New York Reacts To Dirty Bomb Threat

Israeli Web Site Finds Threat, Police Briefly Set Up Security Check Points

(CBS)  Travel in and around Manhattan was brought to a near crawl Saturday as police were prompted by the threat of a radiological weapon to step up security measures.

New York police say the threat of a dirty bomb was unsubstantiated, but CBS News correspondent Randall Pinkston reports, the response was emphatic.

No one got a pass: At check points along major traffic routes, officers with radiological sensors scanned cars and mail trucks, city buses – any vehicle that could transport dangerous cargo.

There was also aerial surveillance, plus extra sensors on police patrol boats in the city's rivers and harbor.

First word of the threat came from an Israeli-based Web site quoting an alleged American member of al Qaeda predicting attacks in New York, Miami and Los Angeles.

Terrorism experts say it may be a hoax, but, for America's enemies, it accomplishes a goal.

"It's a cheap way to disrupt us, life is going to be more difficult for residents of New York City today," said CBS News terrorism analyst Randy Larsen. "Traffic will be more difficult. It's something for al Qaeda to do, even if they have no capability whatsoever."

Throughout the summer, officials say there's been heightened chatter from intelligence sources of possible threats. Just last month, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said he has a 'gut' feeling that al Qaeda is about to strike.

In July, CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric asked Chertoff if there was any intelligence that al Qaeda was ready to attack at a moment's notice.

"No specific evidence that we're poised on the brink of an attack," Chertoff responded, "but a recognition – as you see from time to time when cases become public – that there are people in the country who at a minimum sympathizers, if not more, and who we have to keep a very close eye on."

A dirty bomb, if one were to be set off, might not kill many people, but it would damage the nation's sense of security.

"Remember it's not a weapon of mass destruction, its a weapon of disruption," Larsen said.

Officials in Miami and Los Angeles made no adjustments to their normal security arrangements. By late today, New York City had taken down check points, but officials insist they will not lower their vigilance.

[prinzowhales]

Nearly 6 years have passed since 9-11 and New York still lacks a state-of-the-art duct tape and plastic shield to help ward off dirty bomb attacks.

There is a terrorist group that has already killed tens of thousands of Americans--and its still on the loose! Its called Merck Pharmaceutical--one of its primary weapons is Vioxx. Maybe Homeland Security can go find and annoy them.

[killtheliars]

how come this wasn't included in the story
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-o3BBr2HIhA
Fox news 5 NYC reports Radioactivity Detected at New Jersey Accident Site

[feelfree1]

quintos7,

Re: "what have we learned here?"

www.zeitgeistmovie.com


Re: "Why have few NYorkers been informed of state of the art duckncover techniques??"


Good point. How does Cheney really know if his new mini-nukes even work, unless he gets a chance to try one out?


Re: "We need to know that 110% protection, the best our tax money can buy"

What tax money are you referring to? We are almost $9 trillion in debt as a country, not counting personal debt, and we have a staggering bill due from the self-defeating "War on Terror", that has yet to be paid.

China very nearly owns our collective arses, and our economy appears to be heading towards a nasty and painful contraction. Our country is nearly routed. I don't know how we could possibly afford what you are proposing, and it sounds a bit like you are welcoming a police state.

[quintos7]

In conclusion:

I would surely hope that NYC security would be contiguous despite rogue, or unproven threats.

The NYPD TRULY HAS to be america's most knowledgeable and able ~ with highly competent diversity in technical awareness for first response and threat. AND, by measure of the US executive branchs' pattern of virtual neglect of specific funding for extra NYC defenses... the NYPD is expected to be miracle-inductive.

I am concerened that there are few stories of heightened Federal defenses of NYC. Why is the NYPD always rumored to be working alone? Why have few NYorkers been informed of state of the art duckncover techniques?? The list, really, is frightfully long.

WE NEED 24/7 TECHNICAL FEDERAL PRESENCE IN NYC: Our army corps of engineers shuld be employed to
truly create a 24/7 FIRST DEFENSE against radiological/germicidal attacks launched from the street, ship, port, or subway.

We need to know that 110% protection, the best our tax money can buy, plus, the best the NYPD and FED can offer in terms of humanpower protection and threat assumption are in place ALWAYS... 24/7.

Let this be a providential reminder that NEW YORK CITY should be protected first and foremost by the Fed. We are TRULY America's ground zero, and should have our defense funded DEMONSTRATIVELY that way...

John Q. New Yorker

[quintos7]

forgive me for filibustering here, but has anyone got a real comment here in response to the lesson of this 2 week threat, hoax or no? can this be a feint to gauge preparedness and knowhow? or what?

discuss... lessons?

1. NYC and DC and perhaps LA are US ground zero: their ports should be a world-reknowned scientific model of DB and WMD preparedness and response?

