (Yes Lying us into an Invasion, which has killed thousands, is a CRIME!).
And Vote Ooy all the spineless, complicit Democrat cowards who do nothing to stop the War-Mongerers.
Posted by socrates392 at 10:26 PM : Aug 11, 2007
Thank you and I love that signon name! I've said all along that the people who should be the most angry at the neocons in charge right now should be the real republicans, not the democrats. Real republicans don't believe in nation building, but the chimp in charge does, even though when running for office he swore he didn't. In other words he lied. Same with the lies about wanting a balanced budget, fiscal responsibility and staying out of private citizens lives. All real republican values the chimp has sworn he believes in and then done just the opposite. Barry Goldwater is spinning in his grave over what the chimp has done to his once proud party.
but good christians are not allowed to live like bad savages and worst: small kids take 99% of the punishments in their jurisdiction
if 90,000 counties of 90,000 folk
and 300 groups of 300 folk each county,
and 300 armies of 300 folk for 90,000 soldiers,
then soldiers can kill / heal / feed / tax each of 8 billion folk in less than 40 years by killing / healing / feeding / taxing just 10 folk each per work day
instead of the 1 in 50 that like to dance get sick tax world songs all over the trails and pages,
perhaps 49 in 50 that prefer to dance get well feed world songs all over the trails and pages should have all the market share tax money armor weapons alcohol and parades
what sense is there in a good government to dare shock awe, raping and starving millions and billions
just to insure no evil government dares shocks awes, raping and starving millions and billions
to make around min wage, i need a dollar from each of 60 folk per workday, in a county of 90,000 that's .0667% of folk: or a dollar from each resident each six plus years
for the whole county to make min wage, each would need one dollar from 60 folk each day, and each would, therefor, have to pay one dollar to each of sixty folk each day
the 3rd world is ever but a perceptive blink away
It's time New York City was truly vested financially as the FIRT DEFENSE, or ground-zero of ANY terrorist threat on US soil. THIS WOULD MEAN we are CONSTANTLY peopled with enough professionals and equipment for 24/7 defense against any auto/truck/ship borne chemical/radiological threat.
The "American" Al Qaeda is probably Cheney, or Rove, and the assertion that "First word of the threat came from an Israeli-based Web site" is also not surprising, and is only a sad attempt to lend "credibility", any real threat would not need to come from an "Israeli web site".
Don't forget, the Iraq report is due soon, and if it is anywhere near truthful, will not bode well for Bush, or Israel, so the scare tactics increase. If that is not enough, then the attacks will indeed occur, but they will be another inside job.
twilbur1, the nut jobs aren't even in Iraq, as Walt Kelley said, "I have seen the enemy and he is us!"
Re: "there are people in the country who at a minimum sympathizers, if not more, and who we have to keep a very close eye on."
"...at a minimum sympathizers..."???
Can't CBS Nooz even get the propaganda sound bite quote from Chertoff's gut right?
This alleged "threat" was made by Adam Gadahn, and was "reported" By DEBKAfile (Israel's FOX equivalent). Adam Gadahn (born Adam Pearlman) is an American who supposedly "converted" to Islam.
His Jewish grandfather, Carl K. Pearlman, was on the Board of Directors of a pro-Israeli extremist group known as the Anti-Defamation League.
What are the chances that this grandson of a Jewish activist converted and joined a Muslim extremist group? Probably slim to none. Adam Gadahn looks like an imposter who functions as a useful boogieman, threatening the public as needed to maintain a climate of fear.
A copy of the Gadahn video was "obtained" by the 2-person disinformation factory known as the SITE Institute. According to the hoaxsters at SITE, the 5/4-hour video includes a new cartoon animation of some attack or another.
Since this latest fable was first presented by the Israeli corporate press, rather than the U.S. corporate press, we can probably safely conclude that this latest video was produced by 'al-Mossada", rather than "al-CIA'da".
Don't forget to be scared! BOO!
