Airlines Sue FBI And CIA Over 9/11 Blame

Aviation Companies Want To Interview Investigators From Both Agencies Concerning Blame For The Attacks

(AP)  Airlines and aviation-related companies sued the CIA and the FBI on Tuesday to force terrorism investigators to tell whether the aviation industry was to blame for the Sept. 11 attacks.

The two lawsuits in U.S. District Court in Manhattan sought court orders for depositions as the aviation entities build their defenses against lawsuits seeking billions of dollars in damages for injuries, fatalities, property damage and business losses related to Sept. 11, 2001.

The aviation companies said the agencies in a series of boilerplate letters had refused to let them depose two secret agents, including the 2001 head of the CIA's special Osama bin Laden unit, and six FBI agents with key information about al Qaeda and bin Laden.

The airlines, airport authorities, security companies and an aircraft manufacturer said they were entitled to present evidence to show the terrorist attacks did not depend upon negligence by any aviation defendants and that there were other causes of the attacks.

They said that the depositions were likely to result in evidence showing the terrorists were sophisticated, ideologically driven and well-financed and would have succeeded regardless of any action by the aviation entities.

"The aviation parties are entitled to show that operations conducted by the federal intelligence agencies were the most effective way to uncover and stop the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and that the inability of the federal intelligence agencies to detect and stop the plot is a more causal circumstance of the terrorist attacks than any allegedly negligent conduct of the aviation parties," the FBI lawsuit said.

In the CIA lawsuit, companies including American Airlines owner AMR Corp., United Airlines' UAL Corp., US Airways Group Inc., Delta Air Lines Inc., Continental Airlines Inc. and Boeing Co. asked to interview the deputy chief of the CIA's bin Laden unit in 2001 and an FBI agent assigned to the unit at that time. The names of both are secret.

In the FBI lawsuit, the companies asked to interview five former and current FBI employees who had participated in investigations of al Qaeda and al Qaeda operatives before and after Sept. 11.

Those individuals included Coleen M. Rowley, the former top FBI lawyer in its Minneapolis office, who sent a scathing letter to FBI Director Robert S. Mueller in May 2002 complaining that a supervisor in Washington interfered with the Minnesota investigation of Zacarias Moussaoui weeks before the Sept. 11 attacks.

The lawsuits also sought to speak to Harry Samit, an FBI agent in the Minneapolis office who was among those who arrested Moussaoui in August 2001. They said he had testified that he suggested to his superiors that the Federal Aviation Administration be notified that Moussaoui was involved in a plot to hijack a commercial airliner.

The testimony was critical to their defense because both agencies play key roles in advising the FAA as to whether new security measures were needed to protect civil aviation against terrorists, the lawsuits said.

The airline entities said they need the testimony to defend against accusations that they had primary responsibility to assess the threat posed by terrorists, that they should have detected terrorists' weapons, that they should have anticipated the attacks and that they should have identified and stopped the 19 terrorists who carried out the suicide hijackings.

Requests to interview the agents were rejected as not sufficiently explained, burdensome or protected by investigative or attorney-client privilege, the lawsuits said.

Government spokeswoman Yusill Scribner said she had no immediate comment on the lawsuits.

FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said the agency had not reviewed the lawsuit against it and would not comment on pending litigation.

A victims' compensation fund established by Congress has paid $6 billion to 2,880 families of those who died in the attacks and more than $1 billion to 2,680 injured victims.

But 41 cases filed on behalf of 42 victims remain pending in federal court in Manhattan because some victims decided to pursue the usual court route rather than accept payouts from the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund of 2001.

The first trials to assess damages are scheduled to begin in September.

[kaiyo4u]

And how did they rig it beforehand?
It takes weeks to plant the charges.

Posted by BareEmperor at 12:10 AM : Aug 09, 2007

It would not have to take weeks, anyone adequately trained in demo could plant charges on the center posts at ground level or sub-level in short order. The only thing they have to worry about is not detonating before they get out...
With the center support structures knocked out, the building would collapse in on itself.
The time from the initial impact of the first trade tower to the collapse would have been adequate for demo experts to rig wtc7.
How much information was lost and/or destroyed?
Especially since the FAA and NTSB were not allowed access right away.