2. We need to focus our political response on bangforthebuck... 30 cents on every dollar for WHAT?

3. ALQ wants to *** us financially first?

The poetry is nice, the partianship dealable, of not ridiculously ignorant, but where's the good ol american knowhow consensus lie here? neocon or lib? religion? Never mind bushit, the prez with a small p... the dems will clean up the financial and military mess, as we always do...

what have we learned here?

[michellem99-2009]

I wrote some thing fot ScarletPhD on the page about small plane crashe in Calif home but as she is too busy being an arse. I was bullyed and I see this as a form of bullying and may be She trying to **** us off. I wrote the verse and if she read the whole thing which she did not she might have learnt something. Some people are so on their high horse or better than the the next. I wrote the verse to share. She is not worth yer getting UPset or pissed over. I would guess she is teen/young adult thinking she is so cool. Dear am of the female gander. IS IT PICK ON ME DAY.HAHA. Some people are more blind in their mind. A womon is not very becoming use the F word. Yes I share apart of me in verse.

[quintos7]

ERRATICA SUM?

" am in such a state of fear or terror I dirtied my pants with explosive diarrhea a Dirty Bomb a Dirty Poo Bomb :)
A Dirty Bomb Threat or explosive diarrhea attacks can happen very suddenly :)"

my vote is for YOU to be the FIRST one who watches the "Dirty poo bomb" device made of medical and warehouse wastes explode on the subway platform in front of you!

Probably easy to say for you from minnesota or oregon, far from the 1st battleground of domestic terrorism...

Come with me and the other 1 million new yorkers for ONE MONDAY MORNING on the train... and we'll wait those anxious miuntes and speak in person about terrorism and real bankforthebuck (30 cents on every dollar ENFORCED) "HOMELAND SECURITY" got in in ya?

I think NOT.

you all might want to stop watching internet video and TV and read this before you comment irresponsibly...

Fed of American Scientist testimony about dirty bombs, circa 2005:

http://www.fas.org/faspir/2002/v55n2/dirtybomb.htm

Believe me, if it is shipped here, it's coming through NYC, and we are the first target.

why hasn't rove used that to galvanize public support behind the suspicious "Homeland Security" project? Why do we not regard NYC as the true ground zero and first defense of the "homeland"?????

idiocy, or intrigue???

I'd say, ignorant idiocy, but I am an intellectuall elitist from a blue state who lost their best friend in the WTC...

go figure!

[feelfree1]

CBS:

"Claim of Plot to Strike City Unfounded, Officials Say"

www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/nyregion/12alert.html?em&ex=1187064000&en=6e639913db8f9722&ei=5087%0A

Why not issue an apology and a retraction of this rediculous hoax?

[sgtrds]

Posted by ScarletPhD at 07:29 PM : Aug 12, 2007

Troll...not worth the effort...except to lift my leg to metaphorically (look it up stupid) pis*s on you....

[nothappyatall]

Re: "1. thanks feelfree for the tip on the movie, but you "preach to the choir" about religion and politics here."

Apparantly not, because there's still some right wingers here who post like stinkingrick and the other bibull thumpers.

Hey ms PHD- shutupyouface! you don't know what you are talking about in regards to legally blind, I've worked with legally blind as well as totally blind on-line and in person before and dealt with their text to speech and speech to text software problems, so I know how it is.

I'd much rather read Michelle's posts than your KRAP, she comes off well educated, as well as educated in the school of hard knocks while you come off as a TROLL
phd my azz.

[mattcbsmatt]

I am in such a state of fear or terror I dirtied my pants with explosive diarrhea a Dirty Bomb a Dirty Poo Bomb :)
A Dirty Bomb Threat or explosive diarrhea attacks can happen very suddenly :)

[feelfree1]

ScarletPhD,

That was a very nasty and ignorant comment to 'MichelleM99'. Very poorly stated.

I can't imagine that you could have earned a PhD in any field other than cruely.

[feelfree1]

quintos7,

Re: "1. thanks feelfree for the tip on the movie, but you "preach to the choir" about religion and politics here."

You are welcome, but I hope that you will have a chance to watch the entire film. This aspect is only one of 3 major sections in this film.

[quintos7]

oh, and two more things I forgot to include:

1. thanks feelfree for the tip on the movie, but you "preach to the choir" about religion and politics here. BOTH are based upon failing memories of history, unfortnately.

And, unfortunately for the citizens PAYING 30%FOR this "religious Repubikan (sp) democracy", our POLICY, which creates the only real facts we can trust, IS ALSO based on failed memory, or lack of knowledge of history.

2. And, Republikkan-ers, face the fact: neo-CON "intel" FUNDED, TRAINED AND SUPPLIED SADDAM, bin laden and ALL his boys in the 80's. Aren't there pictures somewhere of Rems-field shaking hands with OSAMA as there are pix of him shaking SADDAM's claw?

I think so.. so, please, republikans, keep the preachin in your sham of a chuch. (and, for the record here, ALL CHURCHES MOSQUES, TEMPLES ARE SHAMS.)