Posted by FeelFree1 at 01:52 AM : Aug 12, 2007
And always remember Rove's wisdom. Scared people vote republican! Which is actually sad considering that means that 51% of American voters in the 2004 election were cowards. Once upon a time we were thought of as a pretty courageous nation. Now days many Americans cower under their beds and beg baby Doc Bush to save them from the "evil doers". Rather pathetic.
After graduation, Bush served as a field artillery captain with the American Expeditionary Forces (1917-1919) during World War I. He received intelligence training at Verdun, France, and was briefly assigned to a staff of French officers. Alternating between intelligence and artillery, Captain Bush came under fire in the Meuse-Argonne offensive. Controversially, Bush wrote home about receiving medals for heroic exploits. His letters were later published in Columbus newspapers, but were retracted a few weeks later when it was revealed that he, in fact, had not received such medals. The retraction was made in a cable in which Bush stated that his earlier letter had been written "in a spirit of fun" and was not intended for publication.[citation needed]
[edit] Business career
After his discharge in 1919, Prescott Bush went to work for the Simmons Hardware Company in St. Louis, Missouri.
The Bushes moved to Columbus, Ohio, in 1923, where Prescott Bush went to work for the Hupp Products Company, where his business efforts generally failed.
In 1924, Bush was made a vice-president of Harriman & Co. by his father-in-law, George Herbert Walker, to help supervise the new Thyssen/Flick United Steel Works. Also employed by the company were E. Roland Harriman and Knight Woolley, Yale classmates and Skull & Bones members, with Bush.
The Business Plot, The Plot Against FDR, or The White House Putsch, was an uncovered conspiracy involving several wealthy businessmen to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933.
Purported details of the matter came to light when retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler testified before a Congressional committee that a group of men had attempted to recruit him to serve as the leader of a plot and to assume and wield power once the coup was successful. Butler testified before the McCormack-Dickstein Committee in 1934 [1]. In his testimony, Butler claimed that a group of several men had approached him as part of a plot to overthrow Roosevelt in a military coup. One of the alleged plotters, Gerald MacGuire, vehemently denied any such plot. In their final report, the Congressional committee supported Butler's allegations on the existence of the plot,[2] but no prosecutions or further investigations followed, and the matter was mostly forgotten.
General Butler claimed that the American Liberty League was the primary means of funding the plot. The main backers were the Du Pont family, as well as leaders of U.S. Steel, General Motors, Standard Oil, Chase National Bank, and Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company. A BBC documentary claims Prescott Bush, father and grandfather to the 41st and 43rd US Presidents respectively, was also connected.[3]
Just last month, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said he has a 'gut' feeling that al Qaeda is about to strike.
"No specific evidence that we're poised on the brink of an attack," Chertoff responded, "but a recognition %u2013 as you see from time to time when cases become public %u2013 that there are people in the country who at a minimum sympathizers, if not more, and who we have to keep a very close eye on."
I'd say we better keep an eye on Chertoff - seems he's one those American sympathizes with the israeli zionists - probably has one of their passports too. Does anyone remember his heroic performance as head of FEMA during Kathrina?
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Carl Rove should, and might be in jail: and Bush, when he finally leaves, may well have enough charges against him to be a subject of a new presidential pardon. CONGRATS!
Now that we're finished with that, GET BACK TO REALITY. We SHOULD HAVE LET AN ATTACK HAPPEN?
NOT FOR THE 30% TAX RATE I PAY: NOT IN MY USA!!!
I'm not tithing the FED and local govt to sit on their hands while there's still protection work to be done in NYC.
And liberal idiots do nothing while terrorists plot to fly jetliners into highrise buildings. I think libs are the biggest losers.
oh well. terrorists and liberals deserve each other.