[inventagod]

Would Bu$h lie about 9/11?

Hmmm, he has lied about everything else...

http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~richard/reflect/lies.html

[red164]

Posted by retmilspouse at 09:47 PM : Aug 08, 2007


NOW WATCH THE VIDEO

Another Firefighter Testifies On Explosions Inside WTC We Are Change


Wednesday, August 8, 2007



Firefighter John Schroeder, assigned to Engine Company 10 directly across the street from the World Trade Center complex, holds back tears and describes his first-hand experience on Sept. 11th. His story directly contradicts many aspects of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks and corroborates many other eyewitnesses testimony.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/080807_b_explosions.htm

[bareemperor]

Why was WTC7 demolished on 9/11?

And how did they rig it beforehand?
It takes weeks to plant the charges.

Come on, Bu$hCo - There is no statute of limitations on treason and murder...

[retmilspouse]

Posted by veteran71 at 06:37 PM : Aug 08, 2007

Puhhhhhhhhhhhhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezze!!

[bareemperor]

Wonder how fast this story disappears from the news...

[menofoz]

1) How could Arabs who are supposed to be jihadists but were actually party animals, who couldn't even fly a Cessna, shatter our multi-trillion dollar military/intelligence apparatus and simultaneously hijack 4 commercial jets, then fly 3 of them with precision that is difficult for even experienced pilots, without being intercepted by our air defense system?

2) How did 2 planes take down 3 steel-framed skyscrapers?

3) Why did the FBI confiscate surveillance video at the Pentagon?

4) Why do you think it took 14 months before the Bush administration authorized an investigation, underfunded it, appointed government insiders to the commission, withheld documents, left out hours of testimony by key whistleblowers, and Bush and Cheney would only testify in secret?

5) Why is there a gag order on all FAA employees that forbids them from speaking about the events of 9/11 for the rest of their lives?

[menofoz]

Mayor Rudy Giuliani

Within months of the Twin Towers collapse, tons of metal from the collapsed towers were sold to scrap yards in New Jersey, which then sold the debris to other recyclers in the United States and overseas. That metal was evidence which could have helped explain the collapse.

%u2022 Why were the steel beams sold and shipped overseas and not retained as evidence? Was the material examined before it was sent overseas? If not, why not? .............................................................................................................. read more

[menofoz]

911 CNN - Jamie McIntyre - No Plane At The Pentagon video on News911 CNN - Jamie McIntyre - No Plane At The Pentagon streaming video on This just in...
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No Plane Hit the Pentagon | Clipmarkson 9/11 Jamie McIntyre was a reporter at the pentagon, and he stated that no plane hit the pentagon, as he is standing right in front of the pentagon. ...
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YouTube - 9/11: DAN RATHER SAYS WTC COLLAPSES LOOK LIKE ...
9/11: DAN RATHER SAYS WTC COLLAPSES LOOK LIKE DEMOLITIONS ...
Watch video - 32 sec -
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvx904dAw0o

AlterNet: MediaCulture: Dan Rather's Raw DealHe said, "Do I look like the dumbest Texan on the prairie? ..... they still haven't forgiven Rather for talking about controlled demolition when he reported ...
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TalkBack: Dan Rather: Journalism Has Lost Its Guts | reader ...Where was Mr. Rather after he correctly noted on the air during 9/11, that the destruction of the World Trade Center looked like controlled demolition? ...
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[menofoz]

No conspiracy here just witnesses reports.

911 Another firefighter stated "it almost sounded like bombs going off, like boom, ... the demolition of world trade center building

9/11: Bombs, explosions, secondary explosions, explosive devices....how many more times ... 9/11 witnesses heard and saw explosions going off inside the towers,

9-11 Research: Eyewitnesses AccountsFor those formerly in the military, it sounded like a 2000lb bomb going off roughly 1/2 mile in front of you. At once there was a huge cloud of black smoke ...