PLEASE, people: it isn't about god, neo-cons OR deficit spending, it's a simple as this:

30% of your paycheck for falling bridges and roadways, losing a 2 front war in Iraq AND afghanistan (AND no OSAMA??), AND STILL I am looking over my shoulder in the nyc subway?

CMON. There's your political unity: what will we demand in return for our 30% REQUIRED donation???????????

[scarletphd]

Today we are asked to be vigilance.
That being the case since that awful day.
Now I throw my paws in the air and think..
Yer never told the blind nothing that works for us.
So we tap merrily about our way wondering.
How does legally blind people be vigilaance
Posted by MichelleM99

Look, no ones gives a RATS A$$ about his "legally blind" bull$hit. You are just ignorant and illiteratem and it has nothing to do with any supposed sight problem - YOUR problem is lack of education and lack of intelligence. FU(K OFF you bleeding heart cry baby. You suck you pathetic pitiful moron.

[quintos7]

I don't think we can blame the "libs" for the lack of funding for nyc preparedness... or, for that matter, for not being able to better neutralize the threat of Al Quaeda.

REPUBLICANS are responsible for ALL of the above, AND, for that matter, the neo con twerp whose daddy got it all wrong ("REPUBLICANS WIN WARS?" when? WWI, WWII? no... sorry! and, as far as I can tell, those are the ONLY TWO WARS the US has won in the last 1oo years) YOU are the classic example of neo con intelligence... all wrong, and backwards!

NOW, I have to go get ready to take the subway to work until WEDS to pay my share of taxes for this NEO-CON mess of a US government policy.

REBUBLICANS CREATE NATIONAL DEBT, RECESSIONS, DEPRESSIONS, WHILE LOSING WARS AND ANY "FAITH" SECULAR OR OTHERWISE THEY "INSPIRE" IS A LIE!

[nothappyatall]

"Agreed. I have promoted this film in this forum, but it was actually the poster 'fascistusa' that turned me on to it.

I think that we stand a real chance of realizing some solutions, if we can reach a consensus on the problems.
Posted by FeelFree1"

Got it, well I'm not sure what solutions there ARE and of course the religious reich will never change their minds- a banner made up of the moon and stars could appear across the sky put there by flying saucers saying "jesus was faked LOL" and they would STILL believe it, they are hopeless.
Others still thing the Govt is 100% on the up and up, history says otherwise and the 9/11 event had far too many issues to be coincidences. Bush's BROTHER as head of security of an airport and the WTC on 9/11, whats the odds of that being platonic!!

[feelfree1]

newster1,

Re: "Great feelfree1, if you are the dude who has been posting that here, it's a GREAT film, it shows the FRAUD of Christianity, the FRAUD of 9/11 and the FRAUD of the Federal Reserve central banking system, it's 2 hours long and the best 2 hours you can spend."

Agreed. I have promoted this film in this forum, but it was actually the poster 'fascistusa' that turned me on to it.

I think that we stand a real chance of realizing some solutions, if we can reach a consensus on the problems.

Cheers!

[michellem99-2009]

Today we are asked to be vigilance.
That being the case since that awful day.
Now I throw my paws in the air and think..
Yer never told the blind nothing that works for us.
So we tap merrily about our way wondering.
How does legally blind people be vigilaance
in a fully sighted world that we can't relate to their sight.
It seem we fall thru the cracks so nobody cares of our needs or our paart in post 9/11 nation.
Yet I *see* US of A as one hell of a place.
So forgive me if looks to ye that I don't care .
as I do.
I am so sick and tired of the mess ye made .
Yet, ye say * YOU CAN'T *..
I cry cos that was all I heard growing up, YOU CAN'T.
Now please get off yer arse tear that wall that has gone up.
A wall of controling people who are so scared they force us to live a life that violates all we are.
Yet I ponder we the people and wonder how could one man so messed himself can be so bloody cold to us all .
Abuse that trust of the constution and we the people.
verse by Michelle

[nothappyatall]

www.zeitgeistmovie.com
Posted by FeelFree1

Great feelfree1, if you are the dude who has been posting that here, it's a GREAT film, it shows the FRAUD of Christianity, the FRAUD of 9/11 and the FRAUD of the Federal Reserve central banking system, it's 2 hours long and the best 2 hours you can spend.
Youtube has it divided into its 3 main parts as well as each part divided into smaller segments. I discovered I happen to have a friend who knows at least a couple of the originators of the material in that film. The feedback I got last night was the originators of part of this were not happy they did not get more credits for their work which was used in this, the 2 hour film is compiled from many sources all combined into one long clip. There may be some copyright and other issues involved too, but dam, this is a great expose' and I made sure I downloaded copies.

When you see how christians plagiarised the Egyptian book of the dead and others, it all makes complete sense how screwed up christianity really is- 12 deciples stolen from the 12 signs of the zodiac, 3 kings, virgim birth, dead for 3 days, resurrected- all come from the sun worship, zodiac and so on.