Posted by xzavierbrown at 01:47 PM : Aug 12, 2007
Oh you mean like their Republican mayor who "proactively" refused to upgrade the fire and police radios after the first attack on the WTC (you remember, the one where the terrorists were actually caught and sent to prison....under Clinton) or who "proactively" put the city command center IN the WTC complex? Is that the type of idiocy you mean? The republican kind?
www.zeitgeistmovie.com
A little 'chatter' on the net and an entire city is all but paralized, people see a few 'lite brites' advertising signs on the wall in Boston, someone panics and the bomb squad comes out, the city is in a panic and shuts down.
The terrorists HAVE WON, and they don't even have to DO anything physical, a little emails, maybe a silly web site, a new little 'Osama' clip or 'chatter' on the net and we go into panic- change the TERROR ALERT color chart to YELLOW, no QUICK! change it to RED!! MORE 'CHATTER' DANGER!! DANGER!! WILL ROBINSON- DANGER!!!!
Posted by FeelFree1
Great feelfree1, if you are the dude who has been posting that here, it's a GREAT film, it shows the FRAUD of Christianity, the FRAUD of 9/11 and the FRAUD of the Federal Reserve central banking system, it's 2 hours long and the best 2 hours you can spend.
Youtube has it divided into its 3 main parts as well as each part divided into smaller segments. I discovered I happen to have a friend who knows at least a couple of the originators of the material in that film. The feedback I got last night was the originators of part of this were not happy they did not get more credits for their work which was used in this, the 2 hour film is compiled from many sources all combined into one long clip. There may be some copyright and other issues involved too, but dam, this is a great expose' and I made sure I downloaded copies.
When you see how christians plagiarised the Egyptian book of the dead and others, it all makes complete sense how screwed up christianity really is- 12 deciples stolen from the 12 signs of the zodiac, 3 kings, virgim birth, dead for 3 days, resurrected- all come from the sun worship, zodiac and so on.
That being the case since that awful day.
Now I throw my paws in the air and think..
Yer never told the blind nothing that works for us.
So we tap merrily about our way wondering.
How does legally blind people be vigilaance
in a fully sighted world that we can't relate to their sight.
It seem we fall thru the cracks so nobody cares of our needs or our paart in post 9/11 nation.
Yet I *see* US of A as one hell of a place.
So forgive me if looks to ye that I don't care .
as I do.
I am so sick and tired of the mess ye made .
Yet, ye say * YOU CAN'T *..
I cry cos that was all I heard growing up, YOU CAN'T.
Now please get off yer arse tear that wall that has gone up.
A wall of controling people who are so scared they force us to live a life that violates all we are.
Yet I ponder we the people and wonder how could one man so messed himself can be so bloody cold to us all .
Abuse that trust of the constution and we the people.
verse by Michelle
Re: "Great feelfree1, if you are the dude who has been posting that here, it's a GREAT film, it shows the FRAUD of Christianity, the FRAUD of 9/11 and the FRAUD of the Federal Reserve central banking system, it's 2 hours long and the best 2 hours you can spend."
Agreed. I have promoted this film in this forum, but it was actually the poster 'fascistusa' that turned me on to it.
I think that we stand a real chance of realizing some solutions, if we can reach a consensus on the problems.
Cheers!
I think that we stand a real chance of realizing some solutions, if we can reach a consensus on the problems.
Posted by FeelFree1"
Got it, well I'm not sure what solutions there ARE and of course the religious reich will never change their minds- a banner made up of the moon and stars could appear across the sky put there by flying saucers saying "jesus was faked LOL" and they would STILL believe it, they are hopeless.
Others still thing the Govt is 100% on the up and up, history says otherwise and the 9/11 event had far too many issues to be coincidences. Bush's BROTHER as head of security of an airport and the WTC on 9/11, whats the odds of that being platonic!!
REPUBLICANS are responsible for ALL of the above, AND, for that matter, the neo con twerp whose daddy got it all wrong ("REPUBLICANS WIN WARS?" when? WWI, WWII? no... sorry! and, as far as I can tell, those are the ONLY TWO WARS the US has won in the last 1oo years) YOU are the classic example of neo con intelligence... all wrong, and backwards!