Larry %u201CPull It%u201D Silverstein gained possession of the Twin Towers in the summer of 2001 and instantly began over-insuring every component. His %u201CPull It%u201D (vestigialconscience.com/PullIt.mp3) testimony, says,


YouTube - 9/11 Pentagon
Jamie McIntyre describes impact area of the Pentagon, intense ...
Watch video - 5 min -
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ2XzBpPKCg

[menofoz]

Posted by veteran71 at 10:40 AM : Aug 08, 2007


Also the timing of Bush%u2019s new spying powers using a backdoor to the Internet and all phone communications, seems that the Admin is becoming more afraid that to many people are doubting the urban myth that Bush and company were promoting. Furthermore many people from all sectors of society are raising questions and are no longer willing to accept unproven theories that have been pushed by those involved in distorting evidence that%u2019s damaging to the official conspiracy theory.

[bareemperor]

The in-your-face demolition of the WTC was a warning of how dangerous the Bu$h cabal really is. We know this. However, this is America, and traitors are traitors. We will find out eventually just who pulled off 9/11, and if it was a cave-dweller, it will be proven to have been Cheney... All evidence points to an inside job.

[random_radar]

I have wondered whether there was any truth to the 9/11 conspiracy theories, but it really doesn't matter to me.

The airlines ought to wonder whether there is any truth to it because it is going to cost them billions.

But the government will make sure no one finds out about a conspiracy because it would be the end of the world for them.

[grumpas]

I think George Bush and his Administration were definitely guilty of incredible arrogance! They were warned several months before hand to expect a terrorist attack. But, just like Clinton's warning when he left office it was all ignored and swept under the rug. Because this administration thinks it the answers to all the mystery's of the universe. They don't think Clinton knew anything! If this bunch knew as much as they imagine they do, 9/11 would have never happened. So as far as I am concerned this administration is guilty of collusion regardless.

[tuckerndfw]

I do not believe George Bush was personally involved in any conspiracy.

Nor do I believe there were more than a handful of people directly involved.

Those people all worked either directly or indirectly for the Mossad. Israel has been the largest single beneficiary of the events of 9/11/01. And, following the money generally always leads to the leaders of a conspiracy.

The Mossad (Israel generally) has a long track record of engaging in all manner of criminal activities. And, they will target their "allies" just as quickly as they will their "enemies." To Israel, everyone is their enemy.

See "Operation Susannah" or the "Lavon Affair" for an example of an operation they badly bungled.

The author of the report in the link below refers to it as:

"This story, known as "Operation Susannah," is thus one of idealism and self-sacrifice, as well as abandonment and an unwillingness to take responsibility."

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/lavon.html

Israelis apparently ocnsider murdering their "allies" and blaming Muslims to be "idealism" and "self-sacrifice."

[inventagod]

The White House Council on Environmental Quality
... "convinced the EPA to add reassuring statements and delete cautionary ones" following 9/11. Why?

[inventagod]

World Trade Center building 7 was demolished on 9/11. Why?

[prinzowhales]

I know there are people in the world dishonest enough to accept lars008's government sponsored disinformation studies. Here's a link to a little article:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=6979

Its just another example of Official Lies... Through their asset at the NEW YORK TIMES, the science editor, who incidentally won the Pulitzer for coverage of Hiroshima-Nagasaki, claimed that stories of radiation sickness were 'just Japanese propaganda.' Let's recall that another Pulitzer was won by the NEW YORK TIMES's Moscow correspondent, Walter Duranty, denied the mass starvation of Ukranians under Stalin...millions died...he still has his Pulitzer...If there is such a thing as "holocaust denial" it is this denial of the Ukranian Holocaust. And, let us not forget Judith Miller, the arrogant little liaress who, with Chalabi...the embezzler, the "hero in error"...lied, lied, lied and lied in the pages of the NEW YORK TIMES to help bolster the case for war. I have not bought a newspaper in years and I would never buy the NYT. Help rid the world of our 'nation's paper of record'...record lies and disinformation.

Would the Washington Regime lie about 9-11?-- They already have! With regard to WTC-7 they've lied several times and are still trying to get their stories straight. Infowars.com has an excellent set of resources to investigate 9-11 for yourselves. Alex Jones on his radio show was asking people to call Washington and beg them not to attack weeks before 9-11.

[inventagod]

President Bu$h stonewalled 444 days before investigating 9/11. Why?

[emhawks]

REOPEN THE 9/11 INVESTIGATION!!!!!!