NOW, I have to go get ready to take the subway to work until WEDS to pay my share of taxes for this NEO-CON mess of a US government policy.
REBUBLICANS CREATE NATIONAL DEBT, RECESSIONS, DEPRESSIONS, WHILE LOSING WARS AND ANY "FAITH" SECULAR OR OTHERWISE THEY "INSPIRE" IS A LIE!
That being the case since that awful day.
Now I throw my paws in the air and think..
Yer never told the blind nothing that works for us.
So we tap merrily about our way wondering.
How does legally blind people be vigilaance
Posted by MichelleM99
Look, no ones gives a RATS A$$ about his "legally blind" bull$hit. You are just ignorant and illiteratem and it has nothing to do with any supposed sight problem - YOUR problem is lack of education and lack of intelligence. FU(K OFF you bleeding heart cry baby. You suck you pathetic pitiful moron.
1. thanks feelfree for the tip on the movie, but you "preach to the choir" about religion and politics here. BOTH are based upon failing memories of history, unfortnately.
And, unfortunately for the citizens PAYING 30%FOR this "religious Repubikan (sp) democracy", our POLICY, which creates the only real facts we can trust, IS ALSO based on failed memory, or lack of knowledge of history.
2. And, Republikkan-ers, face the fact: neo-CON "intel" FUNDED, TRAINED AND SUPPLIED SADDAM, bin laden and ALL his boys in the 80's. Aren't there pictures somewhere of Rems-field shaking hands with OSAMA as there are pix of him shaking SADDAM's claw?
I think so.. so, please, republikans, keep the preachin in your sham of a chuch. (and, for the record here, ALL CHURCHES MOSQUES, TEMPLES ARE SHAMS.)
PLEASE, people: it isn't about god, neo-cons OR deficit spending, it's a simple as this:
30% of your paycheck for falling bridges and roadways, losing a 2 front war in Iraq AND afghanistan (AND no OSAMA??), AND STILL I am looking over my shoulder in the nyc subway?
CMON. There's your political unity: what will we demand in return for our 30% REQUIRED donation???????????
Re: "1. thanks feelfree for the tip on the movie, but you "preach to the choir" about religion and politics here."
You are welcome, but I hope that you will have a chance to watch the entire film. This aspect is only one of 3 major sections in this film.
That was a very nasty and ignorant comment to 'MichelleM99'. Very poorly stated.
I can't imagine that you could have earned a PhD in any field other than cruely.
A Dirty Bomb Threat or explosive diarrhea attacks can happen very suddenly :)
Apparantly not, because there's still some right wingers here who post like stinkingrick and the other bibull thumpers.
Hey ms PHD- shutupyouface! you don't know what you are talking about in regards to legally blind, I've worked with legally blind as well as totally blind on-line and in person before and dealt with their text to speech and speech to text software problems, so I know how it is.
I'd much rather read Michelle's posts than your KRAP, she comes off well educated, as well as educated in the school of hard knocks while you come off as a TROLL
phd my azz.
Troll...not worth the effort...except to lift my leg to metaphorically (look it up stupid) pis*s on you....
CBS:
"Claim of Plot to Strike City Unfounded, Officials Say"
www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/nyregion/12alert.html?em&ex=1187064000&en=6e639913db8f9722&ei=5087%0A
Why not issue an apology and a retraction of this rediculous hoax?
" am in such a state of fear or terror I dirtied my pants with explosive diarrhea a Dirty Bomb a Dirty Poo Bomb :)
A Dirty Bomb Threat or explosive diarrhea attacks can happen very suddenly :)"
my vote is for YOU to be the FIRST one who watches the "Dirty poo bomb" device made of medical and warehouse wastes explode on the subway platform in front of you!
Probably easy to say for you from minnesota or oregon, far from the 1st battleground of domestic terrorism...
Come with me and the other 1 million new yorkers for ONE MONDAY MORNING on the train... and we'll wait those anxious miuntes and speak in person about terrorism and real bankforthebuck (30 cents on every dollar ENFORCED) "HOMELAND SECURITY" got in in ya?
I think NOT.
you all might want to stop watching internet video and TV and read this before you comment irresponsibly...
Fed of American Scientist testimony about dirty bombs, circa 2005:
http://www.fas.org/faspir/2002/v55n2/dirtybomb.htm
Believe me, if it is shipped here, it's coming through NYC, and we are the first target.
why hasn't rove used that to galvanize public support behind the suspicious "Homeland Security" project? Why do we not regard NYC as the true ground zero and first defense of the "homeland"?????
idiocy, or intrigue???
I'd say, ignorant idiocy, but I am an intellectuall elitist from a blue state who lost their best friend in the WTC...
go figure!
discuss... lessons?
1. NYC and DC and perhaps LA are US ground zero: their ports should be a world-reknowned scientific model of DB and WMD preparedness and response?
2. We need to focus our political response on bangforthebuck... 30 cents on every dollar for WHAT?
3. ALQ wants to *** us financially first?
The poetry is nice, the partianship dealable, of not ridiculously ignorant, but where's the good ol american knowhow consensus lie here? neocon or lib? religion? Never mind bushit, the prez with a small p... the dems will clean up the financial and military mess, as we always do...
what have we learned here?
I would surely hope that NYC security would be contiguous despite rogue, or unproven threats.
The NYPD TRULY HAS to be america's most knowledgeable and able ~ with highly competent diversity in technical awareness for first response and threat. AND, by measure of the US executive branchs' pattern of virtual neglect of specific funding for extra NYC defenses... the NYPD is expected to be miracle-inductive.
I am concerened that there are few stories of heightened Federal defenses of NYC. Why is the NYPD always rumored to be working alone? Why have few NYorkers been informed of state of the art duckncover techniques?? The list, really, is frightfully long.
WE NEED 24/7 TECHNICAL FEDERAL PRESENCE IN NYC: Our army corps of engineers shuld be employed to
truly create a 24/7 FIRST DEFENSE against radiological/germicidal attacks launched from the street, ship, port, or subway.
We need to know that 110% protection, the best our tax money can buy, plus, the best the NYPD and FED can offer in terms of humanpower protection and threat assumption are in place ALWAYS... 24/7.
Let this be a providential reminder that NEW YORK CITY should be protected first and foremost by the Fed. We are TRULY America's ground zero, and should have our defense funded DEMONSTRATIVELY that way...
John Q. New Yorker
Re: "what have we learned here?"
www.zeitgeistmovie.com
Re: "Why have few NYorkers been informed of state of the art duckncover techniques??"
Good point. How does Cheney really know if his new mini-nukes even work, unless he gets a chance to try one out?
Re: "We need to know that 110% protection, the best our tax money can buy"
What tax money are you referring to? We are almost $9 trillion in debt as a country, not counting personal debt, and we have a staggering bill due from the self-defeating "War on Terror", that has yet to be paid.
China very nearly owns our collective arses, and our economy appears to be heading towards a nasty and painful contraction. Our country is nearly routed. I don't know how we could possibly afford what you are proposing, and it sounds a bit like you are welcoming a police state.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-o3BBr2HIhA
Fox news 5 NYC reports Radioactivity Detected at New Jersey Accident Site
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by prinzowhales
August 13, 2007 3:25 PM PDT
- Nearly 6 years have passed since 9-11 and New York still lacks a state-of-the-art duct tape and plastic shield to help ward off dirty bomb attacks.
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See all 48 CommentsThere is a terrorist group that has already killed tens of thousands of Americans--and its still on the loose! Its called Merck Pharmaceutical--one of its primary weapons is Vioxx. Maybe Homeland Security can go find and annoy them.